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GM asks for an ADDITIONAL $16.6 Bill/Chrysler wants $5 Bill.
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hk20000
02-17-2009, 02:53 PM
LOLZ.
sexyaccord
02-17-2009, 04:52 PM
LOLZZ.
monkeywrench
02-17-2009, 05:08 PM
LOLZZZ.
fT-z33wor
02-17-2009, 05:32 PM
lol epic fail
orange7
02-17-2009, 07:40 PM
LOLZZZZ
tiger_handheld
02-17-2009, 07:53 PM
is March 31 the drop date? for the Big 3 ?
i say they all merge into 1 .. and become a nationalized auto co.
Carl Johnson
02-17-2009, 07:53 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if GM, Chrysler, and Ford all file for bankruptcy by the end of this year. Auto sales won't be seeing a increase for years, even then why would anyone want to own a car that's made by the big three.
Armind
02-17-2009, 07:54 PM
LOLZZZZZ
What_the?
02-17-2009, 08:53 PM
I know... why would anyone buy a new car knowing that the company could very well go bankrupt in a year, leaving you without warranty and parts?
hk20000
02-17-2009, 09:11 PM
LOLZZZZZZX
C-c-c-c-c-combo breaker!
monkeywrench
02-17-2009, 09:42 PM
so are they dead yet??
RRxtar
02-17-2009, 10:22 PM
even then why would anyone want to own a car that's made by the big three.
because hyundai doesnt sell a 1 ton pickup truck for me to use as a work truck.
Carl Johnson
02-17-2009, 10:39 PM
not yet man. you can bet they will tho if the demand is there.
!Aznboi128
02-17-2009, 10:54 PM
was skipping thru channels today and came upon some guy saying ho american cars are a lot better now must save his job ...
and some lady says her civic that she had before was no where near powerful or roomy enough comparing to her used crown vic and it was cheaper too!!!
Mancini
02-17-2009, 10:54 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if GM, Chrysler, and Ford all file for bankruptcy by the end of this year...
...after receiving a bailout.
Harvey Specter
02-18-2009, 12:24 AM
I think Chrysler is basically done.
smoothie.
02-18-2009, 12:58 AM
I think Chrysler is basically done.
i sure as hell hope not :haha:
id hate to find a new job
Harvey Specter
02-18-2009, 01:03 AM
i sure as hell hope not :haha:
id hate to find a new job
Just wondering, what Chrysler car is selling well? Is the Challenger doing well?
asian_XL
02-18-2009, 03:06 AM
I wonder how many car manufacturers americans can create in China with $21 billion?
thumper
02-18-2009, 05:56 AM
Just wondering, what Chrysler car is selling well? Is the Challenger doing well?
even though they are not selling as much as before i think it's still only their trucks that are still selling compared to all the other models they sell.
hk20000
02-18-2009, 07:52 AM
yawn with their shitty build quality the only thing that makes sense for them to do now is outsource all manufacturing to China. Buick is doing so well over there.
If the top dogs want their job bad enough this is probably their next move.
q0192837465
02-18-2009, 09:01 AM
I dunno about the new American cars but the 1988 chevy cavalier I used to drive was not bad.
hotjoint
02-18-2009, 10:31 AM
fuckin done son
The only way they can survive is a complete restructure and overhaul.
They need to create cheaper greener cars, electric or hybrid and there union rules are killing them.
If one of the 3 came out with a purely electric car i'd probably be one of the first to buy it and live to regret it in the future, but at least it doesnt use gas.
LemonH2O
02-18-2009, 09:47 PM
The only way they can survive is a complete restructure and overhaul.
They need to create cheaper greener cars, electric or hybrid and there union rules are killing them.
If one of the 3 came out with a purely electric car i'd probably be one of the first to buy it and live to regret it in the future, but at least it doesnt use gas.
+1 for the most part. However, the news said something about with the gas prices lower now, by the time they catch up with these hybrids, electrical, consumers may not be as interested to spend that kind of money to save a bit on gas.
Hybrid technology is still so expensive and hard to mass produce, they wouldn't be able to keep the cost of the cars within reason for consumers to purchase with the whole econ going to shits.
Ford may still make it for awhile, I'm pretty sure they didn't actually get a bailout previously? (may be mistaken?) Ford has improved a great deal in terms of quality inside out. Just look around, the Escape is everywhere, the F-150's are still pretty well one of the best choices for people who NEED trucks.
Derek128
02-18-2009, 10:53 PM
this come in my mind
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Marco911
02-19-2009, 03:37 AM
They should let Chrysler go bust. Those private equity sharks are doing nothing to invest in the company. They have no future product road map to speak off.
thumper
02-19-2009, 05:54 AM
Ford may still make it for awhile, I'm pretty sure they didn't actually get a bailout previously? (may be mistaken?) Ford has improved a great deal in terms of quality inside out. Just look around, the Escape is everywhere, the F-150's are still pretty well one of the best choices for people who NEED trucks.
i have to agreee. of all of them, ford actually seems to have a plan. they sold off a lot of stuff from their PAG, and have been saying before the fallout that they were planning to bring key models from their european lines. all chrysler/cerebus has to say is some vague union with FIAT, that's it.
I don't understand the long term corporate plans of automakers. They are in the business of selling cars which are powered by gasoline, gasoline might be cheaper now b/c the economy is in the crapper but guaranteed it will go back up in price mainly b/c its a finite commodity and comes down to supply and demand.
Gas won't last forever and will probably be gone within 50 years so they deserve to go bankrupt for being idiots and not seeing it coming, and if they have then they are doing it all for profit and screwed themselves up the azz . For those of you who haven't seen the movie "who killed the electric car" GM came out with an electric car back in 1996 which was super popular by all the consumers who leased them for the short period of time they were on the road until GM said that nobody liked them (lies) and it wasn't profitable enough (more lies) so they confiscated them all and crushed them. wiki/General_Motors_EV1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1)
Things need to change in the auto industry and having 1 or 2 less car companies is probably a good thing, except for those losing there jobs. I would say electric cars are the wave of the future but corporate $$$$$ gets in the way. If guys can turn MR2s and other cars in there garages into electric cars on there own for under $10,000 simply using an electric motor and a ton of old used batteries why can't car companies especially if GM did it 13 years ago. There is now way better technology and a million times the demand.
Mugen EvOlutioN
02-19-2009, 01:58 PM
i think their trucks line up are still not selling too shabby considering all my contractors uses it
LemonH2O
02-19-2009, 02:11 PM
Gas won't last forever and will probably be gone within 50 years so they deserve to go bankrupt for being idiots and not seeing it coming, and if they have then they are doing it all for profit and screwed themselves up the azz.
Total conspiracy, oil will not run out in our lifetime, or even our kids lifetime. There's so much oil in the Saudi oil reserves they had to slow extraction/production to try to stop the prices from dropping worldwide. When the prices went up ridiculously, it was due to economic speculation. It was not because supply was lower than demand.
yangwenli
02-19-2009, 02:21 PM
http://www.mrdiggles.com/img/shitty-cars.jpg
Total conspiracy, oil will not run out in our lifetime, or even our kids lifetime. There's so much oil in the Saudi oil reserves they had to slow extraction/production to try to stop the prices from dropping worldwide. When the prices went up ridiculously, it was due to economic speculation. It was not because supply was lower than demand.
People could say what your saying is total conspiracy as well, tis true the U.S. and other countries have huge reserves but how do you really know how much oil is still hidden in the ground? did someone crawl down there and check with a flashlight?
The underlying point is that car companies need to move away from combustion engines and evolve like every other type of business in the world has done. We're using early 1900's technology to power our cars and nothing much has changed in the last 100 years. Except we now have navigation systems and gas cars which are no more efficient then they were 50 years ago. They either have some dumb scientist or need to hire new ones
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