Crazy how fast Toyota dumped the Venza/Harrier. Seems like everyone forgot about it, so you can pick up a fully loaded one for about low-mid 40s. Great crossover that never really had its heyday.

I'm probably in the minority that I'm interested in the Venza replacement - the Crown Signia. I think it'll be a great family hauler, and it'll give us the most amount of space to sit without going the minivan route.

the Crown Signia will sell better than the Venza - its' sporty look will appeal to the LATAM families who are currently modding top trim Highlanders in the US.

It's just the wrong product for North Americans - small, noisy, slow, no brand, and XLE is more expensive than Q5 Technik to finance in Canada*.
like bro, what are these bezels on the LE model I rented?
https://iili.io/dVQlfiN.jpg

My sister/mom aren't brand conscious or that picky, but still asked me if something was wrong with the car cuz it was so loud trying to keep up with 130kmh highway traffic
+ they won't look at a car without 360/autopark after going down T&T and DT parking lot ramps in an X6 I had.

No 360 is almost a dealbreaker for a daily for nowadays IMO. So useful for city parking/driving. Honda and Toyota not including it or limiting to top trim is very dumb.

It's because Honda/Toyota overinvest in the safety systems (Adaptive Cruise, etc) while the Germans leave it optional.

The bigger problem is even if you pay for it on the Japanese car, it's really bad.
Basic stuff like parking sensor on MY24 RX I drove completely missed a pole.

On this Tundra, FFS the lines aren't even lined up
https://tap.fremontmotors.com/wp-con...lti-Camera.jpg

LOL japanese cars still have 480p camera while I can get a 4k front and rear cam + mirror from amazon for $100

The automotive grade cameras and screens are designed to withstand a wider range of temperature extremes. Any Amazon-spec cheapo camera or head unit is unlikely to last as long. Toyota and Honda have never been in the forefront of tech and tend to be quite conservative with adopting new technologies in general.

Legacy car makers in general suck at doing tech, but they're investing more and more money into it each year.

I'm pretty keen on it as well - looks like tonnes of space and near Lexus grade quality for less money. Dealer tells me they aren't accepting orders right now as volumes are going to be really low for some time though. With Audi and BMW choosing not to send their PHEV compact SUVs over this leaves me a very short list of options - XC60, GLC 350e, and the Crown Signia with the Crown running at least $20k less (after taxes) than the Volvo and Mercedes.

So it's bigger, faster, and has more "visible" leather than the NX300h.

https://images.cars.com/cldstatic/wp...row-scaled.jpg

Kinda the Venza's problems, sportier styling, solid SUV for the late 20s/early 30s working-middle class Toyota buyers to aspire to, probably going to stay low volume.

Next CX5/50 is how they'll amortize development cost to younger buyers.
Will have to see how Mazda improves tech cuz the CX90 felt pretty half assed.
Laggy/low resolution cluster and main screen.

FFS the Americans been doing this stuff right since 2015 in the Charger/Grand Cherokee

its not like they make the cameras in house, its bought from someone connected to the head unit using an AV cable. Heck the move to AA /Carplay should save them money :lawl:

a 2014 merc reverse cam should not perform better than a 2023 RX reverse cam

Welcome to JDM supplier politics

The Crown lineup is basically just a passion product in NA. Too expensive to be a Toyota, and most will just step into a Lexus for a similar price.

awd full-time savagegeese reports 13l/100km around town on premium

...in a 4cyl hybrid on all-seasons and that's the lightest one too, in flat midwest

saw a tan one yesterday, it looks great but not sure if it's 90k great but i suppose at least it's not blowing up like new GX/taco/tundra, yet?

You're not alone. My wife and I are very interested and the reviews are highly favourable with very few things to really complain about. While not the same car, the Crown (not the Signia) is still the top contender on our list.

Or it's a Panamera GTS. :lol