[MASTER_J]

I'm planning to get hd cable, but i dont know what is better? hd shaw or hd bell? which provider has more hd channels and which one is cheaper and how much is it to get the subscription?

[terkan]

i think bell HD rite now have more channels then shaw. from channel 800-852 is all HD channels. i paid close to 80bux a month with tax but that's coz i got all the chinese channels and sports package.. only downside with bell is their reception takes a beating during storms

[Harvey Specter]

I have Bell HD and I believe Bell is adding more HD channels and movies compared to Shaw. Too bad we don't have Rogers because Rogers out in Ontario has the largest selection of HD channels and HD on demand movies and programs.

[willystyle]

the funny thing is, by the time we get all these HD channels worked out (as there still are many channels that havent switched) in Canada, HD will be obsolete, and a new technology will be in the consumer market.

[Soundy]

Shaw's current channel list: http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsServices/Television/Digital/FullChannelList.htm

16 are listed as HD.

[Koflach]

Originally posted by Soundy
Shaw's current channel list: http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsServices/Television/Digital/FullChannelList.htm

16 are listed as HD.

Shaw has 24 HD channels technically but 21 of them are the most frequently viewed. They also have one PPV HD and two Sportsnet HD channels that are frequently blacked out (regional feeds).

I am a Shaw user for the fact that it was WAY easier to set up than Bell, there is no contract required and I am no longer a victim of rain fade.

[quasi]

Originally posted by Koflach
Shaw has 24 HD channels technically but 21 of them are the most frequently viewed. They also have one PPV HD and two Sportsnet HD channels that are frequently blacked out (regional feeds).

I am a Shaw user for the fact that it was WAY easier to set up than Bell, there is no contract required and I am no longer a victim of rain fade.

Same reason I stayed with shaw.

[scheng924]

i remember back in the days when they advertised Bell ExpressVu is NOT affected by weather.. and it's the same no matter what happens and stuff...

whatever happened to that? lol

[Psykopathik]

id pick shaw as its cheaper lol

[camshaft]

was doing some searching and wanted to see if anyone else had some opinions...

Compaired to the other dish providers compaired to rogers cable digital or shaw cable

I would have to say that dish does have some issues with rain. So that is a huge thing to take into account...
But since we are in vancouver it never rains right ? lol

[Hondaracer]

Shaw all the way, although Bell has some more movie channels, they play all garbage movies, with Shaw im PVRing like a brand new movie every week and the HD is amazing for every movie they put on there

i just pvred Dirty harry and the restoration is freakin NUTS

but yea i know other ppl with bell and im really not a fan of the channel menu layout or the PVR itself, the stupid thing has a tendancy to always record a program only to the half-hour, or say if u were PVRing hockey night in Canada, the Bell PVR likes to kick out every half hour or top of the hour rather then continuning on with the entire program like u would think it would

we missed the climax of trevor lindens retirement because of bells stupid PVR..

[Eclypz]

a couple of my friends have ShawHD and all of them complain about "technical problems" with their HD feeds.

I.e. sound would disappear for seconds to minutes at a time, or image would start tearing, and they'd have to switch channels and then switch back....

Can anybody else deny/confirm this? I'm kinda in the same boat...not sure which provider to go with for HD

[Hondaracer]

those problems are almost all related to Live shows, ie. Canucks PPV etc.

occasionally i've had problems recording movies onto the shaw PVR, i've set the recordings and later when i go to watch a movie nothing happens when i press play, like the recording was corrupt or somthing

but that is a very rare occurance, i think its only happened like once maybe

other then that i cant really think of much else, occasionally the sound will "pop" and cut out for like 1-2 seconds but it's really nothing

[bartone]

a couple of my friends have ShawHD and all of them complain about "technical problems" with their HD feeds.

I.e. sound would disappear for seconds to minutes at a time, or image would start tearing, and they'd have to switch channels and then switch back....

Can anybody else deny/confirm this? I'm kinda in the same boat...not sure which provider to go with for HD

yeah i get that too. usually its on like channels 200 ~ 203 or something. The sound just cuts out for a second then it comes back on. its kinda annoying at times.

[hi5-ive]

same here, looking for HD, bell HDBOX is 299$ but you get 150$ credit back to you, so you can pay off your bills or ppv. and other deals. for shaw, they dont offer anything. $398 on site. i am with shaw for a long time and they dont offer shit atm. btw, i am just looking for a box not pvr.

[StylinRed]

Bell

[CrisQo]

bell is the way to go. and if you're cheap you can split the bill with someone else by hooking up a receiver for them on your account. instant 50% off

[m3thods]

for shaw users i can safely say i dont get any of those problems. check with a shaw technician there might be a problem with the feed going into your home.

on a side note, dont use any signal amplifiers as these will cause more problems than solve. and i must say shaw cs is much better- they replaced ALL my coaxial connections when i had a problem and they were able to get the problem fixed in a timely matter (<24 hours)

[vmec]

Shaw:

better service
no contracts
slightly cheaper

[Blinky]

same here, looking for HD, bell HDBOX is 299$ but you get 150$ credit back to you, so you can pay off your bills or ppv. and other deals. for shaw, they dont offer anything. $398 on site. i am with shaw for a long time and they dont offer shit atm. btw, i am just looking for a box not pvr.

If you do not have HD equipment I'd take the plunge and get a PVR (be is Flaw Cable or Hell Sat). You can try to leverage your past history with Shaw or pick up a box on Craigslist (just be wary of non-shaw boxes and insist/verify that the shaw box that you DO pick up doesn't have any outstanding charges sitting against it).

As for the original post - I'm on Shaw. Been with them for years and have never seriously considered Bell due to contracts, cost, and the fact that Shaw also provides me with intarwebs. I have not had any major technical problems with shaw and their CS has been pretty decent to me.

I believe that Bell has more HD channels. Check your viewing habits to determine if the additional HD channels actually bring you any value. Both offer all the "big" networks in HD, and afaik both offer HD movie channels and HD Sporksnet and TSN.

[Hondaracer]

once u get a PVR you will wonder how u lived without it

[twitchyzero]

GVRD sucks...
so not HD friendly.

[Jonydakiller]

For people who has pvr with Shaw, when you hear audio drop outs, pause the show for 2 seconds and then play it, it will be fine for the rest of the show as long as you don't switch to another channel. down side is that you will be 2 seconds delayed than live feed :)

[bartone]

^ sweet ill try that!

[Eclypz]

For people who has pvr with Shaw, when you hear audio drop outs, pause the show for 2 seconds and then play it, it will be fine for the rest of the show as long as you don't switch to another channel. down side is that you will be 2 seconds delayed than live feed :)
could have tried that today....
watched the canucks game on PPV HD at my friend's house today and the audio kept cutting out.

[Manic!]

I have had Bell for over 1 years and i tell everyone to get Shaw. Last year mydish was down for about 50 hours. That 50 hours only included the time i was home and not asleep.

The biggest problem i have with bell is there interactive channels. Sometimes when your switching channels you will get stuck at a black screen and have to wait 20 seconds for it to load then hit recall you go to the last channel. You can set up a custom channel list but there always adding or moving channels around. Another problem with Bell is if the problem can't be fixed over the phone you have to call a satellite repair person @ 50 bux a hour.

There hardware also sucks.

On a positive note there customer service has gotten a lot better. Before the customer service representatives were bilingual or at least calmed to be. You would get some person with a thick french accent that could barley speak English. Now i think they have gone to India and they are way more friendlier, can speak English and have never hung up on me.

[aznrsx1979]

I've had Shaw for a couple of years now and haven't had any problems. I even got the movie channels for a while without paying for it...lol. I'm thinking of switching to Novus to see how it is though.

[hi5-ive]

just on bell.ca ,it says Bell 72 HD channels, Rogers 55 HD channels. :P

hmmm

[red_2]

Get shaw

the PVR's are on sale for like $350-$400

[Franjo]

I've had Bell for years, Lots of HD channels and never a problem with reception at all.

[40ft e-Peen]

I work for Shaw. I even had Shaw before I started working here. Also, if you own your Bell equipment, I can get you the PVRs for free. Simply, we'll just swap. Get the PVRs now, before they go up.. :thumbsup:

[Speed2K]

Shaw has 24 HD channels technically but 21 of them are the most frequently viewed. They also have one PPV HD and two Sportsnet HD channels that are frequently blacked out (regional feeds).

I am a Shaw user for the fact that it was WAY easier to set up than Bell, there is no contract required and I am no longer a victim of rain fade.

Where are you at? I don't have problems with Rain Fade.

[hi5-ive]

Bell HDBOX $99 (after savings) buy it for 199$ , they give u 100$ credit back.

i decided to go with Bell.

[Leopold Stotch]

i wish shaw stil had the non hd pvr.

[Speed2K]

Bell HDBOX $99 (after savings) buy it for 199$ , they give u 100$ credit back.

i decided to go with Bell.

Is that what the HD boxes go for now?

[MikeyStyle]

a couple of my friends have ShawHD and all of them complain about "technical problems" with their HD feeds.

I.e. sound would disappear for seconds to minutes at a time, or image would start tearing, and they'd have to switch channels and then switch back....

Can anybody else deny/confirm this? I'm kinda in the same boat...not sure which provider to go with for HD
shaw is aware of that problem and are trying to resolve it

[skyxx]

Discovery in HD YUM!!!!!! Same goes for FOOD TV in HD...

[cls55coupe]

go with shaw .. been with them for awhile and no problems ... i think they even have monthly payments for the pvrs now

[40ft e-Peen]

We do have it payment methods. As low as $16 a month. Get it before the price goes up to $698 for those PVRS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[camshaft]

What is Bell price compared to Shaw..

Attempting to price comparison to Bell.. but can't seem to figure bell's packages out very well..

Any one know how to sign up with shaw and get a discount ? price match someone else ?

thanks guys

Shaw has
digital tv 57.95
HD tv 66.95
HD Basic 57.95
full load 115.95

[camshaft]

Well if anyone is still watching this thread or thinking about getting digital or HD TV..

I searched the net about Shaw and Bell and did some number crunching...
Tried to call Bell but they are closed sunday.. but shaw was open..

So they have the digital HD package for 67.99 or something.. asked if they had any promotions.
The lady had mentioned that after Jan 31 all the boxes are going up in price. Beyond that there wasn't really anything fantastic.

Anyone reading this will laugh...
So I just have basic cable its 32.00 +tx... yippy
The lady said that you can add digital TV for 1.99 ? serious?
Then upgrade that to HD TV for 9.00... for a total of 10.99

So normally a 67.99 package will cost me 32+10.99 (42.99)

Anyone else seen this before ?

[aznrsx1979]

Well if anyone is still watching this thread or thinking about getting digital or HD TV..

I searched the net about Shaw and Bell and did some number crunching...
Tried to call Bell but they are closed sunday.. but shaw was open..

So they have the digital HD package for 67.99 or something.. asked if they had any promotions.
The lady had mentioned that after Jan 31 all the boxes are going up in price. Beyond that there wasn't really anything fantastic.

Anyone reading this will laugh...
So I just have basic cable its 32.00 +tx... yippy
The lady said that you can add digital TV for 1.99 ? serious?
Then upgrade that to HD TV for 9.00... for a total of 10.99

So normally a 67.99 package will cost me 32+10.99 (42.99)

Anyone else seen this before ?

Yeah, that's the cost. I upgraded to HD a couple of years ago and that's what I ended up getting.

[MikeyStyle]

Well if anyone is still watching this thread or thinking about getting digital or HD TV..

I searched the net about Shaw and Bell and did some number crunching...
Tried to call Bell but they are closed sunday.. but shaw was open..

So they have the digital HD package for 67.99 or something.. asked if they had any promotions.
The lady had mentioned that after Jan 31 all the boxes are going up in price. Beyond that there wasn't really anything fantastic.

Anyone reading this will laugh...
So I just have basic cable its 32.00 +tx... yippy
The lady said that you can add digital TV for 1.99 ? serious?
Then upgrade that to HD TV for 9.00... for a total of 10.99

So normally a 67.99 package will cost me 32+10.99 (42.99)

Anyone else seen this before ?
not exactly..

basic (2-28 + random higher channels) = $32.95

if you buy a digital terminal ($98 self install or $118 if you get a technician to install it), it'll be $32.95 + $1.99 (26 digital channels)
if you rent the digital terminal itself, then it will be $32.95 + $2.95

to be able to watch hd tv, you'll need to purchase a hd terminal which can vary between $298-$498 since it's on sale before february 1st, 2009
so it'll equal out to $32.95 (basic) + $1.99 (digital + 11 hd basic channels) + $9 (another 13 hd channels = hd plus)

that hd digital package that you mention is classic cable (2-58 + random higher channels) + hd basic/plus + digital channels

[Domani]

i wish rogers still had tv here.