[hamhead]

xbox360 is getting cheap now so im considering it as a gaming machine for my 42" lcd (1080p res) instead of using my PC (7800gt... could put in a 4850 but its $150. xbox360 is $200).

PC Qs:
for COD5, is it possible to have 2 ppl play together in co-op mode, offline(like, split screen)?


Xbox360 Qs:
whats the difference between Xbox 360 arcade, pro and elite?

can i play HD videos (.mkv) by plugging in a usb hdd?

which xbox360's have the flashable dvd drive?

can i load xbox360 games from pc onto the xbox360 hdd and then play it from the hdd?

which xbox360's have HDMI output?

wat games do u prefer in xbox360 instead of PC?

[TOPEC]

answered inside the quote.


Xbox360 Qs:
whats the difference between Xbox 360 arcade, pro and elite?

Arcade comes with only the console in WHITE with no chrome trim i believe, and a WIRED controller in WHITE, NO HARDRIVE
(althoght a few months back MS was offering 20GB referb drives for $20 due to the new xbox dashboard interface needing more space, if u buy that 20GB hdd it'll estentiall turn ur arcade into pro)

Pro comes with console in WHITE with chrome trim, WIRELESS controller in WHITE, and a 20GB HDD.

Elite comes with console in BLACK with chrome trim, WIRELESS controller in BLACK, and a 120GB HDD.

can i play HD videos (.mkv) by plugging in a usb hdd?

not sure if u can, but if i recall, the USB ports on the xbox is almost useless, it's only there to connect xbox items only, eg: controller, memory card. it cannot read my USB flash drive when i pluged it in, so i would guess that a USB HDD doesnt work.

which xbox360's have the flashable dvd drive?

not sure but google is ur friend.

can i load xbox360 games from pc onto the xbox360 hdd and then play it from the hdd?

no as that is estentially playing FAKE games which will get u banned, unless u never plan on hooking up the ethernet cable.

which xbox360's have HDMI output?

All xbox with FALCON chips comes with HDMI ports, again google is ur friend. look up how to tell if the xbox ur buying is the new versions with the FALCON chip. u also want falcon chips anyways cause it runs cooler, so less chance of RROD

wat games do u prefer in xbox360 instead of PC?

[.Renn.Sport]

pro comes with 60GB
premium came with 20GB and its discontinued for a while
all brand new xbox will have HDMI

[asian_XL]

you need matching hardware to flash your dvd drive, I've studied at least 2 weeks and gave up doing it by myself...I paid $40 to someone and got it flashed, no problem so far.


nope, it won't play mkv, it won't detect 2.5" usb HDD


go wiki it if you want more info

[Berzerker]

If your used to shooting with a mouse... like CS and shit your going to suck balls on the 360 and get pissed off like me.

360 needs a different piece to play HD DVD's.

Berz out.

[_Hotsauce_]

360 takes awhile to get used to the controller for FPS, Single player is fine, but multiplayer....I've played like 700 or 800 Halo games, and it still pisses me off.

[ek-nine]

not sure if u can, but if i recall, the USB ports on the xbox is almost useless, it's only there to connect xbox items only, eg: controller, memory card. it cannot read my USB flash drive when i pluged it in, so i would guess that a USB HDD doesnt work.

plugging in a USB flash drive does work as i have done it many times to watch movies.

[Dragon-88]

For flashing the drives i found that the "unbreakable" BenQ drives were the easies to flash, 10 Mins Max. Also get a xbox with a hard drive, so you can save most of your games, also you can acctually copy original 360 games straight to your hard drive so you dont have to load a dvd. Online games are freaking great!!!!!! Also Headset is a MUST!!!!! You can get wired or wireless, wireless requires a stonger voice tone to activate it, while the wired can even catch soft speaking... COD and NHL are byfar my most favorite games... Best part is it loads 100 Times faster on games than a pc. Ultimate media centre aswell! If your xbox doesnt come with a headset, i recommend getting the combo set with the keyboard, just makes it easier to type when sending messages. You will feel outta place if you dont have a mic...

[_Hotsauce_]

In regards to wired mics, the only problem is they can be unplugged very easy...sucks moving around and yanking it out int he middle of a game

[Dragon-88]

In regards to wired mics, the only problem is they can be unplugged very easy...sucks moving around and yanking it out int he middle of a game

I dont know where your remote goes, but when i play i sit down and remote is always infront of me, if i'm walking around, then i put the remote in my back pocket.... I never really have the thing pull out on me, only happened like once or twice, not a big issue at all. Then again wireless you can hear what their saying when ur in the washroom :P...

[Hondaracer]

Wireless headset is a must IMO

The arcade model actually comes with a wireless controller not wired, but if u want to play online or even update to the new dashboard u will need a HD

[.Renn.Sport]

arcade all come with a memory card and the newer ones comes with onboard memory, those are enough to have the dashboard upgrade.

[hamhead]

well ive looked on craigslist and ive found a couple. im just contemplating whether to get:

premium, 20gb, HDMI, 1 wireless controller, modded, for $240
or
arcade, 1 wireless controller, 1 game, for $175 (hopefully its HDMI)
or
pro, 20gb, no HDMI, 2 wireless controller, wired headset, external fan, for $190

im planning to hook it up to a 42" 1080p LCDTV. will i notice a difference between Component and HDMI??? as you can see, there is so much more value buying non HDMI

[Jermyzy]

I'm running my xbox360 on componenet cables on my 52" LCD TV and it looks fine to me. I even use it to watch my DVDs as I'm too cheap to buy a separate DVD palyer :lol

[Dragon-88]

HDMI all the way!

[Razor Ramon HG]

The arcade model actually comes with a wireless controller not wired, but if u want to play online or even update to the new dashboard u will need a HD

You can update to the new dashboard with the basic 256MB memory card they give you. Depending on the games you play, a HD may be needed. I still have 90MB on my memory card, but I only play NHL09/Guitar Hero.

[asian_XL]

FYI, component cable can go up to 1080p

[hamhead]

dammit.. i really wanna get a modded one... but that guy is asking $240.

if i go buy an arcade version it will be 240 after tax then another 40 to mod so 280 and ill get the same thing except no hdd

[Razor Ramon HG]

You can probably mod it yourself if you're familiar with opening apart things like a PC.

[hamhead]

ya im very familiar with doing that. how hard would it be though?

i also want to get a hdd for it too.... where can i get one for cheap?

[.Renn.Sport]

gtfo if u are too cheap to buy games

[asian_XL]

I bet your parents will tell you to gtfo if they know how much money and time you have spent on games

[Hondaracer]

I wonder wtf is taking up all my space, I have the arcade with the 20gig upgrade and I only have 11 left.. Play quite a few games though I guess

[.Renn.Sport]

4GB are for reserved and 2GB is for backward compatibility
usable space is only 13GB on the 20GB

[VR6GTI]

save yourself the money and just get a 42" 720p. You cant tell the difference from 720p to 1080p on a 42"

[Jermyzy]

I wonder wtf is taking up all my space, I have the arcade with the 20gig upgrade and I only have 11 left.. Play quite a few games though I guess


Same thing with me, so I checked out the files in my HD, and there were a whole bunch of game samplers, videos, etc that were on my HD that I didn't download...not sure if they were pre-loaded or automatically downloaded from xbox live?

[Dragon-88]

dammit.. i really wanna get a modded one... but that guy is asking $240.

if i go buy an arcade version it will be 240 after tax then another 40 to mod so 280 and ill get the same thing except no hdd

Go for it!!! Arcade is $240 + Refurbished 20GB Hard drive $25 + Mod $40= $300+
You might aswell go for the modded vr, since it probably already come with a shitload of games, if you do consider it, one thing u might want to check are the "backed up" games, just so you know whats in bad condition. I have a modded xbox and i treat my games like shit since a new game would cost me 1 Dual layer DVD... If you dont know how to dl xbox games then there is a guy on CL that sells them for $8... Still better than any retail price...

[6793026]

one big diff.
u place with your PC game on PC and you cant' invitie you frients to play.
with sport games you can have a bunch of you together on a Xbox.

[hamhead]

ya i played cod5 w/ my room mates on the xbox360 but its connected to a small TV (20") so more than 2 players is impossible, although N64 is very playable on 4 players due to the easy-on-the-eyes graphics.

i have cod5 on PC as well, but it is so frustrating dealing with the crashes and the inability to play online or even co-op offline with someone beside u. but on xbox360 u can play with someone beside you in co-op offline, like Zombies or just campain.

[Hondaracer]

Same thing with me, so I checked out the files in my HD, and there were a whole bunch of game samplers, videos, etc that were on my HD that I didn't download...not sure if they were pre-loaded or automatically downloaded from xbox live?

i found all the extra stuff, deleted it all and i still only have 12.6 gigs remaining.. does xbox live really take up that much?

my game folder without all the demo's and only the games i play is only like 900mb's..

[.Renn.Sport]

4GB are for reserved and 2GB is for backward compatibility
usable space is only 13GB on the 20GB

i found all the extra stuff, deleted it all and i still only have 12.6 gigs remaining.. does xbox live really take up that much?

my game folder without all the demo's and only the games i play is only like 900mb's..

read

[hamhead]

hey guys, does the stock xbox360 rear black fans always run at 5v?

[Hondaracer]

Sorry renn, totally missed that first post of yours, make sense now

[RRxtar]

HDMI isnt a huge selling point for me.

Component video cables to the TV perform just as well as HDMI at 1080i (which the 360 is) and then run an optical audio cable to your receiver.

[Hondaracer]

^ if your receiver has enough HDMI ports i'd always prefer to go with HDMI based simply on having a single cable

wish i could afford a 5 HDMI input receiver :(

[hamhead]

dude its so easy. just get those switches that have 5 into1 HDMI ports.

anyways, i bought the xbox360. modded, 20gb, and 1 controller, w/ HDMI. time for some gaming!!! left 4 dead was crazy fun and COD5 was awesome!!

now.. i just need to know if the fans at the rear of the xbox run at 5V only or increases to 12V when temp rises?? cuz.. im gonna either buy an intercooler or mod the van to run 12V always

[Vansterdam]

intercooler fucks up ur xbox , stay away from it.

also its better to save the games you play most often onto ur HD, less stress on ur xbox and it makes it run preety dam quiet

[Dragon-88]

intercooler fucks up ur xbox , stay away from it.

also its better to save the games you play most often onto ur HD, less stress on ur xbox and it makes it run preety dam quiet

As much as its worth doing that since hes got a 20GB hard drive it would just be a waste of time loading a 6GB game on your hard drive.. Cause your just going to have to uninstall it again for more memory... Doesn't really give any stress while playing with the dvd, its all just noise..

Has anyone ever head of transfering a 20GB hard drive files to the 120GB??? Is this possible?

[.Renn.Sport]

As much as its worth doing that since hes got a 20GB hard drive it would just be a waste of time loading a 6GB game on your hard drive.. Cause your just going to have to uninstall it again for more memory... Doesn't really give any stress while playing with the dvd, its all just noise..

Has anyone ever head of transfering a 20GB hard drive files to the 120GB??? Is this possible?

it loads much faster and smoother for some dvd read intensive games, like Fable 2 and Last remnant

you can take the HDD apart and transfer the files via PC or if you buy the standalone 120GB HDD, it comes with a cable to transfer the files

[Dragon-88]

it loads much faster and smoother for some dvd read intensive games, like Fable 2 and Last remnant

you can take the HDD apart and transfer the files via PC or if you buy the standalone 120GB HDD, it comes with a cable to transfer the files

But for the fact that the guy has a 20GB is it really worth doing that to all his high intensive games??? GTA itself is like 7-8GB (Just made a number up) it would just take all you normal hard drive space, not only that what about all the game that you can download.. like PUZZLE FIGHTER(BEST GAME EVER)....

Looks like I will soon be upgrading to a 120GB, since my 20GB is almost full

[hamhead]

well mine is 20gb, but when i plug it in, it shows 9.99gb free LOL. filled with videos, demos, arcade games, etc... if i delete them all i free 4gb only since a few gb are reserved or whatever.

as for the intercooler, my room mate has one and its very effectivein removing the hot air. dont worry, im not getting the one where u plug the power directly from the xbox. it will have a separate AC adapter so it wont pull power from the xbox and fuck it up

[Dragon-88]

Got live yet??? give us ur gamertag..

[hamhead]

well where im putting it, there will be no internet... unless i get the wireless adapter.

i havent even played it yet on a big tv. will this weekend

[Dragon-88]

well where im putting it, there will be no internet... unless i get the wireless adapter.

i havent even played it yet on a big tv. will this weekend


Cheapest place to get one is from costco online.. I have one works great, i rarely get any lag..

[hamhead]

so i just finished playing on my 1080p tv.. it was fukkin awesome!!

[Dragon-88]

what game?