Canadian politics thread

[whitev70r]

Originally Posted by Great68

Was that Camas Gardens (Humboldt St)? (I actually worked on that building when it was constructed)

There are different levels to the supportive housing:
Emergency (Shelters), Transitional, Low Barrier, Subsidized/Supportive etc

Camas is a higher barrier, subsidized supportive.
But I sure as hell wouldn't want to live anywhere near the low barrier/transitional buildings. It's an absolute cesspool all around Our Place on Pandora:

And 844 Johnson always has a congregation of people skidding it up around the outside.

This 100% ... different levels of supportive housing. The communal ones with 6-8 individuals in a house in a residential neighbourhood that no one would know it's community supportive housing ... absolutely no problems.

The multi-level, low barrier, modular type ... I don't know how you can deny that there are increased crime, needles, drugs, etc.

[spoon.ek9]

As mentioned above, our choices right now are to work with an openly evil regime or a sneaky evil regime. Do I like it? No, not really but we're stuck between a rock and a hard place right now so we have to do something. If it brings jobs to Canada (EV manufacturing, for example) then I might be able to stomach it for now. If it's truly an economic win-win situation then I think it's the logical thing to do.


Re: Decriminalization

We discussed this before and I think it's still true, they were doomed to fail as soon as they let the safe supply simply flow with zero agreement from the end user to adhere to some rehabilitation plan.

It's like giving a child a giant bag of chocolate chips and telling them you'll trust they do the right thing and make cookies. When hydromorphone starts showing up in high schools, you immediately know there's a problem with the system. This should have shut the program down immediately but the gov't was skeptical the supply was coming from safe supply...

The real victims here are the ones who are actually trying to change their lives and come back to society. No longer having safe supply is a huge inconvenience to them because it means we're likely switching back to Daily Witnessed Ingestion for absolutely everything. Imagine trying to hold down a job but you have to schedule your shift (or leave multiple times per day) to go get your meds. As usual, the shitty people ruin it for everyone.

I think there's a way to implement this but the was our province did it was clearly not it.

[noclue]

Basically we’ve been following a policy of appeasement for the past 30+ years. Appeasement never worked in any form, from german foreign policy to children misbehavior. We need to swing the pendulum the other way and crack down on it. Government slowly working on it with involuntary care for start and introducing new bills to allow tougher sentencing for repeat offenders.

As for shelters, go live beside these and see how quickly you’ll change your tune:
https://globalnews.ca/news/10624702/...lter-concerns/

https://vancouversun.com/news/after-...rtive-housing#

You think the nonprofit executives running these will allow shelters to open in their neighborhoods?

[GS8]

I've read that detoxing from toxic drugs can be a tortorous death sentence too, depending on how deep the individual is into their addiction.

It's really a triple edged sword that's manifested here.

There's people who don't care about addicts and there's people who pretend to care.

And the worst offenders are the ones who profit off pretending to care!

[Traum]

Originally Posted by pastarocket

Your thoughts on this announcement from Carney's visit to China?

https://vancouver.citynews.ca/2026/0...-carney-visit/

British Columbia’s Forests Ministry has entered into a memorandum of understanding with the Chinese government to boost research, development and promotion of modern wood construction in creating green buildings in China.

The five-year agreement, which is not legally binding, also involves the federal Department of Natural Resources and is among the first reached with Beijing after the arrival of Prime Minister Mark Carney in China this week.

I'm not sure how much of an expert China is when it comes to modern wood construction techniques.

It must have been a good 20+ years ago. One year when I went to Hong Kong for vacation, my uncle took me to this nunnery (志蓮淨苑). According to my uncle, the main temple was built using an all-natural Tang Dynasty style wood construction technique. But the lead builders / architects weren't Chinese because the building technique had already long been lost in China. Instead, the lead builders were Japanese bcos Japanese culture preserved a lot of the old Tang Dynasty elements to it.

Spoiler!

Additionally, I am under the impression that Canada is fairly advanced in our modern wood construction techniques. For example, the UBC Foresty department is supposed to be a global leader in this area.

So what I'm concerned with is -- with the MOU, is it simply gonna turn into a one-way technology transfer that primarily benefits China? We may or may not get some short term economic benefits, but if China ends up learning all our modern wood construction techniques, are they gonna turn around to undercut us in this line of business?

That would be what I am very concerned about.

[Infiniti]

Originally Posted by Traum

Additionally, I am under the impression that Canada is fairly advanced in our modern wood construction techniques. For example, the UBC Foresty department is supposed to be a global leader in this area.

So what I'm concerned with is -- with the MOU, is it simply gonna turn into a one-way technology transfer that primarily benefits China? We may or may not get some short term economic benefits, but if China ends up learning all our modern wood construction techniques, are they gonna turn around to undercut us in this line of business?

That would be what I am very concerned about.

China will just end up stealing the tech via industrial espionage anyways (if they haven't already done so) so i think you're overstating the risks of this MOU.

[bcrdukes]

Originally Posted by Infiniti

China will just end up stealing the tech via industrial espionage anyways (if they haven't already done so)

Or just buy the patents when a company bails (hello Nortel.)

[donk.]

Originally Posted by spoon.ek9

We discussed this before and I think it's still true, they were doomed to fail as soon as they let the safe supply simply flow with zero agreement from the end user to adhere to some rehabilitation plan.

Thats the equivalent of offering free track day entries, with an agreement that i will go to rehab to stop

[EvoFire]

Engineered timber is a huge deal here. A lot of the major players have eggs in the beam/OSB paneling business and especially cause the building code allows medium rise wood structures now.

I'm going to guess China wants the engineered wood beams, and they would be able to do it significantly cheaper than we can. It's a high tech high manual input industry that actually fits China's industrial base very well.