[windchaser]

i noticed tons of STIs on the road but i rarely spot an evo.... Whats the reason people are choosing STIs over the evos ?

Which car is more reliable if not modded ? and which one is cheaper to mainten and run ?

thanx

[death_blossom]

It depends which "version" of the STi's and EVOs you are comparing. Canada had only just received the Lancer Evolution last year, where we have had the STi since 2004.

From what I've seen, I see more EVO X compared to the hatchback STi's.

As for reliability, it's been proven that the ej20/ej25 in the STi's are very reliable. The EVO X uses a brand new engine (4B11), so long term reliability is unknown at this point. However, the aftermarket tuners are pushing pretty big numbers out of the engine already. So this could be an indication that the EVO X will be just as reliable as its 4G63 powered predecessors.

[Jackygor]

So far, for the Evo X, there is absolutely no problem with the engine as far as daily driving goes, there are more problem with the transmission as they go pretty quick, around 11k to 20k. The SST so far proves to be fairly reliable. surprising. There are no reports of breaking from excessive power nor under track or normal driving. The only thing is that the SST overheats easily during heavy track sessions, however, people has installed a fan on the cooler and it stopped over heating.

[alex.w *//]

i would choose evo x just because of the aggressive front end

[TOPEC]

the sti has a more refind ride when compared to the evo, and for the price ur paying, the sti has a better interior than the evo.

[orange7]

They are both good.

i sure wouldn't be complaining if i get to have either one of them.

[k20a]

They are both good.

i sure wouldn't be complaining if i get to have either one of them.

+1

[elyk]

i noticed tons of STIs on the road but i rarely spot an evo.... Whats the reason people are choosing STIs over the evos ?

Which car is more reliable if not modded ? and which one is cheaper to mainten and run ?

thanx

i like the look of the evox better.the sawc system is outstanding. both would be expensive to maintain, and i would do everything that is recommended. evox comes with advan tires which will last maybe 15k. warranty on both are great im sure. the evo and sti are not your average cars. you do need money to own one.

[fetched]

^
They are one of the most reliable sport cars around. Don't worry about it too much. STI is more reliable than EVOX though.

[racerman88]

test drive both to see which one you like the best

[TOPEC]

both would be expensive to maintain, and i would do everything that is recommended.

uhh no they're not. wtf r u talking about.

[elyk]

uhh no they're not. wtf r u talking about.

I was refuring to things like tires (dont last), brembo pads (dont last), 2 piece rotors, clutch is weak and dealer maintance and inspections, fluids. IMO thats expensive.

[!SG]

there are tones of sti's on the road because its been available for longer than the evo.

you will see more evo's on the road now since the changed the import laws for the front bumper.

this means a lot of the older evo's from the states can be imported. evo X was the first evo that was allowed into canada with the old laws...

[TOPEC]

I was refuring to things like tires (dont last), brembo pads (dont last), 2 piece rotors, clutch is weak and dealer maintance and inspections, fluids. IMO thats expensive.

ok sure, tires dont last as long as other kinds, but if u dont drive like an ass it can last, same with the brakes, if u know how to use them, they can last. clutch is not weak, i dont see how u think it's weak, mine has 56K KM on it and it's still going strong. and as for dealer maintence, u can do everything urself and save ATLEAST HALF the cost.

[Mancini]

I have a perception that Subaru is a higher quality product than Mitsu. True or not, I'm sure that many people have that same perception.

And to those basing reliability solely on engine longevity; if the car built around a power plant falls apart, then engine reliability means little.

[Govenator]

Subaru is far better quality then mitsubishi, the 6sp tranny in the STI's are solid. Overall subaru will last you far more many years as being a well rounded AWD car then the EVO will be. I love EVO's for their appearence and performance, its true the EVO will respond better to mods and be quicker in different areas but just like the STI the motors can only handle so much stock. The biggest issue with STI motors is the event of a ringland cracking, there have been recalls and stop of sales and motors and blocks have been replaced under warranty because subaru reconizes their mistakes unlike mistubishi. Another thing is many new 08-09 STI's have been given a bad factory tune, which leads to motors being blown. All these issues are fixed by cobb tunes or other company tunes that take the factory map and make it way safer and more driveable so your motor is safe.

[Govenator]

Oh ya the STI is $10,000 cheaper then the evo....add a downpipe and tune and your making a evo cry, add some sways+tires and a good alignment and your driving a car that will keep up with $100,000 cars.

[2damaxmr2]

auto = teh ghey

[Leopold Stotch]

i like the look of the evox better.the sawc system is outstanding. both would be expensive to maintain, and i would do everything that is recommended. evox comes with advan tires which will last maybe 15k. warranty on both are great im sure. the evo and sti are not your average cars. you do need money to own one.

i wouldn't call them expensive to maintain, but have you seen the tires on the GD STIs those didnt' last.

although i'm not sure about the newer ones.


personally i think i'd rather have Lancer Evolution X GSR

i sat in a EVO x and i just loved it.

[Jackygor]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a92/jackyhung1234/aIMG_1355.jpg

I see a lot of Evos here...hehe

[mc604]

sweet pic. i love the look of the evo's the new sti's just loook to plain

[Jackygor]

Oh ya the STI is $10,000 cheaper then the evo....add a downpipe and tune and your making a evo cry, add some sways+tires and a good alignment and your driving a car that will keep up with $100,000 cars.

MSRP for STI is 39k while GSR starts at 41k..not 10k difference. You are obviously uninformed at how well the Evo X also responds to mod, so I will stop there. :)

[fetched]

^
Not really, it's known for Evo X's new dual clutch to fuck up when you tune it, it's too weak to handle any more power. Manual is a different story though. both solid looking cars, two different styles.

[Mancini]

sweet pic. i love the look of the evo's the new sti's just loook to plain

Not plain. Stealth :thumbsup:

[?NR]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a92/jackyhung1234/aIMG_1355.jpg

I see a lot of Evos here...hehe
oh so that was you guys..

I didn't know there was an Evo meet there, drove up to take some pictures and my friend asked : " why are all the cars there almost identical?".

:lol decent weather for photoshoot and nice rides!

[shenmecar]

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a92/jackyhung1234/aIMG_1355.jpg

I see a lot of Evos here...hehe

uh oh, stis in trouble.

anyways, i actually see a lot of EVO instead of hatchback STI.

[J-Wangsta]

STi all the way =)

[J-Wangsta]

STi all the way

[Sp3cial_K]

sti's sound meaner >=/

there are more sti's around too because they are one of , if not the easiest cars to import from the states.

[Govenator]

MSRP for STI is 39k while GSR starts at 41k..not 10k difference. You are obviously uninformed at how well the Evo X also responds to mod, so I will stop there. :)

lol I assume you own a evo, I was refering to the evo X MR which is 10k more. I know evo's respond better to mods thats what I allready stated. In the end a subaru will out last a evo plain and simple and perform far better overall.

[Govenator]

i wouldn't call them expensive to maintain, but have you seen the tires on the GD STIs those didnt' last.

although i'm not sure about the newer ones.


personally i think i'd rather have Lancer Evolution X GSR

i sat in a EVO x and i just loved it.

have you sat in a new sti? only thing I would choose differently is having the recaros that the evo gets.

[TOPEC]

have you sat in a new sti? only thing I would choose differently is having the recaros that the evo gets.

same shit, sti seats r made by recaros too, just without the huge red RECARO badge on it.
u would pick an evo over an sti just simply because of a badge, thats RICE.

[Jackygor]

same shit, sti seats r made by recaros too, just without the huge red RECARO badge on it.
u would pick an evo over an sti just simply because of a badge, thats RICE.

I have sat in both the 08 STI as well as the 08 GSR and MR seats. Regardless of the manufacture of both sits, the ones in the Evo holds you way better.

[Jackygor]

lol I assume you own a evo, I was refering to the evo X MR which is 10k more. I know evo's respond better to mods thats what I allready stated. In the end a subaru will out last a evo plain and simple and perform far better overall.

I am not sure how much truth you hold in your claim regarding STI lasting longer than Evo, but I do understand that Subaru has a better reputation in terms of reliability compared to Mitsubishi.

[TOPEC]

they are both reliable cars, it's just subaru has a better reliable rep than mitsu.
reason for this is when the evo came out, ricers just slapped on whatever parts they liked and blow the shit outta their engine, then go on net cussing, flamming, bashing the shit outta the manufactures. when u hear more stories about ricers blowing up engines than actual power making, it makes the car sound like it's not reliable.

a great example of this is dumbasses trying to do burnouts, donuts, redline clutch drops, all end up breaking their tranmision/diffs and trying to claim warrenty. when they break their shit, they go back to dealership which tells them to fuck off, they go online and bash bash bash, while no one gets to hears the other side of the story why the tranny/diff broke.

[Govenator]

I have sat in both the 08 STI as well as the 08 GSR and MR seats. Regardless of the manufacture of both sits, the ones in the Evo holds you way better.

I totally agree, evo wins in the seating category for sure

[Govenator]

same shit, sti seats r made by recaros too, just without the huge red RECARO badge on it.
u would pick an evo over an sti just simply because of a badge, thats RICE.

haha, the sti seats are not actually recaros pal:)

[jimmerz]

this argument will never end just like with the previous generations of both cars =.="

[Govenator]

this argument will never end just like with the previous generations of both cars =.="

true, each year all the car reviewers pick one or the other. Its all personal preference in what you want out of a 50,000 dollar car. I would start with a STI, then later move to a EVO. Own both for awhile and go from there, in a perfect world I would own both and call it a day :)

[monkeywrench]

seem to spot more evos than stis lately too

^lol nice pic, EVOs: ur fucked nao.

[Adsdeman]

Comfort and the fact that i work for subaru!

[.Renn.Sport]

until Mitsu have a proper 6MT for the EVO, i'm still gonna go with the STI.

[Evolutionian]

theres more evos around.. but still like 2 in a month.. stis are like 1 in two month.. lol

[death_blossom]

I totally agree, evo wins in the seating category for sure

I have sat in both the 08 STI as well as the 08 GSR and MR seats. Regardless of the manufacture of both sits, the ones in the Evo holds you way better.

the North American version of the STi gets wider seats for the bigger bodytypes of Americans. JDM STi seats are much tighter, probably a lot closer to the EVO's seats.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

ya despite the EVO x hasnt been in the market for that long, i still see the latest gen Subies a lot more .

Subies has way better interior than EVO. Well EVo's interior layout , dashboard etc etc is exactly the same as the regular Lancer GTS, sat in my friends and i can tell u i almost cut my hand touching the knobs and the dash. :rolleyes:


As for the look, i prefer X > new gen of Impreza.

04 STi still looks the best to me, not feeling the latest trend of the STi