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yoshi86 06-24-2024 09:38 AM

How ICBC value JDM cars?
 
Hi all,

I am going to purchase an EP3 TypeR soon, and this is my first JDM RHD car.
I've heard that ICBC wouldn't pay much for a JDM if it is total lost of stolen.
And they would try to total lost a JDM even it is an small accident. Is that true?

For my case, it's an EP3R, and would they value it as a SIR or an normal Civic?

Should I do an appraisal before hand?

Sorry if these are dumb questions, and thanks in advance for any info and suggestions :)

JDMDreams 06-24-2024 11:09 AM

They still pay based on market value, so you just gotta argue with comps. I've had damage on JDM cars where it exceeded the value I paid for the car and icbc still fixed it and clean title :fulloffuck: so it depends on what's happened and what sort of damage it is.

You might get f over with the book value though cuz there's ep3s here. I had to pay full transfer tax based on their book value cuz there's a NA version of my car even though my car was never officially offered here and the steering wheel is on the right side. :QQ:

yoshi86 06-24-2024 12:21 PM

Thanks for the info, sounds so complicated :QQ:

Since I am buying it local, so I don't even know if there is any difference if I pay the full transfer tax base on the sold price or just pay base on the local EP3s book value. ICBC might just think it is a local EP3 anyways if it got stolen or total lost.

JDMDreams 06-24-2024 12:30 PM

Hard to say, you can ask a broker to quote you on the tax. Most JDM that doesn't exist here will just follow the amount on the transfer form.

underscore 06-24-2024 12:36 PM

I don't know about Civics, but for my Celica they consider it the same as the base 2WD models and worth about $500.

JDMDreams 06-24-2024 12:40 PM

It's not complicated, to buy and register if it's already here, just call with VIN to get quote. It's just that is it gets damaged then who knows

yoshi86 06-24-2024 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by underscore (Post 9140372)
I don't know about Civics, but for my Celica they consider it the same as the base 2WD models and worth about $500.

So if I pay 12% tax base on the price I paid (said $18k), that doesn't change the way ICBC think that it is a local Civic which worth about $3000.

donk. 06-24-2024 03:23 PM

Tell ICBC you paid 3k for it instead of 18k.

If their blue book value is 4k, you will pay tax on 4k.
If you say you paid 18k, they will tax you on 18k.

Above is for private sale.

If you bought at a dealer, then you pay whatever tax is sale price.

yoshi86 06-24-2024 03:49 PM

I went to Auto plan earlier and ask one of the agents, in my case, sounds like how much I wrote for the sold price on the transfer paper doesn't really matter to what ICBC think the car is worth, if it is total lost, they will still paid me base on the blue book or current market value.

JDMDreams 06-24-2024 07:36 PM

What you paid doesn't matter in case of damage, it's the current market value. If you bought a Diablo for $100k 15 years ago they will still pay you out like $500k and not $100 you paid

The Producer 06-25-2024 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoshi86 (Post 9140405)
I went to Auto plan earlier and ask one of the agents, in my case, sounds like how much I wrote for the sold price on the transfer paper doesn't really matter to what ICBC think the car is worth, if it is total lost, they will still paid me base on the blue book or current market value.

you can purchase 3rd party coverage for agreed value on the vehicle if you wish - but none of that has anything to do with how much tax you pay on transfer

Please tell me you didn't declare 18 grand on the form and paid 12% PST on that.

If you did you gave them an extra 15-1800 bucks for no reason *

*unless you bought through a dealer, in which case them's the breaks

yoshi86 06-25-2024 08:21 AM

Thanks for the info everyone, learn new things everyday, glad I asked here.
Just picked up the car last night and paid the tax based on $3k :D since it was a private sale.
Love the R and need to get use to drive on the right side :P

68style 06-25-2024 08:24 AM

RS helps prevent the unjust collection of $1,800 this week, woooooo

The Producer 06-25-2024 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yoshi86 (Post 9140556)
Thanks for the info everyone, learn new things everyday, glad I asked here.
Just picked up the car last night and paid the tax based on $3k :D since it was a private sale.
Love the R and need to get use to drive on the right side :P

YES fuck used vehicle taxes so much :ilied:

may want to look into some 3rd part insurance providers for agreed value coverage.

JDMDreams 06-25-2024 09:54 AM

Is the ep3 type r that much better than just a local sourced k20 car? Rsx, CSX? I'm toying with the idea of fd2 but I don't need a sedan

Badhobz 06-25-2024 10:36 AM

^hu hu hu, you can keep on... JDM dreaming then.... hu huh u!!! ill see myself out now.

68style 06-25-2024 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9140570)
Is the ep3 type r that much better than just a local sourced k20 car? Rsx, CSX? I'm toying with the idea of fd2 but I don't need a sedan

There's a very big difference between a K20A3 on the local EP3 which is just a base RSX engine and the K20 the Type R or RSX Type-S use.

BIC_BAWS 06-25-2024 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMDreams (Post 9140496)
What you paid doesn't matter in case of damage, it's the current market value. If you bought a Diablo for $100k 15 years ago they will still pay you out like $500k and not $100 you paid

This is incorrect.. if the vehicle gets written off within a short duration of purchasing it. LOL they gave me a hard time with mine.

68style 06-25-2024 12:30 PM

They looked at your history and were like... dis guy paid some Surrey jack to run his car


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