coronavirus discussion

[Hondaracer]

#FilmYourHospital is trending on twitter and the results are fairly interesting..

People going to “hot beds” in California And New York and the hospitals are completely deserted, no one in ER no one in waiting rooms etc.

Many replies to these threads are people saying they have had surgery in the last week as hospitals around the country and they’ve never seen them so quiet etc.

So much shit out there..really hard to know what to take in. Even people locally who say they “have the virus” are people you would 100% assume if anyone was going to have it it would be them. Ie. that Lawyer Kyla whatever who went up against the cops with the roadside weed testing, it’s like yea, of course you’ve got it..

[pastarocket]

-latest announcement from Trudeau:

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/03...ive-equipment/

[Manic!]

Originally Posted by mikemhg

This, 100%.

I have no doubt SNSC triggered the bankruptcy clause to abrogate any financial responsibility in terms of severance, and obligations.

There is no doubt at all their same locations will be "re-branded" and picked up by a new gym outfit (even by same investors and ownership).

This is capitalism for you.

Good luck trying to do that yourself though, huh?

We had a family-owned chain on the Island called VI fitness. I was working out one night and they told everyone to leave. That was the last day they where open. People thought they would re brand and open but they never did.

https://www.timescolonist.com/news/l...tcy-1.23289472

[Hondaracer]

Dr.Bonnie: people come and go from ICU, the same people who were in ICU yesterday aren’t the same as today and we are ventilating people before they need it to help them recover

Lol fuck the amount of ambiguity in all of this is insane. If you thought 9/11 had conspiracy theories wait till this shit is over

[westopher]

Whats the ambiguity in that?
Bonnie Henry has been very direct in her statements about early access to ventilators for critically ill patients is the strongest defence they have found, which is resulting in lower than average death rates for the illness here in Canada.
I agree with you about the tinfoil hats coming out a million fold though.

[!LittleDragon]

Originally Posted by mikemhg

This, 100%.

I have no doubt SNSC triggered the bankruptcy clause to abrogate any financial responsibility in terms of severance, and obligations.

There is no doubt at all their same locations will be "re-branded" and picked up by a new gym outfit (even by same investors and ownership).

This is capitalism for you.

Good luck trying to do that yourself though, huh?

It's a tough choice... Do you file bankruptcy, preserve capital so that you can reopen later on and bring those jobs back eventually? Or do you pay out severance to everyone and have nothing left to open up again. Those jobs will be gone forever.

[underscore]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

People going to “hot beds” in California And New York and the hospitals are completely deserted, no one in ER no one in waiting rooms etc.

Many replies to these threads are people saying they have had surgery in the last week as hospitals around the country and they’ve never seen them so quiet etc.

Maybe if we think really hard, we can figure out why the publicly accessible parts of the hospitals don't have a bunch of people sitting around.

[CivicBlues]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

So much shit out there..really hard to know what to take in. Even people locally who say they “have the virus” are people you would 100% assume if anyone was going to have it it would be them. Ie. that Lawyer Kyla whatever who went up against the cops with the roadside weed testing, it’s like yea, of course you’ve got it..

What in blazes are you talking about?

[yray]

Originally Posted by westopher

Whats the ambiguity in that?
Bonnie Henry has been very direct in her statements about early access to ventilators for critically ill patients is the strongest defence they have found, which is resulting in lower than average death rates for the illness here in Canada.
I agree with you about the tinfoil hats coming out a million fold though.

Atleast they are able to move out of the ICU. My dad couldn't leave the ICU because there was not enough regular ward beds, he was the only patient walking in the ICU.

[quasi]

Originally Posted by quasi

I wonder if Fraser Health will delay turning the new ward at RCH into a mental health Unit?

You have a brand new 4 Floor Hospital with nobody in it set to be turned over in the next 30 days, it would make a good spot for turning into a medical wing to treat virus patients and you could keep them separated from the general Hospital.

Looks like this is happening;

https://www.straight.com/covid-19-pa...ffsite-centres


In addition, Dix said that health authorities are also preparing off-site treatment centres where extra beds will be available for less ill patients. This extra capacity will provide more space for patients in acute care hospitals.

Among the sites, Dix said there will be 271 beds set up at the Vancouver Trade and Convention Centre and 80 beds at the new tower at Royal Columbian Hospital.

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by Infiniti

Where's that heavy-handed authoritarian justice system when you need it!?

If those were pictures of Xi instead of masks, that guy would have disappeared before he left the factory.

[spoon.ek9]

Okay, maybe I can address some of the concerns on this page. The name of the game is staying ahead of things here. The whole goal of treatment is to get people home ASAP and only have people stay who actually need to stay. This is true of any time but especially true during a pandemic. Keep in mind, the number of isolation rooms, ventilators, etc is very small. Also, try not to misinterpret my words to say that we are sending people home left and right. The circumstances are not the same for everyone.

I can't speak to what's going on in US hospitals but if you need reasons as to why it looks less busy than usual:

1. Visitor access is restricted now. Patients only unless you're a child.
2. All elective surgeries cancelled
3. Access points to the hospitals have been reduced, signs put up, and at times there will be security plus a nurse to assess patients before coming into the hospital
4. A lot of the riff-raff types are no longer clogging up our emergency departments. This means the hypochondriacs, people looking for attention, less important things, etc. I've literally seen a chief complaint of PAPER CUT in emerg. That's ridiculous.
5. A lot of processes/interactions have been changed so that they are either achieved by online (physical rehab for example) or by delivery services.
6. Let's not forget that people are scared to even go to the hospital at all right now unless they absolutely need to.

We are actively looking for ways to reduce foot traffic in the hospitals. This is by design. This is how we stay ahead. There's a ton of things that happen at the hospitals that they don't tell you about. Main reason right now is that there's way more valid things to worry about than conspiracy theories. If anything, people should be friggin' thankful that their hospitals (no matter where that might be) aren't swamped. Logical, right?

[Teriyaki]

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp

If those were pictures of Xi instead of masks, that guy would have disappeared before he left the factory.

Disappeared before the video even ends. Actually, video would never exist.

Thanks spoon.ek9 for clarifying. Similar to some things I've heard from nursing friends as well. Not everything is a conspiracy theory.

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by ilovebacon

I took the knowledge from a fellow RS member of how he wore an N95 and then another mask on top. I did that hoping to prolong the usage of the N95 mask by a day or two.

It's really hard to breathe with this on...
Can't imagine myself going for a jog with it on.

Just bought these and found out about the bad reviews..... hope it isn't as bad as it is.
https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B08...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I'll try to say this without getting mad or being mean, but I fucking hope that guy was joking, or he stops doing that. There's a huge shortage of N95, and this joker is wasting them by using two at a time?

He should at the VERY least donate half his N95s if he's going to do that, or donate them all and switch to surgical masks, since there's obviously an abundance for this person.

[ilovebacon]

I had an idea of having an N95 under the blue surgical mask.

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally Posted by ilovebacon

I had an idea of having an N95 under the blue surgical mask.

Maybe you'd consider just wearing the surgical masks, and giving the N95 to a hospital? Or even give them to spoon.ek9 as a personal donation, I bet he could make good use of them

[Jmac]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

#FilmYourHospital is trending on twitter and the results are fairly interesting..

People going to “hot beds” in California And New York and the hospitals are completely deserted, no one in ER no one in waiting rooms etc.

Many replies to these threads are people saying they have had surgery in the last week as hospitals around the country and they’ve never seen them so quiet etc.

So much shit out there..really hard to know what to take in. Even people locally who say they “have the virus” are people you would 100% assume if anyone was going to have it it would be them. Ie. that Lawyer Kyla whatever who went up against the cops with the roadside weed testing, it’s like yea, of course you’ve got it..

And?

If it’s anything like my hospital, it’s a ghost town because most of the foot traffic is from visitors, elective procedures, non-essential procedures, outpatient services/procedures, etc. most of which have been postponed/cancelled. All non-essential staff has been sent home. People are being encouraged not to come to the hospital unless absolutely necessary. Staff are encouraged to minimize inter-departmental travel.

It’s serious business, not a conspiracy.

I, and many others, have been working ridiculously long hours trying to get ahead of this thing.

[SSM_DC5]

Originally Posted by spoon.ek9

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4. A lot of the riff-raff types are no longer clogging up our emergency departments. This means the hypochondriacs, people looking for attention, less important things, etc. I've literally seen a chief complaint of PAPER CUT in emerg. That's ridiculous.
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But was it card stock?? it's THICK!

[twitchyzero]

lunchtime jog, saw residential construction workers on their break sitting few ft from each other

heater down so went to grab parts at 4:30p...honestly the roads in vancouver were pretty busy

when probably 75% of the work force is deemed essential

[Euro7r]

Originally Posted by twitchyzero

lunchtime jog, saw residential construction workers on their break sitting few ft from each other

heater down so went to grab parts at 4:30p...honestly the roads in vancouver were pretty busy

when probably 75% of the work force is deemed essential

i went into the office in downtown today around 9am, streets were relatively quiet, no traffic.

left office around 1:40pm still relatively quiet heading back to south vancouver.

[Ludepower]

Originally Posted by Hondaracer

Dr.Bonnie: people come and go from ICU, the same people who were in ICU yesterday aren’t the same as today and we are ventilating people before they need it to help them recover

Lol fuck the amount of ambiguity in all of this is insane. If you thought 9/11 had conspiracy theories wait till this shit is over

By all accounts Dr. Bonnie has been doing a great job. The numbers prove we can be optimistic.

Save your empty hospital conspiracy theories for after the pandemic.

[StylinRed]

Originally Posted by CivicBlues

What in blazes are you talking about?

I think it's the fox news syndrome

Theyre reporting that cbs etc are showing scenes from Italian hospitals and passing them off as new York (which cbs did) but they're trying to say, in a roundabout? Way, that the situation is fine, and the media is blowing it out of proportion for various reasons (anti trump in the usa etc)

[Manic!]

I just cooked my first N95 in an oven lowest it would go to is 170F. Used a big paper clip to hang it from a rack. I just found out we have one fitness gym in Nanaimo open. crazy.

[MG1]

So much for seniors early hour at Costco. Line ups were longer than normal times, lol. By 8:45 the line up was around two corners of the Willingdon Costco building. Person at front entrance was asked by a customer where they should line up. Answer was, "Go the other way, it'll be quicker." Like WTF? Line up was approaching the third corner. I left as soon as I heard that. I went there for meds. Apparently, even though the pharmacy was supposed to be open at that time, something about getting supplies from the Richmond location delayed the pharmacy opening to after 9:00 am. I went back at 10:00 am. I got in right away, because I had the script from the doctor in hand.


Oh, for you big shitters who have to have ten pallets of toilet paper to get through this pandemic, Costco has really nice toilet paper. Kirkland brand. I believe limits are in effect. I saw maybe ten pallets on the floor. It was reported weeks ago that toilet paper will not be sold out. That there would be plenty to go around. They were right. The manufacturers stepped up production and distribution.

Also, hand sanitizers are making their way. Some dollar stores have them already.

[StylinRed]

My fav brand is Kirkland even tho ppl shit on em (pun intended) but I bought a pack a few months ago, and I'm not even half way thru yet, that's with 3 ppl sharing

Nice about hand sanitizer, guess I didn't need to make my own