[Hondaracer]

white fullsized range rover in the guildford mall parking lot surrounded by CSI type ppl, heard over the radio guy died on the way to hospital

also one in Poco, not sure of the status of the guy

peeps is gettin done in on the daily

[hi5-ive]

http://www.news1130.com/home/more.jsp?content=20090203_221038_42364

[Harvey Specter]

The snow and cold weather are gone, the gangsters and scum are back on the streets.

[phatpower]

dam I was in surrey tonight wow and at guild ford, man shits getting out of hand..

I saw a shit load of cop cars heading that way today I was at 152 and 100 at about that time 5:30 or so and I was heading away from the mall too and that when I saw the cop cars again wow .. sorry guys did not see anything...

[Hondaracer]

shits gonna get crazy this summer

[phatpower]

yup bullet proof cars are need and bullet proof vest too just for the innocent people..

[1exotic]

Vancouver/Lower mainland is turning into the L.A.

I saw these shootings on the news

[alex.w *//]

its because all these baller status ppl have summer tires with bling rims on their cars/suvs that when it snows, they cant leave the scene fast enough to escape. so now that the snow is gone and grip on the road. they are back

[Armind]

Abby-->Surrey-->Coquitlam-->Vancouver?

Man.. I live like a 5 min drive away from the mall.

You can see a better view of the scene on ctv.ca

[StylinRed]

as ive said time and again..... the less arrests there are the more immune these guys feel and the more it'll happen and the more brazen it'll be

people might know it as the Broken Window effect

[Harvey Specter]

I heard even drug dealers are been hit by the hard economic times so I guess we'll see more of these scumbags killing each other for customers.

[jigga250]

seems like if you're driving a Range Rover, your odds of getting shot go up

strange how that works...

[Hot Karl]

as ive said time and again..... the less arrests there are the more immune these guys feel and the more it'll happen and the more brazen it'll be

people might know it as the Broken Window effect

the .0000001% of getting shot as a bystander is fine by me. these guys killing each other is a better long term solution then just jamming them into prison so they can start networking with other criminals. a career dealer isn't gonna get outta jail after 10 years and get a job at mcdonalds.

not living in surrey and hanging out downtown lowers your chances of getting shot by another fafillion %

[StylinRed]

I heard even drug dealers are been hit by the hard economic times so I guess we'll see more of these scumbags killing each other for customers.

no their problem is that EVERYBODY and his dog is dealing now so competition is steep

seems more like the wannabes are getting killed off



the .0000001% of getting shot as a bystander is fine by me. these guys killing each other is a better long term solution then just jamming them into prison so they can start networking with other criminals. a career dealer isn't gonna get outta jail after 10 years and get a job at mcdonalds.

not living in surrey and hanging out downtown lowers your chances of getting shot by another fafillion %

problem with that is everyday the % of getting shot goes up

[Harvey Specter]

http://a123.g.akamai.net/f/123/12465/1d/www.vancouversun.com/three+slayings+hours+metro+vancouver/1249778/1250038.bin?size=620x400


METRO VANCOUVER — A man gunned down in the parking lot of Guildford Town Centre Tuesday was the same person who rented the Surrey penthouse where six people were brutally murdered in October 2007, The Vancouver Sun has learned.

Raphael Baldini had appeared in Vancouver Provincial Court earlier Tuesday on assault and uttering threats charges laid in October 2008.

He was also facing a series of gun charges filed against him in November 2007, just weeks after six people — including innocent bystanders Chris Mohan and Ed Schellenberg — were shot execution-style in suite 1505 of the Balmoral Tower, which Baldini had been renting.

The 21-year-old Baldini was sprayed with gunfire in the parking lot of the busy Surrey mall about 5:20 p.m. Tuesday — the second of three targeted hits in Metro Vancouver in less than 24 hours.

He was transported to hospital, where he was declared dead just as his family was gathering.

A woman was found shot to death in Coquitlam hours after Baldini’s slaying. And just 20 hours earlier, James Ward Erickson was killed in another gangland-style murder in Whalley.

RCMP Supt. John Robin, who heads the Integrated Homicide Investigation Team, said it does not appear that the two Tuesday-night murders are connected.

He said homicide investigators have been run ragged by the crush of new murder files.

“What can you say? The guys are being called out all the time. They are working extremely hard. The beginning of last year was extremely busy and now the beginning of this year is just the same,” Robin said.

IHIT spokesman Cpl. Dale Carr was just leaving the site of the Surrey murder Tuesday when he was called out to Coquitlam. There, the body of a woman in her 20s, the victim of an apparent shooting, was found slumped in a truck at Mason and Oxford.

Carr said police could not confirm the identity of the woman or the cause of death until the coroner’s arrival. However, they believe the woman is well-known to police.

Carr said the Surrey victim was driving in a white Range Rover in the west parking lot of Guildford Town Centre when shots rang out.

“Somebody walks up and shoots at the man,” Carr said.

Lisa Barber was outside washing windows at the Loose Moose Neighbourhood Pub, across the street from the mall, when she said she heard six or eight shots.

“I started counting them as soon as I realized what they were,” she said. “It did scare me though, right away. I was like, here we go.”

Baldini was associated with four of the victims in the 2007 Surrey apartment slaughter, all of whom were involved in drug trafficking. Police earlier confirmed that suspects in the slaying have been identified as members of the Red Scorpion gang, though no one has yet been charged.

Metro Vancouver has had a rash of shootings over the last two weeks, as well as nine homicides so far in 2009. Of the murders, five have been the result of gunplay. Many of the shootings have occurred in public places like the Surrey mall parking lot. Shots were also fired at a busy intersection in Abbotsford two weeks ago — that time at one of the notorious Bacon brothers, who escaped unharmed.

On Monday, Whalley’s Parkside Apartment building was the scene of its second gun incident in two months with the slaying of a 25-year-old resident.

Erickson, who had a minor criminal record for mischief and causing a disturbance, was gunned down about 9:15 p.m. on the second floor of the three-storey building at 13352 - 105A Ave.

IHIT’s Carr said police were originally called after shots were fired. They found Erickson already dead inside an apartment.

The building is just off the Whalley Ring Road and near the Surrey Central SkyTrain station — a popular area for drug traffickers and their clients. Carr said Erickson lived in the Parkside, which had one- and two-bedroom suites for rent Tuesday.

In December, Surrey RCMP raided a suite in the same building to arrest 21-year-old Shane Gidon, who was wanted for attempted murder in connection with two north Surrey shootings.

At the time, police said they found a machine gun in the apartment where Gidon was located.

Police remained on the scene of Erickson’s slaying most of Tuesday. The young man’s body was removed by the B.C. Coroners’ Service about 10:30 a.m., a grey blanket draped over the stretcher as Erickson was loaded into a white van.

Barry Coldwell, who lives in an apartment complex next door, said the Parkside is nicknamed “the rock” because of the amount of drug trafficking going on inside.

“I am moving out of this neighbourhood. It is horrible,” he said.

He said there are drug dealers, prostitutes and condoms littering the neighbourhood streets and parking lots. “This neighbourhood is at least as bad as the Downtown Eastside. There’s no difference,” Coldwell said.

Carr said that when police attempted to secure the scene, “officers were met with some resistance from individuals from inside the building.”

“Four persons were detained for obstructing police and brought to the Surrey RCMP office. All individuals have been spoken to by police and all but one has been released,” Carr said. “The one individual that remains in custody is not a suspect in this incident, he was held on an outstanding warrant of arrest.”

Carr said it was too soon to know if Erickson’s slaying was related to gangs or organized crime, but it bore common traits with other recent shootings.

kbolan@vancouversun.com, with a file from Catherine Rolfsen

[Vansterdam]

bang bang

[silk]

should have death penalty in canada

[quasi]

I have no problem with these guys killing each other but isn't it weird you almost never ever hear of anyone getting arrested? If they could arrest and convict the shooters it would be such a win win for the general public.

[Gtrr33]

its nice and all that all these bad people getting killed but what about the public? what if a gang shooting happen in the middle of a mall where kids are walking around?

lets just get ironman in hurr!!

[BlitzBlitz]

too many asians, they all look alike.. its hard to find em.

[trduhs]

You guys are all fucking heartless pussy e-thugs. All these drug dealers or "gangsters" got family n shit too, and there not going around IN the mall blasting everybody to get ONE guy. OMG IAM SO SCARED!!!! SOMEONE GOT SHOT IN THE PARKING LOT WHILE IAM AT FUCKING EBGAMES WAT IF I GOT HIT BY THE CROSSFIRE OMG. no one in this fucking thread said RIP or anything. Give some respect they are human beings too.

[quasi]

You guys are all fucking heartless pussy e-thugs. All these drug dealers or "gangsters" got family n shit too, and there not going around IN the mall blasting everybody to get ONE guy. OMG IAM SO SCARED!!!! SOMEONE GOT SHOT IN THE PARKING LOT WHILE IAM AT FUCKING EBGAMES WAT IF I GOT HIT BY THE CROSSFIRE OMG. no one in this fucking thread said RIP or anything. Give some respect they are human beings too.

You made our point thanks. These guys are killing each other who really give a fuck? They aren't innocent bystanders they're good for nothing. Also nobody is being an ethug. An Ethug by definition is someone who threatens someone or says they'll beat someone up over the internet. Nobody is suggesting that they are going to go out and kill gangsters and drug dealers. Most people here just happen to not care if they kill each other off.

[NinjaAceYork]

bang bang

LOL

[Presto]

No RIPs for criminals, just good riddance. For their families, I'm sure there is a sense of relief in not having to wait for the inevitable death of loved ones involved in that lifestyle.

[Hondaracer]

You guys are all fucking heartless pussy e-thugs. All these drug dealers or "gangsters" got family n shit too, and there not going around IN the mall blasting everybody to get ONE guy. OMG IAM SO SCARED!!!! SOMEONE GOT SHOT IN THE PARKING LOT WHILE IAM AT FUCKING EBGAMES WAT IF I GOT HIT BY THE CROSSFIRE OMG. no one in this fucking thread said RIP or anything. Give some respect they are human beings too.

Lol not only do I say no "rip" I say fuck em gee wizz they have families, well maybe if they actually gave 2 fucks about their families they wouldn't have taken up jobs dropping rocks, everyone of these people are in it for quick money and trying to be somebody, this guy who got shot is 21 and was renting a penthouse and driving a 100,000 range, your telling me the same would have happened to him working construction or flipping burgers?

If you play with fire your gonna get burned and anyone who sympathizes with these people I'm sure you'll feel the same when your mom or dad gets killed in crossfire and buddy who just killed a couple people gets out in 20 years and couldn't care less about you or your family

In van it seems like murder is pretty easy to get away with IMO the only way to at least put a thought into these ppls minds would be mandatory life with no parole.

[ws6ta]

20 years is a really long time to be in jail so I'm sure they care...they just don't think they're going to get caught! same thing would happen with mandatory life sentences.

i wonder if the range was supercharged

[dustinb]

You guys are all fucking heartless pussy e-thugs. All these drug dealers or "gangsters" got family n shit too, and there not going around IN the mall blasting everybody to get ONE guy. OMG IAM SO SCARED!!!! SOMEONE GOT SHOT IN THE PARKING LOT WHILE IAM AT FUCKING EBGAMES WAT IF I GOT HIT BY THE CROSSFIRE OMG. no one in this fucking thread said RIP or anything. Give some respect they are human beings too.

Yes they have family too, and guess what, do you think that family right now is happy in how these people end their life? Are they thankful that he did what he did, and that he should now rest in peace? My guess, probably not. I would think that the guys kids (if he had any) would be devastated, angry, that their father chose the life he did. They would probably rather have a poor father / husband / son, then a dead one. This dead man will have caused so much grief, anguish, pain, on so many people. So no. Don't rest in peace. Rest knowing you caused so much hurt.

[Hondaracer]

20 years is a really long time to be in jail so I'm sure they care...they just don't think they're going to get caught! same thing would happen with mandatory life sentences.

i wonder if the range was supercharged

I'm sure to low lvl thugs the thought of 20 years or shorter sounds alot better than life with no chance of ever getting out

It was a full sized range btw not a sport

[hotjoint]

wow heard about this today, i live 5 mins away from guildford mall. O well one less gangster

[ws6ta]

I'm sure to low lvl thugs the thought of 20 years or shorter sounds alot better than life with no chance of ever getting out

It was a full sized range btw not a sport

good point

about the range the full size range also has an supercharged and non supercharged version. the full size is going to be redesigned next year should be a nice truck. The sport will be keeping the same shape until at least 2012 :thumbsup:

[Sodium]

I have no problem with these guys killing each other but isn't it weird you almost never ever hear of anyone getting arrested? If they could arrest and convict the shooters it would be such a win win for the general public.

Are you sure the shooter is actually the people that wants to kill those people? What's the point of catching the peons and letting them take all the blame for their bosses?

[swoo]

wow heard about this today, i live 5 mins away from guildford mall. O well one less gangster

one less gangster ---> 2 more created

[Hondaracer]

good point

about the range the full size range also has an supercharged and non supercharged version. the full size is going to be redesigned next year should be a nice truck. The sport will be keeping the same shape until at least 2012 :thumbsup:

Oh really must be pretty rare don't think I've seen the sc'ed full sized one, or at least never noticed

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

cool

:thumbsup:

[StaxBundlez]

meehh...

http://ui22.gamespot.com/1877/scarface2_2.gif

Glamorous?

I understand a lot of people hate on drug dealers and gangsters because of how they are portrayed by the media.. I understand the fear this puts in people because there have been innocent people who do get caught in the crossfire and die needlessly.. Everyone has family, friends and people who care about them.. Gangsters are people too, just they have chosen a lifestyle that the general public deems as immoral or none beneficial to society.. a majority of these guys are sucked in by $$$$$.. but some of these guys are just looking for a better life, trapped in their own existence and will jump on any opportunities they can get. Most of them just need that stepping stone to move on to better things... Most people don't understand that..

I came up through poverty and didn't have much.. i can understand when you're young, seeing one or two thousand dollars can make you drool...My family is honest and hard working and when they immigrated here they didn't have much.. growing up in a poor environment you meet a variety of people...especially the shady kind.. what I'm saying is some of my close life long friends do live this lifestyle.. A lot of people always asks them why don't you go out and get a real job? They always say.. "work is work.. regardless of how you look at it.. You work hard at whatever you choose.. If you succeed.. no one can tell you any different.." ..People say, o i came from a poor family and i didn't turn into a thug.. well good for you.. That's admirable you stayed on the right path.. But the other guy worked just as hard and sacrificed just as much to get to where you are.. if not further..

There are the smart G's who know when not to cross the line.. But then there are always those truly evil people who will do anything to get the dough..

Regardless of what everyone here thinks.. I will always respect the "game".. because it takes a big set of balls to step in.. and an even bigger set of balls to get out..

[3seriesBeeM]

Lol not only do I say no "rip" I say fuck em gee wizz they have families, well maybe if they actually gave 2 fucks about their families they wouldn't have taken up jobs dropping rocks, everyone of these people are in it for quick money and trying to be somebody, this guy who got shot is 21 and was renting a penthouse and driving a 100,000 range, your telling me the same would have happened to him working construction or flipping burgers?

If you play with fire your gonna get burned and anyone who sympathizes with these people I'm sure you'll feel the same when your mom or dad gets killed in crossfire and buddy who just killed a couple people gets out in 20 years and couldn't care less about you or your family

In van it seems like murder is pretty easy to get away with IMO the only way to at least put a thought into these ppls minds would be mandatory life with no parole.

couldnt have said it better myself these guys know the risks going into this "buisness" and if they really cared about there families dont you think that they might think twice before getting into a buisness were you dont know if you are going to be alive the next day. And not only that what about there family being put at risk what if somebody decides to shoot up the house they dont care whos on the inside and your family could be dead. I could give two fuks about these drug dealers killing each other off its one less thug on the street and one less person thats gonna end up in jail were are tax dollars feed them.
something needs to be done to make these people thinmk twice about murder we need stiffer drug laws and I think any gangland slaying should be life w/out parole

[Presto]

I think it's time to concede defeat with the war on drugs. Legalize everything, and tax it heavily. Take away criminals' source of income. Easier said than done, I know.

[.Dream.Time]

couldnt have said it better myself these guys know the risks going into this "buisness" and if they really cared about there families dont you think that they might think twice before getting into a buisness were you dont know if you are going to be alive the next day. And not only that what about there family being put at risk what if somebody decides to shoot up the house they dont care whos on the inside and your family could be dead. I could give two fuks about these drug dealers killing each other off its one less thug on the street and one less person thats gonna end up in jail were are tax dollars feed them.
something needs to be done to make these people thinmk twice about murder we need stiffer drug laws and I think any gangland slaying should be life w/out parole

First you say that there's one less person in jail to pay tax dollars for and then you say there should be life w/out parole?

???

[[ jay ]]

There's a saying in Chinese that applies to these guys....DYYYY SAYYYY....."deserved to die".

[Synarchist]

meehh...

Glamorous?

I understand a lot of people hate on drug dealers and gangsters because of how they are portrayed by the media.. I understand the fear this puts in people because there have been innocent people who do get caught in the crossfire and die needlessly.. Everyone has family, friends and people who care about them.. Gangsters are people too, just they have chosen a lifestyle that the general public deems as immoral or none beneficial to society.. a majority of these guys are sucked in by $$$$$.. but some of these guys are just looking for a better life, trapped in their own existence and will jump on any opportunities they can get. Most of them just need that stepping stone to move on to better things... Most people don't understand that..

I came up through poverty and didn't have much.. i can understand when you're young, seeing one or two thousand dollars can make you drool...My family is honest and hard working and when they immigrated here they didn't have much.. growing up in a poor environment you meet a variety of people...especially the shady kind.. what I'm saying is some of my close life long friends do live this lifestyle.. A lot of people always asks them why don't you go out and get a real job? They always say.. "work is work.. regardless of how you look at it.. You work hard at whatever you choose.. If you succeed.. no one can tell you any different.." ..People say, o i came from a poor family and i didn't turn into a thug.. well good for you.. That's admirable you stayed on the right path.. But the other guy worked just as hard and sacrificed just as much to get to where you are.. if not further..

There are the smart G's who know when not to cross the line.. But then there are always those truly evil people who will do anything to get the dough..

Regardless of what everyone here thinks.. I will always respect the "game".. because it takes a big set of balls to step in.. and an even bigger set of balls to get out..

werd

[nipples]

First you say that there's one less person in jail to pay tax dollars for and then you say there should be life w/out parole?

???

i think he means if thuggy 1 kills thuggy2 gangland style, thuggy1 gets to live but in life without parole.

[Synarchist]

the whole world is pretty much run by 'gangsters'
oddly enough its what makes a city prosper
now im not encouraging it in any way
but the fact remains that its a intergrated part of this world
it doesnt matter where you go
they will exist as long as money and drugs exists
how are you going to get rid of that?

think those distinguished politicians in this world are any better?
how many people died needlessly cuz of the wars bush started?
millions of innocent people and all for what? heroin? oil?
you guys think thats not gangster shit?
that is just one example

btw it was Bayer the maker of Aspirin that created heroin
and similiar situation with cocaine
hell it was both dispensed legally anywhere at one point
until they realized 'hey this gets people addicted as hell'
which meant tons of $$$ for those companies as well as the governments

the real problem is the corrupt leaders that exist today
and the need for change in laws and regulations
though many of the gangsters did choose the life they live
some didnt and you and i have no right to say stuff like "good riddance"
we could be a bit more civilized by not posting such ignorant remarks

[ynot-llat]

the whole world is pretty much run by 'gangsters'
oddly enough its what makes a city prosper
now im not encouraging it in any way
but the fact remains that its a intergrated part of this world
it doesnt matter where you go
they will exist as long as money and drugs exists
how are you going to get rid of that?

think those distinguished politicians in this world are any better?
how many people died needlessly cuz of the wars bush started?
millions of innocent people and all for what? heroin? oil?
you guys think thats not gangster shit?
that is just one example

btw it was Bayer the maker of Aspirin that created heroin
and similiar situation with cocaine
hell it was both dispensed legally anywhere at one point
until they realized 'hey this gets people addicted as hell'
which meant tons of $$$ for those companies as well as the governments

the real problem is the corrupt leaders that exist today
and the need for change in laws and regulations
though many of the gangsters did choose the life they live
some didnt and you and i have no right to say stuff like "good riddance"
we could be a bit more civilized by not posting such ignorant remarks

very well thought out post bro.
you are correct governments are the biggest gangs out there

"governments are corrupt not to be trusted,
democracy's wheels are rusted, or never were properly oiled
mass murder, not the drug game, its probably oil"

[Synarchist]

thanks tall-tony

did you know? it mainly started with the british government
they are one of the originators of business 'fronts'
a good example would be the east india tea company
its mind blowing how much opium they trafficked in their day
they invaded india, china, australia, canada, etc etc
and killed millions of people in their wake
a famous quote by the british during that time was "currency is the new power"
back in the day india was the main supplier of opium followed by china
hence the reason why hong kong was under british rule till 1997
(most people dont know this for some reason)
(also notice how prosperous hong kong is)

the war in afghanistan was mainly over control of heroin production
this was aired on national tv as well as during an interview on cnn
did you know that they produced 40% of the worlds heroin supply
until the taliban forces invaded which dropped the production to 10%
thats when british, american, and canadian forces were sent to fight
(there are much more details on this which i wont go into)
today afghanistan is producing 90% of the worlds heroin supply

most gangsters on the streets are simply shaped into what they are today
we all know what drugs do to people and what they will do for it
everyone suffers and a lot of them die early
both the junkies as well as the traffickers
because of what the governments and corporations did
all in short "its all about the benjamins baby"

[raygunpk]

They need to get the CSI team for arrests! They'll find traces of semen and toenail clippings somewhere at the scene.

[BabyblooLexus]

shit, crime rate was going down too..
wit this recession its def gna increase =(

[hal0g0dv2]

another one bites the dust

[Aetios]

he went to finish the job I see

[thumper]

heard on the radio this morning a parent of the victim in the range rover saying that he was a victim of mistaken identity, and that the range rover was borrowed, and the apartment in surrey where all those people died was owned by the person, however he had moved out 8 months prior and had been subleting it :confused:

not sure who to believe... the police or the parent.

next thing i'll hear is a statement from the bacon brothers' parents making claims that their children are perfect angels and it's been all a misunderstanding :rolleyes:

[Ulic Qel-Droma]

tell us something we don't know man. gangs or whatever, are just groups of people. this world is made of gangs, we choose to live under the canadian "gang". every gang has ideologies, but all gangs have one thing in common, they don't let people fuck around on their turf and they try to extort one another, and usually they gang up on each other too. we all know this dude. we're all gangsters, we live in a thug world.

the whole world is pretty much run by 'gangsters'
oddly enough its what makes a city prosper
now im not encouraging it in any way
but the fact remains that its a intergrated part of this world
it doesnt matter where you go
they will exist as long as money and drugs exists
how are you going to get rid of that?

think those distinguished politicians in this world are any better?
how many people died needlessly cuz of the wars bush started?
millions of innocent people and all for what? heroin? oil?
you guys think thats not gangster shit?
that is just one example

btw it was Bayer the maker of Aspirin that created heroin
and similiar situation with cocaine
hell it was both dispensed legally anywhere at one point
until they realized 'hey this gets people addicted as hell'
which meant tons of $$$ for those companies as well as the governments

the real problem is the corrupt leaders that exist today
and the need for change in laws and regulations
though many of the gangsters did choose the life they live
some didnt and you and i have no right to say stuff like "good riddance"
we could be a bit more civilized by not posting such ignorant remarks

very well thought out post bro.
you are correct governments are the biggest gangs out there

"governments are corrupt not to be trusted,
democracy's wheels are rusted, or never were properly oiled
mass murder, not the drug game, its probably oil"

thanks tall-tony

did you know? it mainly started with the british government
they are one of the originators of business 'fronts'
a good example would be the east india tea company
its mind blowing how much opium they trafficked in their day
they invaded india, china, australia, canada, etc etc
and killed millions of people in their wake
a famous quote by the british during that time was "currency is the new power"
back in the day india was the main supplier of opium followed by china
hence the reason why hong kong was under british rule till 1997
(most people dont know this for some reason)
(also notice how prosperous hong kong is)

the war in afghanistan was mainly over control of heroin production
this was aired on national tv as well as during an interview on cnn
did you know that they produced 40% of the worlds heroin supply
until the taliban forces invaded which dropped the production to 10%
thats when british, american, and canadian forces were sent to fight
(there are much more details on this which i wont go into)
today afghanistan is producing 90% of the worlds heroin supply

most gangsters on the streets are simply shaped into what they are today
we all know what drugs do to people and what they will do for it
everyone suffers and a lot of them die early
both the junkies as well as the traffickers
because of what the governments and corporations did
all in short "its all about the benjamins baby"

[Synarchist]

tell us something we don't know man. gangs or whatever, are just groups of people. this world is made of gangs, we choose to live under the canadian "gang". every gang has ideologies, but all gangs have one thing in common, they don't let people fuck around on their turf and they try to extort one another, and usually they gang up on each other too. we all know this dude. we're all gangsters, we live in a thug world.

you are a wise one jedi :thumbsup:
but im not a 'gangster' :confused:

[Hondaracer]

Ulic the new 2pac

[racerman88]

it is payback now for living the gangster lifestyle of selling drugs, fast cash and nice cars. Have to remember, if you choose that lifestyle, you have a target on your back

[MegaMx]

You guys are all fucking heartless pussy e-thugs. All these drug dealers or "gangsters" got family n shit too, and there not going around IN the mall blasting everybody to get ONE guy. OMG IAM SO SCARED!!!! SOMEONE GOT SHOT IN THE PARKING LOT WHILE IAM AT FUCKING EBGAMES WAT IF I GOT HIT BY THE CROSSFIRE OMG. no one in this fucking thread said RIP or anything. Give some respect they are human beings too.

I don't think anybody is saying this. I think the consensus is "wee another motherfker is dead" few hundred more to go.

as for the mall kids

http://randallsbytheswamp.com/images/kid-middle-finger.jpg

and yes they have a families who are probably relieved and out partying now. low lives like this get what's coming to them and no rip for them.

[phatpower]

The government my be a head gang lord but they don't shoot people or innocent people with a stray bullet and they have rules to they have to follow..

Gang's don't live by a code anymore they just out for themselves and that's dangerous, that's why we get public shooting's like we have been having, they do nothing for helping people they kill people every day with there drugs they break up family member's with there drugs or recruiting, there shootings, there attitudes towards the world.

Theirs good that does come out of this their is one less bad guy out their..


The bad news is someones family has to deal with a loss of a loved one and that has to go down to the coroner's to id the body They can be bad or good, Other bad news about this is that the tax dollars that have to be used to solve the crimes that are committed. The cost of the family's for the funeral and so on.

Us as a civilization that play's buy the rules we should step up to the government and the judges and lawyers that we can't see or deal with more deaths and crimes that should be dealt with in a proper manner, When the police arrest the criminals I'm not saying lets bring in the death penitently but make the laws stronger and stricter so the lawyer and judges can't bend them so much.

Our prisons should be self funded I mean that the people that have to stay there should work to pay off there time, I could go on with this but you get the picture make the criminal pay for his or her acts all the way down to the police arresting them.

I think it's a problem that some how we need to fix and its a shame that we cant.

[Jason00S2000]

I wish living in Vancouver was more like Fallout 3

[SlySi]

meehh...

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Glamorous?

I understand a lot of people hate on drug dealers and gangsters because of how they are portrayed by the media.. I understand the fear this puts in people because there have been innocent people who do get caught in the crossfire and die needlessly.. Everyone has family, friends and people who care about them.. Gangsters are people too, just they have chosen a lifestyle that the general public deems as immoral or none beneficial to society.. a majority of these guys are sucked in by $$$$$.. but some of these guys are just looking for a better life, trapped in their own existence and will jump on any opportunities they can get. Most of them just need that stepping stone to move on to better things... Most people don't understand that..

I came up through poverty and didn't have much.. i can understand when you're young, seeing one or two thousand dollars can make you drool...My family is honest and hard working and when they immigrated here they didn't have much.. growing up in a poor environment you meet a variety of people...especially the shady kind.. what I'm saying is some of my close life long friends do live this lifestyle.. A lot of people always asks them why don't you go out and get a real job? They always say.. "work is work.. regardless of how you look at it.. You work hard at whatever you choose.. If you succeed.. no one can tell you any different.." ..People say, o i came from a poor family and i didn't turn into a thug.. well good for you.. That's admirable you stayed on the right path.. But the other guy worked just as hard and sacrificed just as much to get to where you are.. if not further..

There are the smart G's who know when not to cross the line.. But then there are always those truly evil people who will do anything to get the dough..

Regardless of what everyone here thinks.. I will always respect the "game".. because it takes a big set of balls to step in.. and an even bigger set of balls to get out..

fuck that...
"The general public has deemed it immoral or none beneficial to society."

WTF?
Of course its immoral..... its fucking illegal...

"There are smart G's"
lol..... :thumbsup:
The last 3-4 killed clearly arent the smart ones... lol

"But the other guy worked just as hard and sacrificed just as much to get to where you are.. if not further.. "

That is one messed up analogy...

[kookoobird88]

shit another shooting last night at another IGA broadway and arbutus SHIT

[Hondaracer]

I wish living in Vancouver was more like Fallout 3

id be down for that

[penner2k]

hmm... I think this gang war is being funded by safeway or save on!

[shenmecar]

hmm... I think this gang war is being funded by safeway or save on!

indirectly then WE are funding the gang war!

[phatpower]

Its not getting any better any were

[threezero]

fuck that...
"The general public has deemed it immoral or none beneficial to society."

WTF?
Of course its immoral..... its fucking illegal...

"There are smart G's"
lol..... :thumbsup:
The last 3-4 killed clearly arent the smart ones... lol

"But the other guy worked just as hard and sacrificed just as much to get to where you are.. if not further.. "

That is one messed up analogy...

I don't think having gang association is illegal unless u are connected with illicit acts? like there are lots of non gangster hells angels.

regarding smart G's
just becuz theya re kill they are not smart? I think every gangster knows the only outcome of their deviant lifestyle is either in the hospital, the morgue or jail. Its just part of the job.

you have no idea what its like to live on the other side of the society. Gangster don't get alot of thing you and me take for grants. what they give up the most? the higher a gangster climbs and the more successful he/she is the more ppl trying to kill him.


No supporting gangs here... just that i find alot of ppl even ones i know in real life tend to have the same kind of mentality. they think all gangster deserves to die becuz they choose to live the life.

[bossxx]

white fullsized range rover

wtf is a fullsized range rover?

[hal0g0dv2]

wtf is a fullsized range rover?

trailer on the back ?