being patriotic isn't always a good thing. we should be critical of our country when it matters, and proud of our country when it matters. the america that you are describing is the expectation of blind patriotism, and that is related to nationalism. that's not good at all.

Looks like mother Russia has offered Cherry a job to "talk whatever he thinks".
Maybe they understand that it's his provocation, not mediocrity, that draws the viewers.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...or/2572450001/

Ever heard of immigration? You might want to try it if you don't like living here. Maybe try Alabama.

Are you smoking glue dude? so you are supporting/defending some old out of touch asshat who is clearly is a racist and a biggot? He used his platform to spout his bullshit and you support it? I love this country more anything. If you don't love this country and like to talk shit, maybe you should move to the US where there are allot of so called "patriots". Jesus.......

So often the same people that call themselves Canadian patriots criticize the Canadian government for welcoming refugees, and financial aid to war torn countries, when it's one of the most relevant and longstanding principles of the countries positive reputation across the world.

I said this in the last thread, and I'll say it again.

He's a damn fool for his comment, why did he have to dog whistle?

This isn't necessarily an immigrant issue, it's a generational issue.

Whether you agree or not, with every year that passes WW2 becomes less relevant to the younger generations.

Walking around Vancouver, and in business, I very rarely see people within my age demographic (mid 30's) or younger, rocking poppies, whether you're Caucasian or not.

I would have no problem with him stating that the younger generation needs to remember the veterans, and support their sacrifice. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that statement.

His comment was a dog whistle, and one that quite frankly I grow tired of from these so-called "true Canadians".

It opens up an interesting conversation that's always bothered me to be honest.

My Mother is Irish, my father is Nigerian.

Nigeria was a British Colony in the 1930's/40's. My grandfather was sent to Burma in WW2 to fight the Japanese, as many of the African and Indian soldiers from British Colonies were sent to. My grandfather was shot there, and ended up dying years later back in Nigeria due to complications of the lead bullet still lodged within his body.

I remember as a kid in elementary school when in class we were to discuss if we had family members within the war. I remember referencing that story and having white children tell me "You're black though, black people weren't in the war". Looking back, that always bothered me. I suppose I can't hold grudge to some of those kids, because how would they know?

Very rarely in media do we ever show the sacrifices of non-Europeans who fought and died in WW1/WW2, so how would those kids know?

I've always felt this strange feeling in Canada that some like to look at Remembrance Day as a "whites only" holiday, where "immigrants", and people from outside of Europe don't belong in celebrating or taking credit for the war's success.

Don Cherry's stupid comments validate that feeling I've always had from older Canadians such as himself.

Why don't they show the actual video?

The Royal Canadian Legion
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Mr. Cherry’s personal opinion was hurtful, divisive and in no way condoned by the Legion. We do remain appreciative of his passionate support for Veterans.
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this is the kind of vid that someones conservative grandma posts on facebook, not the kind of stuff that i'd expect an RS member to link here and be taken as a serious example for their argument.

I, too, grew up watching Rock em Sock em videos, and looked forward to Coach's Corner when I was at my height of NHL fandom, probably about when I was 12.

However, I am no longer 12. Since then, my view on how things work in the world has changed, and I have a better perspective of what's acceptable and what's not. If you were an actual patriotic Canadian, you'd be up in arms against Cherry as much as anyone else here. This kind of bigotry is NOT acceptable in Canada now. It never was, it's just that the people being targeted had no voice until now.

Now that they have a voice, would you not listen? Try to think by other peoples' perspectives once in a while. Imagine how much it must suck seeing people support this idiot who has been fighting against you for decades, only because you were born somewhere other than where you currently reside.

Cherry supporters act like they're defending "passion" and "patriotism" but really they're defending racism and bigotry. It's pretty disappointing.

Hey Patriot Act, if you don't like this country you are welcome to leave it. If you don't like the culture of inclusion and welcoming of newcomers there are other countries who would gladly take you. Canada's reputation around the world is that of people who come together to help others, who work as peacekeepers, and who look for the best of others. If those things don't appeal to you that's ok but I don't think you're gonna like living here.

The preponderance of evidence tracing back 30+ years indicate that the opinion of whether Don Cherry is a racist is such that it's actually fact in the same way that the opinion of climate change is just an "opinion" except that it's backed by a sizeable amount of evidence to support it. Don Cherry being a racist ain't new(s).

Am I a pussy like a Swede or a Finn? Sissy Sedin twin or more like Esa "Dives like Greg Louganis" Tikkanen? Maybe that bum Petr Klima or former Flames Hakan Loob? Those guys wore fucking VISORS so clearly they were a bunch of pussies compared to those hard working farm boys like Cam Neely (traded for another farm boy Barry Pedersen) whom we call real hockey players! Too bad Cam's career was ended by that cowardly Swede Ulf Samuelsson who wore a visor. If Ulf were a real hockey player he would have gone for the head like Scott Stevens did with Eric Lindros (also REAL hockey players unlike that pussy Thomas Gradin!)

It's the fact that I've been following Don Cherry since he started Coach's Corner in 1982 with Dave Hodge (who called Don out for being an asshole on Twitter) that I know he's an unrepentant racist but whether one follows HNIC or not has no measure on if Don's an icon or not. Don's record is in public view and it speaks for itself.

This is behind a paywall but Sean McIndoe (that's some fucking authentic white name right?) says it well (https://theathletic.com/1369329/2019...rd-to-watch/):

If you're a real patriot you're the kind of Canadian that Sean describes, not the kind that Don believes in. Don is a terrible Canadian and has been for 40 years, we just finally decided that terrible Canadians like him don't deserve a platform on one of our nation's most precious shows.

You think Americas bastardized version of patriotism is a good thing? Bruh...

Scott Stevens didn’t pick heads (like Matt Cooke) or elevate into the head (like Raffi Torres), he was a big, strong dude who hit centre mass at high speeds. Lindros had a habit of skating with his head down, which was death when playing against Stevens.

He’s retired now, but a more contemporary equivalent was Niklas Kronwall. You always wanted to make sure you were aware of where he was on the ice because he’d level you if you put yourself in a vulnerable position.

Neither Stevens or Kronwall were dirty players like Samuelsson or Cooke.

Well, I guess we can wrap this thread up. Don Cherry showed up on Tucker Carlson's show to defend himself.

Full video: http://video.foxnews.com/v/6103177588001/

https://theprovince.com/sports/hocke...-of-his-shtick

It's telling that the nearly all of the sports writers who know Don Cherry well all admit that he's a bigot/racist and that he's been doing it for years and should have been fired ages ago except he was a money machine for CBC and, just like you can't fire Matt Lauer for being a rapey pig or you can't turn in Harvey Weinstein for being a rapey pig or Bill Cosby for well you know (FFS, can we stop sticking our dicks in places where they ain't welcome!?) you can't fire a guy for being a racist if he's popular.

Doing an interview on Fox News with Tucker Carlson is the modern day equivalent to attending a KKK rally

Thank you Rogers for the being the moral compass of social justice and awareness of those who are so wrongly targeted.

You are now free to return back to the hive of your fellow cartels to continue gouging millions of Canadians with your overage charges, vague contract terminology with fine print hat looks like toner bleed, inept imbeciles who cannot answer inquiries (over the phone, ironically) and those hidden fees that pop up whenever they feel like it because you said so.

I mean Canada has to lead at something right? So why not lead in some of the highest cell phone bills in the world? As complaints spike no less.

Hmm, maybe I should get a job with the CCTS? Seems like it could be very full time at this rate of momentum.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/cct...ints-1.4921033

So yes, thanks Rogers. You're winner!

You think they did this because they have a morel compass? They did it because of the money. Ever been to a Canucks game?

I think we can all agree Rogers has no moral compass and no moral high ground.

They’re, at the very least, complicit in this having retained him since taking over in 2013 despite numerous controversial statements prior to that (which eventually led CBC to put a 7-second delay on him) and airing that segment 3 times that night (once live, twice recorded) before condemning him only after the CBSC contacted them regarding the flood of complaints.

I would personally say they condoned his behaviour for their own monetary benefit until it became financially disadvantageous to continue.

Why can't we all be grateful for what we have in Canada and not worry too much about poppies...

Don Cherry fired!!!
 

It would be a long shot for this former Canuck to replace Cherry.

What about Kevin Bieksa? Call the first intermission segment “Juice’s Corner”.

:lawl:

Bieksa is knowledgeable about ice hockey given his NHL career. Has charisma and a good sense of humour. He would be my choice.

I think Brian Burke is the front runner to replace Cherry.

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Jack Layton. RIP. He was a true patriot, that was thinking of his country, above family, even on his death bed. He united the people and brought the country to unity, to be stronger.

Wasn't it obvious to you that GS8's comment was dripping with sarcasm?