[adiep1]

I am going to grade 12 and i'm thinking of applying to UBC Commerce... just wondering -- because supposedly UBC doesnt look at Provincial Exams anymore (i am still doing them anyways justt in case)--do you guys think UBC will have like entry exams or an exam of some sort? cuz with no regards to standardized testing, does that mean any goof can get in or what?
thanks.

[CRS]

Hmm they just won't count provincials (or wait to the very end to accept you).

You still need good grades. They aren't going to accept some retard w/ a C- average if that is what you're asking.

[Zerius]

you'd need a shitload of extracirriculars, that and a high school average

[nosleepboy87]

you'd need a shitload of extracirriculars, that and a high school average

you need a shitlaod of extracirriculars is true~!
i didn't get in and ended up in arts cuz i had good grades but did shit all outta skool besides party.

or....you can do wat one of my buddies did, the easy way,
go into arts and take commerce courses as electives and do good in 1st yr then transfer over
it delays your grad by 1/2 a yr:haha:

[misteranswer]

how can that delay your graduation by a year? They expect a good chunk of individuals to do 1st year in arts.

Lie on your supplemental. I know quite a few people from different years who've done that and have been accepted.

[adiep1]

you can do wat one of my buddies did, the easy way,
go into arts and take commerce courses as electives and do good in 1st yr then transfer over
it delays your grad by 1/2 a yr:haha:

LOL ya that was my backup plan in case i dont get accepted. Thanks for the replies everyone.

I have alot of extra-curricular activities in my grade 11 year, would it be applicable??

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

since when did schools even give a shit about extra curricular activities for an undergraduate degree?

[+Kardboard+]

since when did schools even give a shit about extra curricular activities for an undergraduate degree?
Since the Sauder school went to broad-based admissions in 2004. ;)

Pretty much what's been said is true. Sauder is a kick-ass place to go, but you better be prepared to work your ass off AND be able to party like it's 1999....all the way until your grad in 2012 (or so, depending on whether you do co-op, exchange, etc. hahaha).

[nosleepboy87]

sauder people study? wow.....thats amazing :P

[Wanderer]

since when did schools even give a shit about extra curricular activities for an undergraduate degree?

more competitive/professional schools require extracurricular. i am a pharmacy student at UBC n from the application process, what i hear from people and acceptance/rejection, extra curricular could mean just as much as academic.

[kaitamasaki]

yeah commerce is intense to get into... my friends from high school with high 80s low 90s couldn't get in. of everyone i know, only one of my friends got in, and that was with a carefully crafted supplementary application.

[jurson]

all about ur supplementary app. and yes lots of partying. but also if you dont' get it right away you can always try transferring in after first year, I know a couple ppl that did that

[Wanderer]

there is also SFU business for those who dont want to wait for a year. rumors has it that SFU business is better than UBC commerce =X

[+Kardboard+]

all about ur supplementary app. and yes lots of partying. but also if you dont' get it right away you can always try transferring in after first year, I know a couple ppl that did that
Many do, it's hard, but doable.
there is also SFU business for those who dont want to wait for a year. rumors has it that SFU business is better than UBC commerce =X
And the n00bs weigh in. :p SFU Business is different, not necessarily better. For example, accounting is really strong at both schools, but for finance, you're way better off at UBC. MIS might be stronger at SFU though.

[Wanderer]

Many do, it's hard, but doable.

And the n00bs weigh in. :p SFU Business is different, not necessarily better. For example, accounting is really strong at both schools, but for finance, you're way better off at UBC. MIS might be stronger at SFU though.

its just what i heard... i am in pharmacy n i dont care much for business :\ just what my frds in business/commerce tell me

[marty123]

I actually got in 3 years ago and basically my advice to you is to make your supplement shine since they accept a lot of people as long as you are over 84 average but its the supplement form that seperates the ones that get in and the ones that gets rejected. I wasn't the hardest worker in highschool and just managed an A average but I made my supplement fly. The 10 extracirricular activities, you better at least get 8 or 9. As for the paragraphs, don't just spend 10 minutes writting it, it took me 3 days to make sure mine was good and try to make your story unique. Basically what I'm trying to say it, fill the form out as much as possible and make sure its good enough to make them notice you.

[hkRicer]

this is off topic. but nice choice on commerce. I heard commerce and Art is where all the hot asian girls are going into

[tiger_handheld]

dude .. have you seen the movie 21 ...... tell the UBC people something that will stand out , and baffle their admin , n u'll get in .....

gigin: commerce has hot chicks?

[adiep1]

I heard commerce and Art is where all the hot asian girls are going into

LOL...hahah arts or commerce is where i really wanna go into... and that is one of the reasons why :haha:

[Ready2Rumble]

Probably off topic... but did anyone transfer from Applied Science to Arts in UBC? (weird question...i know) I am going to Applied Science in Sept, but is it possible to transfer to Arts/Commerce going into the 2nd year?

I am asking this because I really really regret not choosing Arts as second choice as Commerce rejected me...Now, it is too late to switch to Arts since school is going to very soon : (

[nosleepboy87]

use ur electives to take a some art courses u think u are interseted in and then see if you really wanna transfer in the end. the answer is yes you can transfer but it may delay your graduation....my buddy did that in 3rd yr...he went from applied science to arts....and well.....he is in 7th year now

[marty123]

If you're talking about fobby honger chicks then yes theres tons. If you're talking about white washed or white chicks in general, there are some in commerce but not tons, arts and forestry is where you'll find those.

[+Kardboard+]

If you're talking about fobby honger chicks then yes theres tons. If you're talking about white washed or white chicks in general, there are some in commerce but not tons, arts and forestry is where you'll find those.
Sure there are! Well, there were when I got in lol...but it seems like you're just a year or so more junior than I? haha White ladies FTW lol

[all-acie]

Hey, im trying to head into Commerce too, wondering what are some good things to say in my supplemental application?

[CP.AR]

Hey, im trying to head into Commerce too, wondering what are some good things to say in my supplemental application?

be as BIG OF A SUCK UP AS YOU POSSIBLY CAN. Also, mention how you can lead and can make quick, educated decisions. But mostly the suck up part.

[woob]

Probably off topic... but did anyone transfer from Applied Science to Arts in UBC? (weird question...i know) I am going to Applied Science in Sept, but is it possible to transfer to Arts/Commerce going into the 2nd year?

Yes it's possible.

[wstce92]

Probably off topic... but did anyone transfer from Applied Science to Arts in UBC? (weird question...i know) I am going to Applied Science in Sept, but is it possible to transfer to Arts/Commerce going into the 2nd year?

I am asking this because I really really regret not choosing Arts as second choice as Commerce rejected me...Now, it is too late to switch to Arts since school is going to very soon : (

I know two people that's done it (switch from engineering to comm)... and a lot of people who have tried and failed.
1st year engineering course load is pretty brutal, lots of people don't make it through, let alone get a good enough average to transfer into comm. I mean, I'm not saying you won't be able to get a good average in engineering, but to play it safe I'd suggest taking a arts/comm course load instead, which you'll need to talk to a engineering advisor about as they need to know you won't be taking any engineering courses. I don't think you'll have any problems in terms of eligibility for enrolling in any arts courses, as I didn't when I wanted to transfer faculties.
If you know engineering isn't your thing, best switch out now, rather then 3 years into it like me.

[sekin67835]

Probably off topic... but did anyone transfer from Applied Science to Arts in UBC? (weird question...i know) I am going to Applied Science in Sept, but is it possible to transfer to Arts/Commerce going into the 2nd year?

I am asking this because I really really regret not choosing Arts as second choice as Commerce rejected me...Now, it is too late to switch to Arts since school is going to very soon : (

What was your avg for applied science ( this is engineering correct?)

[kaitamasaki]

if you are capable of transferring to commerce from engineering 1st year you would need a decent average... 70+, maybe 75+?

With that average you might be able to get into civil or mech 2nd year, which are the more competitive choices. you should give it a decent thought first. you have to stay on track though, because making yourself go to a 8 AM class in bad weather every morning takes discipline... haha

[Ready2Rumble]

^Thanks for everyone's feedback!

I actually didn't bother applying for comm because it was really hard to get a decent average in the first year, lol. My average was definitely not high enough for the transfer.

I settled with EE traditional, and I highly recommend this program!

[all-acie]

any suggestions on some of the "suck ups" i should include? lol

[adiep1]

naw dont suck up. just go all out in ur app. show them that you rly rly want to be in sauder. thats all you gotta do

[van_driver]

make things you've done seem more important then they really are

[adiep1]

make things you've done seem more important then they really are

+1 :thumbsup:

[ShadowBun]

^ best advice


trust me in university... butter up ur BS and suck up skills if you are a girl

[Saywhat?]

you need a shitlaod of extracirriculars is true~!
i didn't get in and ended up in arts cuz i had good grades but did shit all outta skool besides party.

or....you can do wat one of my buddies did, the easy way,
go into arts and take commerce courses as electives and do good in 1st yr then transfer over
it delays your grad by 1/2 a yr:haha:

Just to clarify -graduation isn't delayed at all if you transfer into commerce after doing one year in arts. It does mean, however, that you pretty much take all commerce courses in second year. This is what I did.

[MrCrawford]

make things you've done seem more important then they really are


Incorrect, what you need to do is tell them what you acheived while doing what you were doing.

SAR
Situational (What society/club/group/activity)
Action (what you were doing)
Results (as a result, what did you learn, acheive, accomplish)

When they ask for leadership. Talk about:

Cadets <- All my cadet friends got into Commerce talking about it. I got in the same way.

Duke of Edinborough if you have it
Competitive swimming/sports

Talk about teamsports, how you communicate and motivate one another.


In terms of admission: the better the supplemental, the lower your marks can be. When I say low, 85% is bare minimum.



@The comment about SFU vs UBC Commerce.

You base this comment on what facts? Commerce program in SFU and UBC are different in people, culture, and experience. You can not compare. In the end, it is YOURSELF that will make your "degree" worth anything.

UBC is more worldknown making relocating easier. Especially if you are going into finance/wall street.

UBC has a program called PFM. Portfolio Fund Management where a group of 20 students manage a 5 million portfolio and does presentations to the stakeholders. A must-try experience for those who want to go into finance.

For Consulting, they have the SCMP program where they train you for consulting interviews and helps you earn you an interview with the big consulting firms including BCG, ACCENTURE, MCKINSEY. Increases your chances from 0.04% to 20% hiring rate, if you are successful in the program.

[Benz_05TSX]

sauder sucks... I have been there for 4 yrs and it really isnt that great. Tuitions and fees are a ripped off. There used to be hot chicks, not... not much, except some 1-2 yrs... its not as great as ppl think unless you are a true nerd and love to study. Then congratz!

[+Kardboard+]

sauder sucks... I have been there for 4 yrs and it really isnt that great. Tuitions and fees are a ripped off. There used to be hot chicks, not... not much, except some 1-2 yrs... its not as great as ppl think unless you are a true nerd and love to study. Then congratz!
Wow. Sounds like things have changed. I had a blast there, loved every minute of it. :thumbsup:

[all-acie]

Anybody have any idea what i could write for what leadership means to me and how i apply to it?

[CRS]

Anybody have any idea what i could write for what leadership means to me and how i apply to it?

It wouldn't mean anything to you if it wasn't your own ideas.

Think about it. To me (feel free to use this) leadership is not taking where your followers/peers/group wants to go but where they need to go. It isn't always the most comfortable or direct route but if it needs to taken, it is your job to show your followers/peers/group why they are taking it.

[all-acie]

thanks for your help CRS, i guess i should take my time to think over it.

I have another question. Wondering if i should put participating in a team in two extracurricular activities slot or count it as one since i have been in the team for two years?

And i am stumbling upon what i should put for my additional information

[LanEvoMR]

Sorry to break it to you, but if you're asking for advice from RS, it's unlikely that you will get in.

[all-acie]

o well, atleast i got something out of this thread
i am still waiting for a reply, its been a few weeks now damn

[Purely]

Just to clarify -graduation isn't delayed at all if you transfer into commerce after doing one year in arts. It does mean, however, that you pretty much take all commerce courses in second year. This is what I did.

How hard is it to transfer from UBC arts to Commerce? What is the GPA needed to guarantee a successful transfer?

[Vinny G]

And the n00bs weigh in. :p SFU Business is different, not necessarily better. For example, accounting is really strong at both schools, but for finance, you're way better off at UBC. MIS might be stronger at SFU though.

MIS is stronger at SFU for sure. 80% of Business/Commerce students do accounting anyways so it doesn't even matter where you go. For the record, I hate accountants and their big 4 culture. Bunch of fakes.

As for chicks in business/commerce... either school will have tons of hot chicks in year 1... then they slowly get weeded out until you're left with the Asian rainbow pants, circle glasses, pencil case-carrying chicks in your 400 level accounting classes... *shudder*

For what it's worth, I've also had a lot of UBC Science students tell me Business at SFU is better than UBC Commerce. Of course, they're science students so I don't really think they know what they're talking about.