Golds Gym Richmond [Archive] - REVscene Automotive Forum

RayBot

09-15-2008, 10:06 PM

anyone else join up there?>
i made the move. finally a gym worth going to in richmond. i was at fitness unlimited forever and that place is a hole with a shitty manager...

Yeah,...i hear stories about the manager. The guy is a cheapskate. My friend used to rent a spot for a kineseology clinic, and he tried to sue him for normal wear and tear.

Dude is a douche.

diesel_test

09-15-2008, 10:38 PM

where is the gold's gym at richmond located at?

AX.Deadpool

09-15-2008, 10:43 PM

where is the gold's gym at richmond located at?

riverport by the theaters and cyclone taylor.

but hey, is this place 24/7 or what? i got the flyer a fe wmonths ago before they opened up, but i dont remeber the hours of operation..

and compared to sports central, is this place better? price wise n service.

Thanks:thumbsup:

RayBot

09-15-2008, 11:29 PM

...formerly the Grizzlies practice facility.

Apparently there was an NBA franchise based in vancouver that used to practice there.

Liquid_o2

09-16-2008, 02:42 PM

Hmmm it's down the street from my work... interesting.

Richmond69er

09-16-2008, 07:45 PM

its a sickkkkkk gym...
pricing right now is 1$/day with a 200 initiation fee...

hal0g0dv2

09-16-2008, 08:02 PM

so thats like 500.600 iff u go 5 times a week
how long is the dollar a day

Jer3

09-16-2008, 08:09 PM

i've been considering gold's ever since i heard it was opening at riverport. i remember someone at RFD releasing the rates for preregistration. it went something like
$200 initiation +$7 a week
$100 initiation +$9 a week

not sure how rates are since i've never been to a non-community centre gym.

6thGear.

01-09-2009, 09:45 PM

Bumping up an bit of on old thread, better than starting a new one I guess. Has anyone joined yet? I made the move yesterday. Right now the pricing I got is $82.95 initiation fee (taxes in) $21/biweekly, works out to something like $43-ish taxes in per month. If anyone is thinking of joining, the price will go up anytime. So they way they are doing it right now is, they have a 200 people bracket. So everytime the 200th person signs up, the price goes up or something like that. Either way, I got a pretty good one. 2 year contract and its transferable anytime. After 2 years, I get to retain the same price. Considering I paid $33 or something like that at Sportcentral, I think for the extra $10 its a HUGE upgrade.

Place isn't completely done, there is still some construction going on. But the main gym area is open. It is smaller than Sportcentral, but damn the machines are nice. I didn't get to try any of the machines though. All the cardio machines have individual tv's with cable. You can even plug your ipod in. I'm not sure if it will charge it, but its definitely nice to have. A big plus for me is that its on my way home, so now I don't have that excuse to not workout if I work late. Definitely beats having to leave work in Ladner, driving up to Sportcentral then back to my house in south Richmond.:thumbsup:

Ulic Qel-Droma

01-10-2009, 05:45 AM

do you get access to all golds gym around the world internationally?

how many squat racks do they have?

what are the hours?

im with fitness world but they're kinda shitty, the 24/7 one is too far from where i live, but im only paying 20 bucks per month.

i was thinking of sports central, cuz i live in richmond now.

Richmond69er

01-10-2009, 07:35 AM

you get access to all golds internationally... but i think theres a limit on how many days u can go to em. but with joining at richmond im pretty sure u get access to all the golds in the lower mainland including UBC golds....

pricing is posted right above your post! the prices went up. and i think they're going to go up higher yet.

the main wieght room area is finished but the final setup of the equiptment isnt finished yet. but they arent charging anyone yet to workout. they are gonna start processing payments and whatnot once the gym is fully opened, which is pretty cool.

6thGear.

01-10-2009, 12:16 PM

yes, you get all lower mainland access. The initiation fee is to hold your membership spot, so I am garanteed the $43/ month. I think the final price will be $70-something a month. Like I said, pricing is based on 200 people bracket. As for the gym, they have 3 sqaut racks, 2 free standing and 1 fixed. They don't have the chin up bars on them either, which is another good thing. Hours for the time being is 8am-8pm. iirc, once they are fully open its 8am - 12am.

Richmond69er

01-10-2009, 12:35 PM

IIRC the hours will change to 6am-midnight.
yeah you signed at the rate of 43$ a month. and your guaranteed to renew at that rate. the price after all the promotions are done the gym rate is going to be around 80$.

i lucked out and signed up in the beginning so i pay 1$/day.

mazdaboi

01-13-2009, 09:20 AM

I got in early too.... The gym is pretty good considering all the machines are all new. Can't wait to see how the place looks when it's all finished.

Richard123

01-13-2009, 06:03 PM

nice i saw a mail out add today sould check it out

rickross888

01-14-2009, 09:00 PM

so i can use my gold's gym membership card from ubc and use it at the richmond one too right? even for the burnaby one? i don't mind going to all of them loll

mazdaboi

01-16-2009, 02:41 PM

so i can use my gold's gym membership card from ubc and use it at the richmond one too right? even for the burnaby one? i don't mind going to all of them loll

Yeah you can go to any of the locations, but you are only allowed a certain amt for some reason.... When I joined, I asked if I could go to another location so the guy gave me a punch card... But I don't see what they could do to stop someone from going to different locations...

RacePace

01-16-2009, 03:00 PM

^maybe because the rates are different by each location. So if people just wanted to go to the Burnaby location but found out Richmond had better prices, they'd just sign up at Richmond and go to Burnaby

m4k4v4li

01-18-2009, 02:43 AM

Mr.JDM

01-18-2009, 10:19 AM

just went yesterday to check out the place. pretty nice equipments lets you hook up your ipod or watch tv while doing your workout. the rate the guy gave me was $79 security plus tax and $42 month or basically $21 bi-weekly. all the classes are included.

RacePace

01-18-2009, 12:12 PM

for ppl who are gym rats i can see why theyd want to upgrade to better gyms
but ppl that just go say 2-3 times a week... i dont see how its appealing? why do u guys like nicer gyms? is it worth the xtra $

I think the main thing is there's enough equipment when you want to do your routine, there's weights around when you need it, when you want to do something, shit ain't broken.

But I got the December deal at Sportcentral, $199 to extend my contract for a whole year? I'll take that

mazdaboi

01-19-2009, 12:06 PM

^ I concur.... As long as there's enough machines so you don't have to wait, I'm good to go. The only reason I joined Gold's was that I don't have to pay for any of the classes and they have an actual basketball gym.... not that pathetic 1 hoop they have at Sport Central.

6thGear.

01-19-2009, 05:52 PM

All the classes are included? SWEET!:thumbsup:

Richmond69er

01-19-2009, 09:27 PM

^^ thats what theyre saying but they seem to of changed there tune lately...

allie that works in the front is cute hahaha

rickross888

01-19-2009, 10:05 PM

ok so i answered my own question. i asked the manager at gold's and he told me that being a member of ubc gold's, i'm able to go workout at the ubc, langley and richmond locations of gold's as they are included. the burnaby one, however, isn't included because it's owned by a different guy. just thought i'd let you guys know.

mazdaboi

01-20-2009, 07:40 AM

^^ thats what theyre saying but they seem to of changed there tune lately...

allie that works in the front is cute hahaha

hahahah.... as long as her braces don't get caught on your magic stick, it's all good!!

Richmond69er

01-20-2009, 07:56 AM

^^ hahaha they moved tara to a different office she deals with corporate things.
daisy (the tall girl who signs ppl up now) is dating a buddy of mine.
and allie she just has that *give it to me* look to her HAHAHAHAHA

diesel_test

01-20-2009, 07:59 AM

Richmond69er

01-20-2009, 08:43 AM

so, how much is it per month?

read through this thread. a few posts above yours is the current pricing.
and if ur to lazy to do that pick up the phone and call them.;)

keepz1

01-20-2009, 10:03 AM

I think the main thing is there's enough equipment when you want to do your routine, there's weights around when you need it, when you want to do something, shit ain't broken.

But I got the December deal at Sportcentral, $199 to extend my contract for a whole year? I'll take that

i also work out at sports central the equipment there is getting old..might have to check out golds when my membership expires

any hot chicks at golds?

Richmond69er

01-20-2009, 11:47 AM

from what ive seen. no.

mazdaboi

01-20-2009, 12:03 PM

I've seen 1 group of girls.... but they wear shitload of makeup and jewellery and they lug around their designer purses with them. I've dubbed them the "Gucci crew" hahaha

When do you usually work out?? I'm there 4:30ish... trying to go mon-fri and rest on weekends.

RacePace

01-20-2009, 12:19 PM

Well what kind of girls do you expect to sign up to Gold's gym at the early stages of it's opening

mazdaboi

01-20-2009, 12:22 PM

^ hawt ones.... who work out in the nude!!!

Mr.JDM

01-20-2009, 12:54 PM

just signed up. they still have the 21 bi-weekly deal going.

+1 on the brace wearing chick ahha

Richmond69er

01-20-2009, 03:00 PM

im usually workin out at around 5pm-7pm mon-fri

if you want hot girls join at nash center.
if you want a gym you can train at and focus....join golds

hahahahahaha yeah dude shes cute

Mr.JDM

01-20-2009, 03:53 PM

too bad gym's closed till weekend or monday. something to do with them fixing the roof and shit.

mazdaboi

01-20-2009, 08:10 PM

yeah!!! I get there and there's like 3 cars in the lot so I thought I'd get the whole gym to myself!!! hahaha Walk in and see the closure sign.... freakin gay...

143what

01-20-2009, 11:13 PM

check out the link if you're around surrey/langley area.

http://www.revolutionfightteam.com/Message_Board.htmll

6thGear.

01-20-2009, 11:25 PM

^^ thats what theyre saying but they seem to of changed there tune lately...

allie that works in the front is cute hahaha

Who's allie? that jb looking chick? I don't know any of the girls name, but last week, this 1 chick at the front was kinda flirting with me. I don't remember the whole conversation, but I told her she won't remember me or my name the next time I sign in. So the whole time I was there, she kept calling my name and asked me which day I was going to come in to work out. Then she gave me her whole schedule. lol. I should get her name next time, just for shits!

And I've seen a few hot chicks there already. Um....1 asian, 2 white girls. But the uggo's definitely outweigh the hotties.

143what

01-20-2009, 11:34 PM

. But the uggo's definitely outweigh the hotties.

haha, this definitely applies to almost everywhere except fitness world apparently.

6thGear.

01-20-2009, 11:39 PM

haha...I know!!!! I'd go to FW if it wasn't for there ridiculously stupid plans. Its funny, when I was still at Sport Central, well one of my last visits, there was this smoking hot blonde that was working out with those performance trainers. The whole lot of guys kept checking her out and not to be racist the brown guys were the worst offenders

143what

01-20-2009, 11:40 PM

haha, "worst offenders"

6thGear.

01-20-2009, 11:43 PM

uhh....that reminds me, I should go cancel my membership at Sport Central...haha

143what

01-21-2009, 01:57 AM

sport central.... is that near river road near the night market? it's opened 24 hours right? i think i've been there before.. i had a good experience there.

keepz1

01-21-2009, 08:09 AM

any roid monkeys at golds?

Richmond69er

01-21-2009, 11:11 AM

^ do you even have to ask....

Mr.JDM

01-23-2009, 10:11 AM

anyone know if they are open again?

6thGear.

02-03-2009, 06:13 PM

im usually workin out at around 5pm-7pm mon-fri

if you want hot girls join at nash center.
if you want a gym you can train at and focus....join golds

hahahahahaha yeah dude shes cute

Hey! I'm there around the same time too! I just came home from gold's too! We should sport our RS lanyard's to spot each other.:)

JSilver

02-03-2009, 06:43 PM

im usually workin out at around 5pm-7pm mon-fri

if you want hot girls join at nash center.
if you want a gym you can train at and focus....join golds

hahahahahaha yeah dude shes cute
Golds at Gilmore already has a hand full of eye candys I assure you. I'm sure this Golds in Richmond soon will as well.

Richmond69er

02-03-2009, 08:06 PM

.....

6thGear.

02-03-2009, 09:11 PM

I'm very sure I've seen your truck there or at least one that looks very similar. I drive the 07 gunmetal WRX. Haven't seen any other 07 wrx's there. If not, look for a short cbc guy wearing plain white tshirt and black nike dri-fit shorts.(not skin-tight). I always wear the same clothes. You'll know its me when you see me move from the wave machine -> stationary bike -> squat cage for deadlifts. And then talking to Ally afterwards:D I'll be there this thur.

diesel_test

03-10-2009, 09:43 AM

is the gym nearly finshed yet, how does it look?

chun

03-10-2009, 10:44 AM

Richmond69er

03-10-2009, 01:22 PM

Seems to me by the other posts in the thread that they're opened already

I signed up in December but haven't switched out of my local community centre routine yet. How's the equipment and everything there? I don't recall getting a card or whatever either, what's the deal

If you signed up back in december and paid your enrollment fee then ur set.
u can come work out at the gym. the equiptment is second to none.

they havent finished the gym and havent had a grand opening yet. so as of now they are not collecting any monthly fees. so you can come use the gym whenever from 8am-8pm.:thumbsup:

6thGear.

03-10-2009, 02:38 PM

I haven't been working out the past couple weeks but whatever happened to Allie? I don't see her there anymore, just that brown girl and that tall blonde in the office.

Richmond69er

03-11-2009, 08:20 AM

I haven't been working out the past couple weeks but whatever happened to Allie? I don't see her there anymore, just that brown girl and that tall blonde in the office.

she works thursday-sunday

mazdaboi

03-13-2009, 02:15 PM

Does anyone get the feeling that Gold's will never actually open?? It's been 3 months since they were supposed to open and nothing much has really changed.... I ain't complaining, but it would be a shame if they never actually opened.

Mr.JDM

03-13-2009, 02:25 PM

its ok .. they still haven't billed me anything since i signed up.

although i just got an email yesterday about the kickboxing class and yoga class going on this month.

the place looks exactly the same as 3 months ago haha

RTS

03-14-2009, 03:40 PM

do they have the grizzlies bball court available to use?

rickross888

04-25-2009, 03:12 PM

any update? is the richmond Gold's finally fully open?

Rated_R

06-11-2009, 09:37 AM

Is this gym officially open?

Chairman Kaga

06-11-2009, 11:52 AM

Half the posts in this thread is asking if the gym is opened :mamoru:

rickross888

06-11-2009, 01:01 PM

do they have the grizzlies bball court available to use?

yea they have the court open. been playing there everyday for the past couple weeks from mon-fri. barely anyone uses it lol

Is this gym officially open?

yeah it's open. i think everything is pretty much done: the weights, cardio, bball court, change room and stuff like that are complete. it's just the CGX area and the bike that isn't open yet, but it's pretty much ready to go

6thGear.

07-02-2009, 05:41 PM

The brunette that works during the days, i think she gets off at 430 or 5 is smoking hot!

trancehead

07-02-2009, 10:12 PM

What are you guys paying bi weekly?
the offer i got works out to be 962 a year...not including the initiation fee.

Richmond69er

07-03-2009, 09:35 AM

im paying 1$/day for the entire year.

diesel_test

07-03-2009, 09:54 AM

What are you guys paying bi weekly?
the offer i got works out to be 962 a year...not including the initiation fee.

962 a year... what the hell?

6thGear.

07-03-2009, 11:28 AM

$22 biweekly, taxes in. It's OK average pricing. I wish I got in the $1/day though

Ch28

07-03-2009, 12:07 PM

What are you guys paying bi weekly?
the offer i got works out to be 962 a year...not including the initiation fee.

962 a year... what the hell?

that's like 4x the cost of 1 year membership with sports central :bowrofl:

trancehead

07-03-2009, 12:22 PM

im paying 1$/day for the entire year.
How did you get this promotion?

that's like 4x the cost of 1 year membership with sports central :bowrofl:

Golds is supposedly a lot nicer than SC...but to pay 4 times more would be ridiculous.
Any promotions going on at SC right now?

trancehead

07-03-2009, 12:24 PM

962 a year... what the hell?
divided by 2...I meant 481 a year :cry:

Ch28

07-03-2009, 01:48 PM

Golds is supposedly a lot nicer than SC...but to pay 4 times more would be ridiculous.

Any promotions going on at SC right now?

You're there to work work out, sweat and get dirty. We're not comparing spas here :mamoru:

http://www.revscene.net/forums/showpost.php?p=6492548&postcount=114

$15.99/month + initiation fee (which is probably going to be $99)

24/7 gym as well

trancehead

07-05-2009, 08:38 AM

You're there to work work out, sweat and get dirty. We're not comparing spas here :mamoru:

http://www.revscene.net/forums/showpost.php?p=6492548&postcount=114

$15.99/month + initiation fee (which is probably going to be $99)

24/7 gym as well

I'm not looking to get pampered while i workout, but i'd rather the surroundings not look like shit. I just find some places are really not motivating. It doesn't have to be glamorous just as long as it isn't a shit hole (which SC is leaning more towards...from what i've heard about)

Thanks for the link though! i'll probably head there soon to see first hand what it looks like.

Richmond69er

07-05-2009, 09:04 AM

^^ SC has a funky as smell to it.

Golds gym is a serious gym with serious equiptment. just look at how many locations they have. when it comes to gym facilities golds is 2nd to none. ive been to the nash center downtown and that i would classify as a "spa" hahaha but the prices reflect that also.

Richmond Golds is an awesome place and pricing is relatively the same as any other gym in richmond. so it comes down to how far away you live from it and how dedicated you are that you'l make that drive to get there.

Meowjin

07-05-2009, 11:28 AM

i think im goign to have to check out golds. It's closer to home too.

Mr.JDM

07-21-2009, 11:48 AM

anyone want to take over my contract? $21 / bi-weekly ?

going to be travelling for a few months so i am thinking about giving up my membership to someone.

pm me

MASTER_J

07-23-2009, 03:25 PM

if you have membership at the burnaby golds on gilmore can you work out at the richmond one as well?

diesel_test

09-12-2009, 12:02 PM

if you have membership at the burnaby golds on gilmore can you work out at the richmond one as well?

i wanna know too...:)

AutozamAZ-3

09-13-2009, 11:04 AM

i wanna know too...:)

no. the owner of the gym in burnaby is owned by different owner. with your bby pass, you can go to kelowna golds and prince george golds.

imo, even though the owner is a cheap ass, burnaby golds is the best gym. best bang for the buck. i've been to richmond golds, and its not as good. gold's gym burnaby is the only gym (other than pantheon) that has dumbbells that go up to 150lb and most equipment for strength training (if your into hammer strengths machines).. although they do lack alot of stability equipment though. wish they had more fit balls/bosus

but you go to golds to get jacked and look like arnold am i right? ;)

im usually workin out at around 5pm-7pm mon-fri

if you want hot girls join at nash center.
if you want a gym you can train at and focus....join golds

hahahahahaha yeah dude shes cute

not really. i've been to both gyms richmond steve nash ang go to downtown myself. if anything, even at peak hour, there are like 10 people max at steve nash richmond. they dont have that many members.

the downtown location cost a bit more but thats where its at... if your into hills type girls

Sid Vicious

09-13-2009, 12:44 PM

does gold gyms in richmond have a powerlifting platform?

AutozamAZ-3

09-19-2009, 12:21 PM

does gold gyms in richmond have a powerlifting platform?

no. i actually didnt really like doing deadlifts when i was there. i wasnt a big fan of their wooden floors. is it just me or are ivanko plates really tight on the barbells? you dont even need clamps

hal0g0dv2

09-19-2009, 08:05 PM

no. i actually didnt really like doing deadlifts when i was there. i wasnt a big fan of their wooden floors. is it just me or are ivanko plates really tight on the barbells? you dont even need clamps

yeah they are
sometimes i have to like use my legs to squeeze them on

gabi

09-20-2009, 08:08 PM

no. i actually didnt really like doing deadlifts when i was there. i wasnt a big fan of their wooden floors. is it just me or are ivanko plates really tight on the barbells? you dont even need clamps

yeah, i did not like the wooden floors at all... other than that the equipment there was great

anl27

09-23-2009, 10:40 PM

for anyone interested in checking out the facilties, the golds in richmond is offering a free 7 day trial, just got it from my cousin

its really great because your gym fees include access to all the fitness classes

Gt-R R34

10-06-2009, 09:23 AM

How much are the gym feeS?

Mr.JDM

10-06-2009, 07:04 PM

How much are the gym feeS?

if your seriously interested i can pass on my membership to you. i signed up back when they were still building the place.. $21/bi-weekly (after tax)
all classes are included

Marioo1991

10-07-2009, 02:03 PM

no. the owner of the gym in burnaby is owned by different owner. with your bby pass, you can go to kelowna golds and prince george golds.

imo, even though the owner is a cheap ass, burnaby golds is the best gym. best bang for the buck. i've been to richmond golds, and its not as good. gold's gym burnaby is the only gym (other than pantheon) that has dumbbells that go up to 150lb and most equipment for strength training (if your into hammer strengths machines).. although they do lack alot of stability equipment though. wish they had more fit balls/bosus

but you go to golds to get jacked and look like arnold am i right? ;)

not really. i've been to both gyms richmond steve nash ang go to downtown myself. if anything, even at peak hour, there are like 10 people max at steve nash richmond. they dont have that many members.

the downtown location cost a bit more but thats where its at... if your into hills type girls

I'm a member of the Burnaby golds, and they've allowed me to go to the Richmond one with my Burnaby pass...

Gt-R R34

10-08-2009, 09:28 AM

if your seriously interested i can pass on my membership to you. i signed up back when they were still building the place.. $21/bi-weekly (after tax)
all classes are included

what are the prices now?

Or i should say, is the gym any good? mostly weightlifting.

Phantom_Euro

11-11-2009, 10:55 AM

Golds gym is an awsome gym. It's about 42 bucks per month but if people say it's too expensive to go to that gym then that means they are not getting what they are getting at a gym. You really pay for what you get at Golds. The size and amount of new equipment is amazing. And also it's not about just weight lifting. They have tons of classes and fitness trainers if needed and tanning booths. What more can you get. I've only explained a short summary of the gym but you get my point.

azzurro32

12-08-2009, 11:18 AM

I visited golds last week. I don't like the contract thing. Also I found the machines are stacked very close to each other. Right now I go to Nash club in Richmond and other then their weights area being small, I love the gym. Even has a pool. Kinda ironic tho that golds has a bball court and Nash doesn't haha.

And ya, the chix are hot at snsc
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spyker

12-12-2009, 09:49 AM

Never been to Steve Nash gym,might check it out just to see what it's all about.

So is it any good?

azzurro32

12-12-2009, 11:57 AM

Yup it's got it's pros and cons. Right now if you know someone you can get 7 day trial pass
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spyker

12-12-2009, 01:29 PM

Yup it's got it's pros and cons. Right now if you know someone you can get 7 day trial pass
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I have no plans on joining,I just like to do the drop-in thing to check out other gyms.

What are the pros and cons?

azzurro32

12-13-2009, 09:24 AM

Pros:
Central location
pool, hot tub, steam room
lots of cardio
free classes
nice equipment
hot chicks

Cons:
missing a few excersize equipment most gyms have
weights area kinda narrow and can get packed
pool only wide enough for 2-4 people
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azn_boix

12-13-2009, 10:37 AM

how much is at steve nash?

Pros:
Central location
pool, hot tub, steam room
lots of cardio
free classes
nice equipment
hot chicks

Cons:
missing a few excersize equipment most gyms have
weights area kinda narrow and can get packed
pool only wide enough for 2-4 people
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Richmond69er

12-13-2009, 12:28 PM

are u guys really that lazy u have to ask how much the membership is over and over and over. why not pick up a phone and call them to get current pricing.

azzurro32

12-13-2009, 02:07 PM

how much is at steve nash?

I pay about 60-70/mth no contract. Should be a bit cheaper on a 1 yr
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azn_boix

12-13-2009, 03:08 PM

yes

are u guys really that lazy u have to ask how much the membership is over and over and over. why not pick up a phone and call them to get current pricing.

Marioo1991

12-15-2009, 08:01 AM

I pay about 60-70/mth no contract. Should be a bit cheaper on a 1 yr
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thats not bad... i had a buddy who signed up who paid around $100/mth :S

I would only pay that much if they made it mandatory for the hot girls to workout topless :P

azzurro32

12-16-2009, 02:28 AM

thats not bad... i had a buddy who signed up who paid around $100/mth :S

I would only pay that much if they made it mandatory for the hot girls to workout topless :P

Wow 100/mth?

He must have added the indoor tennis option I think (extra $45).
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