[RenoMan]

I heard that it's bad for the gears to just let your hand rest on the shifter while driving, is that true?

[Peturbo]

I know resting your foot on clutch pedal will wear your clutch out faster but not sure about hand on shifter.

[Chicken Balls]

but would you not have to engage the stick shift for it to have any effect? if its not engaged i don't see why it would be bad.

[Leopold Stotch]

i normally keep my hands between my legs. or the passengers.

just makes more sense than keeping it on my shifter


although i would imagine there would be adverse affects if you were to put enough pressure on the shifter.

keep your hands on the wheel, or between some legs.

[bikerx]

^ROFLS

Keep your hands on the wheel :) easier to avoid Retarded drivers.

[EuroTRASH]

Don't put tension on it if you do keep your hand on it. You can wear out the shift forks.

[TOPEC]

syncros wear faster as ur putting stress onto them.

[//RacingSpirit>>]

i normally keep my hands between my legs. or the passengers.
...
keep your hands on the wheel, or between some legs.

I'd feel scared if I sat in the passenger's seat..... Seeing some dude put his hand between his legs or between my legs???? :gay:

[JqC]

Fuckin gangsta lean

Left hand over top of steering wheel
Right hand with cell phone up to ear
Lean body towards middle, while constantly nodding head slowly

[daval]

Second this.

Is way safer to put two hands on the wheel anyway for emergency maneuvers.

syncros wear faster as ur putting stress onto them.

[B-DiZzLe]

Fuckin gangsta lean

Left hand over top of steering wheel
Right hand with cell phone up to ear
Lean body towards middle, while constantly nodding head slowly



U forgot
Recline your seat into "sleeping" position
and most important of all, Puckering up your lips

[godwin]

I thought that only applies to gearshifts that sits directly on top the gearbox?

syncros wear faster as ur putting stress onto them.

[!Tigger]

ROFL what happens if you know someone who drives an auto.. with the maunal boot/shifter swap...and they keep their hand on the shifter XD

yes i know someone who did that and shifted into d->1->2 or whatever

[threezero]

ROFL what happens if you know someone who drives an auto.. with the maunal boot/shifter swap...and they keep their hand on the shifter XD

yes i know someone who did that and shifted into d->1->2 or whatever


i knows tons of auto drivers that keep their hand on the shifter including myself, however I have never seen anybody go d->1->2 unless they got those fake manual transmission.

[Fafine]

i just keep the shifting hand on my lap

question anyone keep their foot on the dead pedal- those who drive standard. i find that i don't put my whole foot on the dead pedal only like the tips of my toes then when i clutch i just move the toes over like my right foot for the gas/brake

[k20a]

You're suppose to keep your hands on the steering wheel, or as soon as you can after each shift. lol

[Rich Sandor]

The reason why you are told to keep your hands off the shifter, is so that you keep your hands on the steering wheel so that you have more control over the vehicle. Race car drivers never touch the shifter unless they are actually shifting.

If you are sitting at a red light on Kingsway in rush hour traffic, there is nothing wrong with resting your hand on the shifter. You cannot do any mechanical harm to the gears unless you actually try to engage them without depressing the clutch and grind them.

You also do not wear out the clutch by resting your foot on the pedal, unless you actually are pushing down on the pedal. You are told not to "ride the clutch" because generally people put a little too much pressure on it accidentally and actually DO depress the clutch partially, and also if you get into an accident, you want to have your left foot bracing the dead pedal or floorboard, not the clutch or brake pedal.

[!LittleDragon]

I leave my arm on the center arm rest that runs all the way along the cabin in traffic. If I'm going a decent speed or if it's raining/slippery, it's both hands on the wheel.

[TOPEC]

I thought that only applies to gearshifts that sits directly on top the gearbox?

even on a cable shift, ur still pulling/pushing onto the cables which r connected to the shifter right? and what is connected to the other end of the cable?

[Leopold Stotch]

i just keep the shifting hand on my lap

question anyone keep their foot on the dead pedal- those who drive standard. i find that i don't put my whole foot on the dead pedal only like the tips of my toes then when i clutch i just move the toes over like my right foot for the gas/brake

whats wrong with the foot being on the dead pedal? isn't that where your left foot should be anyhow?

hovering over the clutch pedal is a bad habit

[godwin]

Wouldn't it depend on how much tension / articulation on the cable shift? I mean a hand on the shifter won't be too different than a bump on the road? Unless the driver have heavy hands? I always assume it requires quite a bit of force to engage the syncros.

Then again, I don't think I've owned a latitudinal laid out car.. so I won't know.

even on a cable shift, ur still pulling/pushing onto the cables which r connected to the shifter right? and what is connected to the other end of the cable?

[kookoobird88]

depends, some times i keep my hand on it but not with anyforce.
im really 50/50, lol i usually only hold there steering wheel with 2 or three fingers at the 6 o clock postion

[1990TSI]

keeping your hand on the shifter will also fail your drivers test.

it's a moot point really. who cares if it it hurts your transmission, you shouldn't do it anyways. you'll get more respect from girls for having both hands on the wheel unless you need to shift. and that's what most of you fuckers are worried about anyways.

[RabidRat]

I'm hoping someone can clarify on the shift fork / synchro thing with resting your hand on the shifter. I leave my hand on the shifter all the time when I'm daily driving. Different story on the track though, I keep both hands on the wheel unless I'm shifting.

[BabyblooLexus]

Fuckin gangsta lean

Left hand over top of steering wheel
Right hand with cell phone up to ear
Lean body towards middle, while constantly nodding head slowly

U forgot
Recline your seat into "sleeping" position
and most important of all, Puckering up your lips

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA@$%$#&#%q#@!!!!!!!!
perfect.

[Zyzz]

keeping hand on shifter for a manual looks noob

[TOPEC]

Wouldn't it depend on how much tension / articulation on the cable shift? I mean a hand on the shifter won't be too different than a bump on the road? Unless the driver have heavy hands? I always assume it requires quite a bit of force to engage the syncros.

Then again, I don't think I've owned a latitudinal laid out car.. so I won't know.

yea, u start out by just lightly resting, and then without knowing u'll rest on it harder and harder putting more and more force on the shifter.

[AhXian]

both hands on wheel except when shifting... learned from gt5....
but i usually keep my hand on the stick till at least 3rd gear....

[Blinky]

Both hands on the wheel, at all times, except when shifting. Jerking off while driving is not an allowable exception.

I'm hoping someone can clarify on the shift fork / synchro thing with resting your hand on the shifter. I leave my hand on the shifter all the time when I'm daily driving.

Ever tried to pop your car out of gear while it's moving and on-throttle (when there's tension in the drivetrain)? Doesn't feel too good mechanically does it? Put too much pressure on the shifter and you could be doing something similar. Having your hand on the shifter is a habit to break.



and also if you get into an accident, you want to have your left foot bracing the dead pedal or floorboard, not the clutch or brake pedal.

If you see it coming or think it's coming... both feet in! :D

you'll get more respect from girls for having both hands on the wheel unless you need to shift

Indeed. My GF got nervous when I was holding her hand while driving (shifting with my left). Downside to stick I guess... but a trade I can make.

[alex.w *//]

for highway i don't put my hand on the shifter driving m/t..and i always put my hand on the shifter on city

but i always rest my hand on my a/t shifter though lol

[underscore]

Don't put tension on it if you do keep your hand on it. You can wear out the shift forks.

truth.

I keep my hands at 10 and 4 when accelerating (for quicker shifts), 10 and 2 when cruising

[!Tigger]

i leave my foot above the clutch pedal until i pass 3rd gear.. so

[RabidRat]

Ever tried to pop your car out of gear while it's moving and on-throttle (when there's tension in the drivetrain)? Doesn't feel too good mechanically does it? Put too much pressure on the shifter and you could be doing something similar. Having your hand on the shifter is a habit to break.


I don't think I put enough pressure on the shifter that that's an issue, but I do have another thought. My shifter vibrates a lot - if my hand's keeping it from moving around freely like that, is that in itself putting undue pressure on the fork / synchros / whatever else?


Indeed. My GF got nervous when I was holding her hand while driving (shifting with my left). Downside to stick I guess... but a trade I can make.


Hahaha I've gotten pretty good at this. I don't mind shifting up and down every now and then under normal conditions. But it sucks when you're starting back up from a light, especially when you have short gearing and your left hand's just flying back and forth, so you end up looking like a tool. :lol

[orange7]

i normally keep my hands between my legs. or the passengers.

just makes more sense than keeping it on my shifter


although i would imagine there would be adverse affects if you were to put enough pressure on the shifter.

keep your hands on the wheel, or between some legs.


+1

[3seriesBeeM]

i rest my hand on the E-brakes than its easy to shift from there unless im on highway than its both hands on the wheel......although when my GF is in the car i have my hand in her lap

[B-DiZzLe]

honestly, city driving I have my hand on the shifter
highway, it's usually on my lap... just a habit, plus city driving involves a lot of shifting and i'm lazy to keep moving my hand from steering wheel back to shifter, it's not like i'm racing i'm just driving from point A to B...

[RenoMan]

Our Conclusion Is?

Yes, it is bad mechanically?

[SolidPenguin]

Well according to my cars instruction manual. It says when the car is in gear, do not rest your hand on the lever. Be because it puts unecessary pressure on the gears.

But when in neutral, yah i do it all the time. I think its right though cause when it IS in gear and you put even the slightest pressure on it you feel the grinding/vibrations

[Blinky]

I don't think I put enough pressure on the shifter that that's an issue, but I do have another thought. My shifter vibrates a lot - if my hand's keeping it from moving around freely like that, is that in itself putting undue pressure on the fork / synchros / whatever else?


Just Be A Man. Do Da Right Fing.

(IOW, get your hand off your knob and you won't have anything to worry about:p)

[Raid3n]

The reason why you are told to keep your hands off the shifter, is so that you keep your hands on the steering wheel so that you have more control over the vehicle. Race car drivers never touch the shifter unless they are actually shifting.

If you are sitting at a red light on Kingsway in rush hour traffic, there is nothing wrong with resting your hand on the shifter. You cannot do any mechanical harm to the gears unless you actually try to engage them without depressing the clutch and grind them.

You also do not wear out the clutch by resting your foot on the pedal, unless you actually are pushing down on the pedal. You are told not to "ride the clutch" because generally people put a little too much pressure on it accidentally and actually DO depress the clutch partially, and also if you get into an accident, you want to have your left foot bracing the dead pedal or floorboard, not the clutch or brake pedal.

like someone already said, if i'm doing an emergency stop, first i'll try hard breaking including downshifting, but if its beyond all hope, its both feet in.

[CanadaGoose]

You also do not wear out the clutch by resting your foot on the pedal, unless you actually are pushing down on the pedal. You are told not to "ride the clutch" because generally people put a little too much pressure on it accidentally and actually DO depress the clutch partially, and also if you get into an accident, you want to have your left foot bracing the dead pedal or floorboard, not the clutch or brake pedal.

You actually do needlessly wear out the clutch if you ride the pedal. Not neccesarily by slipping the discs, but there are other components that will prematurely wear if you do that.

And why would your left foot EVER be on the brake pedal if you're driving in city??? :confused: lol

[Peturbo]

I find myself only putting my hand on shifter while shifting and while waiting at a red light.

[J-Wangsta]

haha soo much animosity towards ppl who puts their hand on the shifter..."its noob" lol

[RenoMan]

well the i drive with my hands on the wheel and put my hand on the shifter when its in neutral. thats it

[snowball]

like someone already said, if i'm doing an emergency stop, first i'll try hard breaking including downshifting, but if its beyond all hope, its both feet in.

it wouldn't be an emergency stop if you had enough time to downshift while braking

[MikeyStyle]

I leave my arm on the center arm rest that runs all the way along the cabin in traffic. If I'm going a decent speed or if it's raining/slippery, it's both hands on the wheel.
i do the same thing too. i only touch the shifter when i need to shift gears.. if not i just rest my arm on the centre arm rest

[Raid3n]

it wouldn't be an emergency stop if you had enough time to downshift while braking

apparently you've never used heel-toe to downshift while braking.. i've used it numerous times where i've needed to stop fast.

and also, provided you give yourself the proper following distance you should have plenty of time.

[GordonTse]

usually rest my hand on the shifter during city driving, cuz i have short gears and shift at 3k rpm usually. highway i just rest on the center arm rest.

[Synaptik]

Fuckin gangsta lean

Left hand over top of steering wheel
Right hand with cell phone up to ear
Lean body towards middle, while constantly nodding head slowly

this is why i picked auto over manual ;)

[hauc1000]

lol

[snowball]

apparently you've never used heel-toe to downshift while braking.. i've used it numerous times where i've needed to stop fast.

and also, provided you give yourself the proper following distance you should have plenty of time.

guess it's a difference in definition, to me emergency stops are when a squirrel runs out in front of ur car and u have to stop within a few meters.

[SuperSlowSS]

apparently you've never used heel-toe to downshift while braking.. i've used it numerous times where i've needed to stop fast.

and also, provided you give yourself the proper following distance you should have plenty of time.

apparently you don't know the difference between emergency stop and slowing down.

[death_blossom]

You're suppose to keep your hands on the steering wheel, or as soon as you can after each shift. lol
:thumbsup:
I drive w/ my hands at the 9 and 3 positions all the time.

Our Conclusion Is?

Yes, it is bad mechanically?

yes, it is bad mechanically. don't rest your hand on top of the shifter.

[SpartanAir]

On the track at my PDC events every instructor told me to keep both hands on the wheel, and make smooth quick shifts like you're holding an egg. It takes no time at all to reach down for the shifter and clutch in if you need to.

Of course, when I'm on the street, I'll sometimes rest my hand on the shifter just for a change of feel.

[you]

apparently you've never used heel-toe to downshift while braking.. i've used it numerous times where i've needed to stop fast.

and also, provided you give yourself the proper following distance you should have plenty of time.

too much initial d for u
heel and toe does NOT help you stop faster

[RenoMan]

i smell fc already.

Even if you heel toe it only applies to down shifting at a safe distance with plenty of time. Heel toe does not apply to emergency stop. :haha::haha:

[!Aznboi128]

i rest my fingers on the paddle shifters... is that bad :P

[CivicTypeRice]

Fuckin gangsta lean

Left hand over top of steering wheel
Right hand with cell phone up to ear
Lean body towards middle, while constantly nodding head slowly
you forgot the crotch grab

[Poonpee]

ROFL what happens if you know someone who drives an auto.. with the maunal boot/shifter swap...and they keep their hand on the shifter XD

yes i know someone who did that and shifted into d->1->2 or whatever

lol a friend of mine with an auto, shakes the shifter left and right for every stop !! :haha:

[Leopold Stotch]

lol a friend of mine with an auto, shakes the shifter left and right for every stop !! :haha:

do manual drivers shake the shifter a lot?

i only do it once when i start it. and then that's it. for the most part i always know what gear i'm in.

[Poonpee]

well i dont shake it but i would check it by moving it all the way left or right to see if im in N

[moomooCow]

^ Don't lie to me theres no gears on the MTR. =P

hahahahh :rofl:

[Poonpee]

^ Don't lie to me theres no gears on the MTR. =P

hahahahh :rofl:

lol now i do it with the mtr handle thing its upside down tho haha
btw did u get the car fixed ?