Nissan claims GT-R will beat Ferrari Enzo [Archive]

Timpo

03-12-2009, 01:03 PM

http://www.autospies.com/news/Fact-Or-Fantasy-Nissan-Claims-GT-R-Series-II-Will-Lap-N-rburgring-In-An-Enzo-Beating-Time-Of-7-24s-41868/

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/gt-r-series-ii-capable-of-lapping-the-n-ring-in-7-24-ar71650.html

vo_hantu

03-12-2009, 01:10 PM

who gives a fuck, lets compare apples with apples and not apples with oranges.

P5-stock

03-12-2009, 01:15 PM

so how many transmissions did they use during that lap?

cococly

03-12-2009, 01:39 PM

Firstly, ENZO FERRARI is an old car now. It's 6 years old.

Second, its an issue of status. Which car is more suitable for a millionaire? a Nissan GTR or a Ferrari Enzo?

1exotic

03-12-2009, 01:56 PM

Stupid fucking idiots, why compare to a 6 year old car?

But anyways, ooooo woopy it might beat the enzo by a few seconds but what's the big deal, the GTR is fucking ugly and the enzo is one of the nicest automobiles ever built.

Timpo

03-12-2009, 02:07 PM

Firstly, ENZO FERRARI is an old car now. It's 6 years old.

Second, its an issue of status. Which car is more suitable for a millionaire? a Nissan GTR or a Ferrari Enzo?yeah but the point is, exotic cars aren't about speed anymore...speed was at least 1 factor before, but not anymore. Since some modern non-exotic cars can beat exotic cars.

back in the day, Lamborghini or Ferrari were supercars...there was no way Skyline or Corvette could keep up.

for example back in early 1990s...

Corvette and Skyline GT-R
http://www.stainlessworks.net/cart/images/vette%20for%20website.jpg
http://www.pistonheads.com/pics/news/17688/1989_GT-R_BNR32-L.jpg

Ferrari and Lambo
http://www.madwhips.com/upload/images/1994_thirty_purple_lamborghini_diablo_se30_1-568-426.jpg
http://car.blogten.jp/4122/PhotoLibrary/p4122106024.jpg

those cars had distinctive difference in territory interms of performance.
for few times of the cost, they better be.

but now, the ZR-1 or GT-R spec-V can go as fast as Ferrari and Lambo. Making Italian exotics less attractive.
Just like how BMW and Mercedes were way more prestigius(spell?) than Lexus, but not anymore.

death_blossom

03-12-2009, 02:46 PM

Just like how BMW and Mercedes were way more prestigius(spell?) than Lexus, but not anymore.

to ppl of the orient/east, Lexus is almost up there. to the ppl of the western and european world, BMW and Mercedes still pwn Lexus. just ask any white person you know, not like you know any, anyways.

Timpo

03-12-2009, 02:51 PM

to ppl of the orient/east, Lexus is almost up there. to the ppl of the western and european world, BMW and Mercedes still pwn Lexus. just ask any white person you know, not like you know any, anyways.

ok I found that white people like Lexus more than Asian people.

I have a feeling Chinese people are helping the sales of BMW and Mercedes. Same as in Japan...people think European cars are better because of it's brand name.

vo_hantu

03-12-2009, 02:56 PM

PavelGTR

03-12-2009, 03:00 PM

enzo is one of the nicest automobiles ever built.
:nono:

wasabisashimi

03-12-2009, 04:20 PM

whats wrong with GTR transmissions? do they fail on daily basis?

some_punk

03-12-2009, 04:30 PM

How about I go five 1/4 mile races with a GTR in my beater 89 camry.

After the 3rd time launch control is activted for the GTR I bet his tranny will need to be replace. I'll be doing laps around his car laughing all day lol until my engine craps out...u get my point though.

Like I said before...apples with apples and not compare apples with oranges

It is on the 11th launch that it breaks. My classmate works at Yonker nissan. He was working on the GTR with the GTR tech. Tech told him that after the 10th launch, the transmission will be gone if they use it the 11th time.

Ludepower

03-12-2009, 06:14 PM

who gives a fuck, lets compare apples with apples and not apples with oranges.

A factory car vs factory car...that's apples to me. This isn't a riced out civic showing off it's quarter mile time...it's the NURBURGRING...so YES..Nissan can compare themselves to Ferrari.

Firstly, ENZO FERRARI is an old car now. It's 6 years old.

Second, its an issue of status. Which car is more suitable for a millionaire? a Nissan GTR or a Ferrari Enzo?

What does status have to do with GTR using Enzo laptime as a benchmark? Dont get your little willy twisted and defend a car you cant afford.

Mancini

03-12-2009, 06:27 PM

^ Agreed.

This is a performance comparison. Determining which car is more desirable is irrelevant.

impactX

03-12-2009, 06:50 PM

What tuning did the GT-R need to run 7:29? Slicks? way more horsepower? Bottomline is, it's not stock. They should start testing cars that freshly rolled out of the dealership's floor.

Enzo's time around the track is 7:25, stock.
http://www.dpccars.com/car-videos-08/12-31-08page-Ferrari-Enzo-Nurburgring.htm

kumbo1

03-12-2009, 06:53 PM

how about a mustang shelby 500KR?

Marco911

03-12-2009, 06:55 PM

Dude, what have you been smoking? Lexus had a competitive advantage to BMW/MB in 1990-1995, but after that BMW, MB and Audi have surged far ahead in terms of building superior vehicles. Lexus makes a reliable car, but other than the LS, the rest of the lineup is pathetic. And the LS is nothing compared to an S-class or 7 Series.

GordonTse

03-12-2009, 07:35 PM

It is on the 11th launch that it breaks. My classmate works at Yonker nissan. He was working on the GTR with the GTR tech. Tech told him that after the 10th launch, the transmission will be gone if they use it the 11th time.

it's Jonker with a J!! haven't you heard the ad's on the radio? and i also work there. who is this classmate of yours? pm me.

ericthehalfbee

03-12-2009, 10:59 PM

Everyone knows Nissan cheated. The evidence is plain as can be to anyone who watches the videos.

Even when cheating, the GTR still can't beat the bone-stock ZR1.

J____

03-12-2009, 11:09 PM

to ppl of the orient/east, Lexus is almost up there. to the ppl of the western and european world, BMW and Mercedes still pwn Lexus. just ask any white person you know, not like you know any, anyways.

its the reverse. asians like bmw/mercedes more. white peeps like the lexus more. asian's all about the status (not necesarily a good thing) if they have money, they'd take german over japanese any day. They'd take a porsche boxter over a NSX anyday, we wouldnt.

JackyJai

03-13-2009, 02:27 AM

ericthehalfbee

03-13-2009, 06:00 AM

Nissan came up with the tires they used on Nurburgring.
Any evidence it was running on slicks?Who cares about slicks or not.

It's 100% obvious NIssan greatly increased the HP and/or shaved weight off the GTR they used.

Nissan are a bunch of fucking cheaters and liars, and anyone who can't see that after watching the videos is a fucking idiot. Oh, and a blind fanboy too.

sulos

03-13-2009, 11:36 AM

Who cares about slicks or not.

It's 100% obvious NIssan greatly increased the HP and/or shaved weight off the GTR they used.

Nissan are a bunch of fucking cheaters and liars, and anyone who can't see that after watching the videos is a fucking idiot. Oh, and a blind fanboy too.

sounds pretty intense, but then again this is the internet and no one cares about what you have to say

Eclypz

03-13-2009, 11:50 AM

How about I go five 1/4 mile races with a GTR in my beater 89 camry.

After the 3rd time launch control is activted for the GTR I bet his tranny will need to be replace. I'll be doing laps around his car laughing all day lol until my engine craps out...u get my point though.

Like I said before...apples with apples and not compare apples with oranges
Except the GTR won't need to use launch control to beat your 89 Camry :p

ericthehalfbee

03-13-2009, 12:26 PM

sounds pretty intense, but then again this is the internet and no one cares about what you have to say
Especially Nissan fanboys who can't come up with any proof to counter the fact Nissan cheated. If they had something to say, they'd be all over my post. Their silence speaks volumes.

Ludepower

03-13-2009, 12:59 PM

Especially Nissan fanboys who can't come up with any proof to counter the fact Nissan cheated. If they had something to say, they'd be all over my post. Their silence speaks volumes.

I think the GTR is a bloated turd and it's nurburgring time fake.

BUT unless you have credible proof from a source besides Porche..then your just talking shit aswell.

unit

03-13-2009, 01:46 PM

so how many transmissions did they use during that lap?

thats not one of those jokes that gets funnier the more times you hear it you know.

MDMA

03-13-2009, 02:57 PM

nissan corp are a bunch of tools

Eastwood

03-13-2009, 05:15 PM

Of course Nissans car that has about 200hp less and weighs about 1000lbs more can beat an Enzo. Duhhhh!!!1!11oneone!!

ZiG-87

03-13-2009, 05:19 PM

Nissan also claims the gtr can outrun an F16 fighter and there's rumor that they also claim the gtr beat the Starship Enterprise around the planet.

penner2k

03-13-2009, 09:51 PM

If you have five dollars and the GTR has five dollars, the GTR has more money than you.
There is no 'ctrl' button on the GTR's computer. the GTR is always in control.
Apple pays the GTR 99 cents every time he listens to a song.
the GTR can sneeze with his eyes open.
the GTR can eat just one Lay's potato chip.
the GTR is suing Myspace for taking the name of what he calls everything around you.
the GTR destroyed the periodic table, because he only recognizes the element of surprise.
the GTR can kill two stones with one bird.

penner2k

03-13-2009, 09:52 PM

When the Boogeyman goes to sleep every night, he checks his closet for the GTR.
The GTR doesn't read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants.
There is no theory of evolution. Just a list of creatures the GTR has allowed to live.
Outer space exists because it's afraid to be on the same planet with the GTR.
The GTR does not sleep. He waits.
The GTR is currently suing NBC, claiming Law and Order are trademarked names for his left and right legs.
The GTR is the reason why Waldo is hiding.
The GTR counted to infinity - twice.
There is no chin behind the GTR’ beard. There is only another fist.
When the GTR does a pushup, he isn’t lifting himself up, he’s pushing the Earth down.
The GTR is so fast, he can run around the world and punch himself in the back of the head.
The GTR’ hand is the only hand that can beat a Royal Flush.
The GTR can lead a horse to water AND make it drink.
The GTR doesn’t wear a watch, HE decides what time it is.
The GTR can slam a revolving door.
The GTR does not get frostbite. the GTR bites frost

hk20000

03-14-2009, 12:03 AM

Chuck Norris jokes don't work so well on cars....

ericthehalfbee

03-14-2009, 10:14 AM

I think the GTR is a bloated turd and it's nurburgring time fake.

BUT unless you have credible proof from a source besides Porche..then your just talking shit aswell.Did you not read my post? When did I talk about Porsche? Look at the ZR1 video and the GTR video and time the cars from point to point down the long back straight.

Then explain why a much slower GTR can stay dead even with the ZR1 over a near 30 second straight line drag race.

Never has a fanboy been able to come up with a single credible reason why the cars stay side-by-side on this straight. The only ones close to making sense are the ZR1 had some sort of problem and wasn't developing all its HP or the driver was sandbagging to get the 7:26 time. Then they could later come back and knock several seconds back off (the second 7:22 run the ZR1 made) in case someone beat the 7:26 time.

Considering how quick a 7:22 (or 7:26) time really is, I doubt you can say the ZR1 was underperforming. If you do, then you also have to admit that the ZR1 is even faster than the lap times suggest, something GTR fans would never want to admit.

The alternative is that the GTR was overperforming, and was a car with a significanlty boosted HP output.