[MegaMx]

So this morning, I dropped my gf off at the skytrain, returned home. I was sitting on the couch reading up on some stuff with the TV on and I notice a black blob on my patio, I stood up and had a look and 6 feet from me on the other side of the window is a guy waring all black with a bandana on his face covering everything up to his eyes. We make eye contact and he just casually turned around. I quickly turned the alarm on so if anybody opens anything the alarm goes off. I called up 911 and within 10 minutes at least 5 cruisers were patrolling the area and came to talk to me.

Now I'm freaking out and have no idea if I was targeted or if it was random since none of my neighbors noticed anything and all of them were at home (I know almost all the neighbors around me).

I have a good alarm in my home which wasn't on since I was at home but I'll start using the stay feature more often. Regarding preventing and making it safer I'm considering two more options:

1) adding some cameras so at least i can see what direction he came from, car or no car, random or not random
2) dog, i wanted a dog for a long time but this gets me a better excuse since i heard a lot of criminals are not fond of barking dogs

Any ideas?

[Honyoung]

get the dog its more useful

[Culture_Vulture]

dogs/hounds are a better deterrents than cameras imo.

Can't think of anything else except:
-Buy some of those automated light switches that are set to go off at certain times.

-When I used to live in the suburbs in Asia, I kept a baseball bat near my doorway. My dad kept a machete beside his bed (LOL). It's a good way to tell them to GTFO without using force.

[MegaMx]

dogs/hounds are a better deterrents than cameras imo.

Can't think of anything else except:
-Buy some of those automated light switches that are set to go off at certain times.

-When I used to live in the suburbs in Asia, I kept a baseball bat near my doorway. My dad kept a machete beside his bed (LOL). It's a good way to tell them to GTFO without using force.
lol nice, i got a few hunting shotguns and rifles in my gun safe but it's a lot easier (at least for me) to talk the talk than when it happens because standing 10 ft from somebody who's wearing all black and a mask only showing his eyes freaks the shit of you and the only thing you can think of is how much time do you have to make a reaction.

I'd love to corner one of these mofos and point a shotgun right in his face but I never thought I'd be as scared as I was. If he (or they) come back again I'll be more prepared but I want to see how I can prevent them from even thinking about coming back.

I'm in one of the lowest crime neighborhoods in the tri-cities and my neighbor has been here for over 6 years without even the tiniest of incidents.

[iwantaskyline]

There was an attempted home invasion at my buddys house before. He's got a barking dog as well and all they did was bear mace the dog and continued trying to break in.

[EuroTRASH]

don't forget to keep a ball and a glove with your bat, because "it's not there for defense"

[BabyblooLexus]

sry to hear that, last yr my house got robbed twice,
aft that my mom upped our alarm system (now we have that 'stay' feature u speak of)
and we have 5 cameras outside our house. the camera system can be viewd from any of our computers/laptops in our house that has the program. it records any movement.
so far its only been useful for annoying door to door knockers
but ya camera system definately gives us a peace of mind

and yes a dog wud definately help, like a doberman pinscher (my fav!) or something
my neighbor actually puts a "beware of dog" sign up even tho he doesnt have a dog
that'll probably help too

Edit: oh yea, and we have 3 motion detectors. it even detects small movements like cats. it makes a really loud noise that can be heard from outside, so that'll probably scare the robber off

[What_the?]

do you have motion detection lights around? like if they walk around your backyard, at least make it light up so they aren't hiding in the dark?

[cococly]

where do you live?

You have to tell us where this happened and any RS member in the area could keep an eye on their cars

[MegaMx]

do you have motion detection lights around? like if they walk around your backyard, at least make it light up so they aren't hiding in the dark?

I do on the patio but this happened at 9am! From what I learned in school most crime like this happens during the day

[MegaMx]

sry to hear that, last yr my house got robbed twice,
aft that my mom upped our alarm system (now we have that 'stay' feature u speak of)
and we have 5 cameras outside our house. the camera system can be viewd from any of our computers/laptops in our house that has the program. it records any movement.
so far its only been useful for annoying door to door knockers
but ya camera system definately gives us a peace of mind

and yes a dog wud definately help, like a doberman pinscher (my fav!) or something
my neighbor actually puts a "beware of dog" sign up even tho he doesnt have a dog
that'll probably help too

Edit: oh yea, and we have 3 motion detectors. it even detects small movements like cats
how did it get robbed twice? did your mom have any alarm at all? was it robbed when the alarm was off or when somebody was at home?

the camera system i picked up today allows me to get txt notifications of movement in certain areas and can view video from any camera on iphone or internet with login.

[moomooCow]

sry to hear that, last yr my house got robbed twice,
aft that my mom upped our alarm system (now we have that 'stay' feature u speak of)
and we have 5 cameras outside our house. the camera system can be viewd from any of our computers/laptops in our house that has the program. it records any movement.
so far its only been useful for annoying door to door knockers
but ya camera system definately gives us a peace of mind

and yes a dog wud definately help, like a doberman pinscher (my fav!) or something
my neighbor actually puts a "beware of dog" sign up even tho he doesnt have a dog
that'll probably help too

Edit: oh yea, and we have 3 motion detectors. it even detects small movements like cats

Wow, how much did a system like that cost??

[mickz]

You can also use one of the P buttons on your keypad if this situation would arise and assuming your installer has enabled this feature. This will automatically sound the siren (attempting to scare the thief away) and if your system is monitored the station will dispatch the authorities.

If you have the older DSC Keypad it's the two buttons on the bottom right you have to hold together for 3 seconds
https://www.addison-electronique.com/catalog/images/produits/section-e/051055.jpg

If you have the newer style keypad it's got it's own button on the bottom left
http://www.alarmsystemstore.com/v/vspfiles/photos/DSC%20PK5500-2T.jpg

If it's an Ademco system you have there should be a dedicated button labeled "Police"
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/311YNCR2ATL.jpg

[godwin]

Under $1000?

A PVR cost about $400 (you need a harddrive to store images.)
Each camera is about $60 bucks..

The rest you just have to route / wire everything.

Of course you want to still hide things discretely so they won't have time to steal the system;)

Wow, how much did a system like that cost??

[aNGAIhilate]

Lol. My house got broken into a couple years ago. We harsh fortified it since then. Bars on the windows, bars across the doors, and sensor activated lights around my house. Havent had any incidents since.

[yangwenli]

paintball gun plus dog

[Zyzz]

most dogs are pretty useless

you just throw some food at them and they will stay still

[dachinesedude]

Well obviously get some aggressive dogs, like german sheperds, pitbulls, dobermans, etc, you know, the mean suckers, oh and get two or three of them

[djm]

what area is this

[k20a]

Oh that's easy, get some bear mace.

[Razor Ramon HG]

Well obviously get some aggressive dogs, like german sheperds, pitbulls, dobermans, etc, you know, the mean suckers, oh and get two or three of them

2x for German Shepherds. Those bitches are badass scary.

[Meowjin]

it's the 100 grand cars in the driveway

[Vansterdam]

yea man get dogs, you should also get a 10 foot electric fence as well as some landmines

[joolee]

that's why i love my dog, he barks like crazy whenever there's anything outside regardless if it's just a cat or whatnot.

i remember when my whole family went on vacation and i was the only one home (most of the time i'm out) my neighbor spotted some random guy trying to break in through my front door and he scared him away. since my neighbor knows i'm the only one at home or i'm out lol.

and.. another time.. i was doing the dishes with the blinds wide open (i can see the whole backyard) some junkie looking guy walks into my backyard and heads down the flight of stairs towards my basement door trying to open it. i was scared since i was home alone, i immediately called the cops and i opened the window to yell at the guy. all he does is say he thought it was the new place he's renting, wtf?!

[tough]

paintball gun plus dog

+ 1

[R8]

this reminds me of when i was almost broken into at 5AM... except it wasnt really a break in... instead, it was a drunk/high-off-something 20-30yr old guy bashing our door and climbing over our fence and bashing our backdoor for over 45 minutes and yelling.... oh ya, did i say that i was 4:00 AM? freaked the hell out of my family and I....

[The_AK]

don't forget to keep a ball and a glove with your bat, because "it's not there for defense"

lol this is exactly what my uncle keeps in his car for those days when he wants to "play baseball"

[godwin]

That's just a stupid escalation.. especially paintball.. what if the intruder(s) have a gun?

Dog.. what if they are really cops? are you going get all weepy eye on TV and say officers killed your dog because they are out to get your dog?

Chances are intruders already cased your place of residence and probably a bit "off".. best is to be proactive, make your place less attractive to them in the first place.. than to arm yourself.

Not to mention, insurance don't cover you if you fight back.

paintball gun plus dog

[Hot Karl]

Lol. My house got broken into a couple years ago. We harsh fortified it since then. Bars on the windows, bars across the doors, and sensor activated lights around my house. Havent had any incidents since.

THIS.

i work in the alarm industry. cameras are great, we install pvr systems with all that internet access goodness for mostly business and the occasional house.

ya know what that does when a pook is breaking into your house? nothing. it records him and lets you watch. real b&e's generally take 2-3 minutes. it's amazing how quick someone can go through stuff. if you're lucky cops can arrive quickly but there's no guarantee. and the bottom line is you've already been violated.

i'd rather just prevent the fucker from getting in. now if vandalism was the problem then a video system is more useful. but solid pry proof doors and bars do way more to actually secure the house. and if there was a power outage or something, you're fuxored. a camera system can obviously work in conjunction with good security, but you're putting the cart before the horse.

it's like saying you should get the worlds' most pimp alarm system for your car but you haven't fixed that popped out driver side lock yet.

[impactX]

Start reinforcing your door frames and make sure that they are well-connected with the house structural frames (not just held on by 4 screws). Multiple dead-bolts also help as long as the dead-bolts are long enough to go into the structural frames. Door hinges are also important, make sure all the screws that connect the hinges to the door frame/structural frame are 3" in length at least. Failing to do these, your door will be kicked down quite easily.

Also, are your windows big enough for the robber to break and crawl through? Usually they prefer to kick down the door instead of breaking through the windows; but it's the next thing they will try if they fail to kick down your door.

[SkinnyPupp]

It's a shitty feeling, isn't it? The same thing happened to me, I was heading out for lunch and on a hunch I turned around (because I saw a car parked in the neighbourhood that I have seen around the previous few days with a couple sketchy guys who looked like they were scoping the place out).

Just make sure to stay vigilant, and protect your property. These disgusting parasites will not go away without force.

[GLOW]

ya dogs can be stopped pretty easily, but they are a deterant b/c it's much easier to break into a house without a dog. but any dogs that are like hunters such as german shepards are good. they are smarter than some other dogs out there too.

i got broken into twice the same way. after that we put bars up. it's ugly b/c it looks like a prison, but keeps the trash out

[hotjoint]

damn

[quasi]

My parents have the most useless anoying dogs ever but they work as a good deterrent. They bark non stop when they hear anything and one of them jumps at the door ramming himself into it. You cannot see them from outside so if you didn't know what was behind the door you would expect a German Shepard or a Doberman when in reality it's a couple of these retards.

Someone actually backed a van up to there garage one day when my mom was home and we're totally looking to break in, back the van into the garage and load up. The retarded dogs sacred them away.

My dog would help the crooks load up the truck and then leave with them. I want to Cane Corso but my wife won't let me until I provide her with another kid. Not sure I'm every going to get one if she won't budge on this requirement. :)

http://www.info-on-dogs.com/images/Keeshond-b.jpg

[3seriesBeeM]

ya its a shitty feeling when this happens my house got robbed a couple times before so we installed bars on the window reinforced the doors put motion sensors everwhere with out alarm and we put a 2x4 across the door oni the basement lets see some scum try and break down that door there more likely to break there shoulder.

[yangwenli]

That's just a stupid escalation.. especially paintball.. what if the intruder(s) have a gun?

Dog.. what if they are really cops? are you going get all weepy eye on TV and say officers killed your dog because they are out to get your dog?

Chances are intruders already cased your place of residence and probably a bit "off".. best is to be proactive, make your place less attractive to them in the first place.. than to arm yourself.

Not to mention, insurance don't cover you if you fight back.

What do you mean "less attractive", not having tv or computers or not putting anything in the house? How they pick a place to rob is much different compare to the old days now. They just pick ramdomly out of desperation, it is all about your luck.


if you have no experience you wont understand. Some fucks tried to invaded my house twice and i was helpless without any sort of weapon. I dont care what it take to protect my family, even with my life. Paintball is last line of defences, I would splash them with boiling water if I have to.

My ex-gf house has almost zero house protection, crappy locks, no alarm, no window frames, metal bars, mostly only girls home, but they have a huge German shepherd on the balcony, barks all the time, emphasizing its present. And they never got broken into or have anyone got near them. Dog is just like an alarm or a club for a house, fucks will only go for the easier target not the harder target. The point is NO BODY WILL TRY TO FUCK WITH DOGS. Remember I have all that protection my ex doesnt have, except dog but we got cops visited four times in all these years. If dog died it dies, its just an animal, compare to lives of your family.

[Nightwalker]

I have a 110lb rotty and she's the biggest pushover lapdog wannabe but her bark is fierce. I've had her on the deck and friends have come over and been scared off because she was there on the railing barking at them. They called me, I didn't even know they were in the driveway. Any stranger that comes that she doesn't know calls or leaves when she'd on the deck as well. (the deck wraps around most of the house and includes the front door)

Completely harmless though, my best friend came over once and he had a toque on so she didn't recognize him and was on the driveway barking. He lifted his coat over his head and ran at her, and she freaked and ran away from him hahahaha

[MegaMx]

THIS.

i work in the alarm industry. cameras are great, we install pvr systems with all that internet access goodness for mostly business and the occasional house.

ya know what that does when a pook is breaking into your house? nothing. it records him and lets you watch. real b&e's generally take 2-3 minutes. it's amazing how quick someone can go through stuff. if you're lucky cops can arrive quickly but there's no guarantee. and the bottom line is you've already been violated.

i'd rather just prevent the fucker from getting in. now if vandalism was the problem then a video system is more useful. but solid pry proof doors and bars do way more to actually secure the house. and if there was a power outage or something, you're fuxored. a camera system can obviously work in conjunction with good security, but you're putting the cart before the horse.

it's like saying you should get the worlds' most pimp alarm system for your car but you haven't fixed that popped out driver side lock yet.

The reason I like the camera system is i can see if he came in a car, came with others, where he came from, which area he ran to, etc.. rather than identification purposes since he was wearing a full mask.

Plus if they do grab stuff out of my house such as a tv or whatever, they would have to get in a car or run down the street with it.

[Shun Izaki]

Actually speak of weirdness, i saw a buncha kids in northfaces running down the back alley near shuya80's (and my) place in N.BBY.Thought it might have been a home invasion, but meh, we lock our doors, and haven't had a huge issue since.Bear mace might be a good idea, but you never know how that kinda stuff works to your disadvantage

[mickz]

What do you mean "less attractive", not having tv or computers or not putting anything in the house? How they pick a place to rob is much different compare to the old days now. They just pick ramdomly out of desperation, it is all about your luck.


if you have no experience you wont understand. Some fucks tried to invaded my house twice and i was helpless without any sort of weapon. I dont care what it take to protect my family, even with my life. Paintball is last line of defences, I would splash them with boiling water if I have to.

My ex-gf house has almost zero house protection, crappy locks, no alarm, no window frames, metal bars, mostly only girls home, but they have a huge German shepherd on the balcony, barks all the time, emphasizing its present. And they never got broken into or have anyone got near them. Dog is just like an alarm or a club for a house, fucks will only go for the easier target not the harder target. The point is NO BODY WILL TRY TO FUCK WITH DOGS. Remember I have all that protection my ex doesnt have, except dog but we got cops visited four times in all these years. If dog died it dies, its just an animal, compare to lives of your family.

Not sure if godwin's meaning of "less attractive" is the same as mine. If your house has window bars, a dog, alarm system w/ window decals and other deterrents while your neighbor's house doesn't, unless this is a targeted break and enter, guess who's house they're most likely to break into? The easier one of course.

Picture two houses side by side with bikes that aren't locked up sitting in front of it. One house has a fence and the other doesn't. It's more likely the bike in front of the house with no fence is going to get stolen.

[!Tigger]

get a beware of dog sign...rofl

[Armind]

Close combat: Baseball bat
Guard: Pitbull
Range combat: Paintball gun with frozen ammunition

:D

[Euro7r]

Should add more locks to the doors around the house. Stash some weapons of mass destructive for protection.

[MegaMx]

I got a quote today for bulletproof (shatter proof) windows and patio doors that I'm most likely going to install. Marginally more than glass (which I was going to replace anyways) but this way I can rest assured that they can't get in the house except going through the door which is already pry proof.

[Shun Izaki]

that's scary as hell, i always remember living in good neighbourhoods and never having a problem till one day in RMD our house got broken into... couldn't sleep well that night.

[godwin]

Less attractive to the thief = have updated windows / door, clean up the yard with no place to hide etc. BIG lights.

What do you mean "less attractive", not having tv or computers or not putting anything in the house? How they pick a place to rob is much different compare to the old days now. They just pick ramdomly out of desperation, it is all about your luck.

[underscore]

1) clean up the yard
2) get someone to look at all your door and windows, they got into our sliding glass door because the screws holding the metal tab that gets hooked onto weren't all the way at the ends, so they could get a bar in there and yank it open
3) get an alarm, but get stickers from a different alarm company (get a friend with a different system to call and ask for more stickers as the old ones are peeling or w/e) as some thieves know how disable certain alarms and actually specifically target those houses
4) wall safe behind something in the closet

and you should be good to go.

[mickz]

1) clean up the yard
2) get someone to look at all your door and windows, they got into our sliding glass door because the screws holding the metal tab that gets hooked onto weren't all the way at the ends, so they could get a bar in there and yank it open
3) get an alarm, but get stickers from a different alarm company (get a friend with a different system to call and ask for more stickers as the old ones are peeling or w/e) as some thieves know how disable certain alarms and actually specifically target those houses
4) wall safe behind something in the closet

and you should be good to go.

What's your reasoning behind getting an alarm system and decals from a different company?

[MegaMx]

What's your reasoning behind getting an alarm system and decals from a different company?

I think that applies more to cars than home alarms. A home alarm is the same throughout plus there are only a handful of products used by all alarm companies.

[godwin]

There are only 4-5 alarm manufacturers in the US (Tyco, Honeywell or 2 of them).. different alarm companies just have different monitoring numbers..

It is better to reinforce your phone line to out of the house (a lot of people just have a wire hang out).. or have wireless alarm system.

What's your reasoning behind getting an alarm system and decals from a different company?

[mickz]

I think that applies more to cars than home alarms. A home alarm is the same throughout plus there are only a handful of products used by all alarm companies.

That's what I'm trying to get at. DSC and Ademco dominate the residential market but you may run into the occasional Silent Knight, Paradox or FBI panel.

It doesn't matter which alarm company you get to do your install, it's likely going to be the same products because everybody gets their parts from the same source. Unless the installer is totally incompetent and does something stupid like mounting the siren at the same location as the panel, it will be equally difficult to compromise an alarm system regardless of what alarm decal you display on your windows.

As someone in the industry it's a big slap in the face to have your install covered up by someone else's name and decal. Also I wouldn't be willing to simply give away decals. If a customer wants new decals I will apply it on their windows for them. The last thing a small company wants is for someone to grab a hold of their decals and put it on the windows of a grow-op. You don't want the VPD to associate your company with protecting this type of activity.

There are only 4-5 alarm manufacturers in the US (Tyco, Honeywell or 2 of them).. different alarm companies just have different monitoring numbers..

It is better to reinforce your phone line to out of the house (a lot of people just have a wire hang out).. or have wireless alarm system.

Wireless systems are too unreliable. They're for the lazy installers and big companies that do a quick install and then get the hell out of there as soon as you sign your monitoring contract (ex. ADT) If you're worried about getting your phone line cut you can go for a cell backup.

[godwin]

The other tip is to socialize with your neighbours.. I think that's more important and often neglected part of home security.

[BabyblooLexus]

how did it get robbed twice? did your mom have any alarm at all? was it robbed when the alarm was off or when somebody was at home?


yep we've always had the alarm system, rarely used it tho. my bro, bf, n i were home the first time it happend, my bf and i went outta a room that was downstairs facing the backyard for about 15 20 mins and we went back and my bfs wallet was gone, his keys and cellphone were not taken. that was the only thing taken that time.

second time mom bro n i were home and they climbed upstairs using a chair we had in our backyard, got into the master bedroom and took my moms shit. brutal.. they took 3k, credit cards ids and a chanel wallet... :mad:
the weather was warm both times so we had our windows open. (btw, statistics show that more b&e's and robberies occure during warm weather)
craziest shit was that i was in the next room.. i just thot the weird noises i herd from moms room was HER so i didnt bother to check... scary shitt im jsut glad i didnt encounter the robber... O.o we're pretty sure we were observed until no one was in the targeted rooms.. we suspect our backyard neighbour of doin it.. both times... its soooooo scary knowing that a stranger was in the house with us without us knowing...

make sure u call the cops everytime something liek this happens, even if nothing was taken or if its not 'serious'. its a bit of a hassle but its always good to have this shit on file.

so yess dont leave anything in the yard that wud encourage a break in.. like chairs or ladders.. open windows etc etc.

and im always really carefull of possible cars following me when i go home from anywhere. i always loop around my neighborhood if i notice a suspicious car.

i think of all the security features we own, i say the motion sensor that makes a loud annoying noise is the best. sudden noises usually startles them.

good luck wit everything =)

[BabyblooLexus]

Wow, how much did a system like that cost??

hmm... i think it was around 4500 ~ 5000 O.o

[yangwenli]

Less attractive to the thief = have updated windows / door, clean up the yard with no place to hide etc. BIG lights.

good point, sadly dont apply on sicko home invaders these days. I guess they figured out storming in is much easier compare to sneaking in.

[godwin]

You get exclusively home invaders? You should let us know where you live, so we don't buy a property in your neighborhood..

Honestly this is Vancouver, crime is not that bad.. if you have "sicko home invaders" all of the time. You must have pissed off some really bad people no castle will save you from it.. you mind as well move to middle of nowhere so at least no neighbors will be caught in the crossfire.

good point, sadly dont apply on sicko home invaders these days. I guess they figured out storming in is much easier compare to sneaking in.

[GLOW]

Bear mace might be a good idea, but you never know how that kinda stuff works to your disadvantage

someone sprayed that in the food court of the sinclaire center last month. dude, it is STRONG, cleared out the entire foodcourt for the afternoon. probably knock yourself out too :p

[Hheidi]

So this morning, I dropped my gf off at the skytrain, returned home. I was sitting on the couch reading up on some stuff with the TV on and I notice a black blob on my patio, I stood up and had a look and 6 feet from me on the other side of the window is a guy waring all black with a bandana on his face covering everything up to his eyes. We make eye contact and he just casually turned around. I quickly turned the alarm on so if anybody opens anything the alarm goes off. I called up 911 and within 10 minutes at least 5 cruisers were patrolling the area and came to talk to me.

Now I'm freaking out and have no idea if I was targeted or if it was random since none of my neighbors noticed anything and all of them were at home (I know almost all the neighbors around me).

I have a good alarm in my home which wasn't on since I was at home but I'll start using the stay feature more often. Regarding preventing and making it safer I'm considering two more options:

1) adding some cameras so at least i can see what direction he came from, car or no car, random or not random
2) dog, i wanted a dog for a long time but this gets me a better excuse since i heard a lot of criminals are not fond of barking dogs

Any ideas?

cameras dont work unless you have one that records everything every 2 weeks and you re-record again

dogs are better =) they're cuter too haha

[underscore]

That's what I'm trying to get at. DSC and Ademco dominate the residential market but you may run into the occasional Silent Knight, Paradox or FBI panel.

It doesn't matter which alarm company you get to do your install, it's likely going to be the same products because everybody gets their parts from the same source. Unless the installer is totally incompetent and does something stupid like mounting the siren at the same location as the panel, it will be equally difficult to compromise an alarm system regardless of what alarm decal you display on your windows.

As someone in the industry it's a big slap in the face to have your install covered up by someone else's name and decal. Also I wouldn't be willing to simply give away decals. If a customer wants new decals I will apply it on their windows for them. The last thing a small company wants is for someone to grab a hold of their decals and put it on the windows of a grow-op. You don't want the VPD to associate your company with protecting this type of activity.



Wireless systems are too unreliable. They're for the lazy installers and big companies that do a quick install and then get the hell out of there as soon as you sign your monitoring contract (ex. ADT) If you're worried about getting your phone line cut you can go for a cell backup.

It's just a tip I was told as while they may use some of the same products the install styles of the companies are different.

I don't see it as a slap in the face, I see it as another preventative measure. I should hope your company has better advertising then just those little stickers on peoples windows.

Also we got the decals right when we signed up, before the alarm was even installed. They also told us if we needed more to just call and we could pick some up/get them mailed to us.

[AsBannedAsItGets]

paintball gun plus dog

would a paintball gun ward off a burgler? never been hit by a paintball gun so naturally i'm curious if it hurts that much

[Gtrr33]

i have two dogo argentinos.....

meet jackks....other one is sleeping
http://bundaberg.qld.gov.au/files/images/health-regulatory/dogo-argentino-01.jpg

come and get some!

[Euro7r]

Watch Some "Home Alone" movies. Set up some booby traps.

[!Yaminashi]

Watch Some "Home Alone" movies. Set up some booby traps.

Ice on stairs & hot door handle + blow torch > Camera & alarm

[ch0pstix]

i highley recommend a dog
any big breeds can sense ANY umfamiliar people around
like my dog, (Border collie mix) barks when someone is around 4 houses away

[Gtrr33]

i highley recommend a dog
any big breeds can sense ANY umfamiliar people around
like my dog, (Border collie mix) barks when someone is around 4 houses away

i agree when bchydro, mail person or those "jahovas" comes around my dogs go ape shit. and my dogs gives out the shoutest deepest bark.

[mickz]

It's just a tip I was told as while they may use some of the same products the install styles of the companies are different.

I don't see it as a slap in the face, I see it as another preventative measure. I should hope your company has better advertising then just those little stickers on peoples windows.

Also we got the decals right when we signed up, before the alarm was even installed. They also told us if we needed more to just call and we could pick some up/get them mailed to us.

Unless the person installing your security system is a resident of the home or is an employee of a business installing on their commercial setting, he/she will need to be licensed WITH A TQ in order to install an alarm system by him/herself or with the help or another licensed technician (not necessarily with a TQ.) It is highly unlikely someone who has put in the hours and experience before writing their TQ exam can do a poor install where it is more likely to be compromised compared to Company B.

It is physically impossible to tamper with a properly installed alarm contact while the window or door is closed. What separates an experienced and inexperienced technician (or company for that matter) is in the neatness of their work. Some guys in the industry take short cuts like not soldering or having really messy wiring work inside the main panel. Keep in mind not every installation will be the same. Every house is built differently and therefore each alarm system will be installed differently. So I really don't see how your theory of having Company A do the installation but display Company B's decals are logical as a preventative measure.

As for the alarm decals they are not for advertising purposes, they are strictly for deterrence. Very few alarm companies advertise except for the bigger companies that don't tend to do complete installs and are just after your monitoring revenue (ex. ADT) Alarm companies get their business and reputation through word of mouth.

[underscore]

I'm not saying that the install will be WORSE from A to B, I'm just saying the way they order their techs to install things may be different.

tampering doesn't really need to be done from the outside now does it? as long as they get in and have everything disabled before the timer sets the alarm off they're good to go. I've seen several interviews of repeat burglars where they say they actually targetted certain houses because they knew that the alarm that home was equipped with was one they could disable before it went off.

if the stickers arent any kind of advertising then who cares which ones (if any) you have on your house. of course simply swapping the stickers isn't the best deterrent but every little bit helps.

[MegaMx]

Problem solved. I just bought one of these guys and he's on duty guarding my house now

http://cdn-www.dailypuppy.com/media/dogs/anonymous/sugar_border_collie_puppy_03.jpg

[murd0c]

what a cute little guy congrats

[yamahar6]

i have two dogo argentinos.....

meet jackks....other one is sleeping
http://bundaberg.qld.gov.au/files/images/health-regulatory/dogo-argentino-01.jpg

come and get some!

thats a sweet looking dog

[jpoon]

^^loving the puppy mega.
One thing you should also do is if you have windows in your backyard that are low to the ground..put some metal bars on them. And if you want, you could put them on all the windows you think people would break to gain entry from but that would be a little extreme. It's what we did after my house was broken into.

[ch0pstix]

i have two dogo argentinos.....

meet jackks....other one is sleeping
http://bundaberg.qld.gov.au/files/images/health-regulatory/dogo-argentino-01.jpg

come and get some!

aren't those vicious?

[HonestTea]

Problem solved. I just bought one of these guys and he's on duty guarding my house now

http://cdn-www.dailypuppy.com/media/dogs/anonymous/sugar_border_collie_puppy_03.jpg

wow what a cute puppy!! :thumbsup:

[El Bastardo]

This is what happens when we give these people free places to shoot up. They break into your houses.

They should be dying of AIDS in the street where they belong.

[buddy]

http://bpcustomshop.com/store/images/GLOCK26.jpg

[MegaMx]

^^loving the puppy mega.
One thing you should also do is if you have windows in your backyard that are low to the ground..put some metal bars on them. And if you want, you could put them on all the windows you think people would break to gain entry from but that would be a little extreme. It's what we did after my house was broken into.
I don't like that look especially in this neighborhood I would be the only one. This is supposed to be a very very safe neighborhood. Neighbors can't remember the last time there was a incident in the last 10 years.

Plus even the cops were surprised and 10 showed up within minutes.

What I did though is put a two way lock on the gate doors (no key, no entry or exit). Guard puppy that may or may not pee on the thief if he tries to break in. Two cameras with night vision in the back (they glow red when they detect something and it's actually a bit creepy unless you know it's a camera). Two hidden cameras in front of the house to look for traffic. We're replacing the fence (we were going to do this anyways but the new one is a bit higher with the mesh at the top). And lastly, my favorite part, is I'm adding bullet-proof glass to all windows and patios on the main floor. I was going to replace the windows anyways but for a extra $50 per window, they gave me a option of making them bullet proof :) All windows can be opened from the inside or using an axe (in case of fire) and I've got a LOT of windows and patio doors so safety has already been addressed. The windows in front of the house will remain regular windows just in case since the thief would have to be very ballsy to try going through the front windows.

[MegaMx]

All that's left are spikes and nails near the fence so if anyone jumps over it they get 2" of nails up their feet :) (yes I'm kidding but it'd be nice, wouldn't it ?)

[hotjoint]

cute puppy, what kinda dog is that?

[MegaMx]

cute puppy, what kinda dog is that?

border collie

[MelonBoy]

Are your windows barred up?
I think thats the cheapest way to keep thiefs away.. Unless they picking to get you.. barring your windows will make them go away. :) that and its cheaper then getting a whole new alarm and what not.

Btw good idea with the dog =p, my dogs goes nuts and starts barking like crazy when someone cuts/creeps by my house.

[distanc3]

border collie

i dont think border collie are much of a guard dog, plus theyre super energetic, you might have a noise problem in the long run =P

i got a german shepard, neighborhood use to be crappy but after the good dog, never heard of a car or house broken into for a good 5 years

[ChaKo]

border collie
did you buy it as a puppy? any pictures yet?

[yamahar6]

I don't like that look especially in this neighborhood I would be the only one. This is supposed to be a very very safe neighborhood. Neighbors can't remember the last time there was a incident in the last 10 years.

Plus even the cops were surprised and 10 showed up within minutes.

What I did though is put a two way lock on the gate doors (no key, no entry or exit). Guard puppy that may or may not pee on the thief if he tries to break in. Two cameras with night vision in the back (they glow red when they detect something and it's actually a bit creepy unless you know it's a camera). Two hidden cameras in front of the house to look for traffic. We're replacing the fence (we were going to do this anyways but the new one is a bit higher with the mesh at the top). And lastly, my favorite part, is I'm adding bullet-proof glass to all windows and patios on the main floor. I was going to replace the windows anyways but for a extra $50 per window, they gave me a option of making them bullet proof :) All windows can be opened from the inside or using an axe (in case of fire) and I've got a LOT of windows and patio doors so safety has already been addressed. The windows in front of the house will remain regular windows just in case since the thief would have to be very ballsy to try going through the front windows.

bulletproof? lol why not just get security film? how much are they charging you each window?