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Even an IS500 won't change the fact Lexus just keeps re-using the same drivetrains over and over and over and over

if it's not broken don't fix it just update the styling

i've owned 1st gen is300 for 10 years, never given me any problems just mainly oil changes, couple sets of tires and a new clutch

You have to change or the competition leaves you behind, which is definitely the case with the IS

(I have two first gen IS300’s myself, an auto and a manual)

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Originally Posted by hirevtuner (Post 8991596)

if it's not broken don't fix it just update the styling

i've owned 1st gen is300 for 10 years, never given me any problems just mainly oil changes, couple sets of tires and a new clutch

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In every performance test of note, the M3 outgunned the Lexus, yet it didn’t trail in refinement or comfort. The BMW’s suspension, like the Lexus’s, will never be accused of pampering its driver, but it absorbed every bump without upsetting the chassis.

If they use the same engine with some tweaks there's no way it can beat the M3 of today. BUT judging on the naming scheme, it can also be some sort of twin-turbo 6. If that's true I'm thinking its aim to compare the M340i and C43AMG rather than M3/C63.

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8991512)

Even an IS500 won't change the fact Lexus just keeps re-using the same drivetrains over and over and over and over

I mean, that's their thing and Toyota's thing, that's why their reliability is so high.

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Originally Posted by !Aznboi128 (Post 8991622)

The only problem is everyone else has left them behind.

If the IS500 rumors are true it's the same 5L v8 from before. When it was compared to the E90 m3's V8 it wasn't as fast. How would it compare to the engines of today?

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...parison-tests/

In 2008

If they use the same engine with some tweaks there's no way it can beat the M3 of today. BUT judging on the naming scheme, it can also be some sort of twin-turbo 6. If that's true I'm thinking its aim to compare the M340i and C43AMG rather than M3/C63.

I thought the later revisions of the IS-F finally outdid the E90 M3?

Either ways, this is a regular IS it feels, there's no F moniker.

Some people on this thread need to face reality - the new IS is outdated even before it's launched.

I've driven all 3 generations of IS, and owned the first 2 gen of IS for 9 years combined now

I've owned the 2 of the first generation IS300. Combined, I've owned both for over 4 years

I've owned my 2006 IS350 for 4 years

I've owned my IS-F for 9 months now. I've driven the 3rd Gen IS for 1 week

My IS-F is my 4th Lexus IS that I've owned.

Is the new IS going to be reliable? Very likely yes.

This new generation for 2021, isn't just going to be left behind, but pretty much dead in the water. The specs are not competitive, and going with just a facelift is not going to help in such a difficult market.