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fliptuner 07-27-2019 01:10 PM

Double layer subfloor
 
Redoing the first floor, subfloor, prior to vinyl plank installation.

Existing is 2x10 joists, 12' span, over a 3' crawlspace, ⅝ plywood glued and nailed on top.

I've added blocking at 3 and 9' and a support structure at 6'. I'm not happy with the wear and small variances in height, at the joints of the existing subfloor, so I'm gluing and screwing a second ⅝ layer of ply, overlapping the original joints.

Would you suggest I add screws to the field between the joists as well or is this enough overkill? Lol

underscore 07-27-2019 01:48 PM

I'd walk around everywhere and see if there's any noise, but for the lost cost of screws and a bit of time now is when it's easiest to go full overkill with the screws.

fliptuner 07-27-2019 03:40 PM

Thx. Yeah. Dumb question, really. Rented the extended drill and got 3000 screws. Hopefully that's enough :lol

Hondaracer 07-27-2019 07:57 PM

Snap lines on the joists as guides, if you slightly miss the hoist it could cause squeaks in the future. Although with another layer of 5/8 on top you’d probably never hear them.

If you hve some minor dips afterward I’d also recommend doing some self leveler. the Mapei Novaplan 2 plus is pretty user friendly even for a beginner and it works very well.

Floors are like painting cars, or anything really, if you have any doubts about a low or high point it’s best to address it in the sub floor than try to do somthing after the fact when laying the floor

fliptuner 07-27-2019 08:08 PM

Thanks. She's pretty flat now, after beefing up the joists. I just finished, gluing and screwing the shit out of it and yes, I marked the joists when I dry fitted the second layer. Massive difference now, actually feels solid. Burned off like 10 big tubes of PL hahahaha

Hondaracer 07-27-2019 08:43 PM

PL will make anything solid lol, I have a love/hate relationship with it lol

fliptuner 07-27-2019 08:54 PM

https://i.imgur.com/9O0rJWcr.jpg

Hondaracer 07-31-2019 12:14 PM

Looks great, your room looks a little straighter than when I did mine lol

blkgsr 08-06-2019 12:23 PM

finish your drywall touch ups, prime, prime check, and first coat of wall paint before putting the flooring down.

fliptuner 08-07-2019 12:58 AM

More than a few drywall touch-ups, since I wanted to flatten out the ceiling. Added some potlights and a box for a ceiling fan, 'conduit' for AV, patched a bunch of unused coax/phone/security receptacles, and cleaned up some air returns. After all the dusty work was done, installed floor during the days and painted at night (strata).

Don't mind the mess, we're moved in and I'm hanging kitchen cabinets and down a powder room. Oh and the mantle is temporary lol

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blkgsr 08-07-2019 07:49 AM

my point was just to recommend getting all the drywall work and paint (prime and a good first coat) prior to flooring.

you see it all the time on the TV reno shows where they install flooring then paint because of schedule or what ever reason. from my experience you get a much better finish getting a good coat of colour on the wall before any finishing. way less cutting and much better paint finish quality.

underscore 08-07-2019 09:18 AM

Good call on the oversized conduits, I've been pissed off trying to fish wires through tiny tubing enough times that I put a 3" duct to above the fireplace lol.

Before you finish everything in are you happy with the fireplace and how it works? The reason I ask is they're apparently only supposed to last ~5 years and parts support for older ones sucks. We ended up having to scrap the original one and buy a whole new one which wasn't ideal.

fliptuner 08-07-2019 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blkgsr (Post 8955989)
my point was just to recommend getting all the drywall work and paint (prime and a good first coat) prior to flooring.

you see it all the time on the TV reno shows where they install flooring then paint because of schedule or what ever reason. from my experience you get a much better finish getting a good coat of colour on the wall before any finishing. way less cutting and much better paint finish quality.

Flooring install was pretty clean, since it's vinyl. Either snap or make custom cuts in the garage. The ceilings were already primed/painted and wall repairs primed, before the floor install. No extra cutting necessary, bottom gets covered by the baseboards.

Yeah, I had the fireplace gone over, after we took possession. The tile surround and hearth will pretty much have to come out if this guy needs replacement.

GLOW 08-07-2019 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8955998)
3" duct to above the fireplace lol.

3"!! damn you must have been angry :lol

Hondaracer 08-07-2019 08:04 PM

Finally some decently sized AV conduit

Most ducking conduit you can’t even fish single HDMI up that have that in-line Ethernet bubble thing

underscore 08-07-2019 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GLOW (Post 8956030)
3"!! damn you must have been angry :lol

Just a couple weeks ago I had to pull one shielded network cable through a conduit at work and because it was such a wimpy size I had to pull all the other cables back out, run the new one, pull all the original stuff back through and then reterminate it all. A huge waste of time all because some dingleberry sized it for unterminated cables only.

Tbh I wasn't planning on anything that big originally but everything I was finding was puny and would be annoying to pull even a single HDMI cable through. Then I stumbled across some 3" flex ducting and said fuck it. I was able to secure it nicely to a 2 gang box I hacked the bottom out of and route it down to the storage room below. The only problem I had is because there's so much space when I accidentally let go of the end of an HDMI cable the weight of the cable yoinked the whole thing back down into the basement :lol

jing 08-08-2019 08:10 AM

^ Cable lube does wonders for those kinds of situations. Would highly recommend the spray foam type vs the clear or yellow stuff. Costs a bit more but being able to spray directly into the pipe makes things a lot cleaner to work with.

underscore 08-08-2019 10:44 AM

It wasn't getting stuck, I couldn't even get it started. The plug physically couldn't fit in there with the other cables in place. Even with nothing else in there it got jammed up in the one corner on the first try. I'm going to grab some for the next time I run something though.

fliptuner 08-24-2019 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8955087)
PL will make anything solid lol, I have a love/hate relationship with it lol

Fucker, jinxed me. Last piece, in the last room...


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fliptuner 08-25-2019 12:02 PM

https://i.imgur.com/KIFStKor.jpg

Surprisingly, got quite a bit off.

Now it just looks like a normal cum stain.

Phew :thumbs::thumbs:


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