CBR 600RR vs R6 [Archive] - REVscene Automotive Forum

MotoMan

06-02-2005, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by womango
get ready to get flamed I won't flame you dude. First of all, almost all of the modern 600 CC bikes are relatively the same. When it comes down to the statistics due to performance, suspension, torque, acceleration almost all of the 600 CC bikes are equal. What it really comes down to is looks, what feels comfortable for you and little itty bits. For instance, the R6 has 2nd gear problems. It is a known fact and it can be fixed. In the GSX-R the cam chain tensor( I think ) often goes bad and you have to get a manual one. I havn't heard anything about the Honda's but i'm sure their is something. I would suggest that you take out all of them for a test ride, find one that fits you right and one that looks just right for you.

silvia

06-03-2005, 04:23 PM

you said youre a student and want to find a cheap riding school....

and then you ask about buying a $8000-11000 bike? go take a real class, buy some real gear, and buy yourself a cheap-student bike like a 91 fzr400.

keepz1

06-03-2005, 04:25 PM

r6 all the way look better and are faster
honda has overheating and battery probs

Irish_R6

06-03-2005, 05:18 PM

Ya i know about the whole buy a cheap bike thing but ive been working since i was 16 and have saved up enough to get my bike im just trying to figure out what others think about them and any person experience

Thanks for all the input.

G

RRxtar

06-03-2005, 06:22 PM

MotoMan - Hondas are notorious for having CCT problems.

One thing to think about is the Honda is abit more uncomfortable. The R6 has a bigger softer seat (relatively).

People saying take em both for a ride and decide good luck. Most dealers wont let a n00b take a brand new bike out on a demo.

Basically pick which one you like the look of more and which one you feel more comfortable sitting on.

neither one is faster or slower, brakes any better or worse, or handles any different, especially for the average person

As for me, Ill take an RR :)

2turboz

06-03-2005, 08:59 PM

I think you should go out and buy yourself so GOOD QUALITY gear and then with whatevers left over go and find a bike. Dont go and buy an expensive bike and cheap out on gear, its YOUR life, take care of it!

silvia

06-06-2005, 08:38 AM

Originally posted by Irish_R6
Ya i know about the whole buy a cheap bike thing but ive been working since i was 16 and have saved up enough to get my bike im just trying to figure out what others think about them and any person experience

then how come youre looking for a CHEAP riding school if youve saved up money? let me guess... tshirt, shorts, sandals, a $50 canadian tire helmet, and a new $10k bike.

MotoMan

06-06-2005, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by silvia
then how come youre looking for a CHEAP riding school if youve saved up money? let me guess... tshirt, shorts, sandals, a $50 canadian tire helmet, and a new $10k bike. Every squids dream!

Irish_R6

06-06-2005, 06:18 PM

I'm only looking for a cheaper one because i dont want to spend excessivly large amounts of money if i dont have too. I'd rather spend less and get the same instruction then spend alot more and be stuck with little money. That's how you save.

Smitty

06-06-2005, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by Irish_R6
I'm only looking for a cheaper one because i dont want to spend excessivly large amounts of money if i dont have too. I'd rather spend less and get the same instruction then spend alot more and be stuck with little money. That's how you save.

If this is your first bike, don't get a brand new one, you're guaranteed to drop your first bike at least once. Look at F2s or F4s if you're interested in Hondas, they're good bikes.

MotoMan

06-07-2005, 05:25 AM

Originally posted by Smitty
If this is your first bike, don't get a brand new one, you're guaranteed to drop your first bike at least once. Look at F2s or F4s if you're interested in Hondas, they're good bikes. Don't even try to tell him, he won't listen... :(

2turboz

06-07-2005, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by Irish_R6
I'm only looking for a cheaper one because i dont want to spend excessivly large amounts of money if i dont have too. I'd rather spend less and get the same instruction then spend alot more and be stuck with little money. That's how you save.

perhaps you should be reminded of the term "you get what you pay for"

Irish_R6

06-07-2005, 03:53 PM

No no no hear me out. Yes i am interested in Honda's and i will continue to consider them as a bike to buy. And i completely understand that you get what you pay for. I was mearly say that i needed some info on a good skool so i could learn to ride. and from what i've read about Action im going there.

Sorry for any confusion.

2turboz

06-07-2005, 11:39 PM

i was reffering to the bike school not the bikes themselves

5LiterHoney

06-08-2005, 05:28 PM

I have an '04 600 RR the only complaint I have is that Im short and it's a bit high and the seat could be a little more padded.... asides from that I'm in love! 2turboz no comments:P '03s are going fairly cheap as well.

Another one I would recomend though, would be a kawi ZX6R they're pretty newb friendly from what I hear.

86supra

06-08-2005, 06:28 PM

there was a recall on my cbr 600RR, it was for the rear brake, something about the line exploding due to corrsion (spelin' is bad, to lazy to look up) but handa sez that's their bad and will fux it. food for thought

Irish_R6

06-08-2005, 06:54 PM

ya that is good to hear. Ill keep that in mind...but has any one heard any thing bad about Yamaha?

MotoMan

06-08-2005, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by Irish_R6
ya that is good to hear. Ill keep that in mind...but has any one heard any thing bad about Yamaha? Read what I posted. The only problem is the funky 2nd gear in the r6's and the other common problems that occur in every sportbike after a couple years of wear and tear. So what are you going to decide to buy?

[azn angel]

06-09-2005, 11:06 AM

the biggest point you're missing is that you're spending too much time reading the fine details between the superbikes out there. You as a rider, wont use 50% of the bikes ability to perform, so why you worrying about these little insignificant things?

here's the order in which i think you should spend your budget.

1) schools! lessons! go to 2/3 schools, take as many riding courses as possible. even look at taking advanced road racing courses. some links to help you out, i hope you consider it.
www.nlsbs.com
www.westcoastsuperbikeschool.com

2) GEAR GEAR...buy the nicest/best gear you can afford.

3) bike. it's your first bike, dont spend a lot of money on it. really, how pimp are you gonna look on a 2005 R6 with massive chicken strips...whilst you drop your bike parking infront of starbucks...it's bound to happen, dont deny the facts. save money this season, get a mid 90's honda/yami/kawi/gixxer, whatever you can find and ride the hell out of it. Sell it, then next year, maybe consider getting a newer bike.

honestly, put me on my 1985 fzr250 and i'll cream you on your shiny new 1000rr...point being, the bike is only as fast as the rider.

back to your original question, i'd prefer a RR, thats why i got it.

Irish_R6

06-09-2005, 07:07 PM

ya thats a good point. It's just hard to find some old skool bike for cheap. Or even to find period.

2turboz

06-09-2005, 11:45 PM

^ www.bcsportbikes.com

there are LOTS of old skool bikes for sale on there right now and at REALLY GOOD PRICES!

sorry man but its bullshit if you say you cant find a good o;ld bike they are everywhere!

R-kOO

06-10-2005, 11:20 PM

but the RR and the r6 are top poser bikess.
if he gets a oldskool bike.. how is he gonna get the girls

2turboz

06-11-2005, 03:08 PM

i guess he's screwed then

perhaps he should worry about picking up chicks when he can actually ride! No chick is gonna go for a guy that cant ride for shit!

Irish_R6

06-13-2005, 05:39 PM

lol true....but i just didn't know where to look...i was lookin in the Buy and Sell but they didn't have alot of real cheapies

2turboz

06-13-2005, 08:54 PM

bike=not cheap no matter what you are going to buy

define "cheap" it might help us to point out bikes if we know a price range, i know there are alot on www.bcsportbikes.com all the time!

RRxtar

06-13-2005, 11:41 PM

one difference between the RR and R6 is the RR burns alot more gas when you get on it.

on one of our last rides we had an 03 RR, 04 RR, 04 R6, 05 R6 with a power commander, my 99 F4, and an F3. both RRs burned around $10 while the rest of us were between $7 and $7.50 at the first gas stop.

silvia

06-14-2005, 08:01 AM

Originally posted by DA_TEG
one difference between the RR and R6 is the RR burns alot more gas when you get on it.

on one of our last rides we had an 03 RR, 04 RR, 04 R6, 05 R6 with a power commander, my 99 F4, and an F3. both RRs burned around $10 while the rest of us were between $7 and $7.50 at the first gas stop.

id bet money that was just the riders fault.

2turboz

06-14-2005, 10:10 AM

http://www.bcsportbikes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=49041

first page 89 cbr for $2500

down_hill_dog

06-17-2005, 07:39 AM

when your spending that little on gas it really should'nt matter if your spending $7 or $10

Buy all your gear first... THEN go to school and learn properly... THEN with whatever you have left, buy a bike.

a late 90's gixxer CBR R6 or even a ninja will be more than enough bike if your just learning.

We have a squid here in town that bought a brand new 04, R6. and could'nt afford gear.. he rips around wearing an old shitty second hand helmet, 1980's leather jacket and gloves. sporting jeans and skate shoes. he looks like a fucking loser riding a new bike.

RRxtar

06-17-2005, 12:19 PM

Originally posted by silvia
id bet money that was just the riders fault.
it happens nearly every ride, even with more RRs and more R6s the RRs always get significantly worse gas milange than everyone else

Gh0stRider

07-07-2005, 05:23 PM

go wif da yammy R6 !

BurnSomeCds

01-26-2007, 01:12 PM

Azn Angel..totally agree with your thoughts of advice. Altho do rem, you and I know these 'cuz we've done the rookie thing. Altho I didn't have good ppl like you giving me these advices when I first started, but I think I would've had to experience it before I know exactly what ur talking about.
Gear is first for'semost important. I crashed at 150km, when my front wheel didn't come down str8 from a wheely, and I regret nothing buying a shoei RF1000 for like $900. Only thing keeping here, (and possibly some supernatural force) to chat in this forum. Irish...he is right, U will drop the bike FOSHO!!! And you will do it when there are many ppl around seeing it! I've had both bikes...both '03.

my views - CBR600RR - heavier feel, steadier control, looks great, seat is hard as crap, trying to do a wheely is fuking even harder. (race designed so to keep u on the pavement.)
YamahaR6 - Easy as fuk to do a wheely, lighter steering (front wheel is thinner...check stats), seat is oh so cushiony nice, no gas level gauge, if it's blue...u must be a vietnamese (ahah).
Good luck riding!

RRxtar

01-30-2007, 11:02 PM

bringin it back from the dead eh?

both the RR and the R6 are all new bikes from when this post was created.

Warp9Racing

02-01-2007, 06:51 PM

depends on what yr r6 your comparing and to what rr....never the less i say YAMAHA!

paul_steph

02-03-2007, 05:24 PM

yamaha all the way...ive had a honda 600 f4, and now i have a 2006 R6, i love the bike, my buddie has a 2006 cbr 600rr and i took it for a little ride and i wasnt impressed with the aceleration, and if u want a new bike buy one there way better. dont someone talk u into a shitty old bike thats gay lol, and for a school there all pretty much the same some people on here take things way to far, if u pas u pass u dont u dont so try again and all u need is a decent jacket u can get one at around 200 even cheeper if u get a used one, helmet icon makes some good cheep ones and if u get a new bike chancers are u can get one thrown in any ways thats all i have to say...........so many haters lol

willyb

02-03-2007, 05:49 PM

Go for the honda... Its easier to ride...

Spartacus

02-04-2007, 05:06 PM

WHAT ABOUT GIXXERS?!!?!??! Its so damn sexy. Are there any known problems that comes with it?

Luce

02-13-2007, 12:09 AM

I bought a 600 (05 RR) as my first bike, went through my first full season without dropping it once...as well, you could easily be in your third season with a nicer bike, rush a parking job or pulling out and drop your bike...although I agree that it is more likely to occur in your first season!

what I would urge you is to NOT GO CHEAP on lessons, I attended pacific and it was great ($600 + tax from what I recall).

I would argue that most ppl who purchase bikes want to look good amongst other reasons...anyone who sais otherwise is not being honest, so in that respect it is hard to try to convince someone to buy a used/old 250 or whatever...it was for me anyways...+ I'm not big on buying and selling to only re-buy what I originally wanted.

The key is to ride safe, not jump lanes, not ride in the bike lane or cut between cars, use what you learn such as lane position and defensive riding, not try the sea to sky following your first month, and practicing everyday, ride within ur means and so on...

check out bcsporbikes.com under the new riders forum for helpful tips.

For practice I recommend taking W. 4th to the UBC highway starting in May and back to experiment with comfort in relation to speed in your first few weeks, not much traffic as school is out except for summer classes, and nice long and open roads with little or no traffic (that is if you live on the W. side).

GSX-Rs are sexy, my buddy and I swap once in a while!!!

la.reina

02-13-2007, 06:12 PM

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned www.islandriders.ca yet. It's a very local community of most riders on the island, some from Vancouver, and so on. Once I joined, I almost forgot about revscene completely.

Anyway, what azn angel said couldn't be more true. It goes like this: gear, lessons, bike. I got fairly decent gear, good lessons (which I passed with almost flying colours) and an average conditioned Ninja 250, which I crashed my first day riding. You'll be glad you didn't go all-out on your first bike when you have a few tips and spills.

IceyHot

04-09-2007, 12:36 AM

If you do some research you'll know that the 2007 600RR has been redesigned and I personally think it's the better bike between the two.

impactX

04-09-2007, 03:28 PM

If you look at the date, you'd realize that Irish_R6 was not a fortune teller two years ago.

IceyHot

04-17-2007, 02:17 PM

Originally posted by impactX
If you look at the date, you'd realize that Irish_R6 was not a fortune teller two years ago.

Fortune telling pwns.

Paparossi

05-03-2007, 09:32 PM

The new sport rider mag has a pretty good 600 shootout if you want to see just how good the RR really is. Seems like every magazine and internet article i've read lately puts the Honda on a pedestal for street ridability as well.

IceyHot

05-04-2007, 08:32 AM

Personally I'd like to see my self master this little 125 and move up to a Gixxer 750 and get the best of both worlds. The 750 is also only $13k and most of the 600's are $12-12.5k.

Ulic Qel-Droma

05-08-2007, 09:14 AM

Originally posted by IceyHot
Personally I'd like to see my self master this little 125 and move up to a Gixxer 750 and get the best of both worlds. The 750 is also only $13k and most of the 600's are $12-12.5k.

hey i thought of the exact same thing yesterday.

125, then move up to the gixxer 750

AWDTALON300

06-01-2007, 11:38 AM

Originally posted by DA_TEG
it happens nearly every ride, even with more RRs and more R6s the RRs always get significantly worse gas milange than everyone else

That can easily be fixed with a power commander.....I got little more power on my CBR1000RR with the power commander and got 1.5L - 2L/100km better mileage.....Hondas just run pig rich from the factory.

RRxtar

06-06-2007, 06:57 PM

Originally posted by AWDTALON300
That can easily be fixed with a power commander.....I got little more power on my CBR1000RR with the power commander and got 1.5L - 2L/100km better mileage.....Hondas just run pig rich from the factory.
indeed. most custom maps lean out all across the board. PC3 is next on my list

MotoGP

08-07-2007, 05:05 PM

Yamaha YZF-R6! ftw =) also because valentino rossi rides with yamaha

NaVBoss

05-10-2008, 10:39 AM

both is good .

s13_drifter

06-28-2009, 09:41 PM

WHEYsted

06-28-2009, 09:55 PM

Why are you asking when your name clearly says R6.

6thGear.

06-29-2009, 05:56 PM

Better yet, why would a 4 yr old thread get bumped?

s13_drifter

06-30-2009, 06:30 AM

Better yet, why would a 4 yr old thread get bumped?
That's how bored I was.. haha!

Guy_LikeWhoa

06-30-2009, 04:20 PM

I wonder if buddy ended up buying a bike.

gsxr7

11-05-2010, 01:34 PM

iv rode both and like them both.600s are all good ,for most riders our skills arent good enough to wring out every drop of what they have to offer.try and ride both if possible b4 u buy.but either is a wicked first bike.

busdriverman

02-27-2011, 11:04 PM

i would say the same thing as most others already have

take a ride on each one if you have your license. i personally (biased) like CBR's because of the undertail exhaust

Midnitez

04-27-2011, 01:37 AM

honda's more forgiving imo... for street i'd choose the honda, for track i'd prolly take the R6...

u gotta hit redline to reach your max HP on the yammy..... which is not that often at all on the roads......

d00zie

04-30-2011, 08:30 AM

both are good for sure! i'd take my RR over any yammy though. All comes down to personal preference. Im not a big guy and can throw the new style 600rr around no problem, its significantly lighter than any other 600 in its class. The 600rr was made for the track, not comfort like the R6......

CharlieH

04-30-2011, 11:06 AM

^ r6s feel more uncomfortable than RRs imo. the seating position feels awkward as hell when you're not tucked in. i find that gixxers are by far the most comfy.

eurochevy

04-30-2011, 11:23 AM

^ r6s feel more uncomfortable than RRs imo. the seating position feels awkward as hell when you're not tucked in. i find that gixxers are by far the most comfy.

^this charlie, but the 6 is nimbler than the rr, rr's are very good for all around every day stuff though if i was just going here to there i'd have an rr or the gixxer for the comfort...its hard for any one thats not a track racer to come to the limit of any of the bikes any way though