Lets Just Talk About 4wd Turbo Celicas [Archive]

Timpo

12-27-2003, 04:04 PM

These are kouki GT-Four...

can you see the difference? these cars have projector headlights.:)

http://img107.ac.yahoo.co.jp/users/1/5/9/2/c030099001green_city-imgbatch_1072458040/640x480-m002246248720031.jpg
http://img107.ac.yahoo.co.jp/users/1/5/9/2/c030099001green_city-imgbatch_1072458040/640x480-m001962527630081.jpg

m1ataman

12-27-2003, 04:18 PM

Why on earth would anyone want to talk about 4wd Turbo Celicas??? J/K :D

oldsnail

12-27-2003, 04:27 PM

the same engine is found in the MR2 Turbo

http://members.shaw.ca/littledragonli/S50%20020.jpg

Morgin

12-27-2003, 04:31 PM

Timpo, I'm warning you... if you turn this into a picture whoring thread, I will personally come over and throw your computer out a window.

BC-X

12-27-2003, 04:32 PM

Originally posted by Morgin
Timpo, I'm warning you... if you turn this into a picture whoring thread, I will personally come over and throw your computer out a window.

my thoughts exactly..

MidnightMechanic

12-27-2003, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by oldsnail
the same engine is found in the MR2 Turbo

Only the head of the 3SGTE is made by Yamaha though right? I know that Toyota and Yamaha have had a partnership for a little while, sharing valve train components and such. Its my understanding that the bottom end it all Toyota.

MajorBludd

12-27-2003, 04:53 PM

SR block owns ! :D

i had to throw that in :p

Timpo

12-27-2003, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by MidnightMechanic
Only the head of the 3SGTE is made by Yamaha though right? I know that Toyota and Yamaha have had a partnership for a little while, sharing valve train components and such. Its my understanding that the bottom end it all Toyota.
I thought Ford Taurus' engine was made by Yamaha too...or engineered by Yamaha...

Timpo

12-27-2003, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by Morgin
Timpo, I'm warning you... if you turn this into a picture whoring thread, I will personally come over and throw your computer out a window. some pictures are cool though...

I mean...I don't post any pointless pictures...

The-RX7

12-27-2003, 05:03 PM

Alright! Now Timpo can't whore the RX-7 thread, he has a new home to whore

Timpo

12-27-2003, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by The-RX7
Alright! Now Timpo can't whore the RX-7 thread, he has a new home to whore
I was posting some cool RX-7 pictures tho...well...in my opinion anyways.

MidnightMechanic

12-27-2003, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by Timpo
I thought Ford Taurus' engine was made by Yamaha too...or engineered by Yamaha...

The Ford Taurus SHO had a Yamaha V6 in it, but that's not the point. The point was that the 3SGTE is not entirely built by Yamaha, just the valve train and head.

Timpo

12-27-2003, 05:07 PM

Timpo

12-27-2003, 05:10 PM

oh by the way
is it possible to make the GT-Four conversion on the Celica we have here?
convert everything...like engine, body, tranny, drivetrain(to make it 4WD) and etc...
I think it is possible but I have never seen any people who have done the conversion.

Buster

12-27-2003, 05:29 PM

Can we change this to the Turbo AWD thread.....or as a certain Honda owner calls it.......Bog.....Zoom.

MidnightMechanic

12-27-2003, 06:29 PM

Originally posted by Timpo
oh by the way
is it possible to make the GT-Four conversion on the Celica we have here?
convert everything...like engine, body, tranny, drivetrain(to make it 4WD) and etc...
I think it is possible but I have never seen any people who have done the conversion.

Yes its possible because the Celica that we have over here in North America, and the ST-205 (Celica All trac in japan) share the same platform. So you could get the engine, drivetrain, rear subframe and different body panels and convert it. Therefore you would have one of the only ST-205 Celica All tracs in North America. Its a hell of a lot of work, but it "can" be done. And just when you think it can't get any better. You might think, well, where the hell am I going to find a written off ST205 in Japan to ship over here? The answer, you don't need one. The engine, as said earlier, can be sourced from an MR2 turbo, while the drivetrain and rear subframe can all be taken from a 4WD Toyota Rav4. Go figure!

Mr. WRX

12-27-2003, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by Buster
.....or as a certain Honda owner calls it.......Bog.....Zoom.

it only bogs if you do it wrong...so he must have been watching me... :lol

Zeus

12-27-2003, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by MidnightMechanic
The Ford Taurus SHO had a Yamaha V6 in it, but that's not the point. The point was that the 3SGTE is not entirely built by Yamaha, just the valve train and head.

you are correct sir only the head was done by yamaha :)

Originally posted by MidnightMechanic
Yes its possible because the Celica that we have over here in North America, and the ST-205 (Celica All trac in japan) share the same platform. So you could get the engine, drivetrain, rear subframe and different body panels and convert it. Therefore you would have one of the only ST-205 Celica All tracs in North America. Its a hell of a lot of work, but it "can" be done. And just when you think it can't get any better. You might think, well, where the hell am I going to find a written off ST205 in Japan to ship over here? The answer, you don't need one. The engine, as said earlier, can be sourced from an MR2 turbo, while the drivetrain and rear subframe can all be taken from a 4WD Toyota Rav4. Go figure!

for the most part you are right... however swapping in the mr2 engine is a pain in the ass cause certain things are different for example the alternator is on the otherside... but it CAN be done like you said...

Originally posted by MajorBludd
SR block owns ! :D

i had to throw that in :p

meh the three major four cylenders all have very similar power potential on stock componants

MidnightMechanic

12-27-2003, 07:02 PM

Originally posted by GT-Four
for the most part you are right... however swapping in the mr2 engine is a pain in the ass cause certain things are different for example the alternator is on the otherside... but it CAN be done like you said...

If I was in that deep, fabbing an alternator bracket would be the LEAST of my worries. ;)

Timpo

12-27-2003, 08:49 PM

so the Celica GT-Four has the exact same drivetrain as 4WD RAV4?

Enraged

12-27-2003, 09:38 PM

12s on a stock bottom end is hard to do? wow, i thought gt4s were faster than that. fuel, fmic, upgraded turbo, fuel tuning, a good launch and you should be there no problem. or do gt4s like eating pistons and trannys?

Hondatech

12-28-2003, 12:38 AM

or as a certain Honda owner calls it.......Bog.....Zoom.

;) :D

Timpo

12-28-2003, 07:52 AM

ok I am not trying to postwhore.
I just wanna show you guys nice pictures of some GT-Fours...

http://www.geocities.co.jp/MotorCity-Circuit/4389/99461.jpg
http://www.geocities.co.jp/MotorCity-Circuit/4389/99511.jpg

Timpo

12-28-2003, 07:53 AM

pretty nice graphics...:)

http://www.geocities.co.jp/MotorCity-Circuit/4389/466.jpg
http://www.geocities.co.jp/MotorCity-Circuit/4389/4853.jpg
http://www.geocities.co.jp/MotorCity-Circuit/4389/4831.jpg

Timpo

12-28-2003, 07:57 AM

Celica GT-Four with VeilSide bodykit.

http://www.geocities.co.jp/MotorCity-Circuit/4389/44812.jpg

Gen4TurboCiv

12-28-2003, 09:20 AM

Nice cars, too bad about the weight.

Timpo

12-28-2003, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by Gen4TurboCiv
Nice cars, too bad about the weight.

The Celica GT-Four weighs 1380kg (3036lbs).
They aren't light...but not that heavy either.

2.0L 4cyl 255HP :)

Zeus

12-28-2003, 11:48 AM

Originally posted by MidnightMechanic
If I was in that deep, fabbing an alternator bracket would be the LEAST of my worries. ;)

its just one of the things... from the people that have tried it they said it was a major pain in the ass... it would be better to save yourself the trouble and just buy a real gtfour motor they arent that hard to come by

Timpo

12-28-2003, 06:19 PM

some ST182,ST183 Celicas...:D

2tone coloured Celica:)

http://celica18.hp.infoseek.co.jp/rbceli1.jpg
http://celica18.hp.infoseek.co.jp/myrb1.jpg
http://celica18.hp.infoseek.co.jp/myrb2.jpg

Timpo

12-28-2003, 06:22 PM

Celica with Hiro front lip and rear spoiler.

http://celica18.hp.infoseek.co.jp/hiro1.jpg
http://celica18.hp.infoseek.co.jp/hiro2.jpg

Timpo

12-28-2003, 06:33 PM

:D

http://celica18.hp.infoseek.co.jp/ck1.jpg
http://celica18.hp.infoseek.co.jp/ck2.jpg
http://celica18.hp.infoseek.co.jp/ck3.jpg
http://celica18.hp.infoseek.co.jp/p2.jpg

12-28-2003, 06:35 PM

my god those are ugly... i like them plain and simple, Ie: blakes

Timpo

12-28-2003, 06:42 PM

Originally posted by 7G
my god those are ugly... i like them plain and simple, Ie: blakes yeah but this one is OK

http://celica18.hp.infoseek.co.jp/hiro1.jpg

Monster Hui

12-28-2003, 10:38 PM

okay, nevermind about the looks... these mean business :agree:

http://www.motor-land.net/mtld/image.mld/1025669038.jpg

http://www.motor-land.net/mtld/image.mld/1021013056.jpg
http://www.motor-land.net/mtld/image.mld/1021013056jpg

http://www.alltrac.net/Y2Kcelica/9secFront.jpg
the HKS drag celica is fwd... still, 3sgte... first fwd car to break 10 seconds

NashMan

12-29-2003, 10:50 AM

yamaha has bean wiht soem other companyes as well

ford
toyota being there man one they do alot of head's for toyota

head's that i know of made by yamaha

22r head
1jz
2jz
3sgte
4agze/4age
i don't remmber if the 7m haed was made by yamaha i think the 5 m and 6m was cause there the same haed

but yae yamaha makes really gooed heads one of there best they have ever made was int he 1jz found int eh mrk 3 supra
and some other i just can't remmber block numbers

Zeus

12-30-2003, 09:11 AM

http://www.alltrac.net/members/PatrickChinshue/patengine.jpg

http://www.alltrac.net/members/PatrickChinshue/patfront.jpg

http://www.alltrac.net/members/PatrickChinshue/MVC-004S.jpg

http://us.f1.yahoofs.com/users/4f670f42/bc/Mels+Car/__sr_/Mel+and+her+car.jpg?phqRc8_A1AyBWN0m YUMMY!!!!!!

Zeus

12-30-2003, 09:12 AM

Originally posted by Gen4TurboCiv
Nice cars, too bad about the weight.

its funny you say that... there was just a thread on alltrac.net asking why they have this stereotype for being sooooo heavy... when in reality they are no heavier than other awd cars of the time... and only maybe 100lbs more than current renditions

Timpo

12-30-2003, 10:14 AM

hey that celica has two blow off valves...

Timpo

12-30-2003, 10:57 AM

http://www9.ocn.ne.jp/~taku205/t_new.gif http://www9.ocn.ne.jp/~taku205/nekohurihuri.gif
projector headlights:)(factory)

http://webclub.kcom.ne.jp/mb/erolin/st205e/parts/p29/GT4_MOD0014.jpg
http://webclub.kcom.ne.jp/mb/erolin/st205e/parts/p29/IMG_2733.jpg

NanaimoRx-7

12-30-2003, 11:15 AM

That black one is nicely done. Sexy.

Zeus

12-30-2003, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by NanaimoRx-7
That black one is nicely done. Sexy.

runs 10's too ;)

so its "decently" quick

Timpo

12-30-2003, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by GT-Four
runs 10's too ;)

so its "decently" quick

how many hp?

Zeus

12-30-2003, 06:53 PM

actually a bunch of the florida guys including him just did a big dyno session and we are waiting for the results.. but it should be in the 5-600 range :)

Jewelz_firebird

12-30-2003, 07:16 PM

Originally posted by Timpo
[B] http://www9.ocn.ne.jp/~taku205/t_new.gif http://www9.ocn.ne.jp/~taku205/nekohurihuri.gif

[IMG]http://webclub.kcom.ne.jp/mb/erolin/st205e/parts/p29/GT4_MOD0014.jpg

OMG ITS KITTY!!! :D..

but anyways nice cars. not fond of the 2 tone thing tho

Zeus

12-31-2003, 09:08 AM

Originally posted by Timpo
how many hp?

results are in

556 awhp!!!

Timpo

12-31-2003, 10:06 AM

Originally posted by GT-Four
results are in

556 awhp!!!
damn it

that's really good:D

oldsnail

01-03-2004, 10:46 AM

Originally posted by Timpo
The Celica GT-Four weighs 1380kg (3036lbs).
They aren't light...but not that heavy either.

2.0L 4cyl 255HP :)

i believe the latest celica gt4's had
265hp
and the MR2 had
245hp.

the stock 245hp mr2 can do the mid 13's.

Zeus

01-03-2004, 11:29 AM

the latest gen celica's did infact have 255 while the mr2's had 245... the only difference between the celica and the mr2 are the intercooler (motor wise anyway) which goes to show just how efficient the st205 water to air intercooler actually is...

JD¹³

01-03-2004, 11:48 AM

Must have had fun out there last night Blake, saw you and waved as I plowed my FF POS through the intersection :lol

Zeus

01-03-2004, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by JD¹³
Must have had fun out there last night Blake, saw you and waved as I plowed my FF POS through the intersection :lol

i was sleeping last night ;) as was my car... you were waving at someone else :lol

JD¹³

01-03-2004, 11:56 AM

No way! I saw the gunmetal rims and hood scoop! It was you I swear!

Zeus

01-03-2004, 12:03 PM

well seeings how i was skiing yesterday and driving the truck you are mistaken... i was at home and didnt leave at 7 I SWEAR :P

i think you are loosing your mind

JD¹³

01-03-2004, 01:03 PM

K well someone else must have been like "WTF is he waving at" then :haha:

MidnightMechanic

01-03-2004, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by GT-Four
the latest gen celica's did infact have 255 while the mr2's had 245... the only difference between the celica and the mr2 are the intercooler (motor wise anyway) which goes to show just how efficient the st205 water to air intercooler actually is...

Either that or the fact that the SW20 MR2 has very VERY limited air flow in the engine compartment, resulting in higher intake temps. The MR2 should have had the water-to-air IC, and the ST205 should have had a frontmount.

Zeus

01-03-2004, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by MidnightMechanic
Either that or the fact that the SW20 MR2 has very VERY limited air flow in the engine compartment, resulting in higher intake temps. The MR2 should have had the water-to-air IC, and the ST205 should have had a frontmount.

I SOOOOO AGREE!!!

the mr2 responds very well to a water to air caue you can front mount the rad... which is much easier than running ic pipes all the way to the front...

the gtfour doesnt need an fmic but it would be cool...

however i think toyota just rated them differently and i doubt they actually dyno tested them to see air temp diffs rather the 205 motor with the larger and better flowing ic obviously will gain in power and air flow... the stock a2a ic is HORRIBLE and a very old design..

tis a shame they didnt think of the 205 wta ic for the mr2's but meh

Monster Hui

01-04-2004, 01:03 AM

Originally posted by GT-Four

...the gtfour doesnt need an fmic but it would be cool...

hey, if it's cool.. it needs it! :p

Dustin Allenby

01-04-2004, 02:18 PM

id show u guys a pic of my alltrac celica, but i dunno how to add pics onto my reply!..its a 92, that needs some nice 5spoke OZ wheels! Blitz turbo timer, apex n1. i live a bit north of nanaimo

MidnightMechanic

01-04-2004, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by GT-Four
I SOOOOO AGREE!!!

the mr2 responds very well to a water to air caue you can front mount the rad... which is much easier than running ic pipes all the way to the front...

the gtfour doesnt need an fmic but it would be cool...

however i think toyota just rated them differently and i doubt they actually dyno tested them to see air temp diffs rather the 205 motor with the larger and better flowing ic obviously will gain in power and air flow... the stock a2a ic is HORRIBLE and a very old design..

tis a shame they didnt think of the 205 wta ic for the mr2's but meh

"running ic pipes all the way to the front... "

2 words, one of which being "turbo", the other being "lag" :p :lol

Is the intake manifold design any different between the All Tracs and the turbo MR2s? I know that at high boost, #3 cyl can get a little too much air due to the design, which can lead to running lean.

Zeus

01-06-2004, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by Dustin Allenby
id show u guys a pic of my alltrac celica, but i dunno how to add pics onto my reply!..its a 92, that needs some nice 5spoke OZ wheels! Blitz turbo timer, apex n1. i live a bit north of nanaimo

dude email me your pics!

and welcome to the board man cool to see another alltrac on the board
Originally posted by MidnightMechanic
"running ic pipes all the way to the front... "

2 words, one of which being "turbo", the other being "lag" :p :lol

Is the intake manifold design any different between the All Tracs and the turbo MR2s? I know that at high boost, #3 cyl can get a little too much air due to the design, which can lead to running lean.

the intake manifold is identicle... :( and the lean on the inside cylenders is ghey... the later designed manifolds on the 205's cured that problem... but im even more interested in the caldina manifold as it has a side mounted throttle body which will be awesome for a front mounted intercooler piping

oldsnail

01-07-2004, 02:34 PM

Originally posted by GT-Four
dude email me your pics!

and welcome to the board man cool to see another alltrac on the board

the intake manifold is identicle... :( and the lean on the inside cylenders is ghey... the later designed manifolds on the 205's cured that problem... but im even more interested in the caldina manifold as it has a side mounted throttle body which will be awesome for a front mounted intercooler piping

that makes 2 or 3 all- trac celica's on the island board?

MidnightMechanic

01-07-2004, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by GT-Four
dude email me your pics!

and welcome to the board man cool to see another alltrac on the board

the intake manifold is identicle... :( and the lean on the inside cylenders is ghey... the later designed manifolds on the 205's cured that problem... but im even more interested in the caldina manifold as it has a side mounted throttle body which will be awesome for a front mounted intercooler piping

Click on "Intake Manifolds"

http://www.trueleo.com/ :D $500 USD gets you a pretty nice unit. Troy is also in this year's USCC in Sport Compact Car mag.

Zeus

01-07-2004, 09:15 PM

he also blows up his motor on the dyno ;)

i know all about that guy have talked to him many times on the mr2boards....

i dont really like his intake manifold just cause its too big ide like something that keeps the tvis as well to maintain as much lowened as possible

MidnightMechanic

01-07-2004, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by GT-Four
he also blows up his motor on the dyno ;)

i know all about that guy have talked to him many times on the mr2boards....

i dont really like his intake manifold just cause its too big ide like something that keeps the tvis as well to maintain as much lowened as possible

You obviously didnt see the specs from the flowbench man!

Look at the continuity between cylinders!
All numbers are in CFM at 10’’ of water

Intake cyl 1 cyl 2 cyl 3 cyl 4 total

None 81.10 81.10 81.10 81.10 324.40

Trueleo 78.90 78.80 78.80 78.80 315.30

Stock 73.64 73.85 73.95 73.55 294.99

Port/stk 73.85 74.10 74.25 73.75 295.95

PS - I dont see why you care about tvis when this manifold could allieviate your lean probs. Lean problems > TVIS

Zeus

01-07-2004, 09:58 PM

ive added more fuel to the inside cylenders anyway im not too worried about it

MidnightMechanic

01-07-2004, 10:00 PM

Originally posted by GT-Four
ive added more fuel to the inside cylenders anyway im not too worried about it

Well poo on you. hahaha oh I give up.

Lychee

01-08-2004, 12:24 AM

GT-Four any pics of your ride?

Zeus

01-08-2004, 09:32 AM

sure thing :)

http://chickenfu.com/files/woobs/11_8_03_alltrac_meet/08.jpg

and ofcourse there is a whole bunch more on my webpage ;)

Lychee

01-08-2004, 10:42 AM

nice!

i almost got the st165 about a year ago but someone beat me to it :(....they're so hard to come by

Zeus

01-09-2004, 10:27 AM

Thanks dude!

Yeah, they are all pretty rare tho i see lots of them locally for some reason...

Lychee

01-09-2004, 11:59 AM

really?
how many do you know of locally? i've only seen one of your gen, it was like a bluish/green kinda colour. They really interest me though..gonna start reading up on them once i got some spare time :)...nice website btw

Timpo

01-09-2004, 05:21 PM

Lychee

01-10-2004, 01:24 PM

*sigh* im talkin about gt4 man...i see the non gt4 one's around all the time...

JD¹³

01-10-2004, 01:27 PM

Hey WTF your downpipe has bolts now?! :p

Zeus

01-10-2004, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by BNR33
really?
how many do you know of locally? i've only seen one of your gen, it was like a bluish/green kinda colour. They really interest me though..gonna start reading up on them once i got some spare time :)...nice website btw

there is atleast 5 ro 6 in town... actually a guy who just moved to town stopped at work yesterday and he had a red one and these are all of my gen... i know of atleast 4 of the older style around too...

thanks i try to keep my website current even tho its actual design is hugely oldschool... ahhh classic tan...

timpo this thread is "lets JUST talk about 4wd Turbo Celicas".. no one here cares that you saw a fwd na celica at metro... I know your heart is in the right place but please cut back on posting random info

and jason hehe yeah downpipe bolts are good thing... as well as high temp loctite to keep them in there ;)

Timpo

01-10-2004, 06:15 PM

btw nice brakes. :)
(wilwood)

Bagged_Camaro

01-12-2004, 08:41 AM

YES! Zap straps! :D

Zeus

01-14-2004, 01:59 AM

Originally posted by Timpo
btw nice brakes. :)
(wilwood)

They certainly are willwoods timpo... thanks for bringing that to my attention ;)

Victoria SiR

01-14-2004, 08:01 AM

Good god man! you were up until 3am? I still havent caught up on my sleep :( someone kept me up :lol Beware of teh grumpiness! :D

Zeus

06-12-2005, 10:07 PM

back from the dead

just like the car!

Car Chick

06-12-2005, 10:11 PM

good lord
u pulling up all the corpses tonight? :P

Zeus

06-12-2005, 10:12 PM

yes i was going through all my old subscribed threads

i think its about time we brought this thread back though.... cause 4wd turbo celicas rock!

TouringTeg

06-12-2005, 10:18 PM

great to see it on the road.

that open wastegate sounds mean!

4doorVIP

06-12-2005, 10:38 PM

nice car, my clear corners on are their way....jdm powa! :D
im gunna drive my 5sfe into the ground then think about 3sgte swap..

Zeus

06-13-2005, 05:51 AM

Originally posted by Touring929
great to see it on the road.

that open wastegate sounds mean!

its even better now that i fixed the belt

before it was squeal vroom braaaaaaaaaagh psh!

lol

Victoria SiR

06-13-2005, 07:43 AM

Wrong forum

Zeus

06-13-2005, 03:18 PM

hey man i just revived it.. dont blame me for it being in the ilsand off topic for over a year

Victoria SiR

06-13-2005, 03:28 PM

Not blaming shit...

Just made an observation and moved it...

panties

Zeus

06-13-2005, 03:33 PM

i love you

Victoria SiR

06-14-2005, 07:25 AM

Originally posted by GT-Four
i love you :ratedb:

rental_metard

06-14-2005, 07:39 AM

whore

MidnightMechanic

06-14-2005, 10:06 AM

I *heart* Carlos Sainz

http://www.tte.de/images/st165-2.jpg

Zeus

06-15-2005, 03:16 PM

i heart pat chinshue

http://www.mr2oc.com/na2005/pictures/images/P6111336.jpg

apprently he was having some ignition problems at this meet so he was only able to run 11.2-10.9's at over 130 mph cause he was shifting at 6500 rather than 9000

man that guy lives a rough life i bet

*edit* mmm teh red Ex

4doorVIP

06-17-2005, 08:46 PM

random pics
http://members.shaw.ca/scotto250/0.jpg
http://members.shaw.ca/scotto250/Firefox%20Wallpaper.bmp
and 5SFTE http://members.shaw.ca/scotto250/EngneCompartment-Dec2002a.jpg

Zeus

06-17-2005, 11:53 PM

ha the second pic is dan and the last pic is chris... no idea who the first guy is... never seen that car before

Corey Darling

11-07-2008, 10:36 PM

Corey Darling

11-12-2008, 05:31 PM

immorality

11-12-2008, 09:08 PM

Car's looking good Corey. I'm finishing up the install of a KO Racing downpipe into Carmen's Alltrac tomorrow.

Corey Darling

11-12-2008, 10:16 PM

immorality

11-12-2008, 10:28 PM

It's going! I'm almost done. It's in and running, I just want to go back and clean off the end of the stock exhaust because it's npt seating into the KO pipe, and put a gasket in as well.

I think that if there is rust on your KO pipe it's safe to say that the ceramic coating is gone. I know exactly what you are talking about because I have my old one here and it's the same way. There not much you can do unless you build some kind of skid plate to protect it from rocks, etc.