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westopher 07-13-2021 11:43 AM
Henry Ford is a literal nazi who’s complimented by Hitler by name, in mein kampf
McDonald’s pioneered the concept of feeding people GMO trash which was responsible for the obesity epidemic in America
Amazon is a giant dropshipper/logistics company dependent on avoiding taxes, worker abuse and exploiting the laziness of people to destroy small businesses and prevent the proper function of local economies.
I get the point you are trying to make, but you made the point of why people hate corporations with these examples.
It’s a simple consistency between all of them. Being completely morally bankrupt.

MarkyMark 07-13-2021 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by JD¹³ (Post 9033471)
This post couldn't be more wrong. Horribly pessimistic.

Henry Ford built his first car in a workshop behind his house. 7 years later the Ford Motor Company built it's first car in it's first plant. He went on to revolutionize the idea of mass production and assembly lines.

Two brothers opened a neighborhood restaurant in California and soon learned from the mass production / assembly line method and brought it to the food industry. Driving costs down, making food faster, serving more customers. That monster is known as McDonald's.

Amazon started as an alternative to the brick and mortar book store at a time when the internet was in its infancy but already revolutionizing commerce. He sold his first book online in 1995 to someone on dial up using Netscape, a barely year old new way to browse 'websites' and send 'email'.

I could go on but ALL these corporations started as someone with an idea. The difference is scale of time, ingenuity, and hard work. And a lot of luck. These billionaires were LITERALLY mom and pop style businesses when they started that went beyond popular and into to the category of revolutionary and integral in modern society. There are people out there right now who are working on ideas and businesses that will make them household name billionaires in 10 years, or less.
Ok, so these companies started out small and got huge. What are we arguing about? The whole point of my post was a successful business and a multi-billion dollar successful business aren't close to the same thing. I didn't say they could never become huge, but if they did they should be taxed accordingly.

JD¹³ 07-13-2021 12:16 PM
While that all may be true we are all enjoying the fruits of their business today. You could find a negative point about every large business or corporation. Money, power, and the influence they have on people will always be a problem for mankind. Does that make Elon Musk a "good" billionaire since he's sold most of his material possessions? Or is he still a tax cheat piece of shit because he moved to Texas which doesnÂ’t collect state income or capital gains tax for individuals?

Is there an example of a flawless billionaire, corporation, etc? Not argumentative, actually curious. Who are the examples to look to?

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Originally Posted by MarkyMark (Post 9033480)
Ok, so these companies started out small and got huge. What are we arguing about? The whole point of my post was a successful business and a multi-billion dollar successful business aren't close to the same thing. I didn't say they could never become huge, but if they did they should be taxed accordingly.
Dude, what? You said "Billionaires and a mom and pop restaurant that gets popular are so different it's ridiculous" and that "[no one has] any power to do fuck all about it and they never will." I posted examples that exactly counter that and now you're saying a successful business and a multi-billion dollar business aren't the same thing. I just proved that they are, with time. What point do you want to stick with? Better tax laws that allow for a balance of revenue to the state/country that they operate in while being an attractive enough tax rate to keep business there and people employed? I think we can all agree with that.

underscore 07-13-2021 12:16 PM
There's nothing wrong with GMO's, and they certainly aren't the reason McDicks helped make so many people so obese though.

MarkyMark 07-13-2021 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by JD¹³ (Post 9033483)
While that all may be true we are all enjoying the fruits of their business today. You could find a negative point about every large business or corporation. Money, power, and the influence they have on people will always be a problem for mankind. Does that make Elon Musk a "good" billionaire since he's sold most of his material possessions? Or is he still a tax cheat piece of shit because he moved to Texas which doesnÂ’t collect state income or capital gains tax for individuals?

Is there an example of a flawless billionaire, corporation, etc? Not argumentative, actually curious. Who are the examples to look to?



Dude, what? You said "Billionaires and a mom and pop restaurant that gets popular are so different it's ridiculous" and that "[no one has] any power to do fuck all about it and they never will." I posted examples that exactly counter that and now you're saying a successful business and a multi-billion dollar business aren't the same thing. I just proved that they are, with time. What point do you want to stick with? Better tax laws that allow for a balance of revenue to the state/country that they operate in while being an attractive enough tax rate to keep business there and people employed? I think we can all agree with that.
My whole post was towards Hondaracer saying that people might group multi-billionaires and some dude with 50 million together. I said that was ridiculous and it is. You proved nothing except a handful of businesses that popped off and became huge, that doesn't mean every successful business it going to be worth billions one day. You decided to go off on one point about small business becoming huge and what point are you trying to make on top of that?

westopher 07-13-2021 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 9033484)
There's nothing wrong with GMO's, and they certainly aren't the reason McDicks helped make so many people so obese though.
There's lots wrong with the GMOs that McDonalds uses.
Yes there are beneficial ones, bananas, seedless watermelons, etc
There's ones McDonalds uses, high fructose corn syrup, "vegetable oil" filled with trans fats, beef pumped full of steroids and absolutely hammered full of food right before slaughter on shit covered killing floors, etc.
I'm not saying GMOs made people fat, I'm saying the food is full of irresponsible GMOs, and the fast food revolution in America, and the fact that inequality also means it's all the lower class can afford, is the reason America is absurdly obese. It's cheaper to get McDonalds than it is to eat fresh vegetables.

68style 07-14-2021 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9033468)
I'm going off topic of the space ship, but on topic of the things we were discussing, just in case someone wanted to see something hilarious.
https://scontent.fcxh2-1.fna.fbcdn.n...9a&oe=60F3ABAA
I clicked on this ... person's(?)... Twitter profile... and on the side where it says "You might like" the first suggestion was Matt Gaetz.

LOL.

Says a lot about her algorithm settings that the first similar result is that fuckface.

CivicBlues 07-14-2021 12:00 PM
Lauren Boebert...lol. The "anti-AOC" they call her...well I guess if she wasn't a total dumpster fire.

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In 2015, Boebert was arrested in Mesa County for making a public disturbance at a musical festival. In 2016, she pleaded guilty to an unsafe vehicle charge after rolling her car into a ditch late at night. In 2017, her restaurant was responsible for over 80 cases of food poisoning at the Garfield County Rodeo after serving food without a license.

Manic! 07-20-2021 10:49 AM

murd0c 07-20-2021 11:24 AM
Space is Amazon territory.. That is way way more impressive then anything Virgin did!!

StylinRed 07-20-2021 03:49 PM
He went up to the karman line at least

skidz 07-20-2021 04:57 PM
are all the soyboys from the coronavirus thread going there?

whitev70r 07-20-2021 07:32 PM
Branson's design looks a bit better, it looks like a reusable craft. Bezo's ... looks like a rocket with a capsule and it landed with a thud. Not even in water, it landed on ground ... as a passenger, that must have jarring !!!

Hondaracer 07-20-2021 07:54 PM
Bezos actually goes to space, thus the vehicle

In order to fly in and out of space you’d have to create somthing closer to the shuttle than to Bransons rocket ride

Manic! 07-20-2021 08:15 PM
The landing did look hard. They said retro rockets where suppose to fire just before landing but but i didn't see any. Both parts of the rockets are reusable.

StylinRed 07-20-2021 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9034149)
Bezos actually goes to space
still well within Earth's atmosphere (just sayin)

CivicBlues 07-21-2021 06:56 AM
Is anyone else surprised Jeff Bezos has a twin-like brother that went up to space with him? LOL, the evil-supervillain vibe with this guy just got dialed up a bit more.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3UuUUCWQAo1I3p.jpg

underscore 07-21-2021 09:24 AM
Is this supposed to be impressive or something? It's not like these guys are doing anything new here.

highfive 07-21-2021 09:26 AM
Loving the online memes of Bezos and doctor evil... lol

Space was virgin territory and Bezos sends up a dildo looking spaceship haha

westopher 07-21-2021 09:59 AM
Didn’t red bull send something up as high as the virgin craft to have a dude skydive from it?

Manic! 07-21-2021 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 9034215)
Didn’t red bull send something up as high as the virgin craft to have a dude skydive from it?
https://e3.365dm.com/21/07/768x432/s...20210703082346

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_diving

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In 2014, Alan Eustace set the current world record highest and longest-distance free fall jump when he jumped from 135,908 feet (41.425 km) and remained in free fall for 123,334 feet (37.592 km)

highfive 07-21-2021 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by CivicBlues (Post 9034179)
Is anyone else surprised Jeff Bezos has a twin-like brother that went up to space with him? LOL, the evil-supervillain vibe with this guy just got dialed up a bit more.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3UuUUCWQAo1I3p.jpg

His laugh is def evil... lol

Hondaracer 07-21-2021 11:08 AM
So all this time, money, and resources to basically experience weightlessness for a few minutes and not really go to space..

GGnoRE 07-21-2021 12:11 PM
I know we all want to poo poo on the billionaires but this is a game-changer in space exploration. 10 years ago, even 5 years ago, would you have ever imagined exploring space as a civilian? Now its possible as long as you got $$$. As for the distance into space, this is literally just the beginning lol

CivicBlues 07-21-2021 12:30 PM
Great so instead of just becoming a test pilot, being selected by the Canadian Space Agency and going through a grueling training program for Astronauts; I just have to become a billionaire now. Easy peazy lemon squeezy!


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