[RSXmiloRSx]

hello, i am getting into the motorcycle scene, and have always wanted a bike ever since i can remember. i currently only have my N, and coming up on halfway to getting my real liscense. my question is, i heard it was easier, by easier, less steps involved, to get my motorcycle liscense when i ahve my full liscense VS with my new drivers liscense, any advice? thanks in advance

[racerman88]

get some driving experience first, then look into your class 6.

[k3lv]

Its true I asked the same question, ICBC will be able to explain to you better but simply if you have your class 5 you can take the knowledge test then bike school and after that the road test. There is a pamphlet at the ICBC centers you can pick up, don't even need to talk to the receptionist.

[apharmdb]

Not really license related but it's coming from years or riding and ownng tons of different bikes. Do yourself a favor and get a good bike to learn on (meaning don't run out and buy that Hayabusa). There are plenty of awesome looking and riding bikes these days that are still great to learn on and are fun to boot. Have fun and ride safe.

[fille]

i would also suggest getting your class 5 first. you want experience on the road and make your mistakes in a cage.
years of driving in a car teaches you life savings skills you cannot get even if you were the best handler of a motorbike around.

[racerman88]

big difference between driving and riding. No cage to protect you when riding. Have to be more careful. I lose count of the number of times that I have been cut off due to cagers not signaling a lane change or not shoulder checking.

[slammer111]

According to my instructor, there's actually a loophole in current ICBC rules (as of June 2008 at least). If you have your car L or N, go and get your full bike license. Bikes don't have that L/N probation period, so you can get the whole thing done in a month if you want. And when you pass.. Class 5 + 6, at the same time. :)

With that said though, after you get that full license, you may want to rack up more clicks in a car. Way too easy to get yourself hurt on a bike if you don't know how to ride defensively.

[SumAznGuy]

According to my instructor, there's actually a loophole in current ICBC rules (as of June 2008 at least). If you have your car L or N, go and get your full bike license. Bikes don't have that L/N probation period, so you can get the whole thing done in a month if you want. And when you pass.. Class 5 + 6, at the same time. :)

With that said though, after you get that full license, you may want to rack up more clicks in a car. Way too easy to get yourself hurt on a bike if you don't know how to ride defensively.

Interesting. When I got my liscence, it was class 6 liscence if you had your class 5. If you were an N or L (class 7) you would be getting a class 8 liscence.

[slammer111]

Interesting. When I got my liscence, it was class 6 liscence if you had your class 5. If you were an N or L (class 7) you would be getting a class 8 liscence.You still need your Class 8 (the bike L) before learning to ride. What I meant is that if you hold both 7 + 8 (instead of just 8) when you pass your 6, you get 5 + 6 at the same time.

They give you 5 along with 6 because they figure if you can ride w/o getting yourself killed, you're probably good to go in a car as well :)

[impactX]

... That's the same as having a Class 5 license while taking a test to get your motorcycle license, you will get your Class 6.

[kyoshi]

Do you guys have anying riding schools you can recommend?

[Gh0stRider]

PRS or BCSC

[stevo911_]

get your class 5 first, if you have your class 5 it takes 30 days to get your full liscence

[slammer111]

... That's the same as having a Class 5 license while taking a test to get your motorcycle license, you will get your Class 6.For us with full Class 5, yeah, the bike test gives you a 6 on top.

My advice was directed at those who do NOT have their full Class 5, and are stuck in the probationary L (6 mos?) and N (2yrs?) periods for their cars. So if you get your car L, then bike L, and get your full bike license, ICBC gives you BOTH your FULL CAR AND BIKE licenses. So you can have full Class 5+6 at age 16 if you want :)

+1 for PRS.

[crazyturtle]

so can you get a motorcycle licesne in 30 days with a class 7 (N) car

[slammer111]

so can you get a motorcycle licesne in 30 days with a class 7 (N) carWell, technically it's 31 days, but yeah, you get the idea. :)

[crazyturtle]

but with a class 7, you can't get the class 6 in 31 days?

[slammer111]

but with a class 7, you can't get the class 6 in 31 days?You still need your class 8 for at least 30 days (restriction when you get your class 8) before you can go for your Class 6 test. However, if you happen to have a class 7 at the time your pass your Class 6, ICBC gives you BOTH 5 AND 6 instead of 6 alone.

[Leopold Stotch]

^ wow what a loophole.

that's pretty awesome. but for me i can't get my class 8 because my mom wouldn't sign for me, so i'm now 20 and i'm going to do it in the spring lol

[00EM1]

Note: You only have to go through the Graduated Licensing Program once. For example, if you hold both a Class 7 novice and Class 8 novice licence, to exit GLP you may take either the Class 5 or Class 6 road test. If you hold a Class 7 novice licence and a Class 8 learner licence and wish to exit GLP, you would take the Class 5 road test. Your Class 8 learner licence would then be converted to a Class 6 learner licence.
That is from ICBC's website, but the class 8 "N" stage is still 2 years so there is no real loophole. All this means is that it dose not make a diffrence when you get your bike L, it wont be faster if you wait tell you get your class 5

[slammer111]

^ No no no, I specifically remember my instructor at PRS telling a young guy in my cohort that he was going to bypass his Class 7 and move straight to Class 5 if he passed his Class 6 road test. The guy had his 7N (and obviously his 8L) at the time if I remember correctly. He then smiled at us and said it's one of the loopholes that ICBC hadn't closed yet. This was in June 2008.

Mind you, ICBC might've gotten smart since :)

[00EM1]

It is true that you will bypass ftom your class 7 "n" and go right to your class 5 if you pass your class 6 road test. It still takes 2 years as a N (motorcycle or car) so theres no fast track, you just dont have to take you class 5 test if you have your class 7 "n" and get your class 6, or you dont have to take your class 6 road test if you have your 8 "n" and pass your class 5.
All the loophole is doing is eliminating one road test so anyway you look at it you have to take 3 road tests and wait two years as a N.

[simsimi1004]

does anyone know if i need parents permission for motorcycle license even though im class 5?
im still 18 though.. 19 in july but i just got my class 5 cuz i took GLP...
i wanna get my class 6L now so i can be riding in the summer time......

[Gh0stRider]

you dont need their permission.

[mc25]

Whooooa. So I had my Class (7?) but that expired, but I currently have my full drivers License, class 5. So if i went to get my full bike license, it would take how long? 30 days only for class 6?

[Graeme S]

I just got my class 6L (already have a class 5) today; it says "MST may not be taken prior to May 18; Road test may not be taken before Jun 3".

[stevo911_]

Congrats dude! Its alotta fun! (when you're not waiting weeks for a stupid simple little gasket that they charge 17 dollars for and you're bike wont run til you replace it)


Whooooa. So I had my Class (7?) but that expired, but I currently have my full drivers License, class 5. So if i went to get my full bike license, it would take how long? 30 days only for class 6?
31 days start to finish

[socialenemy69]

The 14 day wait for the MST/MSA is not required if you take a ICBC accredited school. IE I did my MSA at the school within a week of getting my learners and I was able to ride on the road by myself. The Road test I still had to wait the month, but the school got me more than ready for it. I got two demerits for shifting in an intersection while turning, ha ha.

[mc25]

So i was driving with my learners license for a while, and then let it lapse, it sucks i need to take the whole thing over again .Ah well. Good to know ill only need to invest around a month or so into it.

[JSALES]

when you're going for your road test, can ICBC provide you with a bike or you have to bring your own?

[TheSalesman]

bring your own

[s13_drifter]

Do you guys have anying riding schools you can recommend?
PRS is a good school. I used everything I learned at PRS and had a solid ride on my roadtest.

[i_eat_r1ce]

i'm planning on going to PRS @ the start of next season. does anyone want to join me?

[racerman88]

they still have room right now

[stewie]

i'm planning on going to PRS @ the start of next season. does anyone want to join me?

tis an amazing school, i had my 6L, signed up for their school a few days later, did the 4 or 5 night time classroom sessions, got on a bike for the very first time on a saturday, on sunday i did my MSA test and i passed without a single demerit. rode with my L for about 2 weeks, called icbc, booked an apt for 25 days ahead, used prs' bike, passed easily!

doubt id have passed without the shit they taught me!

[jackmeister]

Has anyone gone through BCSC?

I just passed the written test but its kind of late in the year to do it so I am planning to take a course next year. My initial choice is BCSC because its very close to where I work, which is not too far from where I live. But seeing that everyone here is recommending PRS in Surrey, is it that much better to justify going all the way to Surrey just to take a course?

[Honyoung]

Has anyone gone through BCSC?

I just passed the written test but its kind of late in the year to do it so I am planning to take a course next year. My initial choice is BCSC because its very close to where I work, which is not too far from where I live. But seeing that everyone here is recommending PRS in Surrey, is it that much better to justify going all the way to Surrey just to take a course?

i live in vancouver and took the course at PRS with no regrets
i do recomend it but i heard good things about BCSC too
in the end its up to you (pricewise, convenience)

[RRxtar]

Has anyone gone through BCSC?

I just passed the written test but its kind of late in the year to do it so I am planning to take a course next year. My initial choice is BCSC because its very close to where I work, which is not too far from where I live. But seeing that everyone here is recommending PRS in Surrey, is it that much better to justify going all the way to Surrey just to take a course?
BCSC is very very popular here in Kelowna. I strongly recommend them to all new riders.

[racerman88]

personal preference. You can look up the credentials of the instructors at PRS if you want.
Very nice guys.

http://www.pacificridingschool.com/

[Boardercross]

BCSC is very very popular here in Kelowna. I strongly recommend them to all new riders.

I heard BC Safety Council folded it's motorcycle training program this fall?

[timmytimtimtim]

i'm planning on going to PRS @ the start of next season. does anyone want to join me?

I signed up for PRS nightschool A starting March 1st. Anyone else in that class? I think there is a discount if two people join together, or show up together for the first class at least.

Pm me!
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[Honyoung]

I heard BC Safety Council folded it's motorcycle training program this fall?

i believe they went out of business
i think one of their instructors is at Pacific now

[xPhuong]

^ yep wayne is at prs very fun guy very serious kinda icbc guy though likes to follow rules!

[Honyoung]

^ lol so when u planning on changing the oil on your bike?

[TreeHugger]

I signed up for PRS nightschool A starting March 1st. Anyone else in that class? I think there is a discount if two people join together, or show up together for the first class at least.

Pm me!
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aww.. i'm starting on the 8th

[xPhuong]

at 50km thanks honyoung hahaha

[Jermyzy]

My wife is taking the course in May :p

[marky_21]

aww.. i'm starting on the 8th

im starting on the 8th too im doin weekend class...

[Jafrider]

i believe they went out of business
i think one of their instructors is at Pacific now

Yup - as of Oct 2009 BCSC had to close its doors unrelated to anything to do with the Motorcycle Program. Justice Institute of BC bought most of the bikes, the rights to the curriculum, just about everything else you need to run a school and hired most of the Instructors. Check them out at

http://learning.jibc.ca/TPOnline/TPOnline.dll/Public%20Course/COURSENO=COUR2010011812211805380241

They are doing the basic skills course and the traffic course as well.


Some of the senior instructors split off and set up Roadcraft Motorcycle Acadamy at http://www.roadcraftacademy.com/
They only do experienced rider courses - this will be the school to watch.

[i_eat_r1ce]

Just paid my deposit.
2 buddies & I are registered for March 22 @ PRS.

I really hope it won't rain during that week lol.
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[xPhuong]

WTF? Haha ^ buddy you want it to rain better to train and learn and drop their bike in the rain when its extra slippery than drop your own bike. Not saying you will bc I did haha
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[impactX]

It was fun as hell to learn riding at PRS during rain. I took the course in March 3 years back and there was snow on the side of the street. :lol good times.

[xPhuong]

hahaha that sounds like fun! So you in china now and don't ride in van?

[racerman88]

best to learn in the rain because it only gets easier in the dry

[JSALES]

anyone know when you get your bike license (Class 6L) if they issue you a separate license or do they take away your class 5 license and issue a whole new one with both? because i don't wanna have a license saying class 5 & class 6L

[Gh0stRider]

Class 6L is just a piece of paper, you still keep your class 5 one.

[!oHenry]

anyone know when you get your bike license (Class 6L) if they issue you a separate license or do they take away your class 5 license and issue a whole new one with both? because i don't wanna have a license saying class 5 & class 6L

They took my class 5 away and gave me a new one with 5 and 6 on it.

[Glaedr]

They took my class 5 away and gave me a new one with 5 and 6 on it.

^ Thats when you get your full Class 6 license, then they give you an interim Driver's License (piece of paper) with a Class 5/6, until your new card arrives in the mail.

But when you first get your class 6L you get a piece of paper.

[bcrdukes]

6L is a a yellow paper. You keep your 5 until you pass the 6 test in which you are issued a new one stating you have both 5 and 6 certification.

[!oHenry]

^^ Whoops misread the post. The 6L is just the yellow paper and it's good for one year.

[Skyos]

What if my Class 7 got suspend..? Do i have any way to get a class 8 or class 6?

[corollagtSr5]

Your prohibited from driving on the road, so no.

[xilley]

Your prohibited from driving on the road, so no.

so during this time, i cant even take my L for motorcycle?

and a friend just told me, if you dont return your ICBC driver license, they will start suspending you automatically after a month, is that true?
they only ask you to return it so you start your suspension sooner?

is what he said true? ^

[Skyos]

dang...thats means i will need to take public transportation for another 2 yrs....

stupid question here: do u guys think a 49cc scooter will get pull over? or have u guys seen any?

[Culverin]

Ouch man, what'd you do to get yanked off the road?


If I've got a car N, and a motorcycle L right now.
Is this what I'll still need to do?

- Parking lot bike test
- N Bike road test
- Full Car road test
- Full Bike road test

[Jermyzy]

Ouch man, what'd you do to get yanked off the road?


If I've got a car N, and a motorcycle L right now.
Is this what I'll still need to do?

- Parking lot bike test
- N Bike road test
- Full Car road test
- Full Bike road test

You only have to do one full road test. It's up to you whether you want to do it on the bike or the car

[Selanne_200]

I thought that you would need to do 2 separate road tests for your class 5 and class 6 since there are additional things you need to do on a bike that you don't need to do in a car. But there is not N bike road test, there's only the Parking lot bike test then the full class 6 road test.

[Culverin]

http://icbc.com/driver-licensing/getting-licensed/motorcycle-licence/motorcycle-first

I'm a bit confused.
I have an "N" right now, that's a class 7.

If I'm reading this right... I got my bike learners, class 8L
I can do my parking lot skills test after 1 month. (I think PRS handles this as well?)
Also, which 2 restrictions go away after I pass this?


But I'll be stuck with an "L", and can't do my road test for 1 year?

I think there's both a class 8 (N?) and a class 6 (full?)


Ugh, why couldn't they just throw up a proper flow chart. :failed:

[bcrdukes]

Because it's ICBC. :lol

[CharlieH]

passing the MST (parking lot exam done at icbc, or provided by PRS) will allow you to ride unsupervised by yourself from dawn til dusk. you're not allowed to carry any passengers or have any alcohol in your body. you're also required to have an L sign taped on your back/helmet or somewhere visible on the bike.

after 1 year, depending on whether you're eligible to take your class 5, you'll take either the 8N or the full class 6 (8N if you're not eligible for class 5 and class 6 if you are), which is the actual road test. upon receiving the 8N all of your restrictions will be removed, except for the alcohol limit. hope this helps!

[!oHenry]

http://icbc.com/driver-licensing/getting-licensed/motorcycle-licence/motorcycle-first

I'm a bit confused.
I have an "N" right now, that's a class 7.

If I'm reading this right... I got my bike learners, class 8L
I can do my parking lot skills test after 1 month. (I think PRS handles this as well?)
Also, which 2 restrictions go away after I pass this?


But I'll be stuck with an "L", and can't do my road test for 1 year?

I think there's both a class 8 (N?) and a class 6 (full?)


Ugh, why couldn't they just throw up a proper flow chart. :failed:

Yeah, i recommend you doing your class 5 first, so when you get your class 8, you only have to wait a month to get your full license. It's also better to get some more road experience first as well.

[xilley]

so during this time, i cant even take my L for motorcycle?

and a friend just told me, if you dont return your ICBC driver license, they will start suspending you automatically after a month, is that true?
they only ask you to return it so you start your suspension sooner?

is what he said true? ^

anyone able to answer my question? pleaseee :speechless:

[corollagtSr5]

you can pretend you never got the letter, but as soon as you get pulled over and they run your license, you'll get suspended. If you go to icbc, and try to get your motorcycle L, they will take away your license and suspend you. The only way, you can get your bike license is for you to dispute your tickets. When the dispute goes through, your warrant for your license is lifted, until you go to court. It says you have 30 days to dispute your ticket. However, sometimes you can get away with it mailing it late. I've done it before as late as 6 months, and it still went through.

[xilley]

i filed a late dispution at court, but for some fckkin reason ICBC said they never got it so they suspended me
should i go to court and ask again or just call the icbc head office

so the " after a month without surrending your license you will automatically start doing the suspension time " is bs?

[Culverin]

passing the MST (parking lot exam done at icbc, or provided by PRS) will allow you to ride unsupervised by yourself from dawn til dusk. you're not allowed to carry any passengers or have any alcohol in your body. you're also required to have an L sign taped on your back/helmet or somewhere visible on the bike.

after 1 year, depending on whether you're eligible to take your class 5, you'll take either the 8N or the full class 6 (8N if you're not eligible for class 5 and class 6 if you are), which is the actual road test. upon receiving the 8N all of your restrictions will be removed, except for the alcohol limit. hope this helps!

Ugh. Well that's just dumb.
I was just hoping to throw a bigger cylinder kit onto my scooter. But if I did, I wouldn't be able to ride at night?
:failed:

[Elder_MMHS]

A bigger cylinder has nothing to do with licensing unless you were exempt from having to get a class 6/8 under the limited speed motorcycle requirements. It is at the bottom of the page here:

http://www.icbc.com/driver-licensing/getting-licensed/types-licences

If that's the case... well, get a 7L -> 7 -> 5 -> 6L -> 6 or 8L -> 8 -> 6.

[Gambino]

I am so confused lol.

[bcrdukes]

^
That's nice. But please do not clutter up this thread.

[Culverin]

Hmmm,

I've have been riding my scooter for 1 year already with my car N.
I was planning to put in a 70cc or 86cc kit, but I need my motorcycle N for that.

That and the daylight hours for the next year, just for an extra 20cc confuse me.

Despite having my car N, it seems I still have to wait 1 year before I can do my motorcycle N.
Is there any sort of course or program I can take to reduce that waiting period?