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Nlkko 12-04-2018 12:15 PM

Got ticketed by bylaws once for parking too close to the alleyway exit. I recall it is a more expensive ticket than your regular parking meter tickets.

teggy604 12-04-2018 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Nlkko (Post 8931047)
No way to update that. The coin meter isn't connected to any network. It's also cost prohibited.

The meter isn't connected to network but the number of that meter is. I am sure a software engineer can find a solution if they wanted to. But obviously city will never do that because they want to collect as much money as possible. If triple dipping is a thing, they be all over it.

BaoTurbo 12-04-2018 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by iwantaskyline (Post 8930625)
Nobody is patrolling...it's a neighbor reporting it.

no they actually do. everyone is assigned an area to patrol in the city.

I've asked a bylaw officer trying to ticket our dealership cars on main street

Nlkko 12-04-2018 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by teggy604 (Post 8931214)
The meter isn't connected to network but the number of that meter is. I am sure a software engineer can find a solution if they wanted to. But obviously city will never do that because they want to collect as much money as possible. If triple dipping is a thing, they be all over it.

No guy, it is not possible without a network connection. One is an offline system , one is connected.

PeanutButter 12-04-2018 08:26 PM

If the bylaw officer is called to a scene, he's not going to give you guys slack. He's going to do his job. Otherwise his job is in jeopardy or he's in jeopardy of looking like an officer that doesn't know the bylaws.

twitchyzero 12-04-2018 09:43 PM

i thought anyone on your block can park there for as long as they want...the space in front doesn't belong to your house per say

and that the 3-4 hours only applies to non-residents?

AzNightmare 12-05-2018 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by teggy604 (Post 8930994)
That's what I thought. So does the app tell you how much time left on the meter if you punch in the meter number? If not I think they should be more transparent with that info. If I park at the meter and there is 10 mins left, at least that will give 10 mins to someone else parking there. I rather give that 10 mins to someone than that 10 mins to the city.

No. It's not an open database for you.
In the app, you create a profile (license plate and enter in your CC number)
Then you just enter the meter number and enter in the amount of minutes you want to park there, and pay.

The app will keep a countdown timer for you, and give you text msg notifications when your time is running low/out.

I guess in theory, the city can triple, quadruple, quintuple, dip if cars keep overpaying via mobile app and leaving before time's up.

underscore 12-05-2018 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PeanutButter (Post 8931231)
If the bylaw officer is called to a scene, he's not going to give you guys slack. He's going to do his job. Otherwise his job is in jeopardy or he's in jeopardy of looking like an officer that doesn't know the bylaws.

Depends on what it is, every time one of my neighbours has called bylaw over something fairly minor (bumper overhanging the street, didn't like the look of the tarped up Gambler 500 car, etc) they asked me to correct it and that was that.

Scotsman 12-05-2018 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8931243)
i thought anyone on your block can park there for as long as they want...the space in front doesn't belong to your house per say

and that the 3-4 hours only applies to non-residents?

As per the City of Vancouver's website when there is no signage:
Section 17.6 (f): Between 8:00am and 6:00pm every day, do not park your vehicle for more than 3 hours in front of residential or commercial properties that you do not own or work at.

The 3-hour bylaw restricts all-day commuter parking to allow daytime access for residents to their homes and for business owners and employees to their workplaces.
https://vancouver.ca/streets-transpo...and-lanes.aspx

winson604 12-05-2018 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Scotsman (Post 8931308)
As per the City of Vancouver's website when there is no signage:
Section 17.6 (f): Between 8:00am and 6:00pm every day, do not park your vehicle for more than 3 hours in front of residential or commercial properties that you do not own or work at.

The 3-hour bylaw restricts all-day commuter parking to allow daytime access for residents to their homes and for business owners and employees to their workplaces.
https://vancouver.ca/streets-transpo...and-lanes.aspx

Tip/loophole. Don't park directly in front of someones house, park 50 in front of one and 50 in front of another. It would mean both houses need to call in to report it lol good luck.

Scotsman 12-05-2018 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by winson604 (Post 8931312)
Tip/loophole. Don't park directly in front of someones house, park 50 in front of one and 50 in front of another. It would mean both houses need to call in to report it lol good luck.

LOL or you can get 2 tickets!

winson604 12-06-2018 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Scotsman (Post 8931329)
LOL or you can get 2 tickets!

lol that isn't how it works

FOREVER 12-06-2018 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Scotsman (Post 8931308)
As per the City of Vancouver's website when there is no signage:
Section 17.6 (f): Between 8:00am and 6:00pm every day, do not park your vehicle for more than 3 hours in front of residential or commercial properties that you do not own or work at.

The 3-hour bylaw restricts all-day commuter parking to allow daytime access for residents to their homes and for business owners and employees to their workplaces.
https://vancouver.ca/streets-transpo...and-lanes.aspx

Weird... Called in once to report a car that hasn't moved for weeks. Doors unlocked, laptop in the front passenger seat. Neighbor even opened the door to check it out :lawl:

The 311 CSR told me that the car was legally parked. :pokerface: But whoever the owner of the car was, drove it away a week after......

But I'm going to refer to Section 17.6 (f) now from now on bwahhaha

winson604 12-06-2018 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by FOREVER (Post 8931469)
Weird... Called in once to report a car that hasn't moved for weeks. Doors unlocked, laptop in the front passenger seat. Neighbor even opened the door to check it out :lawl:

The 311 CSR told me that the car was legally parked. :pokerface: But whoever the owner of the car was, drove it away a week after......

But I'm going to refer to Section 17.6 (f) now from now on bwahhaha

Just ask to be transferred to parking enforcement.

Gh0stRider 12-08-2018 05:06 PM

I've called RCMP for a parking issue, since bylaws was closed. 2 officers showed up within 20 mins and towed the car blocking the driveway :awwyeah:

TjAlmeida 12-08-2018 06:33 PM

Got a ticket this past week for being parked facing the wrong direction in East Vancouver, I was inside viewing my Parents new house. While I agree I broke the law, there has to be some kind of leeway, maybe over night or for more then X amount of hours. We were in and out in about an hour. Strange enough, I park in Port Coquitlam facing the wrong direction 50% of the time and have a bylaw officer down the street, yet I have never received a ticket.

MarkyMark 12-08-2018 07:29 PM

Why not turn around and park facing the correct way? I can see if you're picking someone up and leaving right away, but an hour? Seems kinda ghetto.

bluejays 12-08-2018 08:43 PM

At the end of the day these guys are just doing their jobs. If I park illegally I fully understand that I have a chance of receiving a ticket. Most officers I've dealt with are more than reasonable and I've had a couple of tickets cancelled on the spot just by apologizing - if you come out screaming at them they definitely won't help you out; it's completely their discretion.

68style 12-08-2018 08:44 PM

Yah that’s the problem they don’t know how long you were parked that way... could have been a day for all they knew right? They’re not monitoring 24/7. That said some streets in East van I get why you would be very tempted to, only 1 car through at a time and middle of a block you got a long ways to go to turn around at an intersection or roundabout to get faced the right way.

I feel like it should only be an infraction on 2 lane wide streets cuz then you straight up drove on the wrong side of the road to get over there to park.

twitchyzero 12-08-2018 11:07 PM

the fact that there are even rules being enforced regarding direction of travel on residential side streets sans markings on the road, is idiotic

in practice when both curbs are lined with parked cars, it really becomes ony wide enough for one vehicle doing 30-40 kph

and how about some leeway not regarding how long you were parked there but just for educating/warning the public? like no one actually gets ticketed for idling too long, but will be educated on it. why couldn't parking the wrong way be the same?

surely bylaw officers have other infractions they should be looking at that actually affects safety/access rather than increasing revenue

sorry i know it's starting to sound like the VI thread...break the law, pay the price, but i think they could go about it a bit more reasonable

Traum 12-08-2018 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8931750)
sorry i know it's starting to sound like the VI thread...break the law, pay the price, but i think they could go about it a bit more reasonable

The biggest difference is, bylaw tickets account for a significant portion of municipal revenue. This is literally one of their sacred cash cows. It is hardly surprising how they are putting a good amount of resources (human or otherwise) into it.

twitchyzero 12-08-2018 11:46 PM

that same block where i got the ticket in the initial post there's also a fire hydrant, and the nearest no stopping sign preventing you from parking too close to it was less than 5m away, hmm make up your mind?

and i'm not even that salty on tickets, it's when you get towed and fully knowing you weren't blocking traffic nor was it a real safety concern that they had to remove your vehicle

was walking around tinseltown/stadium yesterday night, tickets on so many windshields, a dozen of tow trucks within a few blocks fishing it in...nice catch <3

AzNightmare 12-09-2018 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TjAlmeida (Post 8931717)
Got a ticket this past week for being parked facing the wrong direction in East Vancouver, I was inside viewing my Parents new house. While I agree I broke the law, there has to be some kind of leeway, maybe over night or for more then X amount of hours. We were in and out in about an hour. Strange enough, I park in Port Coquitlam facing the wrong direction 50% of the time and have a bylaw officer down the street, yet I have never received a ticket.

Why don't you just cross the street instead?

twitchyzero 12-09-2018 10:09 AM

probably doesn't wanna park in front of neighbour's house if it's over 3 hours?

winson604 12-09-2018 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8931775)
probably doesn't wanna park in front of neighbour's house if it's over 3 hours?

Clearly he had no intent of even staying that long so that wasn't it. Let's face it, most people who park the other direction (let's not argue if it's right or wrong) is almost always pure laziness and or I don't give a fuck I'll park how I want because I fail to see a very logical reason anyone would be parking that way for an extended amount of time. For a few mins sure there are some pretty understandable reasons i.e. picking up an elderly, handicap person or perhaps loading a kid into the car seat. Heck even dropping off groceries and a million other things but an hour or even overnight?


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