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CRS
03-14-2009, 08:07 AM
Anyone that posts in threads other than the OP will receive points. The only exception is if the item is either stolen or a fake. Anything like "PM'ed" or chatting in the thread will result in points.

This rule has been up since the emergence of the B&S. It will now be regulated strictly because of the increase traffic.

tiger_handheld
03-14-2009, 10:18 AM
so we can no longer ask questions on B&S threads such as "how many times was it worn , got any pics? etc..?

v1nce
03-14-2009, 10:26 AM
that's a good idea. I hate seeing people chat up in a thread.. and the post gets bumped like 1000x in 1 hour.

Nvasion
03-14-2009, 10:47 AM
im lost

gilly
03-14-2009, 01:10 PM
what does OP mean

v1nce
03-14-2009, 01:14 PM
original poster

CRS
03-14-2009, 02:18 PM
so we can no longer ask questions on B&S threads such as "how many times was it worn , got any pics? etc..?

Use the PM function.

If you feel the OP does not provide enough info, feel free to PM him and if you really feel that everyone needs to know, report the post and I'll deal with it and make sure the OP provides enough info.

CRS
03-15-2009, 12:48 AM
Hope everyone is enjoying their points.

InvisibleSoul
03-15-2009, 02:24 AM
Hey CRS, if you actually want to enforce this rule, why don't you or one of the other admins actually set up the Buy and Sell forums such that only the OP can post replies to their thread?

BCSportbikes forum has such a system in place.

CRS
03-15-2009, 07:57 AM
Hey CRS, if you actually want to enforce this rule, why don't you or one of the other admins actually set up the Buy and Sell forums such that only the OP can post replies to their thread?

BCSportbikes forum has such a system in place.

In the works. Trying to figure things out.

Psykopathik
03-16-2009, 08:13 AM
can we mod the forum so only the OP can modify or post? if someone sees a scam /fake/problematic post they should just report it. wouldn't that be easier?

tiger_handheld
03-16-2009, 07:19 PM
^ do we have a REPORT button? if not , we should have one , it should go to section Mod , and if its spam to SG or that pup kid.....

CRS
03-16-2009, 07:50 PM
^ do we have a REPORT button? if not , we should have one , it should go to section Mod , and if its spam to SG or that pup kid.....

Under every persons profile where your avatar is, there are a series of icons underneath it.

You should see a triangle with an exclamation mark on it. Click on that and it will redirect you to the report a post page and will lead us to that particular post/thread.

The message gets sent out to all moderators of that particular subsection.

How it looks like:
http://www.revscene.net/styles/darklight/images/buttons/report.gif

CRS
03-17-2009, 08:59 PM
Hope everyone is enjoying their points.

=)

Presto
03-18-2009, 07:03 PM
I'm gonna bump this up. There's still some people who haven't read the good news.

underscore
03-18-2009, 08:48 PM
Under every persons profile where your avatar is, there are a series of icons underneath it.

You should see a triangle with an exclamation mark on it. Click on that and it will redirect you to the report a post page and will lead us to that particular post/thread.

The message gets sent out to all moderators of that particular subsection.

How it looks like:
http://www.revscene.net/styles/darklight/images/buttons/report.gif

so we have to go to their profile, hit report then send a link to the thread/post?

idk if it's possible to implement this but the OP/mods were the only ones allowed to post in the thread, and each post/thread had a report button right on the page (probably best with a little confirmation box) that'd be wicked.

CRS
03-18-2009, 11:45 PM
so we have to go to their profile, hit report then send a link to the thread/post?

idk if it's possible to implement this but the OP/mods were the only ones allowed to post in the thread, and each post/thread had a report button right on the page (probably best with a little confirmation box) that'd be wicked.

It is right under everyone's avatar. You do not need to go into someone's profile. You simply look on the left (where the avatar is) and look under. It has the Join Date, Location, Thanks, Thanked and under all that is where I'm talking about. A little further down, it will also have that online/offline icon that is either green or grey showing online/offline. There will be the triangle icon there to report posts.

If anyone is still lost, I can do a screen cap and circle it.

underscore
03-19-2009, 07:45 AM
oh man never noticed that before, thanks.

Presto
03-21-2009, 01:12 PM
ttt

twitchyzero
03-21-2009, 09:08 PM
just want calarification..is this only in electronic BST or all BST subforums?

mk1freak
03-22-2009, 03:11 PM
hey i have a question CRS,
what if the moron OP has his mailbox full?
what should we do then? are we allowed to post in the thread then? or do we have to PM the mods for follow up?
Just wondering cuz that would make more work for you (or any mod) in any case which means less time for you to spend with me(@chris) which we both don't want :(

johny
03-22-2009, 05:08 PM
if you don't want people replying in this section then turn it off. another forum I am there is no way to reply in the B&S section except the OP.

as far as I'm concerned if I have a reply button, I can use it.

CRS
03-23-2009, 09:06 AM
if you don't want people replying in this section then turn it off. another forum I am there is no way to reply in the B&S section except the OP.

as far as I'm concerned if I have a reply button, I can use it.

Please, give me a reason. I've wanted to ban you so long but was never given the opportunity. If you even remotely step out of line, your ass will be out of here.

As per inboxes, IF he box is full, you may post in the thread with the info but you NEED to indicate it is full.

*this rule has also been in place for any subsections I moderate. So basically everything under the automotive area with the exception of photography.

johny
03-23-2009, 03:05 PM
I'll stick with my rule, if there is a button on the screen, I'm allowed to use it.

og_greek
03-23-2009, 03:35 PM
shouldn't this be stickied?

Presto
03-23-2009, 05:44 PM
nobody reads stickies

underscore
03-23-2009, 06:00 PM
then fix it do only the OP can post in the BnS forum. wouldn't that be the easiest way to correct the problem? as most people, knowingly or not, will share johny's mindset, if theres a reply button/box I'll use it.

CRS
03-23-2009, 10:40 PM
then fix it do only the OP can post in the BnS forum. wouldn't that be the easiest way to correct the problem? as most people, knowingly or not, will share johny's mindset, if theres a reply button/box I'll use it.

Those people are the same type of people who complain about breaking laws they don't know about.

Just because you can do it doesn't mean you should.

Same concept.

/stupid

Presto
04-02-2009, 06:27 PM
Gotta bump this up again because foos don't read the rules.

DragonChi
04-04-2009, 09:43 AM
Other than people breaking laws that they dont know about... What other motivating factors led to this rule?

I used to find BnS informative... albeit there were a number of posts being shitted on.

CRS
04-04-2009, 02:02 PM
Other than people breaking laws that they dont know about... What other motivating factors led to this rule?

I used to find BnS informative... albeit there were a number of posts being shitted on.

Rule was there since the emergence of the B&S but wasn't strictly reinforced. Now because of excess traffic, it needs to be reinforced.

mk1freak
04-05-2009, 08:55 AM
everyone should just follow the rules. end of story
like a lover of mine who just told me yesterday after meeting me for a quicky at Lansdowne parking lot (no names ok CRS) *winkwink*

"Just because i pay you for sex.....ooops wrong quote people :rolleyes:
this is the correct one:
Just because you don't get caught speeding doesn't mean it's ok and that you can do it all the time. Eventually you will get caught.

same concept.

does posting in this thread count? :eek:

ecsw
04-06-2009, 03:48 PM
I got major points because the OP post the title wrong as 2.3" SATA?

I really don't think it's fair. I read the rule, I never bump anyone's thread after the rule came out. But I simply trying to help the OP to correct the posting title.

Guess I will stop helping anyone here if they post anything wrong.

BTW, I am sure the forum tool had settings to be change to dis-allow anything other than OP if you want to reinforce the rule. After being a memeber for such a long time here and got points for this just made me feel sad. :(

tnkw
04-07-2009, 10:26 AM
Again, if you want to enforce the rule, ban the reply bottom. If your reasoning behind bumping is due to traffic, why don't you look around for other comparible forums such as S2Ki and Honda-tech or other major automotive forum, where from my perspective, more successful in terms of regulation and sponsering.

Now, someone said "Just because you don't get caught speeding doesn't mean it's ok and that you can do it all the time. Eventually you will get caught." Now, this makes valid sense as speeding can potentially lead to serious consiquences. In our case the mod has the reply function enabled which gives the user the ability to use it, and using it does not lead to the same serious consiquences that speeding would.

From another perspective, it is much more useful to have the reply bottom availible as it expose the information to everyone.

The mods are giving points to whoever that replys to the buysell thread. To save yourself some trouble and to save complains from members, you guys should stop giving points and spent that time disable the function.

tnkw
04-07-2009, 10:29 AM
btw, forum works two ways, yes you guys are providing free forums to post buy and sell section, but for you guys to get sponsers its all depends on the users. Maybe its time to find a middle line between how WE think and MODS would applied the rules. People make the rules, but can also change it.

parm104
04-07-2009, 11:44 AM
I got major points because the OP post the title wrong as 2.3" SATA?

I really don't think it's fair. I read the rule, I never bump anyone's thread after the rule came out. But I simply trying to help the OP to correct the posting title.

Guess I will stop helping anyone here if they post anything wrong.

BTW, I am sure the forum tool had settings to be change to dis-allow anything other than OP if you want to reinforce the rule. After being a memeber for such a long time here and got points for this just made me feel sad. :(

This guy has been on this forum since 2002 and you guys gave him points for being helpful and correcting someone's mistake!?

I guess loyalty doesn't mean anything around here...

ecsw
04-07-2009, 03:09 PM
It's all good. CRS and Presto re-evaluate my case and withdraw my points. :) I am glad mods here do listen to members' opinions.

underscore
04-07-2009, 09:08 PM
Now, someone said "Just because you don't get caught speeding doesn't mean it's ok and that you can do it all the time. Eventually you will get caught." Now, this makes valid sense as speeding can potentially lead to serious consiquences. In our case the mod has the reply function enabled which gives the user the ability to use it, and using it does not lead to the same serious consiquences that speeding would.

the other way I see it as well, is that this is like the police having the ability to make it physically impossible for people to speed, but choose not to.

Alatar
04-07-2009, 10:12 PM
It's not a simple setting to limit only the original poster to be able to reply to threads they create, while allowing noone else. Know that it is being worked upon. Also, if you see an error in a thread, report said thread, and a moderator will take the appropriate editing actions.

If you feel you were wrongly awarded points, you can take it up with the moderators at any time, or with myself. I'm available daily if you have any questions, concerns, or general comments.

Presto
04-09-2009, 01:38 PM
Bumping this again, because there's a pool for how many posts after bump will it take for a non-OP to bump a FS thread again.

Presto
04-14-2009, 03:49 PM
Another bump. Last time, some doofus bumped a thread right after this one. The set of points gifted to him sent him to the banned club for a week because he didn't heed the previous reminders.

cunninglinguist
04-14-2009, 05:59 PM
I gotta say this forum is a lot better now than before. Good work mods.

I think some offending posters should get not only points but their posts edited so they are publicly shamed. Something like "I'm a dummy for not using the PM function".

Presto
04-17-2009, 03:35 PM
Sigh...

AzNightmare
04-17-2009, 09:08 PM
Why is this thread not stickied, or better yet put in the
** Buy and Sell Electronics Rules **

How are people supposed to see this, because give 5 mins after I submit this post, someone would have put a new sale ad to cover this very important thread.

Also, a thread title like "STOP POSTING! POINTS!" is a bit vague.

I would rename the tread title to something like "NEW BUY & SELL RULE - PLEASE READ"
that would get people's attention more, in my humble opinion.

btw, this is a great rule. I'm not against it in any way. Just saying that people are probably not following the rules because they simply missed this thread.

Presto
04-17-2009, 11:36 PM
No matter how obvious we make it, there will be people that will still be blind. Stickies are the worst, as no one notices those. I could have it in neon with a marquee lighting, and there'd still be an unauthorized bump within a few posts.

Presto
04-21-2009, 06:24 AM
ttt

10051981
04-22-2009, 08:12 PM
i wonder how craigslist does it....yes they don't have a reply function but they also have much more traffic and don't impose any limitations due to it, as well as it's free with no ads. If anyone knows other than they simply have more resources let me know?

What USED to draw me more to revscene was the fact that you COULD reply to ads, learn more, ask questions which in turn everyone could see the answer to and make a decision as to where to go.

I remember a long time ago, I asked a similar question and a mod bluntly told me that If I didn't like revscene I could leave since I'm not paying. True, directly I'm not paying you, however if im buying off your sponsors, well guess what If I leave my money leaves, and your sponsors leave.

Site traffic growing is a good thing, but don't revert to what may not work, it would be interesting if some sort of poll could be set up to see what members think. Even just for the sake of arguement to see how the community feels. Someone in here mentioned that the ability to take off the reply button is being looked at and worked on, one would think till then to not give out points perhaps?

Anyways, my blabbing is done :)

Presto
04-24-2009, 10:17 AM
bump.

Presto
04-26-2009, 12:00 AM
.

Presto
04-29-2009, 09:09 AM
It's gettin' there.

Presto
05-01-2009, 10:52 AM
bump

Presto
05-03-2009, 02:54 AM
ttt

tnkw
05-04-2009, 02:55 PM
o now, why isn't these 2 get points?

http://www.revscene.net/forums/fs-shaw-hd-t574497.html

did they bribe you guys w/ anything?

twitchyzero
05-04-2009, 09:56 PM
^ are you gonna lose sleep over this?

tnkw
05-05-2009, 10:22 AM
^sure I will, cus I love revscene so much,

now, are you going to lose sleep cus i answer that?

CRS
05-05-2009, 01:20 PM
^sure I will, cus I love revscene so much,

now, are you going to lose sleep cus i answer that?

:drama:

tnkw
05-05-2009, 09:37 PM
^sure CRS, I love dramas. I watch them everyday, and hope one day I can direct one.

Presto
05-10-2009, 07:16 PM
.

Presto
05-12-2009, 08:10 PM
just when you think things are good

Presto
05-15-2009, 07:06 AM
bump

mx100
05-16-2009, 11:40 AM
I like this rule, keeps the forum more organized.

That thread I replied to last night was on the top of the list in the forum...I did not see the STOP POSTING! POINTS! thread you guys made so I got points.. fair enough.. But its kind of naive to believe people will actually see this if its not on the top....Perhaps you can sticky it or put READ BEFORE POSTING to get attention.... Won't get everyone's attention but it will definately be a lot more visible then if its in the middle somewhere.

Better yet, get SG! to issue a PM to everyone on the forum regarding the changes to the buy&sell forum?

just an idea...

Bort
05-16-2009, 02:43 PM
only thing thats not so awesome is amount of misleading information/advertisement that will not get filtered out now, just like craiglist. way too much BS that is allowed to live in their forums because nobody can speak up in the thread, and there is never enough mods, or time for them to go thru every thread that is full of shite. the b/s on craigslist looks worse than my junkmail folder some days. i guess there's really no altrenative tho, kinda shitty either way.

twitchyzero
05-16-2009, 04:32 PM
then report the thread to a mod or PM the seller to change to a reasonable price

Presto
05-18-2009, 09:21 PM
.

jbsali
06-12-2009, 07:35 PM
It's not a simple setting to limit only the original poster to be able to reply to threads they create, while allowing noone else. Know that it is being worked upon. Also, if you see an error in a thread, report said thread, and a moderator will take the appropriate editing actions.

If you feel you were wrongly awarded points, you can take it up with the moderators at any time, or with myself. I'm available daily if you have any questions, concerns, or general comments.

i feel like wrongly awarded points. i give a guy some advice to save him problems w/ an xbox and tell him to buy new. i back up my reason and i still get a fucking citation thing. BS +1

CRS
06-12-2009, 07:43 PM
i feel like wrongly awarded points. i give a guy some advice to save him problems w/ an xbox and tell him to buy new. i back up my reason and i still get a fucking citation thing. BS +1

Perhaps you should have PMed him instead?

jbsali
06-12-2009, 08:01 PM
i still find this rule to be BS

kookiedelsol
06-12-2009, 11:26 PM
I have been a member of this site since 2001 and I guess things have changed. I thought the whole purpose of a forum is for public knowledge, should apply to B&S as well. I would understand about people abusing posts with nonsense but stuff that actually apply to the topic or sale of the item should be let through. There should be a medium because if I have a question about an item or an offer, it would be helpful for others interested in the item as well because they would probably have the same questions. Plus couldn't the OP have the ability to manage their own thread?

Renxo
09-03-2009, 01:48 PM
Some ppl don't check their pm's fast enough ...if this was such an important rule why is it so lost in your post:

Selling for Profit, Lowballing, Thread-jacking, Chatting and Flaming NOT TOLERATED
This is a Buy and Sell forum. A place to Buy and sell commodities of personal use. If any of the above rules are broken, you will get points and a subsequent ban if you break them more than once. We don't care if you saw the item for cheaper at the store or if you PMed the OP. DON'T POST IT!

I had to re-read that rule post like three times to find it. Should be more clear honestly...feels lost in there.

Take off my points please...not my fault this is hard to find...I'm not gonna search back thru classified to June 13th to find some obscure rule in this obscure thread.

Bump so everyone else knows about this rule.

Presto
09-03-2009, 02:04 PM
Keep the points. Consider it a reminder. They expire in a month, anyways.

Renxo
09-03-2009, 02:05 PM
is there a post that shows what they even do...?

Alatar
09-03-2009, 03:55 PM
Get enough points and you'll find out.

Or visit the support forum.

Carl Johnson
09-03-2009, 05:29 PM
i still find this rule to be BS

it doesn't matter what you think. to be on RS is a privilege not a right.

hotjoint
09-04-2009, 06:46 AM
I still see tons of people posting replies in buy and sell threads

Inaii
09-04-2009, 09:03 AM
Should just get rid of the B&S forums completely =] Then no one would get points for replying =p

Vansterdam
09-04-2009, 11:24 AM
:rolleyes: i think this rule is total BS, bunch of power hungry noob ass mods

why don't you guys just set a rule where you can bump only every 72 hours?(asides from people asking legit questions) im sure if another RS member post's a question on an item alot of other people would be interested as well, maybe the price is to high, maybe theres a place where you can get it cheaper.. maybe the person forgot to add some information and it would sure help if someone pointed that out rather then get 10 PM's on the same question.hell alot of the times people don't even check their PM's


* i woulden't be suprised if someone on here gets offended and power trips :rolleyes: i understand you guys are just doing ur job and shit but this rule is whack as hell

Presto
09-04-2009, 12:32 PM
Your idea sucks. So if it's 72 hours, then non-OP posts to threads would be even more unfairly bumped. If people are selling something, why wouldn't they check PMs? If they get 10 PMs on the same subject, it would be in their best interest to update their thread with more info. Defaults are set to pop-up notifications of new PM's, and email notifications can be enabled as well. I know that common sense isn't common, but at some point, people need to take responsibility for themselves.

nabs
09-21-2009, 04:30 PM
lol i didn't even notice this rule. sorry bout that guys.

skypil0t
09-21-2009, 04:58 PM
I got points against me because I replied to someones question on my own thread. I was then told to read the rules. I did, and not once did I see a rule that specifically says "Only OP can post on the thread, questions MUST be asked thru pm".

Rather than spread out these unwritten rules that don't show up in the RULES threads in other threads, CLEARLY PUT THEM IN THE RULES SECTION!!!!! It's almost like dealing with Transport Canada here. Yikes.

CRS
09-22-2009, 12:11 AM
I got points against me because I replied to someones question on my own thread. I was then told to read the rules. I did, and not once did I see a rule that specifically says "Only OP can post on the thread, questions MUST be asked thru pm".

Rather than spread out these unwritten rules that don't show up in the RULES threads in other threads, CLEARLY PUT THEM IN THE RULES SECTION!!!!! It's almost like dealing with Transport Canada here. Yikes.

Bumping
Only one bump per two calender day. Bumping more than once in two day will result in points. If you need to add info, please use the edit button instead of adding a new post to your thread. This is due to the excess taffic on the Electronics Forums.

Selling for Profit, Lowballing, Thread-jacking, Chatting and Flaming NOT TOLERATED
This is a Buy and Sell forum. A place to Buy and sell commodities of personal use. If any of the above rules are broken, you will get points and a subsequent ban if you break them more than once. We don't care if you saw the item for cheaper at the store or if you PMed the OP. DON'T POST IT!

For your convenience, I apologize that we made the assumption that people could figure this out and stop posting replies in their thread instead of PMs so that they do not bump their thread or create chatter in the thread.

I guess having a reasonable amount of intelligence is too much to ask for.

Mashimaro
09-22-2009, 04:00 PM
Rather than spread out these unwritten rules that don't show up in the RULES threads in other threads, CLEARLY PUT THEM IN THE RULES SECTION!!!!! Yikes.

CRS - i suggest adding this rule to be clearly written in the Buy and Sell rules stickied at the top of the page.

That's the first place i checked the last time i pm'd you and that's why i was confused until i read this thread.

Put it in bold for dummies like me who have been around since 2001.

Presto
09-23-2009, 07:47 AM
The main issue is that people don't read. Like I said before, we could put it in big flashing lights, with some guy yelling on a megaphone, and the violations would still happen. Points are good reminder. If folks, continually, fail to pay attention to that reminder, then they'll get banned.

CP.AR
09-27-2009, 01:10 AM
I just saw this...as Mashimaro suggested above, can we have this as a sticky or integrated into the general Buy and Sell rules? I honestly haven't seen this rule before and must admit I have made several infractions prior

CRS
09-27-2009, 07:35 AM
Re-read the rules...

Presto
01-04-2010, 11:12 AM
Bump for the new year. Now that the holidays are over, this will be aggressively reinforced. Thanks for your attention.

yiujun
01-19-2010, 11:39 AM
never knew this rule to be in existence. presto's logic that people don't read stickies sort of fail.

either way some people will forget to read the sticky and post on other ppl's B/S thread, sure, but wouldn't putting it in a sticky actually reduce the number of ppl getting points since some ppl do actually read the stickies?

and if this rule wasn't made widely known to all members of the forum, perhaps each case should be individually evaluated based on the content instead of just randomly issuing major points to everyone who posts. my post was a question that other interested buyers would have asked, and if the OP did not answer my question he could have his inbox flooded with the same question from multiple interested buyers. my post was not to flame the seller, or bump his post. sure it makes the threads clean, but the B/S posts now are also sadly uninformative as there is no Q&A between seller and potential buyers.

instant question and answer is so much faster than reporting to a moderator and having the moderator then ask the seller to update his information.

just my 2 cents.