[GoateeMe]

hair loss runs in my family i'm in my 20's but i've noticed the reseeding hairline and the thinning of my hair any suggestions?

[ecchiecchi]

I have the same problem. :/ Ideas?

[woozzle]

rogaine?

10-ijuhvdi

[ajei]

try this ??? HairLoss is Reversible (http://www.hairloss-reversible.com/my_approach.htm)
tell us if it works

[Jassanova]

I've used rogaine since my hair is thinning, and it works pretty well. Couple it with Neoxin shampoo and you're good to go.

Just remember it takes like 4-6 weeks before you see any noticable results and you have to use it everyday, twice a day. I stopped using it for like 3-4 months and my hair started thinning out again. Rogaine will thicken your hair a bit, but more importantly will protect what you currently have and make sure it does not thin anymore.

The other option is propecia pills, but for the side effects (increased heart disease etc) I don't think it's personally worth it.

[bossxx]

This guy I know spent 15k on transplanting hair from the back of his head to the front. He is in his mid 20's. Dunno if this is the most cost effective solution tho..

[dinamix]

Ask ur doc about proscar. It works

[yameen]

i'm using nioxin shampoo and conditioner. i just got on it a week ago but i hear superb comments about this product. look it up.

[StylinRed]

Ask ur doc about proscar. It works

proscar 1/4 tablets work for stopping hair loss, they're supposed to perscribe Propecia 1mg tab, they're essentially the same thing but Propecia seems works better according to studies.

u can try using minoxidil 5% as well (you cant get in Canada without a perscription but you can get it over the counter in the states) to promote hair growth.

other treatments that may help (but less than those listed above) are cortisone injections into your scalp and UV light therapy to try and promote growth

however you should get checked up, it might just be a hormone imbalance or even stress

[ajei]

shit....you guys know alot about this stuff.

[monster killer]

Just shave your head bald,women love guys with bald heads.

[Aetios]

Thats only if you look good bald, some guys can't pull it off.

[GoateeMe]

thanks guys ive always been a cap person but it gets hard when i go out at night to a fancy dinner and i think the cap is making it worse

[4444]

Just shave your head bald,women love guys with bald heads.

dudes with plugs look like dudes with plugs, so i agree with the above, cut it really short/bald - there's no shame in going bald, it'll happen to most of us at some point, mine's thin at 25, i keep it short, looks just fine

[quasi]

Started losing my hair early 20's, I'm early 30's now. I never took any proactive solutions I just shave my head now. I buzz it every couple weeks. I know theres things you can do but in all honesty I don't really care. I mean sure I'd love to have a full head of hair again but I'd rather spend my energy worrying about things I can control.

[Shun Izaki]

The cap might be your problem, I knew tons of guys in highschool who wore a cap all day long, and they have receeding hairlines...

[Presto]

The cap could be the problem. I've shunned caps since highschool because I was told (probably by mom) that the cap is suffocating my scalp.

My hair gets noticeable greasy pretty quick. I tend to wash my hair daily, and i think that helps. I think it's more of the fact that when I wash my hair, my scalp gets a half decent massage that keeps blood circulation going. My dad's side of the family is all bald. My uncles, my grandfather, even my aunt... she wears a wig. I'm pushing 30, and there are no signs of recession. Considering my family tree, I think that's a good sign.

[monster killer]

The cap might be your problem, I knew tons of guys in highschool who wore a cap all day long, and they have receeding hairlines...

Wrong.

I started wearing a cap since I was in my early teens(I'm in my early thirties now)and all through highschool,all day everyday,even now I still wear a cap everyday,I have no receeding hairlines or noticed my hair being any thinner.A cap is my "trademark",everyone that knows me,they rarely see me without a cap on,unless the occasion calls for me to not wear one.

Hair loss is a genetic thing,it plays a big part on how long you will have hair for during the course of your life.

[SizzleChest]

Wrong.

I started wearing a cap since I was in my early teens(I'm in my early thirties now)and all through highschool,all day everyday,even now I still wear a cap everyday,I have no receeding hairlines or noticed my hair being any thinner.A cap is my "trademark",everyone that knows me,they rarely see me without a cap on,unless the occasion calls for me to not wear one.

Hair loss is a genetic thing,it plays a big part on how long you will have hair for during the course of your life.

yep. baldness is pre-programmed before you're even born. i've had thin hair all my life and a hair line that looks like it's receding since my early teens. the hairline has gone back slightly but i'm in my late 20s now and i chuckle to myself when i see people that used to bug me about going bald who are now worse off than i am.

[Melissa1010]

My dad started to lose his hair when he was in his 20's. His dad, brother, grandparents.. ALL bald. He read in some book that rubbing Polysorbate 80 on your hair 5-10 mins before you shower stops baldness. He tried it, and it worked. His hair stopped falling out and some of it grew back. He's now 58 years old with a full head of hair. My boyfriend bought a bottle because his was also starting to fall out, his has also stopped.

It's worth a shot! The bottles are only like $10 and they last a year.

[tool001]

My dad started to lose his hair when he was in his 20's. His dad, brother, grandparents.. ALL bald. He read in some book that rubbing Polysorbate 80 on your hair 5-10 mins before you shower stops baldness. He tried it, and it worked. His hair stopped falling out and some of it grew back. He's now 58 years old with a full head of hair. My boyfriend bought a bottle because his was also starting to fall out, his has also stopped.

It's worth a shot! The bottles are only like $10 and they last a year.


where can u buy.. Polysorbate 80

[GoateeMe]

where can u buy.. Polysorbate 80

ya thats wut i wanna know

[Melissa1010]

My dad has to order it from the states...
I will get more information from him tonight.

[Aetios]

becareful guys, always do your research before you procede with a treatment. It may have worked fine for Melissa1010's dad, but you may have a different reaction to it and it might not go so smoothly.


"Polysorbate 80 (also known as tween 80) is a stabilizer used in a wide variety of products including ice cream, milk products, vitamin tablets, lotions and creams and medical products like vaccines and anti-cancer medications.

It is toxic and should not be eaten, drunk, put on the skin or injected.

According to Annals of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology, Volume 95, Number 6, December 2005 , pp. 593-599(7), "it is of current relevance as a 'hidden' inductor of anaphylactoid reactions", and "Polysorbate 80 was identified as the causative agent for the anaphylactoid reaction of nonimmunologic origin in the patient. Conclusions: Polysorbate 80 is a ubiquitously used solubilizing agent that can cause severe nonimmunologic anaphylactoid reactions.'"

[Melissa1010]

^ for sure! You definitely have to be careful. My boyfriend has been using it for a couple of months as well as he hasn't experienced any negative issues/side effects.

My dad orders his online through a health club he's with. I know puritan's pride sells it as well, hell, lots of places sell it :)

Like 3zee said, just research it. It's worth a try, and it might work, but everyone is different.

[ecchiecchi]

Just had a nightmare about getting a huge ass bald spot on my head. I guess I'm subconsciously paranoid about losing hair.

[Hondaracer]

proscar, it's good shit

[SizzleChest]

"Polysorbate 80 (also known as tween 80) is a stabilizer used in a wide variety of products including ice cream, milk products, vitamin tablets, lotions and creams and medical products like vaccines and anti-cancer medications.

It is toxic and should not be eaten, drunk, put on the skin or injected.

soooo, ice cream is poison?

[hamsup]

i heard you can use mane and tail... its a horse shampoo that helps humans grow hair...

[GoateeMe]

wut has others been doing with this problem? once heard that cosentrated shampoo makes hair fallout and i should lather in my hand first.

[Aetios]

soooo, ice cream is poison?


I'm going to let you figure this one out on your own SizzleyChest.

[OffSea]

Maybe some of this hairloss could be stress-related?

[GoateeMe]

my life isnt that stressful i dunno man but its embarrasing and with this skorching heat wearing a hat is bad man

[yameen]

look up nioxin, i've been using the conditioner and shampoo for awhile. definitely notice thickening of the hair even though i'm still losing hair. type nioxin in google and check out their products. it says, 9/10 work.

[Hondaracer]

u guys using Nioxin are u using the #2 program or w/e the 3 bottles?

i bought the one with the shampoo, revitilizer, and the foam for scalp, but there's no exact instructions on it? i just use the shampoo, then the revitilzer once a day, i havent began using the foam yet because i dont want to start using it if it's somthing i'll have to continue from here on in..

also if i do start using the foam, u guys think it's ok to use at night when im sleeping?

[yameen]

i only bought the shampoo and conditioner (cleanser and therapy). supposedly i'm suppose to use both everyday but i use the conditioner about 3 times a week since the conditioner is used last and it makes my hair oily faster. i'm using system 1 because the stylist said i don't need system 2 when i myself think system 2 is good. for all you people out there losing hair, make sure you have enough vitamins to keep your hair strong, which is what i'm doing everyday now. i take multivitamin pills.

[Girl]

My boss recently sent us an email on the special properties of Honey and apparently it's believed that a concoction of alcohol and honey (in small amounts...of course) will promote hair growth.

Someone try it out and report back! :D

[ecchiecchi]

Girl! Try It!

[Girl]

^But I have hair. Lots of it!

[tool001]

where can u buy.. Polysorbate 80

got it from purinas pride or something. got 2 bottles. tried it, no side effect so far.

also got biotin caps. helps permote hair growth..

[waddy41]

anyone know about losing hair on just one side?

i'm only thinning on the right side......so strange

[What_the?]

Proscar and Propecia are the same thing (finasteride)... One typically used for hair loss, one for reducing prostate enlargement... Both are due to testosterone, and the medication essentially affects and enzyme resulting in the reduction of the conversion of testosterone to its active form...

There are alot of people who cut proscar 5mg tabs into quarters and take 1/4 of a tablet instead of the propecia 1mg tablets, and alot of patients have given me pretty good feedback about it...

Rogaine 2% is available over the counter and people have had decent results as well... probably not as great as the proscar/propecia, but some people don't like the idea of taking a medication... Also, if you have a third party insurance plan, they will most likely not cover over the counter products like rogaine, but will likely cover proscar tablets.

up to you

[Hondaracer]

to be honest I recomend proscar to anyone and everyone with thinning hair, i've been using it for probably 2 years now, and just recently i've been using Nioxin, my hair is seriously looking awsome, it no longer looks "thinning" besides when i wear a hat and it gets matted down etc.

other then that it looks great!

[GoateeMe]

anything else?

[Hondaracer]

in the last 2 posts everything that actually "works" has been posted, what else are you looking for?...

[silver5]

where can you buy Neoxim shampoo?

[waddy41]

u can buy it off me =) i have a brand new bottle with receipt from the states...asking $15

[Tapioca]

In addition to prescription drugs, you could always look into herbal/natural supplements. You'll find that supplements used to ward off prostate cancer are linked to hair growth/retention as well.

I contemplated taking Proscar for a while too, but the negative thing about these meds is that once you start, you have to take them for the rest of your life to retain your hair. For most people, health benefits specifically do not cover meds for male-pattern baldness. I know that eventually I'll need to do a Lex Luthor, but for now, I'll stick with using a number #2 razor for the next several years. (Fortunately, I have the right shape for a bald head.)

[Gnomes]

Check this out - dateline review of different hairloss treatments:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThL7ZgFIgtc (part1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JDFSxcTDyg (part2)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ0AaoVttO4 (part3)

Mind you these are mid 30's-50 year old men who did the trial. Fantastic results from a laser comb and pretty cheap comparatively ($700 one time fee)

Where do people get their rogaine supply? Seems pretty expensive from london drugs ($50). I wonder how legit will ebay stuff be.

[BNR32_Coupe]

instead of a laser comb, they should make a laser hat. that way, you get more laser shining on your hair, which would make it grow longer faster, while you're concealing your bald head!

_____________
The above post is copyright 2009 bnr32_coupe, patent pending, all rights reserved

[ctsport]

My hair started thinning last year shortly after I started working in Surrey LOL. (I've been helping my dad part-time @ our family business which is located in Delta for many years and its been mostly a positive experience, so I thought I'd try to help out on the Surrey side..BIG mistake!). It was the worst year of my life! (work-wise) After a while I couldn't take it anymore and quit; almost immediately my hair loss stopped. My point is that if you're experiencing hair loss, avoid stressful situations and your hair loss may naturally stop. Also, Surrey is the shit-hole so avoid it like the plague! :D

[SizzleChest]

instead of a laser comb, they should make a laser hat. that way, you get more laser shining on your hair, which would make it grow longer faster, while you're concealing your bald head!
...and the massive brain tumor brought on by said hat. but hey, you'll have a full head of hair to look good for your funeral.

[Harvey Specter]

Honestly if you're going bald try to go short or shave your head. I know it's tough and going short doesn't look good on some guys but not much else you can do.

I'm turning 29 in a few months, still have hair but i'm starting to notice tiny patches on top of my head. The only good news is I've had short hair (number 1 or 2 clip) for the last 10 years so going bald isn't going to be a major shock.

[Girl]

^short/crew cuts won't make the receeding hairline go away. As for bald, some guys just don't look good bald.

[ctsport]

^short/crew cuts won't make the receeding hairline go away. As for bald, some guys just don't look good bald.

Its true that some guys don't look great bald but its still much better than guys that are bald on the top and have hair on the sides! :D

[Harvey Specter]

^short/crew cuts won't make the receeding hairline go away. As for bald, some guys just don't look good bald.

That's true. My hairline is strong, just noticing bald spots on top.

[blackjack101]

just wondering if anyone has used zulvera or knows anything about it? i would like hair regrowth.

so far all i know is that proscar and rogaine are what seems to be successful.

[A-Dev]

I was told by my very experienced hair dresser a couple months ago. that you should always wash and condition your hair is cool/colder water.

the hair follicles(sp?) are like pores with hot and warmer temps they open up and with cold and cooler temps they close up.

You'll be less likely to lose hair while washing it out. just like shaving, hot to open the skin before the shave, cold to close it up after.

im not sure if this is 100% true.. but it makes sense.

[swagdeep]

anyone hurd of biothera? is it legit?

[Girl]

That's true. My hairline is strong, just noticing bald spots on top.

spray paint :D



I know according to Traditional Chinese Medicine, a thinning of hair is derived from weak kidneys or something about the kidneys.

[ilvtofu]

I'm only 16 and for an azn i really don't have much hair,
It used to fall out more when I left it long, but If i go for frequent cuts, it's okay
My hairline hasn't really receded much over the last i'd say 3 years, but its way up there...
Neone know if you stop using these products, rogaine, proscar, etc, what happens? does it just revert back to before or do you have to moderate it?

I work in the kitchen and the heat from outdoors + heat from kitchen + hat, cant be good for my hair...

[jackmeister]

spray paint :D



I know according to Traditional Chinese Medicine, a thinning of hair is derived from weak kidneys or something about the kidneys.

You seem to know a lot about chinese medicine

[Hondaracer]

spray paint :D



I know according to Traditional Chinese Medicine, a thinning of hair is derived from weak kidneys or something about the kidneys.

while science has proven that male pattern baldness and many other forms including hair loss from stress is caused by (DHT) which is why prescribed medicines such as proscar etc. are "blockers" which almost everyone who takes them seems to have some level of success.

the whole "chinese medicine" thing on revscene is very annoying and is mostly myths and superstition.

[waddy41]

It's also about diet....because your food eventually turn into your hair...

my friend notices this when he eats his mom's food when she's in town to cook for him, he experiences less hair loss..
when she leaves and he starts mostly eating out...his hair loss increases

[Geenius]

dont fight it....its inevitable

[avinayyar]

Any Vancouver dermatologist you guys can recommend? I have been on Minocycline antibiotic for a month(for Acne) and I think im losing hair.

[tool001]

update. i tried out laser comb , and even with off and on usage, have been seening ok results, i guess i need to use more freq. to get better results. that said , i have been taking proscar also now

[Amuse]

sleep earlier

[crpl_hicks]

Hey everyone,

Instead of boring you with all the details in a nutshell, Biothera, @ least in Edmonton is a SCAM. I would think almost any company using a laser treatment system doersn't work, based on my experience & what others say. Of course they promise you @ the inital meeting that you will get great results, but in the end what they think is positive & what you will say is positive are not the same.

DO NOT fall for it!!!! Believe all the negative stuff you read. I filed for a refund and surprise I didn't get it. In fact the letter they sent was almost accussing me of "how dare you ask for a refund" you signed the contract, you agreed to it...blah blah blah.

If anything positive can come out of my experience, it's that I can persuade you NOT to do it! there is no guarantee, except that you will be dissapointed!

Please DO NOT sign up!

[crpl_hicks]

Biothera uses a low light laser regrowth "treatment" plan where you use "special" topical lotion, shampoo, go for weekly 20min laser sessions and use a hand held laser comb, all over the period of 1 year.

Like I said.....it's a scam, especially how they treat you after there are little or no results. They make it out that it's your fault it didn't work as well as they initially say, and then show some photos to prove you have enough "increased density" to NOT refund you any money from their satisfaction guarenteed program. Any picture from different angles @ different times will show different things.

It all sounds "scientifically" possible, but in the end it's a waist of your money.

AVOID BIOTHERA or any clinic promoting hair growth with lasers!!

[keitaro]

who sells nioxin shampoo + condition the cheepest in Vancouver, and how much is it?

Is anyone taking Biotin supplements?

I think I am starting to loose hair. I noticed while shampooing that there were like 15 stands of hair in my hands. I am not sure if I was able to see scalp before, but there is some showing around the crown area. I do also have an itchy scalp. Even though i use non itch shampoo. Going to probably see my fam. dr. and see what he says.

[miky]

I used Propecia/Proscar for around 2.5 years. And the changes was very significant. My hair was thicker, also the volume increased by alot. Nontheless, it takes about 3-5 months to notice the changes. If you want to try this out, you will need to ask the doctor for Proscar for your prescription. Proscar is 1/4 of the cost of Propecia. And it's exactly the same thing however you cut your own tablets. Nevertheless, after taking it long term, I was able to notice the weaker sex drive. When my gf came back from korea, I was stopping proscar in order to *Perform* better. I also tried mindoxdil and herbal medicine such as shenmin. The money just went down the drain : (
I do use Nioxin both shampoo and conditioner. The effect is to thicken your hair, it does reduce hair loss. So that is a good product. I am 23, my dad's bald, my grandpa (Mom's side) was also bald too. Im gradually getting there, and I do take my appearences very seriously. I will be working hard to save up for a hair implant before Im 30.
For those of you have gone through a hair transplant please leave us a msg.

[Gnomes]

After finding out my bluecross doesnt cover propecia (found out the hard way), I decided to stop taking them (still have 1 month supply). 3 months cost $200. 1 year = 800. I am 27 years old and dont want to be bald until I am at least 50. 20 years worth of propecia = 16K (not taking inflation into account).

With 16K, I would rather use that money for a permanent hair implant. Proscar might be good as the total cost for 20 years is 4k (no inflation accounted). However, it is noted that: cutting tablets is considered unadvisable if women of pregnancy age are in the household

[Tapioca]

who sells nioxin shampoo + condition the cheepest in Vancouver, and how much is it?

Is anyone taking Biotin supplements?

I think I am starting to loose hair. I noticed while shampooing that there were like 15 stands of hair in my hands. I am not sure if I was able to see scalp before, but there is some showing around the crown area. I do also have an itchy scalp. Even though i use non itch shampoo. Going to probably see my fam. dr. and see what he says.

Zennkai Salon (sp?) has the best pricing on hair care products. The shampoo/conditioner bundle will cost you about $50 and you'll have to purchase the foam seperately for another $50.

An itchy scalp maybe the result of something else, but generally, if you see thinning in the Crown area, you're at the beginning of male-pattern baldness. It can be costly to fight it. My solution was to invest in a set of clippers and cut my hair short. When my hair goes, then I'll use a Mach 3 with plenty of sunblock for the scalp.

[keitaro]

Zennkai Salon (sp?) has the best pricing on hair care products. The shampoo/conditioner bundle will cost you about $50 and you'll have to purchase the foam seperately for another $50.

An itchy scalp maybe the result of something else, but generally, if you see thinning in the Crown area, you're at the beginning of male-pattern baldness. It can be costly to fight it. My solution was to invest in a set of clippers and cut my hair short. When my hair goes, then I'll use a Mach 3 with plenty of sunblock for the scalp.

I've noticed a lot of hair in my shampoo lather, and it's not getting any better. So far my hair looks full still. But if this keeps going on, it ain't going to be there any longer. I guess I should go see my doctor, to see what my options are. Maybe it could be something health related (besides male pattern baldness).

[baitano]

if youre gonna shave your head just grow a goatee

thats what i do. i look damn good.:D

its funny that i feel more confident without hair rather than with it. and being asian, ive noticed that white girls like that look.

youll stand out from the asian kids in metrotown with anime hair :D

[Tapioca]

I've noticed a lot of hair in my shampoo lather, and it's not getting any better. So far my hair looks full still. But if this keeps going on, it ain't going to be there any longer. I guess I should go see my doctor, to see what my options are. Maybe it could be something health related (besides male pattern baldness).

When I started to notice the amount of hair that I was losing, I became more conscious about it, and thus may have exaggerated in my mind the amount of hair I was losing. A barber told me that I was already thinning at the crown four years ago, but my hair started getting really thin about 18 months ago. So, it's not unusual to lose a lot of hair in a short period of time.

It's always good to see a derrmatologist anyway.

[Nocardia]

update. i tried out laser comb , and even with off and on usage, have been seening ok results, i guess i need to use more freq. to get better results. that said , i have been taking proscar also now

so you think its more likely that the results are from a laser comb over proscar?

I don't even have a statement for that.....

[tool001]

so you think its more likely that the results are from a laser comb over proscar?

I don't even have a statement for that.....

laser comb.. i think, keep in mind, results are not same for everybody, something might trigger results in one person and not another. cheers

[crpl_hicks]

Have I mentioned lately that Biothera is a SCAM!? I really don't think companies that use lasers therapy to "regrow" hair works.

Be wary of their "money back guarantee". Read the contract, they have it set up so they get the final decision, which will always say you had success. And if you want to contest their decision they will say you missed appointments or didn't use the products.

So basically they stack the deck in their favour.

[crpl_hicks]

Surprise, surprise. I contacted the Edmonton Better Business Bureau regarding Biothera's questionable business practices & how they "honour" their guarentee. I have been notified, that after several attempts, Biothera has refused to respond to their inquiry. Yet again this shows that Biothera KNOWS they are SCREWING clients & would rather ignore complaints than defend themselves to the BBB.

I think this should be a warning sign for any of you who have expressed intrest in Biothera. And for those who have extended their sessions for another 6 months & hoping for results, you will be in the same spot you are now, just delayed. I urge you to file complaints against Biothera, as this is a way to reflect to potential clients that Biothera is a scam.

I am planning to contact Alberta Service, the government version of the BBB & see if they have any effect on Biothera. Probably not becasue Biothera obviously feels they can act without reprisal.

[iris1112]

:blushsmile: I wanna know too.. Where can I buy cheaper Nioxin Shampoo + Conditioner, n how much...
thx thx


who sells nioxin shampoo + condition the cheepest in Vancouver, and how much is it?

Is anyone taking Biotin supplements?

I think I am starting to loose hair. I noticed while shampooing that there were like 15 stands of hair in my hands. I am not sure if I was able to see scalp before, but there is some showing around the crown area. I do also have an itchy scalp. Even though i use non itch shampoo. Going to probably see my fam. dr. and see what he says.

[waddy41]

^ USA...esp. with the dollar at par

[bob_chan]

the answer is finasteride - prostate cancer drug that works as an anti-androgen. It is also indicated in androgenic alopecia or male pattern halr loss albeit marketed at a much higher price.

Ask your family doc about it. ;)

[Phat_R]

The laser treatments work but it's expensive ~4K for a year of treatments (52)

[crpl_hicks]

I filed a complaint with Service Alberta and had a discussion with an agent & of course Biothera, yet again has the upper hand on those people that get ripped off. It basically boils down to biothera's word against yours. Because I had no witness during the consultation (where they tell you that your an ideal candidate & convince you that you will have success & because of their "guarentee" you have nothing to lose)there is little Service Alberta will do. They need some hard evidence.

The one way they would investigate is if they start getting more complaints against Biothera. So Again, I encourage anyone & everyone who was ripped off by Biothera to complain to the...

Better Business Bureau
https://odr.bbb.org/...getstarted.aspx

and

Service Alberta
http://www.serviceal...v.ab.ca/562.cfm

If you are okay with being taken advantage of, then do nothing. If your pissed about being lied to & taken for a ride, then take a few minutes to tell your story & get back at biothera. If everyone complained about how Biothera tries to convince you to sign up & then fails to deliver, then maybe something will happen.

[RollingStone]

I've been using minoxidil 5% for 1 month now, no results thus far.

[vdubn4x4chik]

I know this is an old thread but its recently been posted in ... so I thought I'd chime in just incase it hasn't been mentioned (I didn't see it.)

Make sure to get your blood sugars and glucose, hormones and cholesterols check. Get a FULL work up of blood work done.

Some times its even good to go and see an Endocrinologist about this problem and get the proper work ups done. I know it sounds weird to get that stuff checked for your hair but hormones and glucose can not only cause excess hair growth but can also cause excess hair loss.

I've been reading a lot about hormone stuff lately and this is mentioned a lot more than you'd think. It's weird to me too, that doctors wouldn't test these things when a body starts doing odd things. These problems with glucose/insulin/sugars and all that also are hereditary ... not only 'hair loss'. There may be an actual reason other than genes.

HTH :o

[LiquidTurbo]

^

So you can simply go to your doctor and request bloodwork?

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

shit im in my mid 25 and i notice my hair is a lot thinner and grows slower compare to high school. Starting to get nervous about it...
:cry:

[RollingStone]

shit im in my mid 25 and i notice my hair is a lot thinner and grows slower compare to high school. Starting to get nervous about it...
:cry:

I truly believe that hair loss has to be "triggered" by a duration of sustained stress. Learn to manage the 'bad' stress (aka anger) and your chances of going bald decreases significantly. Going bald really sucks! Good luck man! :D

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^

i guess i have been hella stressed lately

[orange7]

I truly believe that hair loss has to be "triggered" by a duration of sustained stress. Learn to manage the 'bad' stress (aka anger) and your chances of going bald decreases significantly. Going bald really sucks! Good luck man! :D

I'm screwed.

From a genetic perspective, I'm not suppose to go bald since my mom's brother isn't bald.

However my hair is starting to become really thin and growing slowly, just like mugen_evolution. I started to notice this during the beginning of my third year study of engineering. I guess all this stress has really gotten into my head. Great.. 2 more years of intense stress. I'm going to be bald and can't do shit until I graduate.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^

i spoke to my friend who is a chinese doctor. He said a lot of things come into play. stress, the kind of food you eat, living habite, lack of sleep, your genes from you parents.


i spoke to my parents, my mom said my dad had shit load of thick hair till his 40s, fuck i didnt think my hair would start thinning out so soon. But i do use hair straightener and dyed my hair couple times when i was younger. So that might come into play, buttom line im starting to get worry about it. My friend also said some of those special treatment shampoo can be bad, afterall it is chemical and may have side effects. My hairstylist warned me that i did lost a lot of hair comare to before. a decade ago i needed a hair cut every 3-4 weeks, and i would tell them to thin the shit out of it becuz it was like a bush. Now i no longer dare to tell them to trim/thin it out.

:(
sucks getting old, or maybe its just the stress from living as a adult life, plus working two jobs can be a bit tiresome

[RollingStone]

Hey Mugen, who's that girl in your pic? she's hella cute! :thumbsup:

If you guys are already experiencing thinning, start doing something about it right now! I didn't do anything for 1 year because I thought it might grow back naturally, it didn't. It got worse!

It finally stopped thinning when I took a really long break (no work, no school, nothing) and learned to live healthy (stress management, daily exercise, nutritious food). But by this time, I already lost 50% of my hair lol. I am now using 2 kinds of treatment: Minoxidil 5% and Nizoral shampoo. From reviews online, these two treatments seem to be the most effective and affordable. Do your research on them now. I believe that if I had started using these two treatments last year, I would have a lot more hair than I do now. Good luck! :D

[orange7]

^

i spoke to my friend who is a chinese doctor. He said a lot of things come into play. stress, the kind of food you eat, living habite, lack of sleep, your genes from you parents.


i spoke to my parents, my mom said my dad had shit load of thick hair till his 40s, fuck i didnt think my hair would start thinning out so soon. But i do use hair straightener and dyed my hair couple times when i was younger. So that might come into play, buttom line im starting to get worry about it. My friend also said some of those special treatment shampoo can be bad, afterall it is chemical and may have side effects. My hairstylist warned me that i did lost a lot of hair comare to before. a decade ago i needed a hair cut every 3-4 weeks, and i would tell them to thin the shit out of it becuz it was like a bush. Now i no longer dare to tell them to trim/thin it out.

:(
sucks getting old, or maybe its just the stress from living as a adult life, plus working two jobs can be a bit tiresome

GG for us.

Same here. I used to get my hair thin out every so often, now I don't even dare to thin it out as it's thinning on its own.

Each time I wash my hair, I can see hair falling off my skull.
More scary is even when I'm just sitting there, I might see a hair just fly off my skull.

:cry:

I used a lot of hair product in the past. and I still do. Maybe I should stop. . .

[pamplemousse]

^ yes, hair gel, mousse, etc damage your hair, weakens it and can lead to hair thinning. dying your hair does the same

[orange7]

dam.. I've been using hair product for 10 years, and with the combination of stress from school, no wonder I'm going bald.

I should stop using hair product, but there aren't any good short hair styles that don't require wax to to make it look good. I like short and spiky. xD

[RollingStone]

Update: I've been using Minoxidil 5% for about 1.5 months and Nizoral shampoo for 1 month and my hair has thickened a bit. I haven't seen any 'new' hair yet though. :D

[tool001]

did a lot of reading recently, Minoxidil 5% is good, but my skin reacts to Proylene Glycol so i got another brand that doesnt use that (if u flake and itichy -try Dr.lee's without PG)

also i ordered some other stuff, nettle root, Palmentto herb, etc. that (for new hair). will try when i get it and let you guys know.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

recently i kinda semi tried pantene's special conditioner, says cure damage hair in one month, from falling etc etc...lol will see how it goes

i really think stress plays a huge part too, sigh....damn life

[tool001]

think stress it just wats triggers it, but ur genes are eventually to blame. Baldness is getting more and more common. baldness from stress is reversable.

look at ur family tree and ull know.
seriously try nyzoral or the one i posted (better). But with these shampoo you have to leave it in so that ur scalp absorbs the DHT removing substance.

[xzman]

my cousin uses that rogaine stuff and it works for him. the only draw back is that if he doesn't use it for awhile he loses his hair again so he has to stay consistent with it

[orange7]

^
dam.. then it's pretty much like a long term medication..

maybe I should give it a try..

[waddy41]

^ long term AND expensive..

[Tapioca]

Any hair retaining treatment program costs a lot of money. That's why most guys (including myself) don't bother with it.

IMHO, it's better to spend that money on maintaining overall health. Having a semi-full head of hair won't do you any favours when you're overweight and suffering from Type-II diabetes. Losing your hair has no effect on your overall health (other than perhaps your self-esteem.)

[orange7]

^
true in a way

well I'm only 21 and I'm already losing a lot of hair, so I do care right now. However when I'm married and have children, I probably wouldn't care anymore.

[orange7]

it'd be hard to pick up jbs if I were bald.

[Tapioca]

^
true in a way

well I'm only 21 and I'm already losing a lot of hair, so I do care right now. However when I'm married and have children, I probably wouldn't care anymore.

Perception and reality are two different things. Thinning hair is not all that bad - a lot of men have this happen in their 20s. But, are you really balding? Have you looked at the crown of your head? Do you see scalp? If you can't see your scalp, then you're not really balding. I started thinning at the crown about 5 years ago when I was 23.

it'd be hard to pick up jbs if I were bald.

When I started to finally notice that my hair was thinning, I took it pretty hard initially - most men do. However, you begin to realize that having hair doesn't define who you are. As I've said in this thread before, you need to make the best of your circumstances. Instead of trying to save your hair, embrace baldness. Shave your head, or buy a set of clippers to keep it buzzed. Take the money you've saved on hair cuts and hair products and invest it or spend it on things that you can control about your appearance.

[vdubn4x4chik]

^

So you can simply go to your doctor and request bloodwork?


Yes, you can request it. Blood work is fairly routine :) Make sure you get your hormones, thyroid and everything tested.

[orange7]

Thinning hair is not all that bad - a lot of men have this happen in their 20s. But, are you really balding? Have you looked at the crown of your head? Do you see scalp? If you can't see your scalp, then you're not really balding. I started thinning at the crown about 5 years ago when I was 23.




don't know if i'm balding or thinning? But my hair falls off for no reason.

I see my scalp when i lift up my hair, and I see a lot of it.. but they still have hair on them, just not very much.

dunno.. but I find it hard for asians to shave their head competely.

[Spidey]

it is natural for ones hairline to recede when you get older. it is called a "mature" hairline. a receding hairline does not mean that you will go bald... you can have a slight recession and it could stop there with no excess balding or receding.

shampoos and conditioners (nioxin) may or may not work. try it for yourself, all stylists carry it. i have read both good and bad about the product.

your best bet if you want results is probably to take teh finasteride.

it is genetics. it has been proven that it doesn't matter which side of the family shows baldness. and for the LAST TIME, wearing a hat IS NOT THE CULPRIT!

stress could cause baldness, but usually that kind of shedding is diffuse thinning/shedding... male pattern baldness is totally different. research male pattern baldness.

[orange7]

i'm pretty sure I'm going bald and I know I have to face this fact.

What sort of changes should I expect to see?
(eg. elementary school kids giving me weird looks, some girls would walk away, me being more grumpy???)

[Spidey]

before you started noticing that you were thinning/balding, did you notice other people who had receding hairlines nad thinning hair? probably not. i know i didn't. i only noticed the ones that were very noticeably bald.

with that said, not many people would really even notice. i talked to many girls and my gf and i told her that abotu 50% of the men she runs into will be bald or thinning... it's true.. you never noticed as a kid or even before you were thinning because it wasn't something important to you. for girls, most of them won't even notice unless you are thinning a lot r bald.

imo the worst thing you can do is grow your hair long and try to salvage what you have left.. imo it makes you look like a bum and greasy.

[to0n]

:)Just shave your head bald,women love guys with bald heads.

but what if your fat? then you will just be a fat bald guy. go to the gym before you shave your head.

[Lissy]

A friend of mine ( 26 ) guy went from a full head of hair to 5 different golf ball sized bald spots in 6 months.

He went to the hospital, the doc and tests shows hes ok....

Docs said its stress, and I truly believe the same. The guy just got married, 2 jobs trying

to make ends meet. He gets only 4 hrs sleep a day now stress has even

started to fuck around with his stomach, making him constipated at times.

[orange7]

a guy i knew when from a full head of hair to 5 differ bald spots in 6 months.

He went to the hospital, the doc and tests shows hes ok....

Docs said its stress, and I truly believe the same. I guy just got married, 2 jobs trying

to make ends meet. He get only 4 hrs sleep a day now stress has even

started to fuck around with his stomach, making him constipated at times.

:D

[Spidey]

A friend of mine ( 26 ) guy went from a full head of hair to 5 different golf ball sized bald spots in 6 months.

He went to the hospital, the doc and tests shows hes ok....

Docs said its stress, and I truly believe the same. The guy just got married, 2 jobs trying

to make ends meet. He gets only 4 hrs sleep a day now stress has even

started to fuck around with his stomach, making him constipated at times.

sounds like stress.. but don't give others here wishful thinking about it being stress... its MPB most of the time... the difference between hairloss related to stress is that it wll go in patches with no pattern

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

A friend of mine ( 26 ) guy went from a full head of hair to 5 different golf ball sized bald spots in 6 months.

He went to the hospital, the doc and tests shows hes ok....

Docs said its stress, and I truly believe the same. The guy just got married, 2 jobs trying

to make ends meet. He gets only 4 hrs sleep a day now stress has even

started to fuck around with his stomach, making him constipated at times.

wow!!!!!!! :cry:

[Tapioca]

i'm pretty sure I'm going bald and I know I have to face this fact.

What sort of changes should I expect to see?
(eg. elementary school kids giving me weird looks, some girls would walk away, me being more grumpy???)

You'll only be grumpy if you allow yourself to be.

I have vowed never to become bald and overweight. If you're uncomfortable with shaving, just keep it close, like a No. 1 or No. 2 razor (I use a No. 2 myself). Adjust as necessary as your hair loss grows and/or with the weather.

The 'shaven' look has definitely added a few years to my appearance which could be an advantage/disadvantage socially for you. It's gotten to the point now where I can't really imagine having a full head of hair - I wouldn't know what to do with it.

[orange7]

okay.. I've finally decided to go see the doctor. Even my friend is starting to notice my hair thinning.

I just have one last question to ask. Is there a distinct connection between baldness and the rate of hair growing?
Strange thing is, I haven't had a hair cut in a longgg time because my hair growing rate seems to have really slow downed a lot.


Also, my hair feels really dry all the time.


I really really can't accept the fact that I'm losing so much hair in the past months when I'm barely 21. There has to be more than just me having baldness gene.
Being bald at age 30+ is acceptable but at age 20 is not.

[LiquidTurbo]

okay.. I've finally decided to go see the doctor. Even my friend is starting to notice my hair thinning.

I just have one last question to ask. Is there a distinct connection between baldness and the rate of hair growing?
Strange thing is, I haven't had a hair cut in a longgg time because my hair growing rate seems to have really slow downed a lot.


Also, my hair feels really dry all the time.


I really really can't accept the fact that I'm losing so much hair in the past months when I'm barely 21. There has to be more than just me having baldness gene.
Being bald at age 30+ is acceptable but at age 20 is not.

Pics of hairline?:D

[SizzleChest]

EDIT: you can't delete messages anymore???

[Tapioca]

okay.. I've finally decided to go see the doctor. Even my friend is starting to notice my hair thinning.

I just have one last question to ask. Is there a distinct connection between baldness and the rate of hair growing?
Strange thing is, I haven't had a hair cut in a longgg time because my hair growing rate seems to have really slow downed a lot.


Also, my hair feels really dry all the time.


I really really can't accept the fact that I'm losing so much hair in the past months when I'm barely 21. There has to be more than just me having baldness gene.
Being bald at age 30+ is acceptable but at age 20 is not.

A family doctor won't be able to tell you much otherwise, but he/she could certainly forward you to a dermatologist just to make sure there's nothing wrong with you scalp.

Male-pattern baldness can strike basically anytime after adolescence, though most guys start experience the effects in their mid to late 20s.

It sounds like you haven't done any research to diagnose yourself. Take a chill pill and look up Finasteride on Wikipedia. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finasteride

You can control your baldness and in some cases, re-grow your hair. However, taking pills, and using hair care products to control your hair loss is a lifelong commitment and one that requires some thought.

[orange7]

http://www.todaystylist.com/hair_loss_why_happen.htm

gonna see the doctor just incase..

what if I'm lossing hair cause of a sculp infection or something. I may have a chance to save myeslf another 5-10 years if I act fast.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

okay.. I've finally decided to go see the doctor. Even my friend is starting to notice my hair thinning.

I just have one last question to ask. Is there a distinct connection between baldness and the rate of hair growing?
Strange thing is, I haven't had a hair cut in a longgg time because my hair growing rate seems to have really slow downed a lot.


Also, my hair feels really dry all the time.


I really really can't accept the fact that I'm losing so much hair in the past months when I'm barely 21. There has to be more than just me having baldness gene.
Being bald at age 30+ is acceptable but at age 20 is not.

hope u are alrit dude
:(

[orange7]

hope u are alrit dude
:(

how's your hair?

any better than before after trying the new conditioner?

[Spidey]

http://www.todaystylist.com/hair_loss_why_happen.htm

gonna see the doctor just incase..

what if I'm lossing hair cause of a sculp infection or something. I may have a chance to save myeslf another 5-10 years if I act fast.
if you had a scalp condition, i think you would know.. itchiness, flakes, redness etc.. anything that is not normal. just face the facts and stop being in denial. you are losing your hair. ... now either be proactive and do something about it, or accept it.

[46_valentinor]

just bought nioxin stage 1 kit!! i hope it works!!

[orange7]

if you had a scalp condition, i think you would know.. itchiness, flakes, redness etc.. anything that is not normal. just face the facts and stop being in denial. you are losing your hair. ... now either be proactive and do something about it, or accept it.

hm.. since you've mentioned it.. my head does occasionally feel ichy and there is this awkward pain on the crown of my head.

there is also this really num and soft spot right at the crown of my head.

however, i don't notive any flakes.


gonna end this mystery soon when i see the doctor tmr.

[orange7]

found my answer today.

I'm balding.

Most men start to bald after 40, but since my dad started to bald when he was 29, I am too facing even ealier balding.


GG

time to shave my head and wear a cap.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^

dude how old are u!!!

i cant believe u are balding in ur 20s

my doc told me hair grows slower in winter time just like our nail


he told me to go out more and enjoy the sun
:confused:

which i highly doubt is the reason im losing some hair...but meh watever

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

how's your hair?

any better than before after trying the new conditioner?

i dont think my condition is as bad as yours, even tho we dont have pics to show.


But my hairstylist definitely noticed it. he said it aint bad, human go thru changes in their life, im just at a different stage now. Since im in my mid 20s, he said as long as i stay semi healthy, i should remain some what the same till im 40, than the next change should begin.

I used to use Pantene a lot, and never really bother with the conditioner. Recently i switched to Garnier, i think i like that better. Hair feels healthier, than again im not sure if that helps with hair falling out of my head, but im just doing my part i guess..healthier hair is a start?


PS

since you mentioned your dad started to bald at the age of 29, i think you should handle this matter more serious in an urgent manner if you dont wonna go bald. perhaps use the special shampoo like some of the members are doing, to contain the hair thats on your head right now without further lost.

[orange7]

^

yup.. gonna use some chemical product to help slow it down till i'm late 20's or early 30's.

Gonna go back to the doctor next week to ask for recommendations on hair products.

[Tapioca]

^

yup.. gonna use some chemical product to help slow it down till i'm late 20's or early 30's.

Gonna go back to the doctor next week to ask for recommendations on hair products.

Just use Nioxin #2 and call it a day. Expect to pay $100 beans every 4-5 months.

[orange7]

^

gonna ask my doctor if I should use that or if there is something else.

[Spidey]

hair thinning and recession starts when you hit your 20s.. some ppl just start losing it at a faster rate than others.. every man will lose their hair... whether it is in their 20s 30s 40s 50s 60s etc... if you look at ppl on the bus or anywhere for that matter, 50% (at least) of males 20 or older will show signs of recession or thinning/balding. it just sucks when it happens to YOu. do your research... use nizoral every other day... use nioxin everyday and take saw palmetto as directed. hopefully those alone will help halt or slow down your thinnign if it hasnt gotten too bad.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

:( sux

[Spidey]

Just use Nioxin #2 and call it a day. Expect to pay $100 beans every 4-5 months.

you can get nioxin for cheaper than that... you can get the shampoo/conditioner combo (the big suckers) for 50 bucks... it takes me forever to get through it.

[kokanee_vtec]

Im 22 and I started noticing my hair thinning when i was 17, 18, I can now see scalp at the crown of my head and also at the front at the left side. 80% of the time I wear a hat/ shaved head, in the winter and fall I grow my hair and try to cover up the balding spots. I don't use any hair loss treatment, it's just too expensive.

[Spidey]

Im 22 and I started noticing my hair thinning when i was 17, 18, I can now see scalp at the crown of my head and also at the front at the left side. 80% of the time I wear a hat/ shaved head, in the winter and fall I grow my hair and try to cover up the balding spots. I don't use any hair loss treatment, it's just too expensive.

if you order rogaine online you can probably get a month supply for abotu 20 bucks.. which imo, isnt that much.. your cell phone, gym membership, daily coffee, or anything for that matter is more expensive...

[tamoose]

you can get nioxin for cheaper than that... you can get the shampoo/conditioner combo (the big suckers) for 50 bucks... it takes me forever to get through it.


where exactly can i get the deals on this ?

[Presto]

^

dude how old are u!!!

i cant believe u are balding in ur 20s



One of my good friends from high school had full-on MPB at 20. I remember graduating and then not seeing him for a few years, and was surprised to see him bald. It was hereditary, as his dad went bald early, as well. He just shaves his head completely.

My dad is bald. He started thinning rapidly in his mid to late 20s. Bald by 30. I'm 32 and still have all my hair. Hopefully, I dodged a bullet on this, as a majority of people on my dad's side are bald, even his eldest sister. I got a little worried, a couple years ago, when I was washing my hair and finding a lot of strands in my hand, but it looks like that was a stress thing. Stress sucks.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^

i bet if all of us won the lottery our stress level will reduce by 95%

dont have to worry about bills to pay, what school? what work

[monkeywrench]

anyone here know about eyebrow hair loss?

[Spidey]

anyone here know about eyebrow hair loss?

wtf?

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

anyone here know about eyebrow hair loss?

UGH.....

:bullshit:

[Harvey Specter]

anyone here know about eyebrow hair loss?

....i hate to ask the obvious question here but have you been to the doctor???

[orange7]

well this is it guys.

Since i'm losing a lot of hair already and I can see a lot of my scalp, I'm just going to shave my whole head completely today.


brb, going to a $10 barber now.

[quasi]

well this is it guys.

Since i'm losing a lot of hair already and I can see a lot of my scalp, I'm just going to shave my whole head completely today.


brb, going to a $10 barber now.

Good pair of clippers will be the best investment ever if you plan to keep shaving your head. I cut my hair every 1-2 weeks and I haven't paid for a haircut in probably 7 or 8 years.

[monkeywrench]

....i hate to ask the obvious question here but have you been to the doctor???

I haven't yet but I've noticed the hair loss after I had my wisdom teeth pulled. I'm guessing its maybe because of my eating habits after I had the teeth pulled because I lost about 6 pounds. Ate nothing but congee for almost a week

But anyway, I've got a doctor's appointment friday and see how it goes

[crpl_hicks]

For those that are thinking to try Biothera out or any place advertising lasers to grow hair, here's what you may expect to hear.

1st- You will be asked some questions about your health & when you stated to notice losing hair.

2nd - They will look at your scalp under a photoscope(close up of your folicles)to determine if you have any "viable" folicles.

3rd- They tell you that because your folicles are not closed off, they can regrow hair, using Biothera' program or specialty products & laser light. If they use the words, "you are an excellent canidate" or "because you have viable folicles, you definately will see increased hair density" you will know that what I'm telling you about Biothera is true.

4th- They will use more of a soft sell on you. I had 2 appointments. After the first one, I did some research to see if there was any negative feedback & @ the time there were not many comments good OR bad. But based on what Biothera told me & the fact that they offered a "results gauranteed" refund, I like many others thought I had nothing to lose(except my $$).

5th- They have you sign the "results gauranteed" refund/contract. READ it carefully! It will state that basically Biothera has the final say. Even if you don't have any growth, because you signed the contract giving them the final say, Biothera has predetermined you will have "increased hair density" even if you don't. In my case, I was told not to worry what the contract says, during my consult Doug had assured me I would see results.

6th- The contract states that you will attend an in clinic 20 min laser session once a week for a year, use their hair shampoo & conditioner every month & their topical solution nightly. If you miss any of these things you are in breach of contract & inelligable for a refund. So win or lose, Biothera plays both sides of the fence if you ever what to apply for a refund, and screw you out of you money.

[ImportXxX]

has anyone try this? looks interesting

power grow comb

http://www.velformpowergrowcomb.eu/

[RabidRat]

well this is it guys.

Since i'm losing a lot of hair already and I can see a lot of my scalp, I'm just going to shave my whole head completely today.


brb, going to a $10 barber now.

so how'd it go?

[mowontech]

you can get nioxin for cheaper than that... you can get the shampoo/conditioner combo (the big suckers) for 50 bucks... it takes me forever to get through it.

My fiance has a aesthetic/makeup license so I get these combo for 32-34dollars after her discount. I'm using it right now but not sure if its working that well at the moment. I tried using nissim shampoo/rinse but didn't think it was workin well either..

[orange7]

so how'd it go?

went well..

since i still had some hair, i just shaved my head so that my hair was like 5mm long.

i'll probably go 100% all the way next year..

lol..

my hair grows so slowly. i still haven't cut my hair since the last time.

my hair is only like 2cm long.
lol

[slammer111]

Just asked my doctor friend today. Yeah I noticed my hairline is receding too, and certain parts grow faster than others.

Monoxidil (Rogaine) is older. Finisteride (Proscar or Propecia) is newer. He recommended finisteride. According to him, finisteride is more effective, but works best if you still have hair in said area. It's more of "preventative maintenance" than "damage control".

My dad used Rogaine (spent a few grand on it) and he grew a handful of hairs up top. :lol So personally I'm skeptical about that product.

The other downside iirc is that Rogaine is super-toxic to cats. If you rub it on your scalp, then visit a buddy who has one and your head touches the sofa..

[Spidey]

this is my daily regimine.... i started doing this when i noticed some hair line recession.. although it could be just a mature hairline and could never develop into full out MPB, I am not going to take any chances...

saw palmetto 2 times a day (morning, night)

regular shampoo or anti dandruff shampoo and woodys conditioner in the morning

nioxin shampoo and woodys conditioner at night.

research why saw palmetto might be the natural treatment for MPB. Also, nizoral has also been shown to increase hair thickness by creating a healthier scalp environment for follicles.

it is all about prevention and maintenance people! if you are very badly thinning/balding, it may be too late if follicles are permanently dormant... my advice is to everyone who is int heir early twenties, to take a good look in the mirror and see if you notice hair recession or a small patch on your crown slwoly getting bigger.

http://www.folica.com/hair-loss/hair-growth-systems/nioxin-system-one-cleanser-for-fine-hair-formerly-nioxin-bionutrient-actives

http://www.folica.com/reviews/hair-care/hair-conditioners/woodys-daily-conditioner

[mr_chin]

I am experiencing MPB as well but not as severe as several years ago (I don't know why). All my friends says that at the top of my head, I have very little hair, but not very bad. The very first time I got my haircut at my usual salon, my barber already told me I was losing hair, but just recently she said it's not getting any worst.

I researched into some remedies that might help, but I have never personally tried it myself.

- Rogaine, it will slow down hair loss but will not prevent it permanently. I also heard it has a side effect of altering your hormones.

- Lie on your bed and put your head downwards facing the ground. Allowing blood to flow to your head will feed your follicle for hair growth. Hair feeds on blood just like your nails.

- Don't use your nails to scrub your head when shampooing. Will speed up hair loss. Instead massage the shampoo into your hair gently.

- Buy hair dryer with a cold air function. Using hot hair to dry your hair will thin it.

- This may be an urban legend, which I have been wanting to try. Buy some ginger and squeeze the juice out of it until you have atleast a little bowl worth. Lather it onto your scalp and allow it to sit for 5 minutes. You should get a cold feeling on your scalp. This is to stimulate the follicle to allow hair to grow faster. Some people reported that their hair grow much faster, but no reports saying that they have grown more hair. It is also said that ginger has vitamin A that will help your hair growth.

But humans tend to lose hair everyday, those that are not going through hair loss are growing hair faster than they lose. So if you can speed up hair growth, you may slow it down a bit.

- Quit smoking if you haven't. I quit for 6 months and noticed very minimal hair loss during showers.

- Jogging and cardio will get your blood flowing to the head.

[obselete]

^good advices...

yes i have heard about negative side effects of rogaine so i would try to avoid that

[orange7]

fuk.. it costs so much to maintain my bald head.

I still have a lot of hair growing around the crown.... and a bit at the crown.



dam..... I'm getting used to wearing hats now.. so it covers the crown of my head.

hahaha

[rice cooker]

good news people

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V64ht1r8APo&feature=related

[Spidey]

ya ive seen that clip a while ago... we will see if anythign develops out of it..

[raygunpk]

Anybody still using their Nioxin shampoos? How are the results so far?

[Spidey]

Anybody still using their Nioxin shampoos? How are the results so far?

i have been using nioxin for about 2 years now... well more like 1.5 i think.. i havent noticed any more hair loss/thinning on my crown, but my hairline is still receding a bit/the hairds around my temple are thinning a bit.. i dunno if there is anything that can be done with receding hairlines as rogaine doesnt even work with hair recession..

also, i am on nioxin and saw palmetto pills.. i won't really know for sure if it is working until another year or so... hair thins very slowly, and unless you are one of the few that are unlucky and "shed diffusely", then your hair loss will be very gradual and won't notice until it is almost too late. I caught mine very early on, but am not sure if anything is working as of yet.. If my hair stays the way it is right now i would be very happy though.

[Hondaracer]

fuck hair transplant surgery is hella expensive, at least from whats considered "the best" Hasson and Wong, locally, 10k for 2000 transplants

wonder if u can go elsewhere and get it for cheaper

[Spidey]

fuck hair transplant surgery is hella expensive, at least from whats considered "the best" Hasson and Wong, locally, 10k for 2000 transplants

wonder if u can go elsewhere and get it for cheaper

imo, all plugs look fake and retarded.. just wait for advancements.

[orange7]

ppl should just do what I did.

just shave your head completely bald.

best way to save money.



use the saved money to buy LV bags for chicks.

guaranteed you will get more chicks than having hair. (but I have never tried this)

[Spidey]

ppl should just do what I did.

just shave your head completely bald.

best way to save money.



use the saved money to buy LV bags for chicks.

guaranteed you will get more chicks than having hair. (but I have never tried this)

losing hair is very psychologically damaging for most guys... esp if it happens suddenly. it is like when a woman gets her first wrinkle.. the difference is, there is botox for women..

anyways, fuck LV bags.. fuck any girl that needs to be bought shit to stick around.

[orange7]

losing hair is very psychologically damaging for most guys... esp if it happens suddenly. it is like when a woman gets her first wrinkle.. the difference is, there is botox for women..

anyways, fuck LV bags.. fuck any girl that needs to be bought shit to stick around.


I agree about the psychological part.

at first I couldn't believe it myself that I'm going bald at the age of 21, but then afterwards I don't care anymore.

[Hondaracer]

imo, all plugs look fake and retarded.. just wait for advancements.

The a actual follicle transplant seems to look pretty good from what I've seen, plugs are different because it's groups of hairs in one plug while the folicle transplant is a single hair
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[Spidey]

The a actual follicle transplant seems to look pretty good from what I've seen, plugs are different because it's groups of hairs in one plug while the folicle transplant is a single hair
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the problem i have with any type of follicular transplant is that the hair has to come from somehwere .. ie the back of your head.. even if you graft enoguh hair to cover your crown, you will never be able to get enough from the back of your head to fully cover your crown.. the way balding goes is that eventually you will lose ALL your hair on top.. there is no way there is enough hair in the back of your head to cover the top completely.. depending on the stage of your hair loss you can graft to show fullness.. and then take stuff like propecia etc to keep the hair that has yet to fall off.. if you don't you will lose all the hair that was not grafted and you will eventually look like a freak.

in the end.. it does suck when you are in your 20s and balding.. but if you are in you 30s or even 40s.. accept it.. especially when you are married and have kids already lol

that being said, anyone hear reading this and if you are in your 20, even if you don't show signs of balding i would strongly recommend using preventative measures. some lose it slowly or really late in their life, but some can wake up oen morning with hair all over their pillow

[orange7]

that being said, anyone hear reading this and if you are in your 20, even if you don't show signs of balding i would strongly recommend using preventative measures. some lose it slowly or really late in their life, but some can wake up oen morning with hair all over their pillow


too late.

but I don't regret not spending money on hair loss preventative measure :)

[Amuse]

I researched into some remedies that might help, but I have never personally tried it myself.
Some good advice

Some things to add.
Protect your head from rain, wind, and cold. Wear a toque.
Stop eating so many chemicals.
Sleep more.

[Spidey]

Some good advice

Some things to add.
Protect your head from rain, wind, and cold. Wear a toque.
Stop eating so many chemicals.
Sleep more.

i think the last 2 are the only things i would follow that COULD help.. mind you guys, MPB has been going on for decades if not centuries.... in the end, we will give in to our genetics.

[Hondaracer]

anyone use anything for dry scalp?

went and got my hair cut on the weekend and the chick who usually cuts my hair said she had never seen my scalp so dry and to stop using the shampoo i'm using ASAP [nioxin] so now i picked up some of the Nizoral which she said is very good and i tried a while ago, but my scalp seems so dry that its actually contributing to loss, need to solve it asap

[Spidey]

i use nizoral and nioxin.. i use nioxin nightly and nizoral 2ice a week... make sure you condition with a good conditioner.. ie woodys

[TypeRNammer]

Is Nizoral a temporary solution to fixing the dry scalp?

[Spidey]

nizoral is mainly used for people with scalp conditions like dandruff.. if you have dry scalp, i would actually use something more moisturizing as nizoral can leave the hair and scalp even more dry...

[Hondaracer]

well i cant keep using nioxin because that seems to be the culprit to my dry scalp even though i only use it like 3-4 times a week

any other recommendations for a normal hydrating shampoo?

[jonwon]

How would you guys diagnose a receding hair line? I'm not sure how this thought popped in my head but I've been thinking about it all day and I'm trippin out that I'm turning bald. I have quite a lot of hair and recently I've been growing it quite long so my bangs cover most of my forehead and I don't recall what it looked like when I cut it short. So, I looked in the mirror pulled my bangs back and almost shit my pants; it looked like the pictures I saw when I googled "receding hairline"... Should I see a dermatologist about this? I turned 20 not that long ago, so I'm still pretty young.

[Spidey]

dont you have pics of when you had your hair short? recedin hairlines do not always mean you are going to go bald though, although it could be a sign

[Hondaracer]

well i cant keep using nioxin because that seems to be the culprit to my dry scalp even though i only use it like 3-4 times a week

any other recommendations for a normal hydrating shampoo?

i picked up some "Organix shampoo" from london drugs, it is suppose to be totally organic and has tea tree oils, green tea, and some other extract in it and it claims to rehydrate hair, so i'm gonna be trying this out for a bit i guess

[orange7]

dont you have pics of when you had your hair short? recedin hairlines do not always mean you are going to go bald though, although it could be a sign

but when you are receding at like 20 (like me), then it will mean you will become bald much earlier than the average joe.

[Spidey]

true.. or itll just slow down and stop...

[tool001]

anybody try anti dht shampoos?

[Spidey]

anybody try anti dht shampoos?

essentially, that is what nioxin is.. so it claims.. there are others out there but i have not tried those yet.. the probably is dht in the follicle though, usually shampoos (i think most shampoos that dont even claim to remove dht), wash surface dht anyways... you have to prevent the dht from attaching to the follicles in the first place.. that is what propecia does... that is why i suggested those to try taking saw palmetto for the dht. google why saw palmetto has a good chance of working the same way as propecia, but it is natural

[orange7]

anybody know wat Rogaine is?

any feedbacks?

[Spidey]

anybody know wat Rogaine is?

any feedbacks?

it is minoxidil. google it.

[Spidey]

if you have dandruff and want a very good product that wont dry out your scalp etc, try out ducray products..

http://www.londondrugs.com/Cultures/en-US/Product+Detail/Beauty.htm?BreadCrumbs=Beauty;Beauty;Hair%20Care;S hampoos%20Dandruff;Ducray%20Sélégel%20Shampoo%20fo r%20Dry%20Dandruff%20-%20125ml&ProductID=3138146&ProductTab=3

also, i have the ducray elution hair and scalp repairing shampoo... use the elution formula if you have issues from nioxin or nizoral drying out your hair.. i have been using it for 2 days and already notice less itching and dryness and my hair isn't dry anymore... nioxin has been known to dryout my hair sometimes

http://www.londondrugs.com/Cultures/en-US/Product+Detail/Beauty.htm?BreadCrumbs=Beauty;Beauty;Hair%20Care;S hampoos%20Dry%20and%20Damaged%20Hair;Ducray%20Elut ion%20Dermo-Protective%20Treatment%20Shampoo%20for%20Sensitive %20Scalps%20-%20300ml&ProductID=3138120&ProductTab=3

[Hondaracer]

I stopped using nioxin, combed my scalp with olive oil to remove all the flaking scalp then used nizoral two times a week and an all natural moisturzizing shampoo, scalp is wayyy better and hair looks alot better too, doesn't look good when I get my hair cut though but once it's dry and shorter barely noticeable thinning, and I originally noticed the thinning like 4 years ago now?
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[Spidey]

I stopped using nioxin, combed my scalp with olive oil to remove all the flaking scalp then used nizoral two times a week and an all natural moisturzizing shampoo, scalp is wayyy better and hair looks alot better too, doesn't look good when I get my hair cut though but once it's dry and shorter barely noticeable thinning, and I originally noticed the thinning like 4 years ago now?
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I dont think I could ever get into the idea of putting olive oil eggs or anything like that in my hair/ on my head lol

[guesskid]

there is actually shampoo made especially for dry scape by herbal essences .

Go on their website and enter your options and see which shampoo is recommend !

http://www.herbalessences.ca/en_CA/hair_product_recommendation/default.jsp?gclid=CI-nz6SHlaYCFQQPbAod8RNZoA

[Spidey]

there is actually shampoo made especially for dry scape by herbal essences .

Go on their website and enter your options and see which shampoo is recommend !

http://www.herbalessences.ca/en_CA/hair_product_recommendation/default.jsp?gclid=CI-nz6SHlaYCFQQPbAod8RNZoA

I stay away from ALL mainstream brands, like fructis, alberto, head and shoulders etc... they have way too much chemicals in their ingredients which cannot be good for your scalp... most of the shampoos and or drugs in general mask the issue and don't treat the underlying problem

[Hondaracer]

I dont think I could ever get into the idea of putting olive oil eggs or anything like that in my hair/ on my head lol

lol it was actually recomended by my doctor just for the initial treatment for getting rid of all the flaking completely because it instantly moisturizes your scalp and free's up all the scaling

worked pretty good lol

[Spidey]

lol it was actually recomended by my doctor just for the initial treatment for getting rid of all the flaking completely because it instantly moisturizes your scalp and free's up all the scaling

worked pretty good lol

i am sure it does work.. but it gives me a weird icky feeling just picturing that stuff on my head lol

[Hondaracer]

yea, the washing it out part feels pretty nasty lol

[Spidey]

i dont remember if this was posted, but apparently costco, or even online, has generic minoxidil for cheap... 6 months for 30 bucks, cheap. worth a try and you arent spending much to give it an over the counter shot...

[jonwon]

Anyone have side effects they got from using minoxidil 5%? Got some prescribed by my doctor and I read up about it online and now I'm kinda scared to use it... I read that it could cause more hair loss.

[Spidey]

Anyone have side effects they got from using minoxidil 5%? Got some prescribed by my doctor and I read up about it online and now I'm kinda scared to use it... I read that it could cause more hair loss.

the initial shedding is normal.. it basically turns the follicles "active" again.. so the ones that lose the hair regrow...

the side effects are pretty minor.. and rare... you are probably risking just as much taking any other over the counter medication.

[Hondaracer]

does the minoxidil even work? u guys use it?

only thing ive ever used it the proscar

[orange7]

does the minoxidil even work? u guys use it?

only thing ive ever used it the proscar

lol.. i'm waiting for someone to try it and post up results.

you wanna be the guinea pig? :)

[Spidey]

rogaine/minoxidil has been around for a while now.. I am sure many men use it, if not for some regrowth, but to keep the hair they have. the key is to use it before you go bald.. once you notice thinning, i would get on it.. minoxidil works for some.. but most people tkae it who have been completely bald for years, hoping that it is a miracle drug

btw it is so cheap.. you can get it online for 5-10 bucks for a month supply, why wouldnt you just get it? Everyone wants to see others results... It takes abotu 3-4 months to see results.. by then you would have lost that much more hair..

[SoulCrusher]

rogaine/minoxidil is popular amongst knock-offs online. Be aware before buying online.

[Spidey]

rogaine/minoxidil is popular amongst knock-offs online. Be aware before buying online.

knock offs as in fake minoxidil? minox is minox whether it is kirkland or london drugs no name brands... but if it is a no name from china brand filled with water, then yes, there could be places out there that are like that.

[Orange]

I can't believe no one posted this yet but the hair loss gene comes from your mother, not from your father. It doesn't matter if your father is bald or your father's father is bald, it will not affect the potential of your hair loss. It is our mothers who carry the genes that indicates your possibility of hair loss.

chromosome: Simply put, the genes that determines one's traits.

First of all we must understand that a person is composed of a pairing of sex chromosomes. Our respective fathers have the chromosomes x and y, which indicate male, while in comparison, our mothers have two chromosome x's, indicating female. These chromosomes are important to know, as the hereditary hair loss gene resides from the x chromosome.

father (male) = [x,y]
mother (female) = [x,x]

When one is procreated, one chromosome from the father and the mother are required. Assuming the hypothetical baby is a male, he will need a designated "y" chromosome, only available from his father and to complete the set we must now acquire an "x" chromosome from the mother. However, there are two available which will complicate the process of identifying if the baby will turn bald or not.

How do we indicate if it the baby has the potential to bald, based on genetics?
The balding gene is a recessive trait located on our x chromosome, meaning that it needs to be paired with another x chromosome with the same balding trait for it to activate. However, if there is no available x chromosome to be paired with, it is immediately activated. This is why males are more likely to be bald than females. Females need two x chromosomes to turn bald as opposed to the male's one (as it needs to pair with a y chromosome). In retrospect, if your father is bald, this signifies that his only x chromosome has the trait pertaining to hair loss. If your father isn't bald, it means he has a dominant x chromosome.

We have just established that the father does not pass down the hereditary balding gene and this is why it is vital to look at the family tree of our mothers. Since the "y" chromosome was obtained from our father, we must now complete the set with a "x" chromosome. Since there are two "x" chromosomes available, we must look at the family tree from the mother's side to guess if one will turn bald or not.

legend:
x-r = recessive balding x gene
x-d = dominant x gene (no balding)

scenario 1:
father with luscious long hair[x,y] x doesn't matter here
bald mother[x-r, x-r]

Any male baby the couple will procreate will result in a bald baby as any x chromosome taken from the mother will result in the baby obtaining the balding gene.

scenario 2:
father with luscious long hair[x,y] x doesn't matter here
mother with hair [x-r, x-d] or [x-d, x-d]

Since the x chromosome is not activated we do not know if the mother has the recessive hair loss gene. There is a possibility that the mother has the recessive x chromosome but we do not know for sure. This baby can end up bald or with hair if the mother has the recessive x chromosome paired with a dominant x chromosome. To figure out if the mother is indeed [x-r, x-d] or [x-d, x-d] the family tree of the mother now has to be looked.

baby's mother [x-d, unknown x]

To figure out the other x, we must look at the father and mother of the baby's mother. Since females require TWO x chromosomes, one x chromosome from the mother and the father are required.

mother's father [y,x]
mother's mother [x,x]

Since we know that one of the gene is dominant (as indicated by the mother having hair) we must indicate if her mother or father has a balding gene or not. Since the father only has one x chromosome, we will know for sure if it is a recessive x chromosome or dominant x chromosome by his head. If he has hair, he has the dominant x chromosome and alternatively, if he is bald, he has the recessive x chromosome.

If the father is balding, we will know for sure that the baby's mother has a recessive x chromosome from her father. Since the baby's mother is not balding in this case, we know that a dominant x chromosome is required to deactivate the x chromosome, so we can safely assume the mother's mother gave a dominant x chromosome to the baby's mother.

mother's father [y, x-r]
mother's mother x-d]

..> baby's mother [x-d, x-r] + baby's father [y, unneeded x]

The baby's mother will have a chromosome pairing of x-r (from the father) and x-d (from the mother). Ta-da!

But.. if the father has a dominant x chromosome, we will not know if the x chromosome taken from the mother's mother is a recessive x chromosome or dominant x chromosome as the mother's mother can have either a pairing of [x-r, x-d] or [x-d, x-d]. This continues a tedious process in which we must now analyze the hair analysis of the mother's mother's parents (baby's great grandparents).

mother's father [x-d, y]
mother's mother if she has hair [x-r, x-d] or [x-d, x-d]

TL;DR
Hair loss is not caused solely on genetics but a number of contributing factors, including environment, health related issues, etc. Through science, we can analyze if one will turn bald due to the genetic make up of one's mother.

[Spidey]

I can't believe no one posted this yet but the hair loss gene comes from your mother, not from your father. It doesn't matter if your father is bald or your father's father is bald, it will not affect the potential of your hair loss. It is our mothers who carry the genes that indicates your possibility of hair loss.

chromosome: Simply put, the genes that determines one's traits.

First of all we must understand that a person is composed of a pairing of sex chromosomes. Our respective fathers have the chromosomes x and y, which indicate male, while in comparison, our mothers have two chromosome x's, indicating female. These chromosomes are important to know, as the hereditary hair loss gene resides from the x chromosome.

father (male) = [x,y]
mother (female) = [x,x]

When one is procreated, one chromosome from the father and the mother are required. Assuming the hypothetical baby is a male, he will need a designated "y" chromosome, only available from his father and to complete the set we must now acquire an "x" chromosome from the mother. However, there are two available which will complicate the process of identifying if the baby will turn bald or not.

How do we indicate if it the baby has the potential to bald, based on genetics?
The balding gene is a recessive trait located on our x chromosome, meaning that it needs to be paired with another x chromosome with the same balding trait for it to activate. However, if there is no available x chromosome to be paired with, it is immediately activated. This is why males are more likely to be bald than females. Females need two x chromosomes to turn bald as opposed to the male's one (as it needs to pair with a y chromosome). In retrospect, if your father is bald, this signifies that his only x chromosome has the trait pertaining to hair loss. If your father isn't bald, it means he has a dominant x chromosome.

We have just established that the father does not pass down the hereditary balding gene and this is why it is vital to look at the family tree of our mothers. Since the "y" chromosome was obtained from our father, we must now complete the set with a "x" chromosome. Since there are two "x" chromosomes available, we must look at the family tree from the mother's side to guess if one will turn bald or not.

legend:
x-r = recessive balding x gene
x-d = dominant x gene (no balding)

scenario 1:
father with luscious long hair[x,y] x doesn't matter here
bald mother[x-r, x-r]

Any male baby the couple will procreate will result in a bald baby as any x chromosome taken from the mother will result in the baby obtaining the balding gene.

scenario 2:
father with luscious long hair[x,y] x doesn't matter here
mother with hair [x-r, x-d] or [x-d, x-d]

Since the x chromosome is not activated we do not know if the mother has the recessive hair loss gene. There is a possibility that the mother has the recessive x chromosome but we do not know for sure. This baby can end up bald or with hair if the mother has the recessive x chromosome paired with a dominant x chromosome. To figure out if the mother is indeed [x-r, x-d] or [x-d, x-d] the family tree of the mother now has to be looked.

baby's mother [x-d, unknown x]

To figure out the other x, we must look at the father and mother of the baby's mother. Since females require TWO x chromosomes, one x chromosome from the mother and the father are required.

mother's father [y,x]
mother's mother [x,x]

Since we know that one of the gene is dominant (as indicated by the mother having hair) we must indicate if her mother or father has a balding gene or not. Since the father only has one x chromosome, we will know for sure if it is a recessive x chromosome or dominant x chromosome by his head. If he has hair, he has the dominant x chromosome and alternatively, if he is bald, he has the recessive x chromosome.

If the father is balding, we will know for sure that the baby's mother has a recessive x chromosome from her father. Since the baby's mother is not balding in this case, we know that a dominant x chromosome is required to deactivate the x chromosome, so we can safely assume the mother's mother gave a dominant x chromosome to the baby's mother.

mother's father [y, x-r]
mother's mother x-d]

..> baby's mother [x-d, x-r] + baby's father [y, unneeded x]

The baby's mother will have a chromosome pairing of x-r (from the father) and x-d (from the mother). Ta-da!

But.. if the father has a dominant x chromosome, we will not know if the x chromosome taken from the mother's mother is a recessive x chromosome or dominant x chromosome as the mother's mother can have either a pairing of [x-r, x-d] or [x-d, x-d]. This continues a tedious process in which we must now analyze the hair analysis of the mother's mother's parents (baby's great grandparents).

mother's father [x-d, y]
mother's mother if she has hair [x-r, x-d] or [x-d, x-d]

TL;DR
Hair loss is not caused solely on genetics but a number of contributing factors, including environment, health related issues, etc. Through science, we can analyze if one will turn bald due to the genetic make up of one's mother.

welcome to last ... decade? it has been proven that it comes from both, at which percentage, no one really knows. but it is a myth that you ONLY get it from your mothers side.

http://www.bernsteinmedical.com/hair-loss/men/causes/

[Orange]

welcome to last ... decade? it has been proven that it comes from both, at which percentage, no one really knows. but it is a myth that you ONLY get it from your mothers side.

http://www.bernsteinmedical.com/hair-loss/men/causes/

You didn't really need to quote my entire post to give me a snobby response but I'll take it that I don't know everything about hair. I would have thought there was more dispute to hair loss and I guess there is. Thanks for the heads up.

[latina]

honestly it can be genetic,....my bf had that when i met him and it keeps getting worse little at a time. I think that in the next few years we'll get him to do the bosley thing....its a bit expensive but the results look awesome!!!

[bcedhk]

honestly it can be genetic,....my bf had that when i met him and it keeps getting worse little at a time. I think that in the next few years we'll get him to do the bosley thing....its a bit expensive but the results look awesome!!!

maybe because it was you that made him bald.

[MadMax]

99% of male hair loss is genetic. It ocurrs because of receptor cells in the hair that is susceptible to DHT (dihydrotestosterone). It is also the source for BPH (benign prostate hyperplasia or enlarged prostate) Proscar came out in 1994 to combat BPH and hair growth was a side effect. Fast forward to 1996 and Proscar was repackaged in a lower dose wtih a new name and you have Propecia.

If you have hair loss, use Propecia and/or Rogaine. Those are the only two that work. Don't use lasers, don't bother with oils or shampoos. They don't stop true male pattern hairloss.

[Spidey]

99% of male hair loss is genetic. It ocurrs because of receptor cells in the hair that is susceptible to DHT (dihydrotestosterone). It is also the source for BPH (benign prostate hyperplasia or enlarged prostate) Proscar came out in 1994 to combat BPH and hair growth was a side effect. Fast forward to 1996 and Proscar was repackaged in a lower dose wtih a new name and you have Propecia.

If you have hair loss, use Propecia and/or Rogaine. Those are the only two that work. Don't use lasers, don't bother with oils or shampoos. They don't stop true male pattern hairloss.

lasers work almost the same way as rogaine does in that it stimulates the follicle and increases blood flow to those areas... i would stay away from propecia as the side effects are very bad.

[MadMax]

Lasers do not work. Alsmost all of them use diodes that operate in the 550nm wavelength. They have the same power requirements, put out the same light and are the same classification as laser pointers you can buy at Office Depot. The only time anyone sees a result is when they use the shampoo or lotion that comes with the treatment (or is bought separately as a requirement) and it always has minoxidil, the active ingredient in Rogaine.

[DHP 1]

where can i buy regan? shampoo locally?

[Psykopathik]

Use proscar. The generic form of propecia/rogaine. Cheaper and does exactly same thing. Same medicine. Tablet form. ask your doctor. Anything else is snake oil in a pretty box.

Why buy monster cable when monoprice is just as good for less.

Lasers...some people will believe anything. Ill come smack your forehead a few time I guarantee your blood flow will increase and you will still be bald.
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[shawnly1000]

Proscar (finasteride) is the generic form of propecia, Rogaine is compelely different it's minoxidil.

[Gnomes]

Anyone considered or did hair transplant? There seems to be a number of sites that pops up:
Hair Transplants | Hair Transplant Surgery | Hasson & Wong (http://www.hassonandwong.com/)
Hair Transplant Center Vancouver, BC - Look Your Best (http://www.htvancouver.com/)

No idea what is reputable. Price looks different too (hasson is 10-15k, htv is 7-9k)

[Hondaracer]

Hasson and Wong are considered amongst the best in the world from what I've read which is why they are so much
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[Gnomes]

I called and spoke to Hair transplant center. They seem pretty awesome. Part of Skin center near vgh. Affiliated with UBC. Hasson + Wong using their technique. 30% cheaper.

[Spidey]

anyone try or heard of this? Topical Spironolactone 5% - Discount Combos - Cheap! (http://www.hairlosstalk.com/shop/topical-spironolactone-combo.html)

[mr_chin]

Been using rogaine now for almost 2 months, maybe 2 - 4 times a week. I can see significant improvements. There are some weird side effects though, but it's nothing to worry about.

[Spidey]

Been using rogaine now for almost 2 months, maybe 2 - 4 times a week. I can see significant improvements. There are some weird side effects though, but it's nothing to worry about.

why are you only using it 2-4 times a week

[mr_chin]

why are you only using it 2-4 times a week

It says use it twice a day but I forget to sometimes.
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[drunkhomer]

Hasson and Wong are world class

[mas604]

anyone actually gone through hair transplant?

[Spidey]

anyone actually gone through hair transplant?

I have not, but be prepared to be on Propecia even after your surgery to retain the hair you DO have...

[MadMax]

I called and spoke to Hair transplant center. They seem pretty awesome. Part of Skin center near vgh. Affiliated with UBC. Hasson + Wong using their technique. 30% cheaper.

Yes, I'm quoting a 2 year old post but it is complete horsesh*t. H&W doe NOT use the techniques of HTC. H&W invented the "Lateral Slit" technique where they use custom cut blades to make incisions, not needles. If you take some time to research online you'll see that they constantly get recognition for awesome results and they use HD video very effectively to show the details of their results. HTC? Search online and there is barely any mention of them.

[MadMax]

anyone actually gone through hair transplant?


www.hairtransplantmentor.com

[Spidey]

scalp pigmentation is the biggest joke. it looks HORRIBLE. just look at Joey Lawrence.

[Stormspirit]

Propecia

[BrRsn]

bump!

Anyone using propecia (finasteride) regularly care to chime in on their results + side effects?

Cost is a moot point (in Canada anyways), and the efficacy has been shown to be around ~85% -- but how many of you are suffering from the side effects?



... posting this is making me feel fucking old :okay:

[etodac]

Has anyone tried different forms of minoxidil like foam vs gels vs droplets? Also, any difference between the brands other than %?

[jlo mein]

Where are you guys getting the cheapest legit minoxidil?

I last looked at the Kirkland one at Costco a few years ago and I think it was ~$40 for a one month portion?

[racerman88]

You can try asking your doctor for a prescription as well b/c there is a stronger dosage.
This way you can try writing it off on your extended health insurance

[mciroc]

Bamboo Silica is a great product, its not a miracle, but will provide similar results to biotin but stronger. A great addition to try

[etodac]

Has anyone tried this?

Original Mane ?n Tail Shampoo - The Original Mane 'n Tail | Personal Care (http://manentail.com/products/the-original-mane-n-tail-shampoo/)

[mr_chin]

Has anyone tried this?

Original Mane ?n Tail Shampoo - The Original Mane 'n Tail | Personal Care (http://manentail.com/products/the-original-mane-n-tail-shampoo/)

Sodium Lauryl Sulfate... no thanks

[AudreyTenorio]

I have a similar problem. My scalp is little itchy too.

[fuc|(_off]

anyone try priorin? an over the counter drug. been reading about finasteride and a bit worried about the side effects.

https://www.londondrugs.com/priorin-hair-growth-capsules---60s/L8830705.html?cgid=healthbeauty-haircare-hairregrowth

[tegra7]

Is Minoxidil over the counter in Canada yet?

[racerman88]

It is for the lower concentration. You can get a higher concentration with a doctor's prescription


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[fuc|(_off]

The 5% minoxidil foam I was prescribed was over the counter at London Drugs. Comes in a 3 month supply box. People swear by propecia (finasteride) tablet though.

[mr_chin]

Gonna shave completely for the new years. Embrace the baldness.

[tegra7]

Been on 5% minoxidil liquid for 6 weeks now, only once a day though.

[racerman88]

The 5% minoxidil foam I was prescribed was over the counter at London Drugs. Comes in a 3 month supply box. People swear by propecia (finasteride) tablet though.



Propecia has side effects though


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[mr_chin]

Don't they all give you man boobs and shrink your penis? Or are they just myths?

When I was using Rogaine and notice weak erections, I stopped immediately. No hair is fine, can't get it up during sex is not.

[tegra7]

^How long were you on rogaine? I haven't noticed any dick issues.

[mr_chin]

^How long were you on rogaine? I haven't noticed any dick issues.

A month or so.

[StanleyR]

IMHO stress and shit diet are the main contributing factors to baldness.

...just my .02

[tegra7]

6 months I've been on 5% minoxidil once a day at night, and no results other than color less hair furs growing on my ears and cheeks.