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68style 06-23-2021 09:15 AM

I don't know that I'd want to be a teacher in a private school... parents in public school are bad enough, imagine the blame the teacher gets from parents of privileged kids when the kids fuck up and the parents are using the threat of their future payments against the administration, etc.

Hondaracer 06-23-2021 09:36 AM

Both the teachers I know want to get out of it. One taught in a public high school in Surrey, the other one a public middle school in west Van, his school apperenely was in the wealthiest catchment in Canada.

They both have the same complaint, idiot parents dump their problem children off at school and let the teacher and school deal with them. The one who teaches in west Van has been teaching in west Van for 10+ years and he said it’s basically on an exponential curve with these “problem kids”

Mikoyan 06-23-2021 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by PeanutButter (Post 9031326)
I'm not sure the teachers in private school are better than public school teachers or that they even care more. I'm sure there are crappy teachers in both.

I think you're right that the support is greater because the parents are paying to have their kids in school so they feel more inclined to help out where they can. It seems like in private school on average, the community is better, might just be the type of people in that community.

For some of the private schools, you are REQUIRED to volunteer X number of hours or contribute extra $$ if you don't. It's spelled out in the applications.

Hondaracer 06-23-2021 11:43 AM

Lol that shit is such a joke.

My wife went to Norte Dame where she said her parents were doing non-stop fundraising for all this different shit. They only got a new outdoor field THIS YEAR she graduated in 2003 and they were fund raising for a field then.

Whereas I went to a brand new high school (Fraser Heights) that was soooo much nicer than these private schools that have all the fundraising etc lol

I always poke fun at her that her parents had to break their back to fundraise for these Catholic schools only to go to fucking dumps and see nothing for your efforts (from the Catholic Church of all organizations, who’d of thunk) lol

quasi 06-23-2021 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikoyan (Post 9031344)
For some of the private schools, you are REQUIRED to volunteer X number of hours or contribute extra $$ if you don't. It's spelled out in the applications.

Lol, my sons football in Public School had an option for volunteer hours or pay more but I was like fuck that tell me what I owe? I might be wrong but probably not a lot of parents volunteering at the Private Schools.

Scotsman 06-23-2021 02:39 PM

It's not just that private school teachers make less money per annum but the public school teachers are part of the BCTF.

Therefore they also get to enjoy their golden pension in retirement and have sweet ass dental, vision, and medical coverages we all dream about before they retire.

I’m not sure when it changed but back in the day, the private school teachers were not required to have a teaching degree. They only needed a teaching certificate (non-University). Existing teachers were grandfathered so academically speaking, private school teachers on a whole were less qualified compared to their public counterparts until all the grandfathered teachers retire.

Kind of ironic that you expect more at a private school (best of the best) but yet you have the teachers there that earn less today and tomorrow. I guess it’s for the love of teaching?

Like any profession there’s good ones and bad ones regardless of pay but over the span of a career, the monetary difference is HUGE

68style 06-23-2021 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9031348)

I always poke fun at her that her parents had to break their back to fundraise for these Catholic schools only to go to fucking dumps and see nothing for your efforts (from the Catholic Church of all organizations, who’d of thunk) lol

But… at least she knocks it out of the park on cosplay date night ?

highfive 06-23-2021 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9031348)
Lol that shit is such a joke.

My wife went to Norte Dame where she said her parents were doing non-stop fundraising for all this different shit. They only got a new outdoor field THIS YEAR she graduated in 2003 and they were fund raising for a field then.

Whereas I went to a brand new high school (Fraser Heights) that was soooo much nicer than these private schools that have all the fundraising etc lol

I always poke fun at her that her parents had to break their back to fundraise for these Catholic schools only to go to fucking dumps and see nothing for your efforts (from the Catholic Church of all organizations, who’d of thunk) lol

Well it depends how much they can fundraise each time? school avg around 10-40k?

Field like that cost what? 1.5 mil? at least right? Does take some time I guess?

Hondaracer 06-23-2021 05:58 PM

Whereas my new public school had all those built with public money, no fund raising required. Brand new everything? Lol

Also, the school did not have a field for 20 years..in that time they were using public parks as outdoor rec spaces, which frankly feels like some sort of violation in itself lol

ntan 06-24-2021 01:49 PM

On the topic of private schools... any insights/opinion on St. Georges/York House etc.? I came from a pretty average working class family and really benefited from the honours programs in hs (East Van school, really helped prep me for University + more critical thinking). I'm now at that age where I want to start planning for my future kids, and with the loss of such program, I want to find a school where my kids have access to these programs if they're fit for it (the public school by me, Prince of Wales will not have any honours program, and it seems like they'll be losing their mini school as well)


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