[x_macbeth]

Snow's almost all gone (hope I didn't jynx it) and it's time to start comparing to get one of the two.
The age old question: 350z vs S2000
Thoughts?

[JL9000]

Just go drive them back to back. They are different enough to not be cross-shopped.

[type-j]

Just go drive them back to back. They are different enough to not be cross-shopped.:werd:

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

350z torquey to drive from day to day basis.

u can shift at 2000rpm


s2k is basically as fast as a DC5 if not slower


gotta take it up to redline, lighter chasis, corner machine enough said

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3ItNBEdm_I

1/4 mile slightly faster by 0.3 seconds
its like 320hp vs 240hp, and only wins by a tiny gap.
the ealier gen will run even if not slower
and thats with the newest 350z, which has roughly 300hp+
much faster than the first gen 03-04 ones

[GordonTse]

350z torquey to drive from day to day basis.

u can shift at 2000rpm


s2k is basically as fast as a DC5 if not slower


gotta take it up to redline, lighter chasis, corner machine enough said

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3ItNBEdm_I

1/4 mile slightly faster by 0.3 seconds
its like 320hp vs 240hp, and only wins by a tiny gap.
the ealier gen will run even if not slower
and thats with the newest 350z, which has roughly 300hp+
much faster than the first gen 03-04 ones

s2k slower than a rsx? you must be joking right?

[Leopold Stotch]

Why was the stupid roof open on the s2k?


and yea i wouldn't say the s2k is equal or slower than a stock rsx.

[hk20000]

a 03-04 350Z and a regular S2000 would be a good race.

[TSR-DC5]

I went from DC5 to 350z...and no my rsx type S with I/RH/E was not even as fast as my buddy's 2000 S2000 w/ an K&N Intake.

There are many reasons why I chose the 2008 350z over the latest S2000, starting with the better interior of the two easily going to the 350z...since it has more creature friendly toys and interior space over the S2000. My Z has Bluetooth, steering wheels Audio controls, heated seats..etc. which the S2000 cannot offer.

As for driving performance, it all depends on what you'll be using your vehicle for. The Z is my Daily Driver and it has plenty of power to make driving around seem effortless, which is nice when you're feeling lazy. The Z will easily walk the s2000 on the highway, but its a close call when it comes to the cornering aspect, with my vote going to the S2000, just because of the pure racing feeling that comes along with it. I find when you put the two cars through the turns, you definitely get more feedback from the s2000, yet the Z isn't slower through the corners.

IMO both of these cars will get through corners at around the same speed, but drive the two and youll realise that getting though the corner in each car requires totally different driving styles. Both inspire confidence, but you really have to drive both in order to choose the right one for you.

In the end, I liked how the s2000 is a pure racing machine but that wasn't enough to make it my daily, since it lacks tq for the daily get around after you've driven a Z. Also if they corner around the same speed and yet the Z will blow it out of the water on the straight, i figured, why not get the Z. They both look great so i couldn't factor that in, because i like them both.

Also, I drift the Z a lot and I would be sweating bullets worrying about the S2000's diff if i had it, plus when it comes to modifiying the two, the you can net much more power from the Z's 3.5L VQ.

Can't go wrong with either tho, but this is just my two cents on this debate, hope anything i said helps.

[hamhead]

how about fuel econ difference? 4cyl vs V6..

[Rikaro]

I went from DC5 to 350z...and no my rsx type S with I/RH/E was not even as fast as my buddy's 2000 S2000 w/ an K&N Intake.

There are many reasons why I chose the 2008 350z over the latest S2000, starting with the better interior of the two easily going to the 350z...since it has more creature friendly toys and interior space over the S2000. My Z has Bluetooth, steering wheels Audio controls, heated seats..etc. which the S2000 cannot offer.

As for driving performance, it all depends on what you'll be using your vehicle for. The Z is my Daily Driver and it has plenty of power to make driving around seem effortless, which is nice when you're feeling lazy. The Z will easily walk the s2000 on the highway, but its a close call when it comes to the cornering aspect, with my vote going to the S2000, just because of the pure racing feeling that comes along with it. I find when you put the two cars through the turns, you definitely get more feedback from the s2000, yet the Z isn't slower through the corners.

IMO both of these cars will get through corners at around the same speed, but drive the two and youll realise that getting though the corner in each car requires totally different driving styles. Both inspire confidence, but you really have to drive both in order to choose the right one for you.

In the end, I liked how the s2000 is a pure racing machine but that wasn't enough to make it my daily, since it lacks tq for the daily get around after you've driven a Z. Also if they corner around the same speed and yet the Z will blow it out of the water on the straight, i figured, why not get the Z. They both look great so i couldn't factor that in, because i like them both.

Also, I drift the Z a lot and I would be sweating bullets worrying about the S2000's diff if i had it, plus when it comes to modifiying the two, the you can net much more power from the Z's 3.5L VQ.

Can't go wrong with either tho, but this is just my two cents on this debate, hope anything i said helps.

listen to this guy. Not to be a douche, but rsx same, or if not faster than a s2k? wtf?

[JDMCivic]

s2000 does have 'steering wheel' audio controls

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

LOL wtf

DC5 is basically about the same as s2k
friend went from DC5 to s2k and he said he didnt really feel it was faster or not much faster either way

a I/H/E simple bolt on without Hondata DC5 will walk a s2k any time of the day on higher gears. S2k with basic mods vs Dc5 with basic mods are fairly equal

u guys really think s2k dynos tat much on the wheel? 240h on fly and 190 on the wheel

02-04 Dc5 dynos 175whp, 05-06 dynos 180-185whp with Type R 4.7 final gear stock.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xsCou5BY40
both similar shit, dc5 comes back for the win

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rltaxel4BZ8&feature=related

same shit all N/A
hmmm geee if s2k was tat much faster i dont see it walking DC5 all day long

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLEAEPhp_KE&feature=related

stock DC5, wowww i dont see s2k modded or not walk Dc5 at all. one car length dc5 misses 5th. and thats a 02-04 one which means its slower

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3MzVGSeE0aM&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMlb6RDHOtU&feature=related
its basically a driver's race between the 2, give or take. some wins some loses

The s2k may feels faster because its on the old system, 5500rpm VTEC where u feel more of a lean back vs IVTEC. but in reality? its basically same shit

K20 with I/H/E Kpro > F series I/H/E flash

[vo_hantu]

^those vids up there are great, but I rather see them start from a stop. rsx-s is like 210hp? s2k is like 240hp? that 30hp ain't going to make a huge diff when they are moving lol.

Basically, it's what you want. Convertible or luxury? Are you going to track? Is it a daily driver or a weekend car?

I think the g35/350z are crap especially for the numbers they produce (stock).

Stop comparing s2k's in straight line speed, were they designed for that?

[marc0lishuz]

I wanna know what's the camera car in video #3 :D

[cococly]

It's not a tiny gap... it's more like 3 car-length... and techinally, my lumpy car can beat the S2000-S at 400m :)

350z torquey to drive from day to day basis.

u can shift at 2000rpm


s2k is basically as fast as a DC5 if not slower


gotta take it up to redline, lighter chasis, corner machine enough said

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3ItNBEdm_I

1/4 mile slightly faster by 0.3 seconds
its like 320hp vs 240hp, and only wins by a tiny gap.
the ealier gen will run even if not slower
and thats with the newest 350z, which has roughly 300hp+
much faster than the first gen 03-04 ones

[TSR-DC5]

^those vids up there are great, but I rather see them start from a stop. rsx-s is like 210hp? s2k is like 240hp? that 30hp ain't going to make a huge diff when they are moving lol.

Basically, it's what you want. Convertible or luxury? Are you going to track? Is it a daily driver or a weekend car?

I think the g35/350z are crap especially for the numbers they produce (stock).

Stop comparing s2k's in straight line speed, were they designed for that?

Why wouldn't you compare all the aspects of a car? Straightline speed is just one of the many things to compare? Z aren't built for straightline speed either so no point in defending the s2000 in a comparison of two cars built for corners.

If the OP wanted a car could go fast in nothing but straight the OP would be debating about picking up a Mustang or a used Corvette.

My 2008 VQ35HR should be putting out around 260-270whp stock. Justify why that is crappy, when a E46 M3 puts out around the same? Would you call that car crappy too?


As for the video that was posted above, with the Nismo 350z vs. S2000 Type S drag racing. This video is just a horrid representation of what both of these cars at the quartermile. The VQ35HR Z's have hit low 13's many times, and consistently, including a few 13.1's, bone stock down to the tire. And as for the s2000, people have been hitting 13.7's and 13.8's consistently.

[abcmzy]

^those vids up there are great, but I rather see them start from a stop. rsx-s is like 210hp? s2k is like 240hp? that 30hp ain't going to make a huge diff when they are moving lol.

Basically, it's what you want. Convertible or luxury? Are you going to track? Is it a daily driver or a weekend car?

I think the g35/350z are crap especially for the numbers they produce (stock).

Stop comparing s2k's in straight line speed, were they designed for that?

A stock G35 makes about 240whp and 350z makes about 250whp due to carbon drive shaft.
Both cars an do 0~60 in about 5.5 sec.
Not exactly crap compare to other cars in the same class.
The only car that will beats it performance is the 335ci.
BMW brought up the 335ci because the 330ci lost in performance.

[RabidRat]

if straight line power is such a huge factor to you that you're posting multiple youtube videos, and ranting on and on about what'll win in a straight line - an RSX or an S2000, then you have absolutely no clue what the car is about, and it'll be a waste on you.

an s2000 is all about the experience. it's about the furthest you can get from an A to B car. it makes no sense no matter how you try to justify it, it exists solely to be driven. if this makes any sense to you, then get your hands on one and drive one to see if it's for you. chances are, it won't be, because it isn't for a lot of people.

having sat in Mike's (orgasm_donor) Z, turning the key in the ignition hearing that distinctive rumble and watching the needles sweep into life amidst an expansive interior layout, it felt a lot more substantial as a car. i've never driven one but if it's like any of the other torquey 300hp cars i've driven, it would give a feeling of thrust like an s2000 never could.

the Z's a lot better as an all-round car, and is "more car". but for some people, there honestly is no replacement for an s2000, and I say this having driven quite a variety of cars that are supposed to be raw and uncompromising. after driving an s2000 after a while, you get into situations like where you're behind the wheel of an S4 and you can't shake the feeling that it's such a sloppy, clumsy car - and it's obviously not, but the fact that it can feel that way says something.

[RabidRat]

btw for a car that'll force crazed laughter from you no matter how hard you try to keep it down, for a car that'll make you feel like you're being hurled off a building, punched in the gut, and kicked in the head, there is nothing quite like a Trans Am. guaranteed this thing will destroy anything any of you guys will mention in this thread, and then everything else you haven't mentioned with mild mods. driving this beast was an experience of a lifetime; i highly recommend it.

the right tool for the right job. it comes down to what you're looking for.

[kc1337]

btw for a car that'll force crazed laughter from you no matter how hard you try to keep it down, for a car that'll make you feel like you're being hurled off a building, punched in the gut, and kicked in the head, there is nothing quite like a Trans Am. guaranteed this thing will destroy anything any of you guys will mention in this thread, and then everything else you haven't mentioned with mild mods. driving this beast was an experience of a lifetime; i highly recommend it.

the right tool for the right job. it comes down to what you're looking for.

I can name something that'll top that :p

[RabidRat]

I can name something that'll top that :p

haha yeah actually there's quite a number of cars that'll top that, but i assumed price was at least somewhat of a loose constraint given that the OP wasn't comparing, say, an F430 to an LP-640, or a 911 to a ZR1 :p

[Leopold Stotch]

if straight line power is such a huge factor to you that you're posting multiple youtube videos, and ranting on and on about what'll win in a straight line - an RSX or an S2000, then you have absolutely no clue what the car is about, and it'll be a waste on you.

an s2000 is all about the experience. it's about the furthest you can get from an A to B car. it makes no sense no matter how you try to justify it, it exists solely to be driven. if this makes any sense to you, then get your hands on one and drive one to see if it's for you. chances are, it won't be, because it isn't for a lot of people.

having sat in Mike's (orgasm_donor) Z, turning the key in the ignition hearing that distinctive rumble and watching the needles sweep into life amidst an expansive interior layout, it felt a lot more substantial as a car. i've never driven one but if it's like any of the other torquey 300hp cars i've driven, it would give a feeling of thrust like an s2000 never could.

the Z's a lot better as an all-round car, and is "more car". but for some people, there honestly is no replacement for an s2000, and I say this having driven quite a variety of cars that are supposed to be raw and uncompromising. after driving an s2000 after a while, you get into situations like where you're behind the wheel of an S4 and you can't shake the feeling that it's such a sloppy, clumsy car - and it's obviously not, but the fact that it can feel that way says something.

man i was never really fond of 350z's and Z cars in general. but when i got a ride in his Z. HOLY CRAP!. that was an AWESOME Car. his car is a bit special though.

[GabAlmighty]

350Z or S2000 (personally it'd be G35 for me but that's just me)
Like it's been compared above, the S2000 is more for the experience whereas the 350Z seems to be more for comfort and creature comforts, while going fast at the same time. Best thing to do, instead of reading about people's opinions, go see if you can get a nice long and good test drive with both cars, then decide

[DC5-S]

dc-5 with i/h/e will NOT walk a s2000.. it will keep up with it with the edge on the s2k.. s2ks trap stock 100-102mph i believe.. i/h/e dc5 is 99-100mph

[Hustler604]

interesting debate which has been beaten to death. It really depends on what you like. Having driven both the cars in normal street conditions and having been driven in them in race conditions (no straight line bs, but i mean good solid turns and all) i have to say both are awesome. Personally, i like the low end power of the Z for the street and the comfort from the ride quality along with the above mensioned interior quaility. There is something to be said for the S2K and its "race-like" characteristics. To get the most out of both cars like TSR-DC5 said, you have to drive them BOTH and find which one feels better for you.

FOR ME its 350z, more comfort, better styling IMO and more low end torque to go along with the nav package + bose system + more trunk space. But in the end its up to you to go try them out

let us know how your findings are.

PS TSR-DC5 has had a rsx-s and his friends drive s2k's and now he has a 350z i think he's one of the few people who has had a chance to test all of these cars and probably has the best handle on how they all drive.

[kc1337]

i much rather get the s2k, my opinions are a bit biased because i used to drive a miata so i would choose the convertible 4 banger.

[toyota86]

i find the 350z too heavy. at times, it feels underpowered. its not as agile as the s2k of course. thats a given. but its a quieter more civilized car.

the s2k is a lighter more communicatve car in my opinion. i would like to think of it as what a miata should be from day one. its well balanced. but, the s2k is sometimes too well balanced for my liking and becomes hard to drive well.

for a daily driver, they both arent very good. both 2 seaters with almost zero trunk space. parking is horrible with the 350z due to the small windows and high belt line. parking is equally bad with the s2k being that it has long front and low seating position. it gets worse when the top is up and when you happen to pick up an ap1 with no glass back with defog. both are quite loud on the highway. the s2k more so due to the high revs it needs. the 350z is quieter but i dont know about you but i hate how that v6 sounds. also, from memory, i think the 350z is more of a gas drinker.

from a reliability point of view. i've myself have owned neither but i've heard more horror stories about the 350z than the s2k. seems like transmission and engine failure issues plague the earlier cars. but then again, i've read about s2k guys blowing up their rear ends, subframes, axles and such. it seems that s2k are overall cheaper to maintain though i could be wrong.

as a toy, both aren't really that worthy of being an collector or purely a weekender like say a z06, elise or a 911. in my opinion, they are both fun cars at a good price for used but they arent special enough to get really attached to.

for me, honestly i would pick neither if buying new. as for buying used, a nice E36 M3 would be a much better choice. If i really had to choose between the two. I would pick the S2k but only if it came with a hard top, cage and proper roll bars as some clubs in the states dont allow convertibles to run track days anymore.

[kenny@s2ki]

Just go drive both and see which one you like.

[DC5-S]

id rather have the new 350z as it is way faster then a s2000. s2000 is only good with a blower.

[RabidRat]

id rather have the new 350z as it is way faster then a s2000. s2000 is only good with a blower.

350z with blower is faster.

350z win.

[truong]

To the OP

Just buy whatever suits you better.
Don't jump on the ban wagon my friend.

[Timpo]

Here's a good comparison, S2000 vs 350Z.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=wSPL6eepv-A

[Dolomite]

I had an rsx, my bro had an s2k. My rsx-s was slower by far than the S2000...and I beat a G35 with the S2000.

[CivicTypeRice]

somebody start an rsx-s vs civic si thread!

[JackyJai]

I had an rsx, my bro had an s2k. My rsx-s was slower by far than the S2000...and I beat a G35 with the S2000.

My friend with a 996 MK1 C2 w/ exhaust lost to a G35 on Knight Bridge.
My friend can't drive shit.
So is the G35 you beat.

G35 makes about 240whp and 1580kg (6.58kg/whp).
S2000 makes about 190whp and 1300kg(6.82kg/whp).
350Z makes about 250whp and 1450kg(5.8kg/whp).
There is no way a G35 lost to S2000 on straight.
Not to mention VQ35DE makes 100lb/ft torque more than S2000.


Straight line performance: 350Z>G35>S2000

[Dolomite]

Well....I beat him....twice. So yea. And yea he was trying. The s2k had I/E but I cant see that making any difference.

[JackyJai]

Well....I beat him....twice. So yea. And yea he was trying. The s2k had I/E but I cant see that making any difference.

The only reason is he still can't drive shit even he tried.
The S2000 will achieve 0-60mph in 5.7 only if you drop the clutch at redline.

The torque of S200 is not a lot for its weight.
The VQ is a much more powerful engine.

[RabidRat]

seriously guys, grow up and take your racing off the streets.

[truong]

they keep running the s2000 with the top down

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

Here's a good comparison, S2000 vs 350Z.

http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=wSPL6eepv-A



this is another video that shows s2k and 350z's 1/4 mile is very similar. 0.1 second difference??


those who mention that 350z has 100 more torque, 40-50whp more, even tho slightly heavier, with all those differences, than 350z should be a mile down the road if not a bus length. I dont see tat happenning

[Mancini]

The "not cross-shopped" statements are interesting. They're both rear wheel drive sports cars in roughly comparable price categories. Different? Yes.

If I was looking for a sports car right now then the driving experience and the entertainment it provides would be very high on my list of criteria. That is a major focus of both of these cars. And if I could afford one then I could afford the other. In that case they need to be compared in order to make an informed decision. At least according to criteria that are important to me.

In the end I suspect I would personally choose the Honda. I have a bias against Nissan and my perception of their quality.

[DC5-S]

somebody start an rsx-s vs civic si thread!

there is no k-pro for the si, thus your si fails

[dustinb]

seriously guys, grow up and take your racing off the streets.

Completely agree. Can't believe people are like "yah I totally beat him". Go out to the track and prove it, not on the street.

As for the two cars, I've driven a 350z and a S2000. Both had mild mods - intake, exhaust. Personally I think the 350Z is a better looking car, and the interior is very nice, EXCEPT, I found the driving / steering wheel position was pretty horrible. There also wasn't a huge amount of communication between driver/car. I drive a 1990 miata, so the S2000 should be right up my alley, but I was left somewhat unimpressed. Rear visibility is atrocious, interior is also nice as well, but nothing went wow to me when I drove it.

So I wouldn't buy either, but if I had to choose, it would be the 350Z, probably in convertible form (I drove the coupe).

AND not to be an idiot because you didn't ask, but check out the Chrysler Crossfire. You can get them for a steal, and they're actually nice cars.

[wasabisashimi]

crossfire ? the market value will only keep going worst!!, plus it is made by chrysler.

[dustinb]

crossfire ? the market value will only keep going worst!!, plus it is made by chrysler.

It's actually a rebadged Mercedes SLK.

[ivys2k]

who buys a s2000 and go drag.....its 2 different types of car.

[BoS_DC2]

you tell me.

c49McBCqFNM

[ziggyx]

who brings up a 6month old post... its 2 old.

[ilvtofu]

exactly... right now 370 FTMFW!!!!

[124Y]

^I saw a black one the other day with black Volk Racing RE30s.....hella sexy!!!!

[AzNightmare]

who buys a s2000 and go drag.....its 2 different types of car.

who bumps a 5 month old thread?? noob.

[k20a]

there is no k-pro for the si, thus your si fails

It's time to take your words back. LOL :thumbsup:

[GordonTse]

It's time to take your words back. LOL :thumbsup:

you fail. it's not kpro, it's flashpro :thumbsup:

[DC5-S]

hahahaha.. and you can only do 90 sec programming with flashpro thats hella stupid..

[spenny]

Cobb also released an Accessport for the Civic Si. Yea... theyre no KPro (they can only reflash the stock ECU) and the price reflects that. But they are tuning solutions.

I think this is bolt-ons, Cobb AP tuned.

http://cobbforums.com/images/Honda%20Injen%20SRI%20stock%20vs%20final%20calibra tion.jpg

As for the original topic, it's a tough choice.. The 350z is like a bit like a muscle car compared to the S2000. Probably more a better daily driver, more comfortable.. But the rawness of the S2000 really appeals to me. Plus I think the S2000 looks better. For a daily driver probably 350z, for a weekend/fun car probably an S2000.

[ivys2k]

you tell me.

c49McBCqFNM

ok let me tell you bro. people buy s2k for track more than drag true?