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Essential daily supplements?
Hondaracer
03-22-2009, 11:49 PM
Just about to get back into a decent work out regime and was wondering what ppl take for their general health on the daily?
Currently I take omega 3-6-9, vitamin d, c,e, multi, glucosamine, and additional fiber
I've heard good things about fish oils, green tea extract, flax seed oil?
diesel_test
03-23-2009, 07:38 AM
all you need is a good multi-vatimin.
Berzerker
03-23-2009, 07:42 AM
I eat lots of McDonalds with some Burger King thrown in for good measure... seems to be working for me. I've been looking into protein powders recently though just haven't pulled the trigger on anything yet.
Berz out.
SkinnyPupp
03-23-2009, 07:43 AM
IMO, there are three absolute essentials you should take, unless you eat a perfect diet.
1) Fish Oil - at least 3500-4000mg of combined EPA/DHA per day. With a high quality product, this is about 5-6 caps a day. Don't buy cheap stuff or you'll have to take like 13 caps a day!
2) Greens+ - a full serving every single morning
3) Good multi-vitamin. Quest Super or something along those lines.
hal0g0dv2
03-24-2009, 09:49 AM
this stuff is amazing
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Amorphic
03-24-2009, 02:06 PM
Just about to get back into a decent work out regime and was wondering what ppl take for their general health on the daily?
Currently I take omega 3-6-9, vitamin d, c,e, multi, glucosamine, and additional fiber
I've heard good things about fish oils, green tea extract, flax seed oil?
you've got the right idea. flax seed oil and fish oils are a good source of omegas, just get them in pill form to avoid the taste.
azndvdiz
03-24-2009, 04:39 PM
multi vits
omega 369
cla
SkinnyPupp
03-24-2009, 09:04 PM
Don't bother with omega 6 and 9 - we get plenty of that in our diets due to the prolific use of vegetable oil in cooking these days. Mega dosing omega 3 is a good idea.
The studies done on CLA are sketchy at best, in terms of weight loss. They make some pretty hefty claims, but I haven't heard much in terms of results from real people. You do have to mega-dose it (more than 6g per day) so that could explain why. Not many people are willing to take enough of a supplement to get any effects from it.
Hondaracer
03-24-2009, 09:30 PM
what is CLA?
skinny can u recomend any certain brand of fish oil or just go looking for one along the guidelines u laied out in your first post?
just curious as to why your taking glucosamine?
SkinnyPupp
03-24-2009, 09:36 PM
what is CLA?
skinny can u recomend any certain brand of fish oil or just go looking for one along the guidelines u laied out in your first post?
When I was in Canada I bought President's Choice brand "Omega 3 Body". It contains 700mg of EPA/DHA per capsule, so you only need to take 5-6 caps a day to get the full mega-dose. Look for the bronze coloured bottle.
When buying fish oil, make sure to get the freshest bottle you can (check the expiry dates). Also, keep it refrigerated or even frozen as it's being stored. I keep a few 360-cap bottles in my freezer, and just empty about 50 of them into a smaller bottle for use throughout the week. During summers in HK, I can't do that at all, so have to take them right from the freezer. Also, for best absorption, you want to take fish oil with a carb, as it is preferentially oxidized by the liver. This is only an issue if you're on a low-carb diet usually. Basically, take it with food.
CLA = conjugated linoleic acid. Some studies show that mega-dosing it can really help with fat loss, but all studies were done on obese people, so it is likely that any improvement in their diets would be responsible for their results.
Nocardia
04-18-2009, 10:53 PM
If you are truly interested:
Over the span of 3 or 4 days, note what you have been eating and see what your intake of vitamins and minerals are. You can buy some programs that help you track it as well. You would be surprised to see that you don't need anything. Multi-vitamins may be good but you are likely overdosing some vitamins (which usually isn't that much of an issue).
CLA may help reduce body fat but not overall weight (make you more lean). It actually isn't really recommended in obese people because it may increase the risk of diabetes in overweight people.
Hondaracer
05-16-2009, 04:28 PM
so i went out and bought both the OMEGA3 fish oil, same brand as you refered to skinny, as well as Flax oil caps
although they are both omega3 they are different correct? maybe just mix both and take like a half dose of each?
EDIT* nevermind found my answers, both are good and both should be taken in full portions
SkinnyPupp
05-16-2009, 06:44 PM
Return the flax oil if you can, there's no point in taking both. Flax oil's omega 3's have to be converted to your body, and you can't really mega dose.
If weight loss is your goal, all you need is the fish oil. Take 6 a day with food.
Hondaracer
05-16-2009, 09:23 PM
so like 2-2-2 with each main meal?
SkinnyPupp
05-16-2009, 09:50 PM
sure
Hondaracer
05-20-2009, 03:28 PM
quick q to anyone here since they seem to ignore me on bodybuilding.com...
when a suplement is suppose to be say.. 3G a day, should you be taking 3G all at once or over the day?
mostly concerned with this regarding the fish oil and CLA..
SkinnyPupp
05-20-2009, 08:49 PM
Always spread it out, especially with fats that can be burned as fuel easily
Xnova
05-24-2009, 02:03 PM
is centrium a good brand
way2quik
06-08-2009, 08:07 PM
so i also followed skinnypupp's advice.
i am new to taking supplements, but these fish oil caps are huge. do you guys take them with meals? or take them separately after meals? or does it not matter? =x
hal0g0dv2
06-08-2009, 08:57 PM
so i also followed skinnypupp's advice.
i am new to taking supplements, but these fish oil caps are huge. do you guys take them with meals? or take them separately after meals? or does it not matter? =x
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SkinnyPupp
06-08-2009, 09:40 PM
so i also followed skinnypupp's advice.
i am new to taking supplements, but these fish oil caps are huge. do you guys take them with meals? or take them separately after meals? or does it not matter? =x
What caps did you get? How much is in each? Look at EPA/DHA, not total oil per cap.
The easiest way to do it is split the dosage into your 2 biggest meals. So if you have to take 7 a day, take 4 in the morning with breakfast, and 3 with lunch or dinner.
And BTW, the fish burps go away with time :)
Meowjin
06-08-2009, 10:19 PM
i took cla when i was losing weight the first time but I was also stacking ECA at the time. I stopped taking the CLA's because I think ECA's worked better.
Meowjin
06-08-2009, 10:21 PM
animal pack is good. Right now, I'm taking progressive multivitamins. They are cheap and i've seen decent reviews on line.
way2quik
06-08-2009, 10:30 PM
What caps did you get? How much is in each? Look at EPA/DHA, not total oil per cap.
The easiest way to do it is split the dosage into your 2 biggest meals. So if you have to take 7 a day, take 4 in the morning with breakfast, and 3 with lunch or dinner.
And BTW, the fish burps go away with time :)
PC brand, bronze bottle. 400/300 EPA/DHA, pretty much what you bought before, never seen capsules like those :eek:. For starters, would it be best to begin with 1 for each meal the first week then bump up to 2 per meal?
Reading up on the net about side effects seemed frightening.
SkinnyPupp
06-08-2009, 10:48 PM
PC brand, bronze bottle. 400/300 EPA/DHA, pretty much what you bought before, never seen capsules like those :eek:. For starters, would it be best to begin with 1 for each meal the first week then bump up to 2 per meal?
Reading up on the net about side effects seemed frightening.
They were no bigger than normal for me... As far as side effects, there shouldn't be any, other than improvements in basically all functions in your body. The only I have read about are minor blood thinning issues, and some claim that it can lower your immunity to colds and flu... But I don't buy that, considering I have been living in a cold & flu haven for the last 3 years, and haven't caught anything since I started taking a lot of fish oil.
Hondaracer
06-09-2009, 09:33 AM
i took cla when i was losing weight the first time but I was also stacking ECA at the time. I stopped taking the CLA's because I think ECA's worked better.
Those are really 2 totally different things
Btw, from my reasearch almost no ones does an "eca" stack anymore, only EC everyone cuts out the aspirin now.
Fuck my progress has slowed becuase my knee is pretty much blown out, I thought it got like that from the treadmill but I've been off it for about a week and my knee is still fucked, need to to see a doc about it
As for the fish oil though I would say that I do feel better lately, I'm nearly through a bottle of CLA as well as the fish oil, trying my best to eat smaller meals and stay away from garbage but with my knee all fucked up I've been drinking on the weekends :(
SkinnyPupp
06-09-2009, 07:04 PM
Fuck the treadmill, fuck running. All that you'll accomplish are blown knees and muscle loss. Go to proper high intensity weight training 3 days a week, and HIIT 3 days a week (can be on the same day). Your fat will melt off.
On your weight days, do 4 exercises: A pulling exercise, a pushing exercise, a squat or deadlift, and abs.
Running is the stupidest thing you could do if you're trying to cut a lot of fat at once.
Hondaracer
06-09-2009, 08:55 PM
worked great for me before, but yes my knees aint like they used to be
SkinnyPupp
06-09-2009, 09:16 PM
Because humans aren't really meant to run for long distances. Sure, some people can, but let them ruin their bodies. If you want to be at peak physical condition, there are much better ways to do it.
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