MG1,

On the topic of de-funding the police, I've said elsewhere before that the movement found a catchy but polarizing and extremely unfortunate name. The core argument behind the movement isn't really to strip the police of their necessary funding. Rather, the real purpose of the movement is to recognize that with for certain issues such as addiction or mental health issues, the police is a poor resource and the wrong resource to deploy to address them. They simply got shafted on that one by virtue of the fact that they are available 24/7/365. And because they are a poor match for handling these issues, funding for the police that would have been spent on these types of issues should be re-allocated to the proper resources such as councilors and mental health practitioners.

Recently, the Calgary police chief has come out to pretty much express exactly the same sentiments -- this is a respectable police chief that gets what the problem is.

With our current VPD, I am extremely disappointed with Chief Palmer. Instead of making any effort to understand the problems that others are trying to tell him, his instinct is to adopt a position that denies the problem exists, and tries to justify how the proper course of action is to further bolster police funding and resources. FailFish

Our freedoms and liberties are sustained the same way, and that cost is blood. bruh.

If you don't stand behind them, feel free to stand in front of them.

Don't worry I got my $5 sticker from Canadian Tire.

Then there was watching the trapped people jump. I guess they felt it would be easier to go that way than to be slowly burned alive...

https://i2.wp.com/politicallyincorre...-good-ones.jpg

As much as people say Trump is dA WorSTesT PrESidNT 3VeR, I'm still waiting for him to send tens of thousands of young soldiers to a country under a lie so bold, the UN disputes it yet the US still proceeds with it because war profit$ told them to.

You know, like previous administrations did...

previous administrations you mean like bush a republican?

Make better choices, buy better things in the free market

You know, GS8, I have kind of forgotten about that until you mentioned it...

Damn... The visuals are flashing in front of my eyes again now... :(

Ladder 3 NY firetruck trailer being lowered into GroundZero to rest at the future 9/11 museum. This was back in 2011 I believe.

On our last day in NY my wife and I went shopping and happened upon the funeral of a 911 hero, NYFD Chief Ronald Spadafora. He was the head of safety during clean up and died of the toxins ingested as a result.

I was at the 911 Memorial Museum the day before and it was an experience that I’ll never forget. The streets were packed and the energy was palpable.

https://www.nydailynews.com/new-york...629-story.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/29/n...tember-11.html

Not a single day passed of Obama's entire two terms that America wasn't at war, with at least seven countries.
That previous administration?

he U.S. Has Been At War 222 Out of 239 Years.

But then how am I going to show everybody I support the troops?

You mocking the idea shows support; they gave you that right and sustain it.

I would call it the Paul Walker Effect.

To those who didn't know him or watched the Furious movies, it's kind of baffling. To those who followed him and the movies it was a huge deal. Most importantly, it's the way he died.

just my 2 bits.


All deaths matter. Namo Amida Butsu. Rest in Peace.

And all with bipartisan support through Congress.
Except Obama's wars. He didn't feel the need for approval to leave countries destroyed.
Those same people call Trump a dictator :lol

If you want to support the troops join them. Slapping a sticker on the back of your truck that you bought at Canadian tire does next to nothing.

I guess you don't consider that an act of war.

You can't argue with some lefties.

They live in the comfort of peace and stability and argue why are we putting so many "controls" in place. And that law and order don't matter... it's just something created to keep those unfortunate under control.

It never occurred to them that peace takes money and strong-arm policies or simply brute forces to intimidate others in the first place.

For them it's like "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche" a la Marie Antoinette. They think everything they take for granted are just that... free. Never needed to work or fought for it.

They truly believe that a world with no rules and orders are going to be the utopia because everyone are like saints and would do no wrong, we are all equal.

:rukidding:FailFish:joy::fuckthatshit:

You're a real piece. This is the 'fetish' that this thread is about, and you will stop at nothing to mock others in support of showing respect to garner pithy attention.

2,977 died on Sept 11 because a piece of shit trained by Americans told some pieces of shit to fly some planes into some buildings. Because of that and the lie saddam still had american made WMDs hundreds of thousands of people have died and trillions have been spent. Most of Afganistan is still run by the taliban and Iraq is worse off. Good job metals for everyone.

I don't think you're getting the point I was trying to make however I'm not sure how to convey my thoughts more coherently. This is not meant as an insult, I'm just not a very well spoken (typed?) person. I'll take a stab at it though.

There's nothing wrong with showing respect to those killed in the events but there are aspects of it that leave a foul taste in my mouth. One is how much of it seems to be lip service because there is a massive emphasis on "never forget" but the first responders suffering from health issues that are a result of what they were exposed to at ground zero are still fighting to get the support and care they need. Maybe the video below will give a better sense of how large the gulf seems between what is said and what is done.

Another is how the memory of 9/11 has been abused by people in power as an easy button to justify whatever military actions they wanted to take. I don't recall what they used in the 90's but before that I think it was usually communism, which as Manic pointed out is how the US ended up training bin Laden and Rambo III having end credits that did not age well. Yes there is a financial and human cost of conflicts fought to defend the security interests of a nation. But how much of what has been done by the US military is actually for national security and not just financial interests masquerading as defense? Either way, how is defense a justification for the deaths of 300k+ civilians in the Middle East? How many of those troops who signed up to defend their nation were killed for someones bank account? How can veterans be cared for so poorly that 11x as many are killed as a result of suicide compared to combat? Maybe I'm wrong but for me part of supporting the troops is not wanting them to risk harm unless necessary and questioning the motivations of whoever is putting them in harms way.

Thanks for clearing that up. You can help veterans out when they return, I help two here in town (I make sure my children are also involved) that suffer from PTSD due to active combat in Irag and Afghanistan. Putting your money where your mouth is becomes a personal choice, and if the phrase 'never forget' is only a slogan to a person, well, you know what it means for them to only talk the talk.

Helping people is becoming a thing of the past; most prefer to spend their time being keyboard warriors that rant their selfish opinions, rather than taking the time to help those in their communities that have helped everyone sustain the liberty of which those very same keyboard warriors enjoy.

https://www.ae911truth.org/

USA did 911

Yes

And Obama, a Democrat though with less soldiers but more aerial assault vehicles:

https://www.thebureauinvestigates.co...ikes-than-bush

It's unfortunate that Obama did what he did... Especially after running on the hope and change message + getting out of wars.

It's a tough grind for any president, even Trump, and possibly even Sanders (in an alternate universe) to really beat out the military industrial complex funded deep state. Too much money to give up if the world was at peace.