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g/rex
06-13-2008, 11:39 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3275/2575444915_fd8a9d8b80_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3117/2575377559_df33fbbb64_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3079/2575376227_7a00055f32_b.jpg

tweakynuts
06-13-2008, 12:16 PM
good stuff!

Domani
06-13-2008, 01:18 PM
the 2nd girl is cute, kelly clarkson-ish ;)

Levitron
06-13-2008, 01:59 PM
Last one is perfect.

All you need now is a beauty dish or ring light :D

g/rex
06-13-2008, 03:26 PM
thanks. i just got a beauty dish. waiting to use it!

77civic1200
06-13-2008, 04:35 PM
1) great shot, great dof, great color, love everything but the thumb but thats an easy crop fix
2) throw away, the focus is a few inches to far back as you can see by the hair
3) favorite of the bunch, the hair over her eye bugs me a little, but not enough that I don't still love it, lighting looks very nice and soft, care to explain the set-up?

[HuCk DuCk]
06-13-2008, 05:13 PM
to me it seems a little too much on the face... kinda blown out

on
06-13-2008, 06:21 PM
sooooo is this the new portrait thread? :)

MikesJo
06-13-2008, 08:13 PM
Are you shooting through a soft box?

g/rex
06-13-2008, 09:43 PM
Are you shooting through a soft box?

yes, the setup is softbox as mainlight to camera left. and umbrella to the left of the subjects. shot with profoto 600 at 1/4 power.

g/rex
06-13-2008, 09:45 PM
;5897789']to me it seems a little too much on the face... kinda blown out


seems fine on my screen. =)

Denny
06-13-2008, 09:49 PM
Looks nice I really like the 3rd shot.

g/rex
06-13-2008, 09:50 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2393/2575374651_8f9bb7b848.jpg

this is the lighting setup.
also the 2nd pic, i cropped that out of another picture which the other one is more in focus. i guess i just liked the mood in that one.

Denny
06-13-2008, 09:55 PM
Good choice going for the more interesting picture than the sharper one. The focus isn't that far off and non-photographers probably won't notice it.

on
06-14-2008, 08:53 PM
the last picture u posted up... just wondering...
what is the point of the light on their left? that main light will only light up the girl closest to the light and leave the girl on the right atleast 1 stop down, and of course shadows casted by the girls closer to the light

i think for that group shot u'd be better off with that main light on the right of the camera instead

g/rex
06-14-2008, 09:20 PM
i had another light, but it wasn't the same power as the one on their left so i just left it.
i will keep that in mind for my next shoot

on
06-14-2008, 09:38 PM
btw ur setup looks pretty cool, is this your garage?

Atlantis
06-14-2008, 10:09 PM
nice job G.

-ed

1983 Z28
06-14-2008, 10:45 PM
Well, here's my first attempt at a portrait ever, and it started out as a pretty crappy self-portrait; hence all the processing. No lighting rig (man, they look pretty though ;)), hell, even my tripod was busted! :( Being poor sucks.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a263/dfritter1/1-1-6.jpg

g/rex
06-15-2008, 09:26 AM
btw ur setup looks pretty cool, is this your garage?


pretty much. its pretty quick to disassemble. can't wait to move to an actual studio!

g/rex
06-18-2008, 10:18 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3020/2591492641_743b7de31a_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3133/2591490125_d3669117f0_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3158/2592325628_b16494bcd6_b.jpg

beauty dish w/ diffuser as key/ camera left
softbox camera right
reflector camera left

Levitron
06-18-2008, 10:47 PM
Wow these ones are MUCH better lit that than the first ones! Good job :)

g/rex
06-18-2008, 10:52 PM
beauty dish is AWESOME!
next i want to do a better job with the background.

on
06-19-2008, 12:36 AM
http://lh3.ggpht.com/onnong/SFddr2E4coI/AAAAAAAAGbE/OYskfQERNNk/IMG_9460.jpg?imgmax=512http://lh5.ggpht.com/onnong/SFnOOTkyJ5I/AAAAAAAAGbQ/G5sdRRV4UKw/IMG_9583.jpg?imgmax=512

i posted the first one before on the other thread but i meant to post it here in reply to the self-portrait up top ^^

the 2nd ones just for fun =)

Levitron
06-19-2008, 10:01 AM
beauty dish is AWESOME!
next i want to do a better job with the background.

Yeah I noticed that it made a world of difference for you.

So, what's her number? :P

g/rex
06-19-2008, 10:45 AM
lols 555-1234

Levitron
06-19-2008, 12:12 PM
*whips out phone*

g/rex
06-19-2008, 09:59 PM
basic setup. 580 through an umbrella camera left at 4:1 ratio fired with st-e2 on ettl.

Levitron
06-19-2008, 11:09 PM
Really cute expressions :)

May I suggest using AI Servo to catch the baby's eyes as the focus point instead of something static like the baby chair? Reason being that she is moving around fast, so I was thinking it would be like a sports photography kinda session.

g/rex
06-19-2008, 11:34 PM
same pics. just cropped ...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3105/2594993582_3a7d208cec.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3046/2594992124_717ce3456a.jpg

g/rex
06-19-2008, 11:36 PM
Really cute expressions :)

May I suggest using AI Servo to catch the baby's eyes as the focus point instead of something static like the baby chair? Reason being that she is moving around fast, so I was thinking it would be like a sports photography kinda session.


just some of the little things u forget to do before u start snapping!
i knew this!! oh well, next time. thanks for the reminder.

g/rex
06-21-2008, 12:28 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3123/2597404042_dcf0527902.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3127/2597403678_fb5d53c5f2.jpg

g/rex
06-21-2008, 12:29 AM
classroom shoot for a cd cover.

Levitron
06-21-2008, 12:48 AM
SO THAT WAS YOU ON THE STROBIST GROUP!

The second shot seems to be a bit overexposed on the right.

on
06-21-2008, 01:37 AM
the girls hot
i dont think under/over exposure means anything really as long as u got what u set out for

cheers on the great shots.

Denny
06-21-2008, 02:40 AM
lols 555-1234

Thanks for the # g/rex. I was able to book a photo shoot with her. That's a pretty cool phone number I must say.

http://unlimitedimagehosting.com/is.php?i=634&img=11146.jpghttp://unlimitedimagehosting.com/is.php?i=635&img=16185.jpg

MikesJo
06-21-2008, 02:47 AM
^That's the same girl? Shot on the right I like better.

connie
06-21-2008, 07:29 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3054/2517137187_f1678a8fa1_o.jpg

On, those two photos are amazing.

g/rex
06-21-2008, 08:33 AM
Thanks for the # g/rex. I was able to book a photo shoot with her. That's a pretty cool phone number I must say.

http://unlimitedimagehosting.com/is.php?i=634&img=11146.jpghttp://unlimitedimagehosting.com/is.php?i=635&img=16185.jpg

nice pics denny. is that the same girl in the red??
the one on the right turned out pretty good. how did you edit it?
so when's the next shoot? i wanted to try different backgrounds and different lighting techniques...

g/rex
06-21-2008, 08:39 AM
SO THAT WAS YOU ON THE STROBIST GROUP!

The second shot seems to be a bit overexposed on the right.

yea, i salvaged that picture. it was my first location shoot and i was all sweating it.... it was hot in that classroom for some reason and well, i got a bit nervous that the pics weren't turning out... not really too sure on how to work my 580s too well yet, and damn st-e2, not too sure how to work that either. should've used my pw's... not too bad for 4 months of shooting... and i didn't really know how to use strobes till about a month and a half ago...

g/rex
06-21-2008, 08:42 AM
levitron, did you add me as a friend on FLICKR?

[HuCk DuCk]
06-21-2008, 09:10 AM
that first picture denny is buggin me..... i want to say it out of focus but i don't think that's it..... it just seems the focal point is her shoulder

Denny
06-21-2008, 10:30 AM
^That's the same girl? Shot on the right I like better.

nice pics denny. is that the same girl in the red??
the one on the right turned out pretty good. how did you edit it?
so when's the next shoot? i wanted to try different backgrounds and different lighting techniques...

No they're different. I did a lot in Photoshop... background, enlarging pupils, skin texture, hair light, skin surgery, etc.. Is the retouching too much? I used to not go this far with retouching but I think the models on Model Mayhem like it retouched.

http://img357.imageshack.us/img357/4639/20080618img2767kh0.jpg

;5908649']that first picture denny is buggin me..... i want to say it out of focus but i don't think that's it..... it just seems the focal point is her shoulder

I'm not sure... It's sharp on her face... soft on her stomach and blurry on the pants. Maybe it's too much processing or looks too much like that dreamy photo effect?

dub.dub
06-21-2008, 11:02 AM
basic setup. 580 through an umbrella camera left at 4:1 ratio fired with st-e2 on ettl.

awww i don't see any picture with this one :(

g/rex
06-21-2008, 12:19 PM
yea i took them out.

77civic1200
06-21-2008, 04:26 PM
Soooooo where the heck have you guys been hiding? This thread is full of win!!! I love seeing these kinda shots here, didn't know we had many portrait shooters around. Guess I better hurry up and practice, my shots aren't up to par anymore.

mc25
06-21-2008, 08:41 PM
Im confused.... why did g/rex and denny shoot the same girl?
BTW, i like the retouched one better Denny, thats a great shot. I have no clue how you were able to retouch it so well, the hair has more shine, and the skin seems nicer as well.
G/REX i like the right photo of the school room shot best, very neat photo

g/rex
06-21-2008, 08:44 PM
Im confused.... why did g/rex and denny shoot the same girl?
BTW, i like the retouched one better Denny, thats a great shot. I have no clue how you were able to retouch it so well, the hair has more shine, and the skin seems nicer as well.
G/REX i like the right photo of the school room shot best, very neat photo

denny used my studio to do those shoots.
and thanks. it was my first location shoot.

check out my flickr. more on there.

mc25
06-21-2008, 08:48 PM
denny used my studio to do those shoots.
and thanks. it was my first location shoot.

check out my flickr. more on there.
ooooo
what is your flickr?

MikesJo
06-21-2008, 09:03 PM
levitron, did you add me as a friend on FLICKR?

I added you.

g/rex
06-21-2008, 09:39 PM
ooooo
what is your flickr?

http://flickr.com/photos/gregalmodovar

Denny
06-21-2008, 11:30 PM
Im confused.... why did g/rex and denny shoot the same girl?
BTW, i like the retouched one better Denny, thats a great shot. I have no clue how you were able to retouch it so well, the hair has more shine, and the skin seems nicer as well.
G/REX i like the right photo of the school room shot best, very neat photo

he lent his studio to me to take some pictures.
Thanks. It's a combination of several techniques; a few are already on my website. I might write a tutorial about this on my website.

Levitron
06-22-2008, 12:01 AM
levitron, did you add me as a friend on FLICKR?

Yes I did :)

g/rex
06-22-2008, 08:53 AM
cool.......

g/rex
06-23-2008, 10:01 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3171/2606934664_3c1eb5c2a4.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/2606086409_191a82201c.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3099/2606061683_4764ac31d6.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3198/2606050441_4ef05f661e.jpg

some kids portraits. the last one is my baby girl.
the other is my friend's daughter, she was grumpy during the shoot so i didn't get to shoot too many shots.

g/rex
06-23-2008, 10:17 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/2607006016_85fcfc33d0.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3034/2607003118_bb234aec7b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3263/2607008404_6dc52e131e.jpg
"no more pictures please!" lols.

Denny
06-23-2008, 10:36 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/2606086409_191a82201c.jpg

lol true religion jeans! Never knew they had those so cute.

g/rex
06-23-2008, 10:38 PM
lol true religion jeans! Never knew they had those so cute.


whatever adults have, they make it for kids. lotta $$$ in the baby industry. from $1000 strollers to $900 crib bedding sheets! just ridiculous.

Levitron
06-23-2008, 11:35 PM
Your baby has the cutest expressions ever :D

g/rex
06-23-2008, 11:40 PM
Your baby has the cutest expressions ever :D

"she got it from her momma...." lols

Levitron
06-23-2008, 11:48 PM
How old is she now?

g/rex
06-23-2008, 11:53 PM
4 months. her age reminds me how long i've been taking photos for. got my first dslr a week after she was born.

Levitron
06-23-2008, 11:56 PM
She's definitely a fun subject to do photos of for sure! With you being a new dad and all, I'm surprised you still manage to pump out so much photos :)

Here's my portrait session from tonight:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3073/2607146208_8df9f84bc3.jpg

-Triggers: PT04 x2
-Flashes: 430ex x1 (camera right), Vivitar 3600 x1 (camera left)
-Light modifiers: DIY beauty dish on Vivitar, Umbrella w/ stand on 430ex (approx. 6.5ft high)

g/rex
06-24-2008, 12:03 AM
She's definitely a fun subject to do photos of for sure! With you being a new dad and all, I'm surprised you still manage to pump out so much photos :)

Here's my portrait session from tonight:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3073/2607146208_8df9f84bc3.jpg

-Triggers: PT04 x2
-Flashes: 430ex x1 (camera right), Vivitar 3600 x1 (camera left)
-Light modifiers: DIY beauty dish on Vivitar, Umbrella w/ stand on 430ex (approx. 6.5ft high)

yea i saw them on flickr pretty cool, was that for fun/practice or was it for somebody? we should setup a strobist meet like the one they did on flickr. if we get 3 or 4 others that are down to get together i might be able to get a 1 or 2 models as well as a makeup artist. i wanna gain more experience in location shoots. and i find time to take lots of studio pics cuz its in my garage. not bad at all, and i would take more pics of my lil one but her mom doesn't quite approve of all the flashes. lols...

Levitron
06-24-2008, 12:11 AM
yea i saw them on flickr pretty cool, was that for fun/practice or was it for somebody? we should setup a strobist meet like the one they did on flickr. if we get 3 or 4 others that are down to get together i might be able to get a 1 or 2 models as well as a makeup artist. i wanna gain more experience in location shoots. and i find time to take lots of studio pics cuz its in my garage. not bad at all, and i would take more pics of my lil one but her mom doesn't quite approve of all the flashes. lols...

I'd be hesitant if I were to put my kid (hypothetically speaking, that is ;)) in front of strobes like that. So I agree with the mom :D

Models, eh? What about that one that you gave me the number for? LOL :thumbsup:

Almost forgot answering your question: I did it for fun I guess. Was helping out a friend mainly.

g/rex
06-24-2008, 12:14 AM
Models, eh? What about that one that you gave me the number for? LOL :thumbsup:


hahah, don't you got a gf. :eek:

Mananetwork
06-24-2008, 12:34 AM
She's definitely a fun subject to do photos of for sure! With you being a new dad and all, I'm surprised you still manage to pump out so much photos :)

Here's my portrait session from tonight:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3073/2607146208_8df9f84bc3.jpg

-Triggers: PT04 x2
-Flashes: 430ex x1 (camera right), Vivitar 3600 x1 (camera left)
-Light modifiers: DIY beauty dish on Vivitar, Umbrella w/ stand on 430ex (approx. 6.5ft high)

Strobist:
-Triggers: PT04 x2
-Flashes: 430ex x1 (camera right), Vivitar 3700 x1 (camera left)
-Light modifiers: DIY beauty dish on Vivitar, Umbrella w/ stand on 430ex (approx. 6.5ft high)

The idea here is to create a photo montage of 100 images that show the passage of time. Our targeted outcome is 100 photographs of the subject in various states of being (i.e. angry, happy, sad, etc.). However, one shot out of the 100 will be a blank wall, thus only giving us 99 images in total with the subject inside the frame. The blank wall will be "00:00:00"; each photo thereafter will be "00:01:00", "00:02:00", and onwards. We spent approximately 99 minutes on the session, and thus "99 minutes" along with the idea that there will be 99 images of the subject.

Can't wait to see the final product!

on
06-24-2008, 06:49 PM
i would be hella bored after the 3rd pic ^ if i was the person in the picture.

is this at grandville island

davidhtam
06-24-2008, 07:00 PM
Hey Levitron,

Was that you i met when i went to pick up the transmitters from kyle?

Domani
06-24-2008, 07:13 PM
i would be hella bored after the 3rd pic ^ if i was the person in the picture.

is this at grandville island

yes it was...


but shooting with a buddy is always fun.

ForbiddenX
06-24-2008, 07:37 PM
Hey g/rex nice pics. I know the one with the baby :) she went to my highschool.

Levitron
06-24-2008, 10:00 PM
Hey Levitron,

Was that you i met when i went to pick up the transmitters from kyle?

Yeah, that was me. I drove my dad's car that day...I usually drive the Mazda.

g/rex
06-24-2008, 10:01 PM
Hey g/rex nice pics. I know the one with the baby :) she went to my highschool.


Thanks. hey, i did too. what year u grad?

ForbiddenX
06-25-2008, 09:34 AM
^I'm graduating next year :)

g/rex
06-25-2008, 09:40 AM
^I'm graduating next year :)

oic. wow, i feel old. :cry:

Levitron
06-25-2008, 12:28 PM
Hits you like a ton of bricks doesn't it ;)

davidhtam
06-25-2008, 04:17 PM
Yeah, that was me. I drove my dad's car that day...I usually drive the Mazda.

how do you like the triggers? i kind of wish they came w/ the pc cords.. but meh... $20

Levitron
06-25-2008, 04:50 PM
how do you like the triggers? i kind of wish they came w/ the pc cords.. but meh... $20

You mean the ones that you picked up from Kyle? I didn't get them. I have the original PT04's, so the YongNuo's wouldn't be compatible with them.

Levitron
06-25-2008, 04:51 PM
yes it was...


but shooting with a buddy is always fun.

+1

:thumbsup:

g/rex
06-25-2008, 08:28 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3109/2612625808_f853bfa70e.jpg

tried some series shots today. here's what i came up with.

tweakynuts
06-25-2008, 10:58 PM
^I'm graduating next year :)

hey i grad next year too! woohoo for us!

what school do/did you guys go to? tupper?

g/rex
06-26-2008, 05:00 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3260/2613990105_101fe0c829.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3095/2613993183_49f1ab7c2b.jpg

dspirit79
06-26-2008, 08:02 PM
These were all taken in one session with the lights unchanged in position. All of these photos were taken with 580EX's and Vivitars. I'm a strobist at heart.

3 Lights... different uses.

Can any of you guess what I used in each photo and where the lights are positioned? It's good practice for those wanting to improve their off hotshoe lighting.

Enjoy! These haven't been touched except for exposure and color correction. All vignetting and light fall offs are in camera.

http://www.threesixtyphoto.com/TSP%20Wedding%20Gallery/Portraits%202/JBrownHeashot-0049.jpg

http://www.threesixtyphoto.com/TSP%20Wedding%20Gallery/Portraits%202/JBrownHeashot-0133.jpg

http://www.threesixtyphoto.com/TSP%20Wedding%20Gallery/Portraits%202/JBrownHeashot-0116.jpg

http://www.threesixtyphoto.com/TSP%20Wedding%20Gallery/Portraits%202/JBrownHeashot-0039.jpg

dspirit79
06-26-2008, 08:16 PM
Oh... I forgot to mention to you Greg. The finer aspects of portraiture lighting is to be able to light with only one major catchlight in the subject's eye. The reason behind it is because 2 catch lights take away from the eyes as well as start to become distracting. Just a quick tidbit!

Good work tho considering you've only been at it for a few months!

g/rex
06-26-2008, 09:14 PM
Oh... I forgot to mention to you Greg. The finer aspects of portraiture lighting is to be able to light with only one major catchlight in the subject's eye. The reason behind it is because 2 catch lights take away from the eyes as well as start to become distracting. Just a quick tidbit!

Good work tho considering you've only been at it for a few months!

thank you, i will take that into consideration.

Denny
06-26-2008, 09:22 PM
From photographer's POV:
-softbox 45º right; height around his head
-flash 90º left with snoot; height around top of his head.
-flash 90º left same height as softbox
?

on
06-26-2008, 09:59 PM
1 background
1 rimlight camera left and behind model
1 soft box right of camera

^- no fill light

and i disagree with the no more than 1 catchlight rule. theres been debates about this...

LOTS AND LOTS of shoots have beautiful catchlights with multiple lights such as high fashion glamor stuff with the reflector under chin. it actually catches the viewers attention more. of course not "more catchlight the better" its more like it takes skills and practice to make catchlights look good

Denny
06-26-2008, 10:22 PM
BACKGROUND! That's it!! I was wondering where the 3rd flash was haha

Levitron
06-26-2008, 11:27 PM
dspirit...I think I've mentioned this before as well, but your lighting always seems to be underexposed. Save for that first shot, the other ones simply lack light and even though you're going for the dramatic look, there's not enough contrast.

I'm also with on for the "multi-catchlight" idea. It's not "bad" per se to have more than one catch light. Heck, I have to be honest here...I sometimes photoshop at least 2 catchlights into the eye just to make it "sparkle" more. The eyes are windows to the soul....I prefer to draw people's attention to them.

Levitron
06-26-2008, 11:28 PM
^ Sorry for the brashness of the critique, but I hold you to a higher level because I know you have the knowledge, talent, and gear to do so :)

g/rex
06-26-2008, 11:46 PM
i know what you mean by the multiple catchlight being a distraction but i find that sometimes, if done right, it can be very pleasing. for example, an eye with 2 catchlights one under the other of a square and a circle can take away from the overall picture, but two catchlights that are square/rectangle beside each other can look very cool and interesting. i guess its in personal preference. different photographer, different style, different perception.

OT: is it just me or do you guys get lazy typing the proper way? i had this instance today where i was typing a letter to a client and i went from proper to msn/internet typing.

Levitron
06-26-2008, 11:58 PM
OT: is it just me or do you guys get lazy typing the proper way? i had this instance today where i was typing a letter to a client and i went from proper to msn/internet typing.

Yeah I hate it when that happens. I drive myself crazy when I do that automatically....it's almost mechanical.

g/rex
06-27-2008, 12:06 AM
"lols rofl omg haha ttyl ... np ty kk icic ok nope"

gotta get these out of my internet vocab/phone text

Levitron
06-27-2008, 12:26 AM
I don't think my clients would enjoy that very much either LOL ;)

on
06-27-2008, 12:49 AM
dont i get a prize or soemthing for guessing the light ~.~

dspirit79
06-27-2008, 08:34 AM
dspirit...I think I've mentioned this before as well, but your lighting always seems to be underexposed. Save for that first shot, the other ones simply lack light and even though you're going for the dramatic look, there's not enough contrast.

I'm also with on for the "multi-catchlight" idea. It's not "bad" per se to have more than one catch light. Heck, I have to be honest here...I sometimes photoshop at least 2 catchlights into the eye just to make it "sparkle" more. The eyes are windows to the soul....I prefer to draw people's attention to them.

Levitron: May I ask what you are basing your observation on in terms of exposure. When I expose my subjects, I look for graying of the skin. That signals underexposure to me. In the above photographs except for the 2nd & 4th one the exposure to me is bang on. Those are a little shy. There is graying in his white shirt even in the brightest spot. I did use a lightmeter for the session, shots may differ slightly in exposure because of not enough time for recharge.

When you say lacking light, perhaps I'm not understanding what you are meaning.

I think so many photographers are straying to harder contrasts nowadays. The use of LCD monitors with 1500:1 ratios (and above) is skewing the contrast curve. You only have to look through the forum to see that there is a general migration to stronger contrast. I prefer not to.

dspirit79
06-27-2008, 08:38 AM
1 background
1 rimlight camera left and behind model
1 soft box right of camera

^- no fill light

and i disagree with the no more than 1 catchlight rule. theres been debates about this...

LOTS AND LOTS of shoots have beautiful catchlights with multiple lights such as high fashion glamor stuff with the reflector under chin. it actually catches the viewers attention more. of course not "more catchlight the better" its more like it takes skills and practice to make catchlights look good

Nope. Guess again! No prizes yet!

dspirit79
06-27-2008, 08:39 AM
^ Sorry for the brashness of the critique, but I hold you to a higher level because I know you have the knowledge, talent, and gear to do so :)

No such thing! A critique is a way to improve right?! No worries.

Levitron
06-27-2008, 01:00 PM
Levitron: May I ask what you are basing your observation on in terms of exposure. When I expose my subjects, I look for graying of the skin. That signals underexposure to me. In the above photographs except for the 2nd & 4th one the exposure to me is bang on. Those are a little shy. There is graying in his white shirt even in the brightest spot. I did use a lightmeter for the session, shots may differ slightly in exposure because of not enough time for recharge.

When you say lacking light, perhaps I'm not understanding what you are meaning.

I think so many photographers are straying to harder contrasts nowadays. The use of LCD monitors with 1500:1 ratios (and above) is skewing the contrast curve. You only have to look through the forum to see that there is a general migration to stronger contrast. I prefer not to.


Here's what I mean by underexposed. Maybe my terminology isn't tack on, but if you take a look at the histograms for your photographs they are weighted towards the left side. I have to admit that histograms aren't the be all and end all of examining the photographs, but at least it gives you and idea of what I mean. I know what you mean by a migration towards a stronger contrast, but in your pictures, the histograms should at least show some spikes in the places where it should....i.e. the subject's white shirt, etc. Right now it's all weighted towards the left. Where it DOES spike, it's very minimal. One good thing is that the white shirt is not blown out at all :) But you have your own style, and I respect that.

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/3640/jbrownheashot0039copygd7.jpg

http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8130/jbrownheashot0116copyup7.jpg

dspirit79
06-27-2008, 01:52 PM
The histogram in the 2nd photograph is close. Remember that data spike is in relation to the entire photograph. You would expect a small spike near the white area. Albeit, that 2nd photograph is slightly underexposed, but the amount of white is quite small in relation to the black where the spike is dominant.

on
06-27-2008, 06:12 PM
who cares, its a pretty photo thats all i know <3
back then with film (or even now for some of us) histogram and stuff ... nahhhh

imo, if it looks good, it hit the spot!

mc25
06-27-2008, 07:51 PM
http://img515.imageshack.us/img515/8130/jbrownheashot0116copyup7.jpg

I love this photo, its so well done and composed

ForbiddenX
06-28-2008, 11:46 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3281/2620648666_8d1c021aec.jpg

on
06-29-2008, 05:07 PM
reason i said the setup like that is because in 1st picture, rim light on model's right, and main light on his left to expose his face. as for background, that shows in the 2nd picture.

looking at the photos again, im guessing its rimlight/main light right of camera/ fill light bottom up shooting chin area to flatten image but only used in the first picture and maybe leather jacket picture.

i dont understand how you can do it without moving your lights at all though

dspirit79
06-29-2008, 06:35 PM
60" Umbrella splitting the light in front and behind subject.

50" Softbox to camera right at 45 degree to subject

Kick light right hand side behind subject with a feather off of the shoulder camera left.

Various effects achieved by using some or all of the lights at once.

on
06-29-2008, 06:50 PM
what is

60" umbrella splitting the light in front and behind subject?

i understand the 2 as main and rim light

Levitron
06-29-2008, 09:02 PM
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/9316/60inchumbrellayn0.jpg

Man I'm bored.

MikesJo
06-29-2008, 11:52 PM
^ You are so bored. WOW.

Haha.

dspirit79
06-30-2008, 08:51 AM
OMG... Levi... u are bored... but not so bored as to set it up and take a photo of the setup... hahahah

Levitron
06-30-2008, 11:11 AM
On a side note, I created those arrows in Photoshop and now I can't remove them whenever I draw a line. Anyone know/remember where that setting is?

I can't seem to find it at all.

Denny
07-07-2008, 12:07 AM
http://unlimitedimagehosting.com/is.php?i=645&img=20080703-IMG_31.jpghttp://unlimitedimagehosting.com/is.php?i=646&img=20080703-IMG_32.jpg
http://unlimitedimagehosting.com/is.php?i=647&img=234820080703-IMG_32.jpghttp://unlimitedimagehosting.com/is.php?i=648&img=20080703-IMG_33.jpg

MikesJo
07-07-2008, 05:47 AM
Denny, the top left one has too many harsh shadows for me. I think you would have done better with the pockets of light behind her w/o the flash.

Top Right: If her right arm wasn't hanging straight down she'd look skinnier (not that she isn't skinny already). Have it away from the body. Someone else once taught me this ;).

Bottom Left: Angle is a bit weird for me.

Bottom right: My favorite out of the bunch. Had you backed up a bit or zoomed out I think it would've been stronger. I'm not digging her eye make up.

Mananetwork
07-07-2008, 08:14 AM
On a side note, I created those arrows in Photoshop and now I can't remove them whenever I draw a line. Anyone know/remember where that setting is?

I can't seem to find it at all.

Are you using the line tool to make those arrows?
If so, you have to convert back from shapes to line

Levitron
07-07-2008, 08:43 AM
Are you using the line tool to make those arrows?
If so, you have to convert back from shapes to line

Thanks Tom, but I can't seem to find the function which does the change.

Ronin
07-07-2008, 09:04 AM
http://unlimitedimagehosting.com/is.php?i=648&img=20080703-IMG_33.jpg

Might just be me and my screen but there's a slight hot bit on the left side of her bottom lip that's just throwing it off for me.

Mananetwork
07-07-2008, 09:20 AM
Thanks Tom, but I can't seem to find the function which does the change.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p155/fingerbowl/shapestolines.jpg

Levitron
07-07-2008, 10:50 AM
Haha.....thanks Tom :D

I had a mind block on this for the longest time or something.

Denny
07-07-2008, 10:54 AM
Good suggestions Mike!

Denny, the top left one has too many harsh shadows for me. I think you would have done better with the pockets of light behind her w/o the flash.

Got some pictures in the pockets of light behind her but the light was even more harsh in those pictures. I think I should have used a reflector to lighten the shadows instead.


Top Right: If her right arm wasn't hanging straight down she'd look skinnier (not that she isn't skinny already). Have it away from the body. Someone else once taught me this ;).


Ya I read in a posing book that arms shouldn't be dangling down but I see it a lot in those modeling agency portfolios. It probably would have look better if she put it over her shoulder. What other things can you do with dangling arms?

I wish her legs were just a little bit closer too.


Bottom Left: Angle is a bit weird for me.

Bottom right: My favorite out of the bunch. Had you backed up a bit or zoomed out I think it would've been stronger. I'm not digging her eye make up.

Ya I let the makeup artist decide what type of makeup would look best. She did a great job with the photo shoot last time. The makeup is nice, but my photos weren't high fashion enough for it.


Might just be me and my screen but there's a slight hot bit on the left side of her bottom lip that's just throwing it off for me.
I think it's just the small image size that made it look weird. It's the reflection from her lip gloss.

on
07-07-2008, 03:32 PM
http://onproductions.net/testphoto/0033.jpg
flew to hk yesterday,already missing van. just 1 to keep me close to home.

Mananetwork
07-07-2008, 03:58 PM
http://onproductions.net/testphoto/0033.jpg
flew to hk yesterday,already missing van. just 1 to keep me close to home.

Why I don't like this photo.

1. Subject and Background land in the same gray area. Use more lights to separate next time
2. Her right eye is getting cut off by the light. You should have turned her head a bit more towards the light because I don't think you wanted any fill light from the right.
3. Expression is boring, eyes look dead
4. Just plain scary :rolleyes:

on
07-07-2008, 05:54 PM
Why I don't like this photo.

1. Subject and Background land in the same gray area. Use more lights to separate next time
2. Her right eye is getting cut off by the light. You should have turned her head a bit more towards the light because I don't think you wanted any fill light from the right.
3. Expression is boring, eyes look dead
4. Just plain scary :rolleyes:

lol thanks for the tips but i know what i'm doing and i got what i was looking for.

tweakynuts
07-07-2008, 07:33 PM
i have to say otherwise!

i think its a very cool photo, maybe it would look even nicer in black and white? i think the expression and lighting add to the mood of the photo.


ofcourse thats my own opinion though

Levitron
07-07-2008, 08:25 PM
lol thanks for the tips but i know what i'm doing and i got what i was looking for.

You must be looking for something then. Please enlighten us :)

dub.dub
07-07-2008, 10:14 PM
where's this pic? did he remove it?

w00tgasm
07-07-2008, 11:26 PM
Previous page dude.

MikesJo
07-08-2008, 01:47 AM
dub.dub is a bit slow, please forgive him.




:D.

w00tgasm
07-08-2008, 11:33 AM
lmfao... his host is down again...
so much for the 99.9% uptime guarantee

dspirit79
07-08-2008, 12:39 PM
Please don't kill me... you know who you are... :angel:

<PHOTO REMOVED>

K-Dub
07-08-2008, 12:43 PM
nom nom nom.
if she arched her back any more, that would have been great side nip view. :P
the frame/painting in back is distracting to me..dodood.

Mananetwork
07-08-2008, 12:59 PM
Please don't kill me... you know who you are... :angel:


AHHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA ~!
OOOLLLLAAAALLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! :thumbsup:

More Pictures or Ban!

dspirit79
07-08-2008, 01:14 PM
Oh man... don't want to be banned... okay... twist my arm...

(PS... couldn't remove the frame. Bolted to wall... and no other place to shoot it. Tried everything I could to use bokeh to diminish it.)

<PHOTO REMOVED>

You know Tom... he's going to kill me...

bikerx
07-08-2008, 03:20 PM
^ looks like shes staring down those ugly curtains :P

on
07-08-2008, 04:16 PM
You must be looking for something then. Please enlighten us :)

well lets put it this way. i'm here to share with you guys what I like and not necessarily what you guys like. I had that overall look in my head, and i went for it. simple as that :)

thnks for the replies.

Ronin
07-08-2008, 04:29 PM
Why I don't like this photo.

1. Subject and Background land in the same gray area. Use more lights to separate next time
2. Her right eye is getting cut off by the light. You should have turned her head a bit more towards the light because I don't think you wanted any fill light from the right.
3. Expression is boring, eyes look dead
4. Just plain scary :rolleyes:

I agree with Tom here. The photo could look quite...er...high fashion, shall we say...but the lighting on the right eye ruins it for me. I keep thinking she has a lazy eye. Light it up more or less...but not right there.

What sort of look were you going for here?

Ronin
07-08-2008, 04:30 PM
Please don't kill me... you know who you are... :angel:

http://www.boudoir.threesixtyphoto.com/KristinLingerie-0034.jpg

"Just got out of bed" hair = sexy.

Levitron
07-08-2008, 04:30 PM
well lets put it this way. i'm here to share with you guys what I like and not necessarily what you guys like. I had that overall look in my head, and i went for it. simple as that :)

thnks for the replies.

See, it wasn't painful to explain that "it was a look that you had in your head". :thumbsup:

However, keep in mind the moment you post up anything in a public forum like RS, its open to comments....and specifically in a photography forum like this, its open to critique.

We wouldn't be very helpful if we didn't tell you what we REALLY thought, right? ;)

Levitron
07-08-2008, 04:33 PM
"Just got out of bed" hair = sexy.

Its called "sex hair".

dub.dub
07-08-2008, 06:27 PM
Previous page dude.

dub.dub is a bit slow, please forgive him.




:D.

lmfao... his host is down again...
so much for the 99.9% uptime guarantee

exactly. it wasn't showing when i was viewing

dub.dub
07-08-2008, 06:31 PM
Oh man... don't want to be banned... okay... twist my arm...

(PS... couldn't remove the frame. Bolted to wall... and no other place to shoot it. Tried everything I could to use bokeh to diminish it.)

You know Tom... he's going to kill me...

the background on this one isn't that interesting. do you have any closer up ones?

he or she's going to kill u? :D i'm thinking the former... lol

MikesJo
07-08-2008, 10:21 PM
I think both of them would kill you Justin... I really wouldn't put those on here. That's one reason why I don't photograph her. Leave them on your own site!

That's it! When I come back I'm jacking your lights and PWs! (To photograph a car...) T minus two weeks.

Levitron
07-08-2008, 10:24 PM
Justin I like those ones...the lighting suits the feeling of the photos :D

For the one that you don't like the weird panel, perhaps try a tighter square crop instead?

MikesJo
07-08-2008, 10:36 PM
AHHAHAHAHAHHAAHHAHA ~!
OOOLLLLAAAALLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAA!! :thumbsup:

More Pictures or Ban!

BAN HIM!

I don't like those pics Justin. You usually shoot a lot better. Horrible pics. I think you should bin that whole set.

dub.dub
07-08-2008, 11:23 PM
I think the pics are good. Some with diff. backgrounds?

dspirit79
07-09-2008, 08:09 AM
BAN HIM!

I don't like those pics Justin. You usually shoot a lot better. Horrible pics. I think you should bin that whole set.


Rofl... good thing I only posted those ones then...

dspirit79
07-09-2008, 08:13 AM
I think both of them would kill you Justin... I really wouldn't put those on here. That's one reason why I don't photograph her. Leave them on your own site!

That's it! When I come back I'm jacking your lights and PWs! (To photograph a car...) T minus two weeks.


Really T-minus 2 weeks? SWEET... well except for the killing part. I'll take them down out of respect for you.

If the peeps who quoted the photos please remove the photo link that would be great.

Thanks.

dspirit79
07-09-2008, 08:20 AM
Justin I like those ones...the lighting suits the feeling of the photos :D

For the one that you don't like the weird panel, perhaps try a tighter square crop instead?

Thanks Levi,

Square crop would leave the image open. The purpose of the shoot was to try different lighting techniques. I managed to master all of the ones I wanted to apply, so that's good. The background and surroundings were okay, and making do with what I was stuck with it turned out alright. As I look at the image with the photo panel behind her, I like how the frame keeps your eyes to her head because it frames her and redirects your eyes back.

The shoot was definitely a lighting exercise. Flex my creativity and techniques for wedding season.

Denny
07-09-2008, 10:20 AM
Nice pics justin! I think the pic of her that you used as your desktop wallpaper is better though. The poster-sized print in your office is nice too.

Mananetwork
07-09-2008, 10:31 AM
Nice pics justin! I think the pic of her that you used as your desktop wallpaper is better though. The poster-sized print in your office is nice too.

BWAHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHAHAHAH ~!!! :haha: :haha:

MikesJo
07-09-2008, 11:06 AM
Nice pics justin! I think the pic of her that you used as your desktop wallpaper is better though. The poster-sized print in your office is nice too.

Denny has a sense of humor after all...

dspirit79
07-09-2008, 02:43 PM
think he's been hanging out with me too much... ;)

Denny
07-09-2008, 06:32 PM
Denny has a sense of humor after all...

What? I don't get it.... did I make a joke or something?

dub.dub
07-09-2008, 06:47 PM
Really T-minus 2 weeks? SWEET... well except for the killing part. I'll take them down out of respect for you.

If the peeps who quoted the photos please remove the photo link that would be great.

Thanks.

Removed so no one gets hurt. ;)

LoWeR-CaSe-VoWeLS
07-10-2008, 12:26 AM
I am not teh funnay.

dub.dub
07-10-2008, 07:42 PM
no

.. 10char..

mc25
07-10-2008, 07:45 PM
HOTTEST GiRL i KNOW

http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/852/img0428mp1.jpg

ive read 2 of your posts and all i have to say is...
wtf ? you are not funny.....

Mananetwork
07-10-2008, 11:59 PM
Here's a Family Portrait!
Tight room, everyones practically against the wall, hard to get any shots without going < 50mm. I'd love to re-shoot this with more room!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3133/2658247062_444e983886_o.jpg

dub.dub
07-11-2008, 12:30 AM
^ what's with the funky lighting? could things be moved around (temporary) like that lamp on the right?

MikesJo
07-11-2008, 01:07 AM
The whole family seems to have a good sense of style. Good looking as well.

bikerx
07-11-2008, 01:09 AM
shes hawt 10char

Ronin
07-11-2008, 05:07 AM
The whole family seems to have a good sense of style. Good looking as well.

Dude on the right, yes. Dude on the left is wearing a suit jacket that's a little too large for his shoulders and the jacket sleeves are cut too long. Show a little cuff, buddy! Jacket length is too long overall by a little. Looks like a kid wearing his dad's suit to prom.

IMO, when you're going with a portrait like this, everything needs to be either perfect or everything needs to be a little skewed and off. If one brother's fit is perfect, then the other has to as well...or vice versa. If dad's tie is lopsided...then mom should have something wrong with her outfit as well.

Just my opinion...I love the concept but I think the poses need a little work and the lighting is strange. Since the pretty girl in the picture is right in the middle, she needs to...go bigger with the pose.

Great idea, though, Tom. Love the concept, seriously.

604_Marc
07-11-2008, 07:12 AM
What's a good lens to use for shots like these? Any suggestions

Levitron
07-11-2008, 07:24 AM
What's a good lens to use for shots like these? Any suggestions

Like portraits in general?

85mm F1.2 if you're looking at Canon :D

Ronin
07-11-2008, 07:55 AM
A lot of used 1.2L at Map Camera for about $1300. I'm so tempted. Brand new 85 1.8's are $430, which is way higher than back home.

Mananetwork
07-11-2008, 08:01 AM
Here's a Family Portrait!
Tight room, everyones practically against the wall, hard to get any shots without going < 50mm. I'd love to re-shoot this with more room!

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3133/2658247062_444e983886_o.jpg

The lightings a bit weird because they are practically up against the wall. I was trying mixed lighting because I wanted a bit of that green oldish spill around, but not on the back wall, oh well.

Levitron
07-11-2008, 10:12 AM
Too bad there's glare on her glasses.

Ronin
07-11-2008, 10:44 AM
I am not teh funnay.

There are places on REVscene for your stupidity. This isn't one of them.

MikesJo
07-11-2008, 08:44 PM
Dude on the right, yes. Dude on the left is wearing a suit jacket that's a little too large for his shoulders and the jacket sleeves are cut too long. Show a little cuff, buddy! Jacket length is too long overall by a little. Looks like a kid wearing his dad's suit to prom.

IMO, when you're going with a portrait like this, everything needs to be either perfect or everything needs to be a little skewed and off. If one brother's fit is perfect, then the other has to as well...or vice versa. If dad's tie is lopsided...then mom should have something wrong with her outfit as well.

Just my opinion...I love the concept but I think the poses need a little work and the lighting is strange. Since the pretty girl in the picture is right in the middle, she needs to...go bigger with the pose.

Great idea, though, Tom. Love the concept, seriously.

Attention to details. I didn't know those points :).

Denny
07-12-2008, 03:36 AM
I think it's a very nice picture. The green spill works and it gives it a slight lomography color effect which is very suitable for that picture. It's a little awkward how the mom isn't holding anything and sitting so normally but it adds contrast to the other family members and makes people look at the picture longer.

Mananetwork
08-07-2008, 11:29 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3255/2742937777_600570299c_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3190/2742937395_1f8f71199a_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3023/2742937631_62b8614530_o.jpg

More on flickr

MikesJo
08-08-2008, 02:53 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3200/2743991850_9f3cbaa3bb_o.jpg

Denny
08-08-2008, 11:25 PM
http://unlimitedimagehosting.com/is.php?i=898&img=4880f8660ffc7.j.jpg
http://unlimitedimagehosting.com/is.php?i=899&img=48991d7cc6bc0.j.jpg
http://unlimitedimagehosting.com/is.php?i=897&img=487c10e1ea504.j.jpg

MikesJo
08-08-2008, 11:36 PM
Is the girl in pic #1 single? lol. pm me your msn denny, I don't have it.

Denny
08-08-2008, 11:49 PM
lol I'm telling your wife
PMed you :thumbsup:

dub.dub
08-08-2008, 11:50 PM
mike has a wife? wtf, haha

Denny
08-08-2008, 11:56 PM
he doesn't have a wife? omg

dub.dub
08-09-2008, 12:08 AM
he doesn't have a wife? omg

lol, did he say he had one or did u see him with someone? :haha:

dspirit79
08-09-2008, 08:41 AM
Wrong Mike Denny! hahaha

mc25
08-09-2008, 08:58 PM
http://unlimitedimagehosting.com/is.php?i=898&img=4880f8660ffc7.j.jpg
http://unlimitedimagehosting.com/is.php?i=899&img=48991d7cc6bc0.j.jpg
http://unlimitedimagehosting.com/is.php?i=897&img=487c10e1ea504.j.jpg

I find there is way to much shine on their skin, and they almost glow...maybe its just to over exposed? Im not sure, but to me, i dont like it, it makes it look almost pastel like. Composition is good though

K-Dub
08-09-2008, 10:08 PM
http://unlimitedimagehosting.com/is.php?i=898&img=4880f8660ffc7.j.jpg


She looks like a girl I saw at Fabric yesterday.

MikesJo
08-09-2008, 10:39 PM
What's Fabric?

bikerx
08-09-2008, 10:43 PM
some club that all the kool kids go to....:willnill:

MikesJo
08-09-2008, 10:55 PM
As you can see, I'm not cool bikerx. Haha.

dub.dub
08-16-2008, 01:42 AM
http://www3.telus.net/peazs/aug08/IMG_1845_edit_small.jpg

77civic1200
09-11-2008, 06:26 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3190/2847923916_59105492e9_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3018/2831759089_ffe0b21aa3_o.jpg

MikesJo
09-11-2008, 07:49 AM
^ I like it!

dspirit79
09-11-2008, 09:35 AM
Underexposed . Skin is still grey and no distinct white point.

77civic1200
09-11-2008, 04:48 PM
Hmm I see what you mean, don't know why I didn't notice that last night, too sleepy I guess.

I'm leaving the second pic as is, I like it like that, I think it loses any mood if I brighten it up. Does this help the first pic though?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3210/2849862932_e152b281cc_o.jpg

dspirit79
09-11-2008, 07:30 PM
You can achieve the same effect next time Kyle by increasing the power off of the light in the back and having it flagged so it doesn't hit the subject so much.

The fill is up to you to keep. You just need to have a whitepoint in that particular picture.

Keep trying and you'll get it. Good attempt!

baldy
09-11-2008, 08:16 PM
lol I'm telling your wife
PMed you :thumbsup:

wrong mike

:5shots:

77civic1200
09-11-2008, 10:26 PM
I wish I had taken a set up shot to show you just how ghetto the set up was. I was only really playing around trying the smoke shot with my buddy, when she decided she wanted to try a couple headshots (she does extra work in movies) and gave me about 2 mins to shoot before she got bored. I was shooting across a bed from them, one light stand on the bed on the right, the other was stuffed into the doorway from the bathroom. I could barely move, much less get my lights into different positions.

I've demanded a reshoot with her, with a longer time allowance, hopefully soon.

dspirit79
09-11-2008, 10:32 PM
No worries Kyle,

I've worked in tough situations too. Learning to be quick and effective is important. I once had an appointment with a business executive that literally had only a couple minutes to shoot. In a 5 minute window of time I put up my lights took a light reading and snapped 8 photographs. Then he was rushed out to a meeting. Happens all the time.

Through practice and repetition like you are doing it will increase your ability to see and perform under stressful situations. I give you props for continually trying!

77civic1200
09-11-2008, 11:43 PM
Thanks! I'd try more often if my friends weren't so afraid of me lol

What are you using for a light meter? I hate the guess and check that I am doing, its so hard to tell if its right on the back lcd.

dspirit79
09-12-2008, 08:58 AM
I use a Minolta VI Lightmeter

davidhtam
09-15-2008, 09:25 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3106/2862099796_8ed6ed3d80.jpg?v=0

playing w/ my new lights

77civic1200
10-01-2008, 06:09 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3114/2904263314_e4f7647575_o.jpg

Playing around with Toms camera last night, could only get my dad to stand in

Gopher
10-11-2008, 06:22 PM
Hey Kyle, could you detail the lighting you used in your last 3 posts?

Gopher
10-11-2008, 06:22 PM
err, last 4 posts...

phatpower
10-11-2008, 06:51 PM
Looking good David lights catch your eyes lol :)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3106/2862099796_8ed6ed3d80.jpg?v=0

playing w/ my new lights

Atlantis
10-11-2008, 09:42 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3042/2852848412_e520c0397f_b.jpg

-ed

Senna4ever
10-12-2008, 12:27 AM
^^^ you might need to tone down the hotspots on her nose and left cheek.

Mananetwork
10-12-2008, 09:35 PM
You should of told her to move her hair, it's out of focus and pretty distracting. I keep looking at it instead of the eyes

Senna4ever
10-13-2008, 12:01 AM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Photos%20II/DSC03732.jpg

77civic1200
10-13-2008, 07:38 AM
Hey Kyle, could you detail the lighting you used in your last 3 posts?

First 2 were shot with a vivitar 285hv on stand camera right, with a shoot through umbrella half covered so it wouldn't put even more light on the background (too cramped to move them away from background). Second 285hv on a stand camera left, almost even with the subject with a shoot through umbrella doing double duty as a background light and a rim light. Spill on subject was too bright, but I couldn't tell till I got home :(

3rd shot (B+W) was one flash, camera right and high up, pretty close to his head to give a larger softer light effect, with a reflector to his left to fill in face a little. The reflector is a $2 silver car windshield visor I bought in some richmond mall, yay for ghetto lighting!

Gopher
10-14-2008, 06:50 PM
Bought some nice curtains to use as backdrops, and some more hotlights, and several bulbs varying in wattage from 15 up to 150... Used my roommate as a subject.

PP: USM, Resize for web.

Comments?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3232/2942754221_f7d4ded995_o.jpg

Senna4ever
10-14-2008, 06:54 PM
that band of shadow down the right part of his face is distracting....need fill there. His hair is also blending into the background, so you need a hairlight or a spot on the BG.

davidhtam
10-16-2008, 09:06 PM
practicing my lighting :)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3031/2948882982_8315868cbd.jpg?v=0

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3238/2948030427_cf813c7992.jpg?v=0

w/ or w/ out the rim light?

i need a new model...

Bonjour43MA
10-16-2008, 09:23 PM
blue steel

Gopher
10-17-2008, 02:03 AM
I think with the hair light is better,but you need a better backdrop that that.

davidhtam
10-17-2008, 04:32 AM
agreed

I picked up my light stands today. Waiting for my umbrella.

That was taken w/ a home made beauty dish. Next on the list is some seamless paper and something to hold it up.

g/rex
10-22-2008, 08:54 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3206/2966281054_57e5fc14c1_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3228/2965434167_0ecaa8fe2c_b.jpg

[azn angel]
10-24-2008, 05:37 AM
Holy Crap! It's amazing to see all the skills growing around the forum, KUDOS!

justin, that shot killed me hahhaa

and tomasz, that family shot is fuckin phenomenal as it is!

now, i need some tips by the pros.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3252/2969434460_7d4db893e9.jpg

dspirit79
10-24-2008, 09:35 AM
I get to nit pick at it. Your lighting is just a hair off from rembrandt on her face and has a small highlight near her nose that's distracting.

Pose is clean and relaxed. The black near her left foot is a little distracting clone out maybe?

Same with the speck near her right foot.

Otherwise I'd say pretty clean image!

dspirit79
10-24-2008, 09:36 AM
http://www.threesixtyphoto.com/TSP%20Wedding%20Gallery/Portraits%202/RossM0016.jpg

dspirit79
10-24-2008, 09:39 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3206/2966281054_57e5fc14c1_b.jpg
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3228/2965434167_0ecaa8fe2c_b.jpg

Greg,

need a little bit more fill under the brow on the 2nd image and to give a slight lift to the shadow on his right side (photo left).

[azn angel]
10-24-2008, 06:33 PM
thanks for the awesome feedback justin.

davidhtam
10-27-2008, 08:13 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3140/2977668461_61bf61d5f7.jpg?v=0

too much shadow under the chin?

Senna4ever
10-27-2008, 06:29 PM
I think the shadow is fine...my nitpick would the the wrinkles visible in the background cloth. Maybe move the subject away from the background more.

Gopher
10-27-2008, 08:17 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3207/2980664170_d88899178e_o.jpg

PP: Hue (for my crappy WB), Desat, USM, Burn highlights in hair, Save for web

dspirit79
10-27-2008, 09:22 PM
I would have put a piece of tin foil or white paper to her left eye area just to get a bit of a highlight in her eyes.

Len, what are you using to edit photos? Lightroom? PS?

Gopher
10-27-2008, 10:21 PM
I do all my work in PS, and actually I'm just using the small jpegs coming out of the camera at this point, I messed up my Camera Ready plugin, lol.

I hadn't really noticed how dark that left eye actually was... maybe I should reshoot that one

Mananetwork
11-03-2008, 08:56 PM
Fun Family Portraits


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3051/3001257905_b8ceb4eea5_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/3001261525_bc9d9c3d64_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3072/3001258715_7d0d4c653a_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3252/3001259803_8b06076241_o.jpg


More on flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mananetwork/)

dspirit79
11-04-2008, 09:08 AM
Love the first and last one Tom!

If possible I think lowering the brightness of the leaves in the foreground a bit will help the image more. Right now my eyes are fighting between the family and the brightspot

Mananetwork
11-04-2008, 10:54 AM
I love working with RAW, but once it exports all the contrasts and colours fade.
Second looks a bit hot too, i'll check that later

keitaro
11-04-2008, 04:21 PM
Fun Family Portraits


http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3051/3001257905_b8ceb4eea5_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3154/3001261525_bc9d9c3d64_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3072/3001258715_7d0d4c653a_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3252/3001259803_8b06076241_o.jpg


More on flickr (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mananetwork/)

Great set! How do you set the atmosphere to get such type shots? Where they this playful from the start?

Mananetwork
11-05-2008, 01:56 PM
^Thanks keitaro

Most of the time I asked them to just get warmed up with the kids.. Kick the leave, get them to play with either, do whatever they like, while I stand away and shoot from a distance. I try to make sure I place myself in the right place though, or i'd miss the pictures.

After 20 minutes of random play, I give them a set, tell them what to do and how to interact with the kids, reminding them I'm not here.

I made sure to capture all that's needed. Together as a family, just kids, individuals, walking pictures, playful pictures, staged, ect.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3198/3001258445_7383bedb4a_o.jpg

Bonjour43MA
11-05-2008, 05:52 PM
nice shots Tom!

the 2nd shot stands out because the colors seem faded and may be a bit too bright.

dub.dub
11-05-2008, 08:34 PM
yea, i like #1 and 4 the most... :)

keitaro
11-06-2008, 03:31 PM
^Thanks keitaro

Most of the time I asked them to just get warmed up with the kids.. Kick the leave, get them to play with either, do whatever they like, while I stand away and shoot from a distance. I try to make sure I place myself in the right place though, or i'd miss the pictures.

After 20 minutes of random play, I give them a set, tell them what to do and how to interact with the kids, reminding them I'm not here.

I made sure to capture all that's needed. Together as a family, just kids, individuals, walking pictures, playful pictures, staged, ect.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3198/3001258445_7383bedb4a_o.jpg

sounds simple enough, yet it probably takes experience to know where to stand and analyze the situation to get such good shots...

props to all the portrait shooters!

g/rex
11-09-2008, 08:29 AM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3214/3011748668_659f6694dc.jpg
c&c on this pls. just opened up studio and doing some practice. i know her skin is a bit smooth but other than that hows the picture all in all?

Senna4ever
11-09-2008, 10:08 AM
I think she's well lit, but you need to separate her black top and hair from the black background. Try using a snoot and light the background and use a hair light.

davidhtam
11-09-2008, 10:39 AM
what kind of background were you using g/rex?

g/rex
11-09-2008, 11:28 AM
the background was just a black canvas curtain. i was just testing out if my space was big enough. I just got a my black seemless and i'll be posting a bunch of pics in the coming weeks.

senna_ thanks for the tip...ill try that next time

Senna4ever
11-09-2008, 04:08 PM
Of course, she can change the colour of her top if you want to keep the black background. That way you'd just need a hairlight.

Matsuda
11-09-2008, 06:18 PM
Had a portraiture seminar today, what was nice is they provided models

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3202/3017347617_d628425bb4.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3283/3017346651_be080185cf.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3169/3017347113_0d0d343e26.jpg

Moratorium
11-09-2008, 08:45 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3214/3011748668_659f6694dc.jpg
c&c on this pls. just opened up studio and doing some practice. i know her skin is a bit smooth but other than that hows the picture all in all?

Either change the background or add a couple rim/hair lights to accent her hair, because her head just disappears into the background. Same with the sweater but theres a subtle difference in color there.

EDIT: oh wow senna already said that. lol i should read before i post.

g/rex
11-19-2008, 10:10 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3288/3045525502_d5c57f0f04_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3218/3045525450_5c4cc192c8_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3030/3045525382_de43b779c7_o.jpg

dspirit79
11-20-2008, 12:48 AM
Greg,
Third picture Kettle bell is too hot and so is his hand. A tiny bit of separating from the shorts and the shadow on his leg would be nice.

First picture, I find his hair to hot

ColinK
11-20-2008, 02:29 PM
i can't believe I've never seen this thread before!

I love working with RAW, but once it exports all the contrasts and colours fade.

do you have it set to sRGB?

Senna4ever
11-21-2008, 12:05 AM
do you have it set to sRGB?
That's only part of it. It also depends on whether you've assigned a profile or converted to a profile, saved in Windows or Mac RGB, and your output gamma.

davidhtam
11-21-2008, 08:23 AM
i usually change the color mode to lab color (read it in a book somewhere). It really brightens up the colors and makes them more vibrant.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3143/2859159499_4ea61591b0.jpg?v=0
Lab Color

VS

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3050/3048561642_83cfdcc497.jpg?v=0
Regular RGB color

Nintensity
11-21-2008, 09:17 AM
Taken with my temporary D40 until my XSi on boxing day =)
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v353/174/35/512486424/n512486424_1932201_1988.jpg
says "Nintensity" on the hood.

btw, my face isn't dirty, its just the saturation was lowered, and clarity/sharpness was taken a notch up.

Nintensity
11-21-2008, 09:20 AM
i usually change the color mode to lab color (read it in a book somewhere). It really brightens up the colors and makes them more vibrant.



yeah, but if you look at the yellow leaves in the background (RGB), it appears to have a redish tone color, where you're looking more of a saturated vibrant yellow instead. (same goes for the baby's top of the head..)
otherwise, looks great!

davidhtam
11-21-2008, 12:00 PM
yeah, but if you look at the yellow leaves in the background (RGB), it appears to have a redish tone color, where you're looking more of a saturated vibrant yellow instead. (same goes for the baby's top of the head..)
otherwise, looks great!

Yeah changing to lab color can really over saturate the yellows and reds so i have to do some readjusting after switching.

I'm not sure if it's supposed to do that though.. anyone else use lab color?

Mananetwork
05-15-2009, 09:49 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2093/3534663159_98394abff1.jpg

Mananetwork
05-15-2009, 09:53 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2018/3534663221_9f98c81ff0.jpg

Senna4ever
05-16-2009, 12:16 AM
Yeah changing to lab color can really over saturate the yellows and reds so i have to do some readjusting after switching.

I'm not sure if it's supposed to do that though.. anyone else use lab color?

If you're printing, CMYK all the way. Web use only, use sRGB.

Matsuda
05-16-2009, 10:58 PM
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3391/3537519885_fbc9d9efab.jpg

ok not much of a portrait

g/rex
05-17-2009, 06:29 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2370/3541304746_4fa453c1a0.jpg

did a couple close up portrait shots of my gf... i liked how this one turned out...

Senna4ever
05-17-2009, 06:33 PM
I kinda wish you didn't chop off her chin, but she has very distinctive eyes. Are those contacts?

g/rex
05-17-2009, 06:37 PM
I kinda wish you didn't chop off her chin, but she has very distinctive eyes. Are those contacts?

I was looking at that too... i have another shot where i didn't cut it off, but i think this one still looks better, maybe a quarter inch up or down would've done a huge difference.. i think it was cut off at the wrong place... and her eyes are done through post processing... she has light brown eyes but i enhanced it a bit more and desaturated her skin a bit too...