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: Chinese bidder "won't pay" for looted China bronzes

asian_XL
03-01-2009, 07:41 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/artsNews/idUSTRE5210FM20090302

BWAHAHAHA...WTF


http://img1.cache.netease.com/cnews/2009/3/2/200903021221053eb0c.jpg
wouwou
03-01-2009, 07:51 PM
lol owned. Good luck finding a way to sue them in China
orange7
03-01-2009, 08:21 PM
no dimes
Gnomes
03-01-2009, 08:37 PM
If the looters would work a deal with the police officials, the bidders' body parts will be up in auction.
pandalove
03-01-2009, 08:38 PM
lol good for them
KingDeeCee
03-01-2009, 08:41 PM
Are these bronzes the same ones that made China pissed off a few weeks back?
cococly
03-01-2009, 08:41 PM
Personally, I think they did a good job there.
asian_XL
03-01-2009, 08:44 PM
Are these bronzes the same ones that made China pissed off a few weeks back?

yup, in that french auction
impactX
03-01-2009, 08:52 PM
Pointless unless he already smuggled the bronze heads back to China.
Eastwood
03-01-2009, 09:28 PM
Uhh so did he bring the relics back to China? Did I miss that part in the story?
AVS_Racing
03-01-2009, 09:35 PM
hm.... i highly doubt they would deliver the packages with out gettin paid first
EuroTRASH
03-01-2009, 10:14 PM
so
he didn't pay
he didn't get the stuff.....................so?

should call up 2nd highest bidder offer it to him at the price he offered
Synaptik
03-01-2009, 10:18 PM
lol, way to own the auction ppl.

this guy is a hero now too...good luck trying to serve him a suit in china
MarkyMark
03-01-2009, 11:02 PM
Pretty dumb story unless he actually has the goods...otherwise its just gonna go to the next bidder and china still has shit all.
pandalove
03-01-2009, 11:05 PM
its mainland china ppl ... what u expect .. lol
Vansterdam
03-01-2009, 11:52 PM
lol pwned good for him
q0192837465
03-02-2009, 12:00 PM
he's prolly a national hero by now
BoneThug
03-02-2009, 12:03 PM
next second bidder is probably chinease too. so its the 3rd.
tool001
03-02-2009, 12:20 PM
next time they have the auction for the artifacts, u know it will go for higher as its been contested by CHINA, they just have to barr bids coming in from CHINA,,
StylinRed
03-02-2009, 03:04 PM
it was expected china would grab some guy to be their bidder... whats ridiculous is he chose not to pay.... he would have been more of a "hero" if he bought em and donated them to China


its like how Ghandis famed belongings are going up on the Auction block this month, India wants them but says they're going to bid on them or find someone to bid for them... granted Ghandi's belongings isn't property of Indias but it could argued to be
EuroTRASH
03-02-2009, 05:58 PM
I don't really see why everyone is praising him

If I'm the winning bidder on this Reventon

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Lamborghini-Reventon-Lamborghini-Reventon-1-of-20_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q 7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1308Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a 1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem2 60370100190QQitemZ260370100190QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTru cks

then I don't pay for it, and don't take delivery of it, do I have baller status? Hell no. Have I even really done anything at all? Nope.
cococly
03-02-2009, 06:42 PM
I don't really see why everyone is praising him

If I'm the winning bidder on this Reventon



then I don't pay for it, and don't take delivery of it, do I have baller status? Hell no. Have I even really done anything at all? Nope.

By not paying the bid, it creats a financial lost to the french auctioneer, since they have to redo all the paperworks and stuff again.IF by any chance that the 2nd highest bidder already lost interests at the items, both items might not be sold after all.
Shun Izaki
03-02-2009, 06:42 PM
I don't really see why everyone is praising him

If I'm the winning bidder on this Reventon

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Lamborghini-Reventon-Lamborghini-Reventon-1-of-20_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q 7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1308Q7c301Q3a1Q7c293Q3a 1Q7c294Q3a50QQ_trksidZp3286Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem2 60370100190QQitemZ260370100190QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTru cks

then I don't pay for it, and don't take delivery of it, do I have baller status? Hell no. Have I even really done anything at all? Nope.

I'm pretty damn confused myself as to why it is... But who sells a reventon on ebay anyhow? :P
jakolantern
03-02-2009, 08:03 PM
By not paying the bid, it creats a financial lost to the french auctioneer, since they have to redo all the paperworks and stuff again.IF by any chance that the 2nd highest bidder already lost interests at the items, both items might not be sold after all.

I totally agree with cococly. This just shows how ridiculous, ignorant, and selfish people can be sometimes.

And screwing up an auction is not the appropriate way of bringing a political or nationalistic message.

The fact that these items were looted many years ago does not make what this person did correct.

He's not a national hero and people cheering him on should be ashamed.
asian_XL
03-02-2009, 08:25 PM
^ I am sure they have humiliated all the French people

reading some of the chinese forums and news group...it's full of "OWNED!!!" replies.

so no, I think the chinese think he's a national hero or something
!Tigger
03-02-2009, 08:44 PM
lol hes probably gonna keep them
DDauge
03-02-2009, 09:03 PM
the reason that he wont pay is because the artifacts are robbed from China by the french two hundred years ago...

would you pay money to robbers to buy back what belongs to you?
El Bastardo
03-02-2009, 09:18 PM
Well, he can enjoy his 15 minutes of fame. The auction is out, what.. 7, 8 thousand Euro? Tops? I think they'll be able to safely recoup that money.

He still doesn't have them. The rest of the world looks on him like some sort of deadbeat and his "heroism" will be eventually forgotten to the Chinese people.
impactX
03-02-2009, 09:25 PM
the reason that he wont pay is because the artifacts are robbed from the Manchus from the Qing Dynasty by the french two hundred years ago...

would you pay money to robbers to buy back what belongs to someone else?

Fixed.

Part of why China can't get it back through legal methods.
ZhangFei
03-02-2009, 09:26 PM
LMAO did you guys hear the news? The guy who is in charge of the bronze statues says he would return the bronze heads to China if China would allow the Dalai Lama back into Tibet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aR5x_cVDOmQ
DDauge
03-03-2009, 07:42 AM
Fixed.

Part of why China can't get it back through legal methods.


that doesnt' matter.. Qing dynasty is one dynasty of China so it belongs to China..

If China goes to England in the past and stole robbed something from Beckham palace, can you say because the queen back then is dead so you don't have to return the goods to england?
wouwou
03-03-2009, 07:50 AM
Well, he can enjoy his 15 minutes of fame. The auction is out, what.. 7, 8 thousand Euro? Tops? I think they'll be able to safely recoup that money.

He still doesn't have them. The rest of the world looks on him like some sort of deadbeat and his "heroism" will be eventually forgotten to the Chinese people.

well that is one hell of an advertisement for his company.
Carl Johnson
03-03-2009, 01:13 PM
China was so fucking weak back then they got invaded by a small country called Japan and almost lost the war. That's what happen when you are the sick man of Asia and try to isolate yourself thinking China is the center of the Universe. So stop crying over 2 bronze POS that was "stolen" 200 years ago.

The Chinese did more damages (destroying relics) to themselves in culture revolution than anything you can imagine.
wouwou
03-03-2009, 01:16 PM
China was so fucking weak back then they got invaded by a small country called Japan and almost lost the war. That's what happen when you are the sick man of Asia and try to isolate yourself thinking China is the center of the Universe. So stop crying over 2 bronze POS that was "stolen" 200 years ago.

The Chinese did more damages (destroying relics) to themselves in culture revolution than anything you can imagine.

Stop being igronant and start reading books, seriously

good for the soul you know
Carl Johnson
03-03-2009, 03:06 PM
I am only stating my opinion and facts. Maybe you can enlighten me on the subject rather than just telling me to some "some books".
wouwou
03-03-2009, 03:33 PM
I am only stating my opinion and facts. Maybe you can enlighten me on the subject rather than just telling me to some "some books".

you basically just said the below situation is normal and ok:

Your grandfather is a crack addict, and his neighbour broke into his house and rob him off his 65 GTO 40 years ago because he couldnt give up a fight.

40 years later, that neighbour is auctioning the GTO off for 120,000 and claim it as legal. You as the grandson should not protest because your grandpa was weak and delusional.

How does that make sense in your world?

For reading reference, I think anything remotely related to logic or moral will do for now.
impactX
03-03-2009, 05:26 PM
that doesnt' matter.. Qing dynasty is one dynasty of China so it belongs to China..

If China goes to England in the past and stole robbed something from Beckham palace, can you say because the queen back then is dead so you don't have to return the goods to england?


Better example: if the Ming Dynasty went to the Holy Roman Empire to rob something, should present day China return the items to Germany/Austria?
StylinRed
03-03-2009, 06:49 PM
LMAO did you guys hear the news? The guy who is in charge of the bronze statues says he would return the bronze heads to China if China would allow the Dalai Lama back into Tibet.


He said that originally


makes no sense why chinas acting like a bitch though, they buy back artifacts from auctions in HK and Taiwan, Etc all the time





well that is one hell of an advertisement for his company.

its state owned.. well there are "elite high ranking members of the board" that they dont list which is said to be the govt.