[Gh0stRider]

i think its time to replace my sony 2.0 digi cam. saw the first 2 advertised in the FS flyer. im a newbie at photography...but i wanna learn more...not ready to step put to a slr yet...so i thought these would start me off.

any input guyz?


Canon PowerShot S2 IS

Canon PowerShot S1 IS

Sony CyberShot DSCH1

Sony DSC-F717

[Levitron]

The S1/S2 cameras are really nice; but just like with the S60 or similar models, I found that they crammed quite a lot of features into the camera without enough buttons to control them. This meant a LOT of button presses just to get to certain features and sometimes resulted in unintuitive control.

I haven't used the DSC-H1 yet, but seems like an interesting entry from Sony in the IS field. I wouldn't go with Sony....yet....in this area; afterall, it *is* their first product with IS.

F717? I love it :D If I had the money, I'd even keep it. Great lens, great camera overall. Has Nightshot too, so in the case of you wanting to ever get more serious with photography, you can also try your hand at infrared photography as well. Zoom is "by wire", so you never actually have a lens that protrudes when you zoom. Only downside to this camera (as with any other camera that you've listed), is higher noise levels with higher ISO's.

[Harlem2k]

I wouldn't get the Sony H1

lots of people complained about CA from this camera over the net... thought it does looks cool and it has a nice IS feature..


I like Canon cameras :p I'm biased toward them.. so either S1 or S2 are all pretty good IMO ;)

but I have to say, the F717 is a nice camera too. It feels pretty solid and durable compared to the Canon S1/S2, and has nice features too.

just my 2cents :p

[supra123]

hmm for u, i would stick with s1, u dont need a super fancy camera cuz u wont be printing out alot of large format pictures.

dont get sony. i dunno heard a lot of bad stuff with their digicams

[Levitron]

F717 is the way to go if you want a nice lens.

A nice lens is much more important than IS, if you know how to take pictures.

[MikesJo]

S2 IS :).

[4G63 BT]

S2 IS = best overall ultrazoom camera
FZ-20 = Camera with best ultrazoom lens (stablized 12X F2.8 all the way)

[MikesJo]

Good point.

[Gh0stRider]

ok, now im trying to decide between the S1 and S2.

but now that u mention the fz-20...argh..

[Levitron]

Anyone got samples from the FZ-20? I know about two years ago I would've stayed far far away from Panasonics, but now that they've been in the market for a few years, they should be better and more experienced.

[MikesJo]

S2 or FZ-20 I think should be your choices :).

[4G63 BT]

Originally posted by Levitron
Anyone got samples from the FZ-20? I know about two years ago I would've stayed far far away from Panasonics, but now that they've been in the market for a few years, they should be better and more experienced.

There are plenty reviews of FZ-20 (Steve's Digicam, DP Review, DC Resource, etc) and they rank the FZ-20 very very highly.

S2 IS is relatively new and DC Resource rank it as the best overall and top choice together with FZ-20.

S2 IS is better overall features (flip,rotate LCD, awesome Movie mode, USM motor focusing etc.) But FZ-20 still has the mother of all consumer digicam zoom lens, the Leica stabilized 12X zoom constant F-2.8. :D

Its a tough choice.

[Gh0stRider]

looks like futureshop dosen't carry the FZ-20 :(
anyone know where they carry it...

i was gonna go in and compare the 2 in person, but can't do that now. hmmm

[4G63 BT]

I used to see A&B sound carry FZ-10

[txtadik]

i'm thinking about the S2 IS... is it worth driving down to the states to buy? hmmmmm

[4G63 BT]

S2 IS is about $580CAD right now in Taipei. FZ-20 is also around that much.

[Gh0stRider]

fz-20 at ab sound is like 800 before rebate. eek !

[[azn angel]]

they're all crap crap CRAP!

Go Mamiya, or go home.

[Gh0stRider]

i'll go with the S2 for now, if i dont like it. i'll just return in after the weekend.

[4G63 BT]

Or wait for the FZ-30. It should come out in July

[johny]

I need a new camera. looking to spend $300-350 or so

I don't need anything super great. right now I have an old 0.8mp (yes that's right! :lol) camera that shoots 1024 pics. the pics are fine for me but the camera is just way to big to carry around.

so my biggest thing is size and weight, not picture quality (but not crap of course). lots of zoom would be nice too.

also be nice to use normal batterys (AA etc). not special ones. so if I'm alway for a week with no power to charge (camping) I can carry spares.

any suggestions for brand / models would be great.

[endless402]

maybe u should give a price range

[dub.dub]

something simple but worth your money.. you could consider the sony cyber-shot dsc-s90 which has 4mp and 3x optical zoom like most basic point-&-shoot cameras.

not bulky and for $350 you can get it with rechargable NiMH batteries 2100mah (i think they were) with a charger as well.

it's just missing some other features such as aperature or shutter speed priority if you care about that at all.

[smk]

I've been looking at the Canon Powershot A95.. anyone got input on this? A bit over your price ranger, but it's $449.99 at Futureshop, and $499.99 @ Staples. You can do the price guarantee at Staples which is gonna be less than Futureshop.

[MikesJo]

Does staples have the "Product Service Plan" or something similar?

[smk]

^ Extended warranty?

[Levitron]

Merged with other "what camera should buy" threads.

[JN06300T]

my mom came home with a Sony Cyber-Shot DSCM1 5.0MP Digital Camera that cost $12xx.xx after taxes, 512mb card and a case for it. i told her the camera is way too much for her, not only price wise, but also feature wise. i ofcourse can use it, but then again she wont be able to enjoy it (technology illiterate). she basically bought wat the salesman offered her.

so i came with her to return it and i started to look around. basically i want to get her something that is not TOO complicated but somethign that i will also be able to use. im no pro, but i like taking pictures. so a good point and shoot camera with good pixels and some extra features would be nice.

now the few cameras that i took interest in were the:

- cannon a520
- cannon powershot sd300
- cannon a95
- cannon powershot sd400
- panasonic dmclz2 limux

i would prefer the pixels to be 4 or higher, with a few extra features. but id otn know wat features are good. i wouldnt want to spend over 700 for a point and shoot, so between 4 - 700 is my limit. the camera will mainly be used for family pictures.

wat do u guys suggest i pick up? personal preference? i know its MY choice, but i would like to know some pros and cons. also, if u have a different camera u can suggest for me to look at, it would be greatly appreciated. the cameras i was lookign at were all from future shop. where do u suggest i buy ?

thanx for all the future info.

[604Racing604]

SD300/SD400 are good camers.

[Levitron]

Merging with the other "I want a new camera" thread.

[Doc]

Originally posted by Levitron
Merging with the other "I want a new camera" thread.

You rule.

SPank you berry muchie.

~S

[JN06300T]

so, any input?

[dub.dub]

i would go for either the canon a520 or a95 (a95 uses 4 AA batts instead of 2 though and 3x zoom instead of 4x compared to a520)

the sd300 and sd400 are compact, light, and fast with the digic ii processor but lacks functions i feel

[Levitron]

Originally posted by Salar
You rule.

SPank you berry muchie.

~S Now give me your 20D :P

[Acuracura]

Originally posted by 9!.t3g
my mom came home with a Sony Cyber-Shot DSCM1 5.0MP Digital Camera that cost $12xx.xx after taxes, 512mb card and a case for it. i told her the camera is way too much for her, not only price wise, but also feature wise. i ofcourse can use it, but then again she wont be able to enjoy it (technology illiterate). she basically bought wat the salesman offered her.

so i came with her to return it and i started to look around. basically i want to get her something that is not TOO complicated but somethign that i will also be able to use. im no pro, but i like taking pictures. so a good point and shoot camera with good pixels and some extra features would be nice.

now the few cameras that i took interest in were the:

- cannon a520
- cannon powershot sd300
- cannon a95
- cannon powershot sd400
- panasonic dmclz2 limux

i would prefer the pixels to be 4 or higher, with a few extra features. but id otn know wat features are good. i wouldnt want to spend over 700 for a point and shoot, so between 4 - 700 is my limit. the camera will mainly be used for family pictures.

wat do u guys suggest i pick up? personal preference? i know its MY choice, but i would like to know some pros and cons. also, if u have a different camera u can suggest for me to look at, it would be greatly appreciated. the cameras i was lookign at were all from future shop. where do u suggest i buy ?

thanx for all the future info.

the one i would recommend for your purposes is the Panasonic LZ2. it's not as compact as the SD300, but it is not as chunky as the A95. it uses only 2AA's and has plenty of modes, some of which allow you to manipulate settings such as ISO sensitivity and Aperature. This camera, like most other newer Panasonics, has an Image stabalizer so your pictures will be less blurry. The best part of this camera is the 6x Optical zoom. Thats about twice as much as any other compact camera.

I've also noticed the lag time between pictures is very minimal, probably due to the fast image processor and 66x SD card used. I was testing it out at work and really like the camera a lot. Best in its class, which is compact point and shoot.

[Levitron]

Originally posted by 9!.t3g
my mom came home with a Sony Cyber-Shot DSCM1 5.0MP Digital Camera that cost $12xx.xx after taxes, 512mb card and a case for it. i told her the camera is way too much for her, not only price wise, but also feature wise. i ofcourse can use it, but then again she wont be able to enjoy it (technology illiterate). she basically bought wat the salesman offered her.

so i came with her to return it and i started to look around. basically i want to get her something that is not TOO complicated but somethign that i will also be able to use. im no pro, but i like taking pictures. so a good point and shoot camera with good pixels and some extra features would be nice.

now the few cameras that i took interest in were the:

- cannon a520
- cannon powershot sd300
- cannon a95
- cannon powershot sd400
- panasonic dmclz2 limux

i would prefer the pixels to be 4 or higher, with a few extra features. but id otn know wat features are good. i wouldnt want to spend over 700 for a point and shoot, so between 4 - 700 is my limit. the camera will mainly be used for family pictures.

wat do u guys suggest i pick up? personal preference? i know its MY choice, but i would like to know some pros and cons. also, if u have a different camera u can suggest for me to look at, it would be greatly appreciated. the cameras i was lookign at were all from future shop. where do u suggest i buy ?

thanx for all the future info.

If you're into the family pictures, go Canon. Canons deal great with low-light and also compensate well with their flashes (meaning you don't get those ugly, glossy, pasty white faces covered in oil if you do a shot with a flash). This is me, speaking from personal experience.

I'd pick the A520....gives you a bit of flexibility in terms of functions; however if you want a camera for style, then SD300/400 are the ones to go for.

[SuperSlowSS]

350d vs d50

[Acuracura]

Originally posted by Levitron
If you're into the family pictures, go Canon. Canons deal great with low-light and also compensate well with their flashes (meaning you don't get those ugly, glossy, pasty white faces covered in oil if you do a shot with a flash). This is me, speaking from personal experience.

I'd pick the A520....gives you a bit of flexibility in terms of functions; however if you want a camera for style, then SD300/400 are the ones to go for.

very good point about low light shots. i just realized i was only using the camera in the store, mall area, and outside the mall during the day time. the only thing the LZ2 is missing is LED's for focussing aids in low light conditions.

i absolutely love my 3 year old canon s300. it takes better pics than most new point and shoot cameras. i like my friends A95, but if i had to replace it i would still go with the LZ2 because of the 6x optical and IS.

[MikesJo]

If the LCD goes bust on you there's no view finder.

[Levitron]

Originally posted by SuperSlowSS
350d vs d50

Wanna list more of your expectations from the camera first?

Then we can have somethign to work with.

...because if you want, you can always just compare the specs at dpreview:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_eos350d%2Cnikon_d50&show=all

[SuperSlowSS]

Originally posted by Levitron
Wanna list more of your expectations from the camera first?

Then we can have somethign to work with.

...because if you want, you can always just compare the specs at dpreview:
http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/compare_post.asp?method=sidebyside&cameras=canon_eos350d%2Cnikon_d50&show=all

Got to be fast. I want something that can replace my old SLR(minolta). I was pretty much set on 350d until I tried a d50. The d50 fits my hand better, also cheaper. But I don't want to save money now just to upgrade later because it isn't good enough for something I want to do in the future. You know.. room to grow. :)

Since I am starting fresh... I want to go with the company that has the bigger/cheaper lens market.

[unit]

hey guys im about to purchase the d50 but i cant help to notice that the d70 is pretty close in price.

i wanted the d50 because:
1) its a new camera
2) it produces little noise even at ISO1600
3) its slightly smaller
4) slightly bigger lcd (2.0 vs 1.8)

but after reading some forums that discuss the d50 it seems that people miss from the d70:
1) dof preview
2) 2 dials instead of one
3) CF media (this one not a huge deal)
4) 3.0fps vs 2.5fps continuous shooting

actually i heard from one review site that in actual tests the d70 did 2.9fps and the d50 only managed 2.1fps. quite a big difference.

regardless of which camera i buy i'll be making sure it comes with the 18-70mm lens. in other words if its the d50 i'll be buying the body only and if its the d70 i'll get it with the kit lens. after all is said and done the d70 will be rougly 100 more expensive i think.

given all of the above which would you guys prefer? im pretty amateur and have never used an SLR but they dont intimidate me.

[604Racing604]

Chris,

Get the D70s if you choose to go Nikon.

The Nikon D50 is a lot less of a camera. The lense mount is also plastic. The kit lense that comes with the D50 is cheap and if you were to buy the D70s kit lens separately it would be very $$$$.

CF is good as the media is cheap.

[Levitron]

Merging with new camera thread.

[unit]

tnx and sorry for not posting here lev.

gary,

well if i were to buy the d70 i probably wouldnt buy the d70s since most of the features can be had in a firmware hack with the d70. i'd essentially be paying 2-300 extra for a 2.0lcd vs a 1.8lcd

if your opinion still stands when comparing the d70 (non s) vs the d50 then maybe i should get the d70 after all...

[604Racing604]

They discontinued the D70 and replaced it with the D70s. There are some hardware changes between the two models. I'm not sure how much more firmware upgrades you can get on the D70 if the D70s has new feature upgrades.

[endless402]

Originally posted by 604Racing604
Chris,

Get the D70s if you choose to go Nikon.

The Nikon D50 is a lot less of a camera. The lense mount is also plastic. The kit lense that comes with the D50 is cheap and if you were to buy the D70s kit lens separately it would be very $$$$.

CF is good as the media is cheap.

Originally posted by 604Racing604
They discontinued the D70 and replaced it with the D70s. There are some hardware changes between the two models. I'm not sure how much more firmware upgrades you can get on the D70 if the D70s has new feature upgrades.


D50 is plastic mount? where did u get that info from?
i see metal mount


D70 firmware upgrade has most, if not all of the same features d70s has in terms of internals

hardware wise, d70s has wider flash, bigger LCD

but AF performance is the same

go with D50 if u dont have any media yet. the extra 400-500 u save from D70s can go towards a nice zoom lens

shot to shot should be 2.5fps using a high speed card

[77civic1200]

Well it looks like I'm suposed to continue my thread in here, so here goes..

I went out last weekend to buy a camera, I talked to the guys at broadway camera and at kerrisdale camera and we came to the conclusion that I didn't really need to spend $900+ on a new camera and that a $500 dollar budget would be fine. I ended up coming home with an Olympus C-765, and while it does everything they said it would do, I'm not overly happy with it. It takes very nice pictures, good colour, good clarity, but it does it all VERY slowly, and that bugs the hell out of me. It takes a while to start up, which is not to big of a deal, but it also takes a while to focus, and a while to take the shot, then it takes like 5 seconds to save and get ready for the next shot, and thats much to slow. There were a few other things as well, no IS, lens feels loose, you have to turn it off to shange to some of the modes ect. So really it comes down to me not being happy about the purchase, and if I'm going to spend any money, I want to be happy about it. I have 14 days to take it back for an exchange, but I'm not sure if they are gonna take back the memory card as I had to cut the package to open it =(

Now I'm basically going to buy the Canon S2-IS or the Panasonic DMC-FZ5, I'll ask the guy what he thinks before I decide (he was very helpful by the way) but I was curious what you guys would choose between those two?

[Bonjour43MA]

I'm getting a Fuji S5100, older model but very good choice for an entry-level, ultrazoom, SLR-style camera.

http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/fuji/finepix_s5100-review/

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/fujifilms5100/

I think this is an exellent choice for a pre-SLR DigiCam and at a very good price, too! It doesn't have IS but that's fine because you won't learn to rely on it too much when you move on to SLRs in the future.

[unit]

43ma?
is omid on rs?

[yzfr1604]

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[yzfr1604]

z

[MikesJo]

The W5 is a very fast camera in terms of shutter lag.

77civic, the two cameras you're debating between is a tough :). They're both great cameras. The panasonic has the constant 2.8 aperture which is very good.

[yzfr1604]

z

[Levitron]

Originally posted by yzfr1604
"The W5 is a very fast camera in terms of shutter lag. "

when I was using it on Saturday it felt slow.. almost 1 second. I wen't home to use my powershot S50, almost instant

Dude, the W5 and the S50 are TOTALLY different cameras. A more apt comparison would probably be S50/60 with a V1 or even V3.

[yzfr1604]

z

[Acuracura]

Originally posted by 77civic1200
Now I'm basically going to buy the Canon S2-IS or the Panasonic DMC-FZ5, I'll ask the guy what he thinks before I decide (he was very helpful by the way) but I was curious what you guys would choose between those two?

Originally posted by MikesJo
77civic, the two cameras you're debating between is a tough :). They're both great cameras. The panasonic has the constant 2.8 aperture which is very good.

i'm pretty sure only the fz-20 maintains a 2.8 throughout the zoom spectrum. the fz-4 and fz-5's aperature is F2.8 wide and 3.3 tele.

[endless402]

Originally posted by 77civic1200
Well it looks like I'm suposed to continue my thread in here, so here goes..

I went out last weekend to buy a camera, I talked to the guys at broadway camera and at kerrisdale camera and we came to the conclusion that I didn't really need to spend $900+ on a new camera and that a $500 dollar budget would be fine. I ended up coming home with an Olympus C-765, and while it does everything they said it would do, I'm not overly happy with it. It takes very nice pictures, good colour, good clarity, but it does it all VERY slowly, and that bugs the hell out of me. It takes a while to start up, which is not to big of a deal, but it also takes a while to focus, and a while to take the shot, then it takes like 5 seconds to save and get ready for the next shot, and thats much to slow. There were a few other things as well, no IS, lens feels loose, you have to turn it off to shange to some of the modes ect. So really it comes down to me not being happy about the purchase, and if I'm going to spend any money, I want to be happy about it. I have 14 days to take it back for an exchange, but I'm not sure if they are gonna take back the memory card as I had to cut the package to open it =(

Now I'm basically going to buy the Canon S2-IS or the Panasonic DMC-FZ5, I'll ask the guy what he thinks before I decide (he was very helpful by the way) but I was curious what you guys would choose between those two?

selling my coolpix 8700 if ure interested

[MikesJo]

The shutter lag on the W7 was faster than the S70 when I was using them.

[77civic1200]

Endless402 - ya I saw that, and If you had posted it about a week ago I probably would have considered it, but there is an exchange only policy on the one I bought, so I'm pretty much stuck getting a new one from them. I don't really mind that, they were good people, I just wish he could have warned me about how slow this camera was

[Bonjour43MA]

Originally posted by yzfr1604
Most people will never know what a good point and shoot camera is until they have used the best. Most people will never know what to look for in a camera until they have used a digital SLR. Honestly when looking for a point a shoot digital camera, I can't stress enough how not to buy things like Olympus, Fujifilm, Pentax, Casio. If you have ever used a Canon for more then a day and you go back to those you will understand. Menus are clunky, white balances are off.

Just to show that I am not talking out of my arse. My first digital camera was in 2002, Canon Powershot A40 2 mega pixle and my cousin bought a Olympus something 2 mega pixle too. At the time I din't know any better. Now when I look back at them, the Canon is far superior. It had functions like manual and varable apature.... things unheard of at the time. The olmpus had one mode. Also the optics were far superior in picture quality.

Here is a more recent example, my friend just bought a W5, yeah the camera looks good and powerful on paper to the the average jo... 5 mega pixle and 3x optical from Caral Zeiss. Big lush 2.5 LCD screen. When I used it for 5 min's I already know it's sub par then my 2 year old Canon Powershot S50. The LCD screen has lag time (which means it blurs when move around) shot to shot time is bad from half dipression of the shutter to actual picture being taken. Optics are marginal to Canon optics even though it's Caral Zeiss....

I know I don't make a stong argument.... and I am speaking very broadly and I am sure there are exceptions or two. "Panasonic DMC-FZ5" actually looks really good on paper but you never know till you use it.

BTW: Ive owned a Powershot A40, Powershot S50, Powershot Pro1, E0S 20D....

Ive used extensivley Olympus 2 mega pixle, Powershot G5, Pentax, Fujifilms, minoltas and several Sony cameras (all my friends)

and I make my opinion based on that and all the stuff I read of the web.




my first camera was the PowerShot A40, too! I think I bought it in 2002 for 499 bucks. Yeah it was expensive back then even for a 2MP but with all the manual settings it was worth the price. The camera still functions extremely well even today, and all those manual features sure come in handy as I've learned a bit more about photography and can acutally manipulate my photos by playing with the settings. Great, great camera for its time.

That being said, I disagree with what you have said about other point-and-shoot camera makers. Sure, Canon's the best, but if you look at the newer cameras these days, the competition sure has caught on. Most camera makers these days offer models with more features and have similar picture quality as the Canons, but at a much reasonable price. So to say that ONLY Canon can make good point-and-shoot cameras sounds totally biased, it may be true a few years ago, but not in today's market.

I still like Canon's stuff over other makers, but if the competition can offer me something with similar quality, identical features, or *gasp* better design, but at a lower price range... then I don't see why we shouldn't consider getting something else OTHER than Canon.

Just my 2-cents :-)

[MikesJo]

Although I love Canons, I have to say that some of the Sony cams are very nice and give the canons a run for their money. The T7 is utter garbage though. The SD line of Canon cameras are unbeatable imo. The Lumix line of small cameras arn't that great when you compare them feature wise.

[endless402]

i dunnoooo but the FX7 is cool cuz it comes in so many colours
and has IS which is needed on such a small cam

too bad its so expensive in canada

and cuz they have cooler commercials :p

canon commercials in canada are so crappy

[HDN]

What are some of your thoughts on this camera? What cameras would u compare it to (in the same price range of course) and in it's price range what do you think is my best choice.

I'm looking to spend no more than 500 after taxes. Just need a good point and shoot camera, small but not too small, best image quality etc. etc. suggestions and help is appreciated!

[Levitron]

Originally posted by HDN
What are some of your thoughts on this camera? What cameras would u compare it to (in the same price range of course) and in it's price range what do you think is my best choice.

I'm looking to spend no more than 500 after taxes. Just need a good point and shoot camera, small but not too small, best image quality etc. etc. suggestions and help is appreciated!

Merged with "new camera" thread.

[yzfr1604]

z

[baldy]

okay so i'm thinking about finally diving into the digital slr world, film is getting expensive...

I'm thinking about the Nikon D70S, but i'm not sure if buying the kit is worth it.

I've seen a lot of you praising that Tamron lens... the 28-70 (?) f2.8 ABCDEFG model (I know that's not it's actual name, but they've thrown in so many acronyms, why not). Would that be a good lens to use as my primary walkaround?

Any other suggestions for lenses? I'll still be using my film camera for some studio work and stuff, but I'd like to be able to use this for A) everyday stuff, B) portraits, C) some studio stuff, D) landscapes, etc... I know one lens won't cut it for all those things, i'm coming from a set up where i have 6 different lenses... but i'm thinking right now about going with a 28-70 type lens, and maybe a 50mm/1.8

thoughts? suggestions?

sadly my film setup is all minolta manual focus, which rocks as gear goes, all very good quality, but its completely not usable beyond that platform... so i'm starting from scratch here.

[77civic1200]

Just to let you know the conclussion, I managed to return the olympus without any problems and I am now the proud new owner of a Canon S2-is yay me! now as soon as I figure out how to use the spiffy new toy, I'll start a photo thread so you guys can tell me I suck =) I'm looking forward to that part

[MikesJo]

Baldy why not the rebel xt? I like canon's lens lineup better and imo I think the Rebet xt is better than the D70S. Low light capability is better (less noise) and auto focus is faster.

[endless402]

Originally posted by MikesJo
Baldy why not the rebel xt? I like canon's lens lineup better and imo I think the Rebet xt is better than the D70S. Low light capability is better (less noise) and auto focus is faster.


yes but it feels like a toy

[GFunk]

KONICA MINOLTA, DIMAGE E500, 5.0 PIXELS $120

or

CANON A510, 3.2 MEGA PIXELS, $120

It's something for a friend of mine, she told me to ask someone for some quick advice so i thought where better than here. An answer asap would be awesome as she's buying one of these within a day or two. Thanks in advance.

[Levitron]

A510.

Moving to "new camera thread".

[GFunk]

Originally posted by Levitron
A510.

Moving to "new camera thread". whoops, sorry I somehow missed this thread which was only a couple posts down.

[Ducdesmo]

^ Wondering the same thing myself. All the camera stores I've called said they cant get the D70 anymore, only the S.

[baldy]

curious why you would want a d70 instead of a d70s? is it just cuz the d70 will be cheaper now? or what

[endless402]

london drugs still caries D70
but not at that big of a discount
999 for body
1449 for kit

and its demo model


not worth it cuz D70s kit is 1499

[endless402]

well if you buy cameras in the USA you do not get warranty in Canada


do a group buy on the d70s :p

[Ducdesmo]

OK count me in the for group buy on the D70S! Im interested in the body only tho.

And i agree...the updated firmware and the .2" larger LCD is not worth $150 more. Also an optional cable release can be purchased for the S. But i rather buy a 1GB memory card for $150 and skip all these peanut features.

[HDN]

Ok what do u guys think?

Sony DSC-T7

or

Canon SD400?

My requirements:
-slim/compact size
-best image quality (from the smallest package possible)
-some manual features (white balance, exposure, iso, etc.)

I love the looks of the DSC-T7 but I also love the looks/size of the SD400. With prices out of the equation which is the better camera in terms of image quality?

[dub.dub]

You can ask almost anyone on the Photo forum here and they will tell you the Canon SD400 especially since it has the Digic II processor as well.

The image quality from the Sony T7... let's just say, it isn't great. The only thing it offers, as a lot of people like and wouldn't mind sacrificing other qualities, is its slimness and 2.5" LCD screen.

Canon is your pick. :) And cheaper memory card as well!

[stuff99]

Originally posted by unit03


still kind of want a 350D too but the kit lens is too cheap compared to the d50's, and the next logical lens up (17-85mm) is way to expensive ($799) for a newb like me.


buy the 350d without the kit lens and buy the kit lens here:
http://www.revscene.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=301343

or buy the camera and the kit lense here:
http://www.revscene.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=307667

[shoxx]

sd400 - 5 mp OR sd500 - 7.1 mp anyone???

[Pochacho]

Originally posted by spiritofevil99
buy the 350d without the kit lens and buy the kit lens here:
http://www.revscene.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=301343

or buy the camera and the kit lense here:
http://www.revscene.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=307667

XT with kit lense SOLD.

thank you ;)

[Levitron]

Originally posted by Hehe
Hello everyone

I just saved up enough for my DSLR and was wondering which of these 2 options is better?

I read several reviews online and like the Nikon color production better. However, in the long run, will I be better off with Canon or Nikon when it comes to lens selections? (I like to take landscape with random chance of portrait taking)

Also, I am planning to ask my friend to buy me the camera in HK. Where should he go for a reputable seller?

Thnks for any inputs~)

[Levitron]

Originally posted by shoxx
sd400 - 5 mp OR sd500 - 7.1 mp anyone???
Originally posted by HDN
Ok what do u guys think?

Sony DSC-T7

or

Canon SD400?

My requirements:
-slim/compact size
-best image quality (from the smallest package possible)
-some manual features (white balance, exposure, iso, etc.)

I love the looks of the DSC-T7 but I also love the looks/size of the SD400. With prices out of the equation which is the better camera in terms of image quality?


SD400 will be plenty for everyday shooting. That high of a pixel rating doesn't mean much once you're looking at digital pictures on a computer only.

[MikesJo]

SD400 is slimmer too.

[unit]

re: d50 vs canon 350d

if you're stuck on deciding which one of them is better on paper, go to the camera store and play w/ them. for me the d50 was the clear choice over the 350d. the 350d felt like a toy in my hands and i only have average sized hands! it was a size or two too small and didnt feel as solid as even the 300d.

[endless402]

Originally posted by unit03
re: d50 vs canon 350d

if you're stuck on deciding which one of them is better on paper, go to the camera store and play w/ them. for me the d50 was the clear choice over the 350d. the 350d felt like a toy in my hands and i only have average sized hands! it was a size or two too small and didnt feel as solid as even the 300d.

dont forget to consider the d70s

group buy :p

[Pochacho]

Yeah, D70 is definitely a good choice too. I played with my friend's D70 and I like it. (too bad I bought canon already).

between D70 and Xt, I would pick D70.
between D70 and 20D.... uh.... i don't know....

[endless402]

20D > D70 of course, different class

now if only london drugs accept my pricematch of interpro photo's D70S kit for $1480

[Levitron]

Yeah, totally different.

If you were to place things in order, probably be something like: 20D>D70s>D70>350D, D50

[Pochacho]

phew... i am glad that i did not pick up the D70....

[endless402]

Originally posted by Levitron
Yeah, totally different.

If you were to place things in order, probably be something like: 20D>D70s>D70>350D, D50

thats like the order of pricing too

[unit]

if you can find one, the d70 is about the same price if not cheaper than the 350d.. w/ a far superior kit lens...

too bad i never found one!

[endless402]

got a d70s kit for 1450 today! yeh!

[Pochacho]

Originally posted by endless402
got a d70s kit for 1450 today! yeh!

gratz~! My friend got that 2 weeks ago. It is a great camera that takes good pictures. I like the 2-inch LCD too.

[Ducdesmo]

^ got mine hooked up for $1200! :D
1 more week...woohoo.

[baldy]

whoa... how did you manage that?

[Ducdesmo]

a buddy got me a great deal directly from Nikon headoffice.

[endless402]

hook everyone up :P

[What_the?]

Between the Panasonic FZ10 and the Sony IS S1, which would you choose?

I'm looking at a budget starter camera to learn to take good pics...

any tips would be greatly appreciated!

[dub.dub]

Sony IS S1?
do u mean canon s1 is or sony h1?

[What_the?]

whoops... canon s1 i mean
:D

[threestyle]

yeah canon s2 IS or sony H1?

[Jomo]

The old 3.2 megapixel digital camera isnt cutting it for me anymore, but I've always been a big fan of photography.

I really dont want to break the bank entirely, what do you guys suggest looking up? I'm not opposed to buying it off ebay, but I'm not entirely sure what it is that I need. I'm kind of a novice to photography, but if I had a nice camera I would spend a LOT more time taking pictures. I really envy the shots I see on here and elsewhere and I ALWAYS end up seeing something and wishing I had a nice digital....

Would you guys suggest a Digital SLR or is SLR worth having? I was thinking something along the lines of a Canon Digital Rebel or a Nikon D50 maybe if I can find one cheap enough... if you guys have any advice more me or know of some other cameras I should look in to it'd be a big help! Thanks a lot!

[endless402]

a dSLR would run u around 700 used for a old drebel to 1000 for a new D50


theyre both great for entry level

but first consider if u really want a dSLR or not.
you lose video recording ability, the use of the screen as a viewfinder and you have to spend money on zoom lenses and filters

if you're not ready to make the big investment, consider getting super zooms or high end prosumer cams like canon S2 IS, Panasonic FZ30

The review of the panasonic should be posted on friday on dcresource. i'm predicting it will be the best prosumer cam of the year with its mechanical super zoom, fast lens, any angle LCD screen, and image stabilization

take a look at it

http://www2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/vModelDetail?storeId=15001&catalogId=13401&itemId=94140&catGroupId=24999&modelNo=DMC-FZ30K&cacheProgram=11002&cachePartner=7000000000000005702

[Levitron]

Originally posted by Jomo
The old 3.2 megapixel digital camera isnt cutting it for me anymore, but I've always been a big fan of photography.

I really dont want to break the bank entirely, what do you guys suggest looking up? I'm not opposed to buying it off ebay, but I'm not entirely sure what it is that I need. I'm kind of a novice to photography, but if I had a nice camera I would spend a LOT more time taking pictures. I really envy the shots I see on here and elsewhere and I ALWAYS end up seeing something and wishing I had a nice digital....

Would you guys suggest a Digital SLR or is SLR worth having? I was thinking something along the lines of a Canon Digital Rebel or a Nikon D50 maybe if I can find one cheap enough... if you guys have any advice more me or know of some other cameras I should look in to it'd be a big help! Thanks a lot!


Merged with "NEW CAMERA" thread.

[endless402]

argh really dissapointed with the FZ30 with its high levels of noise even at iso 80

everything else about it is great, especailly with its smart zoom

[Jomo]

I've kind of narrowed it down to a D300 or a D350 from canon, does anyone here use one that could give some feedback for me? I'm an amateur but I'd really like to make photography more of a priority when it comes to my hobbies.... cheaper than modding my car!

[Levitron]

Originally posted by Jomo
I've kind of narrowed it down to a D300 or a D350 from canon, does anyone here use one that could give some feedback for me? I'm an amateur but I'd really like to make photography more of a priority when it comes to my hobbies.... cheaper than modding my car!
I beg to differ.

A decent lens like a 17-40mm L lens can cost you upwards of $800CAD, easily. And it just gets worse and worse as you progress along this "hobby" :)

[Jomo]

Originally posted by Levitron
I beg to differ.

A decent lens like a 17-40mm L lens can cost you upwards of $800CAD, easily. And it just gets worse and worse as you progress along this "hobby" :)

Rims and tires alone are more than a nice digital slr and a lens, and you get a lot less use out of them!

[Pochacho]

Originally posted by Jomo
Rims and tires alone are more than a nice digital slr and a lens, and you get a lot less use out of them!

hee hee.... u can't really say that....
rims + tires normally around $2000 for 18"?
it can go up to $5000 easily...

camera stuffs...
an ok lens can be $2000 a piece.

So, depends on how u compare them. But, for sure that car stuffs depreciate much more and much faster...

[kumo]

any more info on the d70s group buy? if its still happening count me in!

[endless402]

i think we all bought our own

[gary_gl]

hey guys im interested in photography, and i was wondering what is a good begineers digital slr camera? and how much would a decent used one cost (approx, of course)?

thx in advance.

gg.

[Pochacho]

Canon Rebel Xt $1040 (body only)
Nikon D70s $1150 (body only)

+ lens. price varies...

can buy them as a kit, but the lens is not very good, not too bad either.

[Domani]

used 300D for about 700?

[endless402]

d50 kit for about 950-1000

[Jomo]

I bought a used Canon Rebel 300D and I've got no regrets whatsoever. There's not much the camera can't do that a beginner needs. In a few years I might upgrade, but these camera's are really very capable.

[hamsup]

Hey guys... i am looking for a new point and shoot camera... anyone have any suggestions ?????

azn angel told me to get a SD500... u guys agree???

Any input would be much appreciated.

[SkinnyPupp]

Originally posted by hamsup
Hey guys... i am looking for a new point and shoot camera... anyone have any suggestions ?????

azn angel told me to get a SD500... u guys agree???

Any input would be much appreciated. Depends on what you are looking for. If small size is your main concern, then the SD500 would probably be the best choice.

If you're looking for other things, like image quality, or zoom range, or extended features, there are other choices to consider...

[dub.dub]

or get the Canon SD550 :) bigger screen! wooo

[Bonjour43MA]

get the new Fuji F11 with new manual controls, it's replacing the F10 which was a great little camera for taking indoor shots at high ISOs (up to 1600) and the image quality is superb.

The SD500 or the new SD550 is good except that you can't do much with the manual mode if you want to be creative with it.

Another good choice would be the Casio EX750, LOTS of manual features including Aperture Priority, Shutter Priority, etc. and it's A LOT cheaper than the Canon SD500 plus everything's FAST - fast AF, no shutter lag, fast operation speed.

[HyperREV]

Originally posted by Bonjour43MA
get the new Fuji F11 with new manual controls, it's replacing the F10 which was a great little camera for taking indoor shots at high ISOs (up to 1600) and the image quality is superb.



havent seen the F11 but the F10 is fawkin sweet.

not sure if anybody here knows who gary fong is but he has one and couldnt stop raving about it.

[hamsup]

hm... i read about the casio.. but some people who are brand loyal i guess.. told me not to get that one.. lol !

skinnypupp.. i dun want my camera very small.. the size of the camera doesn't really matter.. nothing HUGE.. like a digi SLR... =P

[Psykopathik]

ok guys I need a new SLIM camera fast. size is important as well as features, looking for something in the $300 range, $400 MAX.
need to be able to pick up locally too. no time for shippping.

things i need it to do:
3 Mpixel mnimum
unlimited video and sound capture
large-ish LCD

thanks for the help and input.

[Psykopathik]

ok Konica Dimage G530 OR Casio Exilim Z57?

[SkinnyPupp]

The Z57 isn't slim. If you want slim, get the S500. I have that one (replaced the S100 I had that got damaged from water). Image quality is pretty bleh, but everything else about the camera rocks. It's super fast, tiny, has a nice screen, and has a bunch of pretty useful features.

[Psykopathik]

got the casio from Costco. $379.

VS $499@Futureshop.

[KJL]

what do u guys think of Canon SD450??

[dub.dub]

i think of it as having a bigger screen than the SD400 :D

[Edison_Chen]

I have a Sony W7 Cyber-shot 7.2MP Digital Camera

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10059019&catid=

and i sux using it..
lol...

Any tips?

[dub.dub]

7? or T7?

[jeffh]

aha prolly not what you menat for a "new" camera, but im really getting into this photography thing. firs tthings forst im cheap and dont realy wanna spend any more than a couple hundred dollars on a camera. this is why ive decided to start off with an oldschool film camera, this way i can play with shutter speeds and zoom etc to gain some experience before i decide to drop big money on some fancy slr camera. what is a film camera with all these advanced options called? is it just an SLR camera?
who makes a decent film camera that i should look out for and is there any place in particular you thnik i should look for said camera? remember im cheap but i want practice with real settings not jsut my moms cheap point and shoot

[hamsup]

if you want all the manual options.. i think you have to go with a SLR.... perhaps not a digital SLR.. though you will spend tons of money developing film !!!

the nikon F55 is not bad.. my dad has that one.. and some of the pictures we took with it.. turned out incredible =)

[kumo]

DSLR is good for learning photography imo... the D50 is a great camera for its price.

[hamsup]

anyone have good hook ups for cameras ????

i think i am going to head to aberdeen to talk to my buddy at broadway cameras... though i haven't seen him in a long long long time !

[dub.dub]

what camera have u decided to get?

[Jomo]

Jeff you can get a much better film camera than digital for the money, however, it lacks massively in the convenience of digital photography. If I wasn't working fulltime, I feel I may have been better off spending the same amount on a canon film body, however, I'm pleased with my purchase and I enjoy being able to take tons of pics and pick and choose with digital.

[jeffh]

which camera did ytou get and is it slr? i would not be adverse to getting a dslr but i was under the impression that even the entry level cams were in the 1000 range

[Jomo]

I've got a Canon 300D (Digital Rebel). Your impression is right, most local places will sell the low end DSLR's (Rebel XT) for a bit over $1000 right now. Not sure what the Nikon equivalent is at the moment or its price.

I should clarify though, even if you find a used digital SLR that's getting dated, like a Digital Rebel (300D) or a 10D, you're still getting a very capable camera that many folks have put out TONS of great pictures with. I think my camera lacks, but I'd still recommend a newbie to buy one because it has what you need to take good pics and learn with.

I'm not sure what the market is for a used 300D, but I'm sure it's not too bad. I bought mine for 1000 bucks but it came with the kit lens, a 50mm 1.8, a 55-200mm and a 1gb SanDisk Ultra II compact flash card. I bet you could find a body + kit lens for between $600 and $800.

Here's a few snaps I took, if they're bad it's not the camera, it's the user ;)

http://static.flickr.com/33/52569455_1ec91ffa8c_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/30/46939553_77dbafe27e_o.jpg
http://static.flickr.com/24/52784780_7f80a51bb1_o.jpg

So again, my suggestion is to buy a used one! I'd look for a 10D, post a wanted ad in the photo-lab buy-sell here and look around in other buy/sell's! People are always upgrading and camera bodies seem to buy and sell pretty quickly, there always seems to be a buyer.

[jeffh]

thanks for all the help jomo and crew. we'll see if i can get some more shots in the pic of the day thread in the next couple months

[kbus]

i see the canon sd400 on sale this week at futureshop/bestbuy for $429

is that the best deal for a small camera like that?

[SkinnyPupp]

The detail on that bird!

[hamsup]

Thanks everyone for giving me advice on a P&S camera... i just bought a SD500 yesterday from broadway camera.... go to the one in aberdeen center.... =) look for the sales guy .. jackson.. he is awesome =)

[dub.dub]

what he do for you? :p
or how much did u get it for?

[SuperAman]

Just wondering if anyone here has had any experiences/reviews with the Olympus E-300 or 500 DSLR cameras?
Also if anyone has had any experiences/reviews about the Panasonic FZ4 camera?

I read some reviews on camera guides and stuff, but I would like some first hand reviews from people here!

[Ch28]

Alright guys...need some camera crew insight :D

My parents are currently in Shanghai and will be headed to HK in the next couple of days. They're looking to get a digicam over there because a lot of the electronics over there are cheaper then the prices here.

What's a good camera to get that ranges from $400-$500? We're looking for a camera that has a good mix of everything (size, image quality, functions etc.)

Thanks :)

[Robalong]

I've had experience with all cameras mentioned and all i can ask is what are you going to be needing out of the camera. Of course the Olympus DSLR is going to be much faster in shutter release and focusing and have more of an SLR feel to it. Money wise if you are not wanting to spend much then go with the Panasonic, but ur comparative camera is priced much much less than the two olympus. Something more compareable would be the FZ30.

[SuperAman]

Originally posted by Robalong
I've had experience with all cameras mentioned and all i can ask is what are you going to be needing out of the camera. Of course the Olympus DSLR is going to be much faster in shutter release and focusing and have more of an SLR feel to it. Money wise if you are not wanting to spend much then go with the Panasonic, but ur comparative camera is priced much much less than the two olympus. Something more compareable would be the FZ30.

Well fer sure I'll be getting the FZ4 to replace the fuji s5000 I had, it's just that i'm not sure if I should add a bit of cash and get the FZ5/20 or add more $$ and get the Olympus E300. I don't think AB Sound has anything else that is similar in prices of these cameras

[Robalong]

what are the prices of those at AB sound? if i was u i'd spend a bit more to get at least teh FZ20, the bad thing about the olympus e300 is that its not like u can go out and get lots of used stuff for it, so ur stuck with getting everything new and unless u have a hook up it aint gonna be cheap, but i'd be interested on the prices at AB cuz a couple of my friends are looking for those cameras cheap

[Senna4ever]

The E300 has a crappy viewfinder.

[Robalong]

that too :P

[SuperAman]

Originally posted by Robalong
what are the prices of those at AB sound? if i was u i'd spend a bit more to get at least teh FZ20, the bad thing about the olympus e300 is that its not like u can go out and get lots of used stuff for it, so ur stuck with getting everything new and unless u have a hook up it aint gonna be cheap, but i'd be interested on the prices at AB cuz a couple of my friends are looking for those cameras cheap

well i haven't even checked out the prices yet for the olympus, but I recall seeing a flyer they had that stated 15% of Olympus digi cam's. As for the FZ20 i believe it was going for like $729 last time I checked.
Well the reason I'm getting it there is they are replacing my Fuji S5000 under warranty and they are probably giving me the Panasonix FZ4. So I figured if I add a little more $$ I can get a better camera. They might even swing me a deal too cause right now they are trying to delay giving me the camera and they're trying to screw me around. So you think the FZ20 is a pretty good one eh? how much better is it, than the FZ5? other than the hotshoe?

[Robalong]

constant 2.8! manual focus ring, heavier camera so its easier to stabilize

[Ch28]

Originally posted by Ch28
Alright guys...need some camera crew insight :D

My parents are currently in Shanghai and will be headed to HK in the next couple of days. They're looking to get a digicam over there because a lot of the electronics over there are cheaper then the prices here.

What's a good camera to get that ranges from $400-$500? We're looking for a camera that has a good mix of everything (size, image quality, functions etc.)

Thanks :)

[Robalong]

Originally posted by Ch28


you need to post up a little more of your needs. "a good mix" isn't really that specific and you'll prolly get lots of people not saying anything because any camera is really a good choice. Personally if you stay with a Camera Manufacturer u cant really go wrong, ie: canon, nikon, olympus, its all a preference to features.

[Ch28]

Right now I'm considering the Canon SD 400/500 or the S60/70/80

I was looking at a Casio slim camera but my gf said the image quality sucks on them because her aunt in HK had one and the pictures didn't turn out to good.

Hmmm....

[Senna4ever]

Canon probably has the best image quality. I have the S30 and it's amazing. The S series cameras are kind of bulky if you're going to carry it around with you all the time, but you get the manual controls that the SD series do not have.

If you can, stay away from the cameras with the super slim form factor...they're very hard to hold steady.

[SuperAman]

well i popped by ab sound today and picked up my camera, I chose the Panasonic Fz20. Is this a good pick? also picked up a 512 sd card for about 59bucks. Damn SD is so big(i'm use to XD)


but anyways is this a good choice? i've got 30days for exchange.

[Senna4ever]

It's supposed to be a really nice camera...use it and see how good it is. I think Orgasm Donor has the same one.

[Ch28]

Originally posted by Senna4ever
Canon probably has the best image quality. I have the S30 and it's amazing. The S series cameras are kind of bulky if you're going to carry it around with you all the time, but you get the manual controls that the SD series do not have.

If you can, stay away from the cameras with the super slim form factor...they're very hard to hold steady.

That's exactly why I'm torn between a decision on whether to get the SD or S series. I'm basically trading off size for functions.

How important are the manual controls and what sort of things can you use them for? I've played around with an S series before but never had the time to fully try out the manual controls.

[Senna4ever]

Originally posted by Ch28
That's exactly why I'm torn between a decision on whether to get the SD or S series. I'm basically trading off size for functions.

How important are the manual controls and what sort of things can you use them for? I've played around with an S series before but never had the time to fully try out the manual controls.
To me, it's important to have manual control in some situations, but honestly, I don't use it very often. Usually in low light or special effects I'll use it. I'd be perfectly happy with an SD series.

[Senna4ever]

My cousin has an SD series camera, and it takes photos that are just as good as my S30.

[ALTypeS]

I already have a dslr so I'm looking for a very compact (slim) camera..something that can be carried in your pocket on a daily basis. The more attractive it looks, the better. My budget is around $400 - $800 including tax. There are just too many cameras out there and it's hard for me to decide. Any advice, personal reviews, etc, etc is appreciated.

btw, I was looking at the Canon SD300 (or better), Sony T7...and some Casio and Fuji cameras in that range.

[Jomo]

That Sony T7 looks like a helluva little cam if all you want is a super slim, trendy point and shoot. 5.1 megapixels, 3x optical zoom, 2.5" LCD and the lens is made by Carl Zeiss. I shoot with a canon SLR and i intend to stick with canon unless something drastic changes... but I think if i was looking at one of those super slim point and shoots... i'd go for the Sony.

[Jomo]

Ooooh i just found something even better! It's very slightly bigger (still very slim!)... yber-shot® DSC-N1 Digital Camera. It's 8.1 MP CCD instead of 5.1, and the LCD is 3", which is pretty HUGE for a little camera. $499 US which falls inside your budget, however Im not sure if it's in stores yet, you might have to wait.

[Senna4ever]

Canon.

[dub.dub]

Originally posted by ALTypeS
I already have a dslr so I'm looking for a very compact (slim) camera..something that can be carried in your pocket on a daily basis. The more attractive it looks, the better. My budget is around $400 - $800 including tax. There are just too many cameras out there and it's hard for me to decide. Any advice, personal reviews, etc, etc is appreciated.

btw, I was looking at the Canon SD300 (or better), Sony T7...and some Casio and Fuji cameras in that range.

ooo i am selling a Sony Cybershot DSC-T7 if you are interested: http://www.revscene.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=337753

[Bonjour43MA]

Fuji F10

it's probably the best Pocket camera you can get in that price range.

HIGHLY RECOMMENDED

[//RacingSpirit>>]

currently looking at the canon a520.....anything else i should look at?

[Domani]

BEST. g6, pro1, dcs-828

[Jomo]

What's your price range??? Take a look over in the advice for buying digital cameras thread.

[Senna4ever]

Canon S80

[Ch28]

Well it looks like I'll be picking up the Canon SD550 from HK. I end up saving about $200.

[//RacingSpirit>>]

basically looking at cameras about $300 or less, with a decent lens that can capture nice pictures.

[dub.dub]

$300 or less... camera by itself, you can get a canon sd200 or a520 (which has more manual features but no lithium battery with it)

[Denny]

Eversince I bought my digital rebel, I've noticed I've been taking a lot less photos. It's such a big camera I can't bring it everywhere so I was thinking of getting something small. Not planning to take professional photos with this camera; just everyday photos.

I was considering the Canon S550 and overall it's a good camera, but there's the Fujifilm FX10 which has very little noise! I don't know which one to get. The S550 has more function, is smaller and looks nicer but the FX10 point & shoot has way less noise.

S550
7MP
• More functions, manual controls, etc
• Noise like any other compact camera
• Small, metal body & looks really nice
• Uses SD cards which I have a ton of
$600

FX10
• 6MP
• Very basic point & shoot
• Very little noise. It's like a Canon 350D; ISO 1600 is similar to ISO 400 on other cameras.
• Bigger, not as compact and looks cheap.
• Uses XD cards which adds another $100
$470 (or $350 CDN from the states)

EDIT: I forgot to add this camera:
Fuji FinePix 9.0MP Digital Camera (E900)
• 9MP
• manual controls, etc
• Little noise, ISO 800 is similiar to ISO 400
• Biggest of the 3, I still have to have a look at it to see how big it is
• Uses XD cards which adds another $100
$600

[HyperREV]

why do you need such a high mp for everyday snapshots? personally i'd go with either the canon S80 or the Fuji F10 if you need that much resolution. otherwise why not look at the canon sd300? it can be had for 380ish right now, and im sure it will get cheaper for december.

[Denny]

I like high resolution because I can crop the photos and zoom in on my computer to see the details (of landscapes). I also print out my favourite photos on 8x10 to put in my album.

I saw the SD300, but I already hae a SD200 and it doesn't seem like a good upgrade. SD200 is a good camera but it's always being used by someone else in my family.

[Jassanova]

All of the amazing photographers on Revscene have inspired me to get back into shooting photos as a hobby.

So I'm looking to pick up a Digital SLR when I'm back in Vancouver in a couple of weeks, are there any suggestions for something to start off with, that isn't too expensive?

I was looking at the Nikon D50 and the Canon Rebel XT SLR.

[Jomo]

You can probably find a decently priced Digital Rebel, Rebel XT or 10D nowadays. Canon gear is the most common in north america, so there's never a shortage of used lenses for sale (always good news!). Some say Nikon's are more erganomic, but I never found my old Digital Rebel to be a pain.

Buy a used camera, there's lots for sale and you save a huge amount.

[Jassanova]

Originally posted by Jomo
Buy a used camera, there's lots for sale and you save a huge amount.

Thanks for the advice, I might end up going this route now.

Is there anything in specific I have to worry about?

Does the number of shots taken matter that much?

[endless402]

as long as u got warranty, used cameras are fine

but if i were making a large investment, its not worth it to go used

[valent|n0]

Anyone familiar with these models?

which one would u choose
best value?

Olympus SP-310 $349 (door crasher) VS DSC-W7 ($399)

I bought the Sony DSCW7 already
I just want to make sure I make the right selection

thanks

[Senna4ever]

Originally posted by valent|n0
Anyone familiar with these models?

which one would u choose
best value?

Olympus SP-310 $349 (door crasher) VS DSC-W7 ($399)

I bought the Sony DSCW7 already
I just want to make sure I make the right selection

thanks
OMG!!! Those are crap! The Sony will break the day after the warranty runs out!!!


Hahaha...just kidding. Good choice.

[Ch28]

Woo!

Been playing around with my Canon IXUS 750 (SD550) I got from HK and this thing rocks. The pictures are much more crisp compared to my old Canon S110. 7mp > *

[kumo]

heads up:

https://www.merklecamera.com:11125/m-cart/Product.asp?pid=sigsd10kit

SD10 two lens kit for $1199, good alternative for those who want D50/350D

[Senna4ever]

Whoa!

......donations are now being accepted by me.

[[BlackDiamond]]

Hey All,

Im new to the world of photography and just love it. I'm considering getting a Olympus E300.

Seems like a pretty good deal in the $1000 range with 2 lenses already included in the box.

From what I been looking in the world of Digital SLR the price is pretty competitive. DPreviews gave this camera a good rating as well.

What do you guys think about it? Any features not available in this camera that Canons have? Anything else I should consider in the $1000 range?

I appreciate any response.

Thank you
-Ramon

[Jomo]

I would get a Canon or a Nikon before an Olympus. Though it's a good brand, canon and nikon gear is MUCH more common in the used market, as well as new. For $1000 bucks (or therabouts) you could pick up a canon or nikon, or get a used one and possibly some lenses too.

[[BlackDiamond]]

Agreed, but check this out:
http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10063777&catid=

$999 and it has 2 lenses. Brand new we're talking about! :)

[endless402]

evolt is cool cuz of their ultrasonic dust remover
but like ppl said, fourthirds lens system isnt that popular so its hard to find lenses

but it has small buffer and images arent as nice as other dslrs


but good value overall


not a fan of the look tho imo, it looks more like a wannabe

consider getting the sigma sd10 with 2 lenses for 1200cdn
or a nikon d50 kit for 950

[Bonjour43MA]

Nikon gets my vote :)

[[BlackDiamond]]

I'm just trying to stay away from $1000+ cameras that are just body for that price.

How about this Pentax? Lower resolutions but seems like a good deal.

http://www.futureshop.ca/catalog/proddetail.asp?logon=&langid=EN&sku_id=0665000FS10065392&catid=

Thanks for all your opinion guys.

[endless402]

nikon D50 kit is best deal under 1k

[niforpix]

Are you looking for something with or without warranty? You can pick up a nice used camera like I did anywhere from $600 and up. I got a 6.3MP Canon 300D and I love it. It's perfect for me. It has the features I need for a beginner. And since I already had a 35mm Canon SLR both of the lenses work with the digital one. It's a bonus! :)

Like people said tho, you'd probably be better of going with Canon or Nikon. It's kind of like debating if you should get a fully loaded Cavalier or a basic Civic - both same price (more less) but which one will be better in the long run? (no offence to Cavalier drivers :P )

Good luck with your decision!

[[BlackDiamond]]

Where do I find a Nikon D50 under $1000? Any major stores?

[[BlackDiamond]]

nevermind. found it, LD :)

[kumo]

SD10 gets my vote.. absolutely stunning colors and details. i would've got it if it was this cheap back then.. and also, after a minor modding, the SD10 mount can use all canon lens fully functional, that's a plus too.

for pentax cameras, i can't recommend it unless you already have some pentax lens, the AF is pretty slow and the jpg-out-of-camera is nasty..

[Robalong]

Originally posted by kumo
SD10 gets my vote.. absolutely stunning colors and details. i would've got it if it was this cheap back then.. and also, after a minor modding, the SD10 mount can use all canon lens fully functional, that's a plus too.

for pentax cameras, i can't recommend it unless you already have some pentax lens, the AF is pretty slow and the jpg-out-of-camera is nasty..

agreed on the pentax

[endless402]

Originally posted by [BlackDiamond]
nevermind. found it, LD :)

yah u should be able to get them to pricematch a smaller store or negotiate it down to 950 at least

plus 2 year warranty!

[[BlackDiamond]]

What are good small camera stores here in vancouver?? Any suggestions?

[Jomo]

Why small? You'll get a better deal at a bigger store. Check Leo's in vancouver, from the price checks I've done at local stores, they're the most competative.

[[BlackDiamond]]

Ah ok. I thought it was kinda like NCIX and Future Shop for example, where u get better deals on smaller stores.

[Jomo]

Take a look in the yellow pages. Other places to check out are Broadway Camera and Kerrisdale Photography (or is it cameras?). I recall finding the best prices at Leo's though.

[[BlackDiamond]]

Thanks a lot, I'll check it out.

[Senna4ever]

Inter-pro Photo on Howe st. will price match. That's where I bought my 7D.

Broadway Cameras will give you a discount if you haggle with them. The prices in the display case is only a suggestion. They will discount from that price by about 10%.

[[BlackDiamond]]

Cool, I'll check them out as well.

[Bonjour43MA]

Originally posted by Senna4ever
Inter-pro Photo on Howe st. will price match. That's where I bought my 7D.

Broadway Cameras will give you a discount if you haggle with them. The prices in the display case is only a suggestion. They will discount from that price by about 10%.


I bought a lens at Inter pro awhile ago and didn't realize they had a no-return policy until AFTER I paid for the lens... that sucks.

good thing the lens' a keeper :)

[Senna4ever]

^^^ What? Really?

[Bonjour43MA]

yeah man, they'll exchange your item if it's defective but if you want to return it simply because u're not happy with it, they'll charge you like a 20% restocking fee or something like that... or was it 5% i can't remember.

look at the bottom of your receipt, 3rd one down the list :

"No refund or exchange without prior approval. All merchandise returns subject to a minimum of 20% restocking charge"

it's kinda dumb, i think. but i'm sure they'll let you return it if you make a scene in front of other customers... that being said, I probably won't shop there too often simply because of this dumb no-return policy.

:(

but I'm happy with the lens so that's fine.

[Senna4ever]

Damn, you're right. It's probably because some people will 'buy' a lens, use it for a wedding or something and return it saying they changed thier mind.

[endless402]

lol london drugs is great for returns

[[BlackDiamond]]

Originally posted by endless402
lol london drugs is great for returns


Agreed, I returned a 4 months old subwoofer once (no receipt) .. hehehe

[stevo911_]

I'm thinking about getting a new digital camera (my 2 dollar, 0.3 megapixel one just doesnt cut it :p)
I'm thinking I probably want to spend about $150-200 (maybe more). Something thats about 4-5 megapixels.
Basically I'm wondering what are some reputable brands, ones that come with decent software (sony can lick my balls).
For most of the time I'm using it a point and shoot would be useful (just taking pics with friends etc, quick snapshots, so one that can take a couple shots quickly would be a bonus), though an SLR would be nice, are there any SLR's on the market that you can set to auto focus etc if you decide to get lazy? I dont need a super fancy one with insane lenses or anything like that.
I dont need a huge screen or anything (I'd rather have better battery life, (alot of the time I just keep the lcd turned off anyways).
I'm just starting to look now, but any sort of advice and direction would be much appreciated.

[Weapon]

can't really beat the canon powershots for that price range

[stevo911_]

The powershot is one option I'm looking into, just quickly peroozing through ebay I came up with a couple cameras but apparently I suck at linking to ebay, one was a Minolta Dimage z2 4.0 megapixel 10x optical zoom, the other is a Fujifilm FinePix 4.0 Megapixel 6x optical zoom, both SLR/Auto

Does anybody know of which stores in vic are the best for looking at digital camera's (employee knowledge wise/ selection wise, pricewise would be nice too, but I'd rather be given correct info about what I'm buying than getting it cheap and getting fed BS *cough* futureshop *cough*)

[stevo911_]

Figured I'd post this thread in here as well.
I'm thinking about getting a new digital camera (my 2 dollar, 0.3 megapixel one just doesnt cut it )
I'm thinking I probably want to spend about $150-200 (maybe more). Something thats about 4-5 megapixels.
Basically I'm wondering what are some reputable brands, ones that come with decent software (sony can lick my balls).
For most of the time I'm using it a point and shoot would be useful (just taking pics with friends etc, quick snapshots, so one that can take a couple shots quickly would be a bonus), though an SLR would be nice, are there any SLR's on the market that you can set to auto focus etc if you decide to get lazy? I dont need a super fancy one with insane lenses or anything like that.
I dont need a huge screen or anything (I'd rather have better battery life, (alot of the time I just keep the lcd turned off anyways).
I'm just starting to look now, but any sort of advice and direction would be much appreciated.

Cannon Powershot has been suggested in this price range, any thoughts?

Original thread : http://www.revscene.net/forums//showthread.php?s=&threadid=345094

[jsooke]

I have been using a Canon Power Shot A400 ... used by AirMiles to get it:D

It seems to take decent pics, is easy to use (easier than the previous ones). The only thing I do not like is the time it takes to focus and take a shot. When taking pics of moving cars (AutoX) I have to plan and pan ahead, as there is about a 2 sec delay from pressing the button to taking a pic.

I use ACDC for my photo editing ... so cannot realy comment on the Canon software.

Read up on Epinions for other reviews.

Jay

[Senna4ever]

Canons are great P&S cameras.

[BiggyD]

I have been looking a lot at the D-SLR's out there, and I think I want to go with the D-50, as I am a poor high school student.

I will only have $1500 to spend, and I need the everything with the camera, (lenses, memory card, tripod, carry case, ect..)
I found a nice kit on ebay, I'll see if I can get a link in a bit...

any recomendations? or idea's?

I can't buy one yet as I need to sell my car first...

[BiggyD]

www.ebay.ca

item # 7563766719

[?NR]

one vote for Canon :)

[aznrsx1979]

I'd go with Canon, I've had my A20 for 3 or 4 years now and i'm still happy with it

[asian_XL]

my friend just bought a Canon SD200 from FS..it's only $350 or
sth...3.2 mp, large screen, very slim and good quality...

you should try Broadway Camera in Aberdeen Center, I know you
are white and that place is owned by chinese, but you get good
price and service.

[Trinity]

:p You'll get better answers in here.

[BiggyD]

Anyone know what the Nikon D50 feels like? is it bigger then the Rebel XT? does it have the same plastic feel as the XT?

[Jomo]

BiggyD, I recommend you go to a futureshop or best buy or london drugs or some other type of store with a photo/video section and just browse through the SLR's. They all have their own feel to them and everyone's got different hands, so not everyone fits everything. I've only held/used a Canon Rebel, Rebel XT and 20D and I found the older Rebel more solid feeling than the XT, and the XT was too small. The 20D feels like a tank compared to those two. I can't comment on the Nikon's.

Forgot to mention: Your buck will usually extend a lot further if you can find used equipment. A lot of people buy cameras new and then decide they dont want/need/like them, same goes for lenses.

[BiggyD]

I would go into futureshop except I live on Saltspring Island, and all we have here is a radioshack, they don't have any camera's in stock over $200. but thanx for the feed back...

Know any local websites that have a big photography buy/sell? I can't find one on google...

[Jomo]

http://www.bccamera.com/buysell.asp
http://www.camerabuysell.com

Both local.

[BiggyD]

thanx a bunch man

[2Fas4U]

I am looking at buying a new Digital Camera and I need some advise?
- I Am looking at spending no more then 600 Max.But more in the ranges of 300-400$

I do a lot of dirtbiking and downhill biking so I want a camera that takes nice clear steady pics even when in motion,and where the glare from the lights in the background won't ruin the picture and a camera with a nice zoom in feature...

What camera do you guys recomend ???
*POST Pics/Price/Location/Specs/Links exc
Thanks !!!
RT_GURL@HOTMAIL.COM

[2Fas4U]

I am looking at buying a new Digital Camera and I need some advise?
- I Am looking at spending no more then 600 Max.But more in the ranges of 300-400$

I do a lot of dirtbiking and downhill biking so I want a camera that takes nice clear steady pics even when in motion,and where the glare from the lights in the background won't ruin the picture and a camera with a nice zoom in feature...

What camera do you guys recomend ???
*POST Pics/Price/Location/Specs/Links exc
Thanks !!!
RT_GURL@HOTMAIL.COM

[Lomac]

Ideally you'd want a 3CCD camera. However, the cheapest they tend to run are roughly $700 or so.

Anything below $600 will net you a basic, run-of-the-mill camcorder. Try to get one that records on the Mini-DV format. Hi-8 and S-VHS, though cheaper, give fairly low quality recordings. DVD and Hard Drive recorders are a lot more expensive and only gives you a restricted recording space... often much less than that offered for tape-based cameras.

If you're going to want a relatively steady shot, then you might be scapping the edges of the barrel trying to find a good camera. You'll need something equipped with an internal digital steady cam option. At that price range, they may not necessarily be all that great. And, remember, if you're going to be filming while on your bike, it'll be shaky even if you have a proper optical stabilizer.

Another thing, don't even take a camera's "Digital zoom" number into count. Always look at the optical zoom.

Camera brands in the higher end of the low-budget spectrum that I would recommend are JVC and Panasonic.

One camera I would recommend is the Sony DCR-HC21.
http://www.video-direct.com/sony/images/minidvcamcorders/dcr-hc21-lg.jpg

I'm typically more of a Canon fan over Sony but at this price range, I'd take a Sony instead.

[2Fas4U]

OK Thanks for the help!
How muh is the camera that you posted?

So what are the features I should look for when buying a camera then ?Post a few cameras you recomend ..within my price range,Thanks so much man !

[Jmac]

Do you want a digital camera (for taking pictures) or a digital video camera (for making movies) ?

[Lomac]

Originally posted by Jmac
Do you want a digital camera (for taking pictures) or a digital video camera (for making movies) ?

Hmm, good point :lol

[2Fas4U]

TAKING PICS-MAYBE VIDEOS DEPENDING ON THE PRICE !

[mos_skeeto]

Well decide because many photo cameras can do videos and many video cameras can do photos.. but none of them do both well.

I'm no photography expert but playing around with point and shoot digital cameras, Canons never let me down. I love their color.

[2Fas4U]

ok thanks
well pics it is !

[Jmac]

Yeah, most of the digital video cameras I've used take terrible pictures ... I've seen some digital cameras take half decent videos, but they're very limited in terms of memory, so you can only record so much.

As mentioned earlier, Canon is a good choice. My parents have an Elph series camera (SD200, IIRC) that takes great pics. Nice and compact, too.

How much zoom do you need, exactly ? Most digital cameras only feature 3x or 4x zoom, which is good enough for a lot of people, but not enough for some people.

[Robalong]

Panasonic DMC LZ2..... 5MP 6x optical, w/stabilizer, i believe its 359.99 right now at LD you should check it out.

[endless402]

Originally posted by BiggyD
Anyone know what the Nikon D50 feels like? is it bigger then the Rebel XT? does it have the same plastic feel as the XT?

it feels solid. its a rubber and plastic construction. if u do a search, u'll see comments that nikon d50 is much better built than the XT

check out www.dpreview.com or something and read about the build quality

[2Fas4U]

HM OK THANKS..WELL ZOOM I DUNNO HOW MUCH I WANT-SOMETHING A LIL MORE THEN DECENT.

[mos_skeeto]

OH. Two common digital camera traps.

The Megapixel trap: Don't buy a camera based on megapixel. Pick a megapixel level that is right for you and get something equal or better. Many first time digital camera shoppers look for a value (like horsepower) to compare cameras and megapixels is it. Megampixels is image size, not how nice your pictures will look. My canon 3.2 will kick a casio 5.0 in quality. Keep in mind depending on what size picture you print, a 3.5 won't make a difference with a 5 megapixel. What a larger megapixel will let you do is print larger pictures. It will also let you crop a portion of your picture to develop. As the image is bigger, it lets you take out some of the edges and still stay nice.

A big F U to the digital zoom trap: This is the worst trap of them all. I'll just tell you about my sony video camera I have. It has 20x optical zoom and 200x digital zoom. 20x looks great. I can 200x in on neighbors 2 blocks away but I get a blob of color depending on wht color the house is. What digital zoom is, even tho it sounds cool, is using a computer to grab a portion of your picture and blowing it up. Much like you would do in Photoshop to blow up a picture (which decreases quality). Heres the kicker... there is no condition where you would use optical zoom. Can't get close enough? Take a picture with optical zoomed in and crop it later. At least you have a nice image that isn't screwed up. Photoshop can handle blowing up a picture better than a little chip in your camera.

[Jmac]

As was said, Megapixels are still important, but not the end-all-be-all spec of a camera.

You should first determine the size of pictures you want, then look at all the cameras within that megapixel range.

As a general guideline, you should look at the following Megapixel ranges (or higher) for these size pictures.

4"x6"
Minimum = 0.5 MP
Good = 1.3 MP

5"x7"
Minimum = 0.8 MP
Good = 2.0 MP

8"x10", 8"x11.5" or 8"x12"
Minimum = 2.0 MP
Good = 5.0 MP

10"x15"
Minimum = 3.1 MP
Good = 7.9 MP

12"x18"
Minimum = 4.4 MP
Good = 11.3 MP

16"x24"
Minimum = 7.9 MP
Good = 20.2 MP

So, basically, what this means is that if you're only going to make 4"x6" prints from it, a higher quality 2.0 MP camera will serve you better than a lower quality 4.0 MP camera. However, if you go up to 8"x10" prints, you would probably be better off with the 4.0 MP camera.

[InvisibleSoul]

Get a Canon SD450.

[valent|n0]

get the rugged , water proof or water resistant one

Nikon Coolpix S2 is water resitant
pentax option WP is water proof

olympus has a water resistant digicam too I think

[2Fas4U]

Post pics and prices of theses Please !