[unit]

so i was sitting here at work, having some problems trying to get some computer software issues to work. getting stressed out over an order that's been giving me problems.
i took a break and saw this, and it made just about everything in life seem so damn trivial.
even when i get on an airplane and look out the window and see all the little dots moving around on the streets, and see the mountains and fields, it makes you feel so small.
looking at this picture and trying to grasp the scale of things just makes me feel so insignificant. enjoy! :D



http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/2706/spaceb.jpg

[The_AK]

No

[Presto]

It blows my mind how small our Sun actually is, compared with other stars.

[WakeMeUp]

Incredible. Nice post.

[Carl Johnson]

my tiny little brain cannot comprehend all of it lol...

[ienhz]

always wanted to be an astronomer, but i'm sure accounting is just as fun.

[Stevie P]

Grain of sand on a beach.

[ynot-llat]

This picture is the most IMPORTANT PICTURE ever to have been taken in Human history.

This picture proves the existence of Alien life away from our planet Earth.

There's no way, we are the only intelligent life in this Multiverse. That is beyond ignorance to think that way, and even more ignorant to think we're intelligent.

If any of you guys are interested, start learning from Dr Michio Kaku.
This guy is real. He makes impossible concepts into very simple analogies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyXVCggV6EU

[AzNightmare]

always wanted to be an astronomer, but i'm sure accounting is just as fun.


^ and a lot easier.
I can't imagine the calculations astronomers have to do to even get any of their datas.

[ZhangFei]

This picture is the most IMPORTANT PICTURE ever to have been taken in Human history.

This picture proves the existence of Alien life away from our planet Earth.

There's no way, we are the only intelligent life in this Multiverse. That is beyond ignorance to think that way, and even more ignorant to think we're intelligent.

If any of you guys are interested, start learning from Dr Michio Kaku.
This guy is real. He makes impossible concepts into very simple analogies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyXVCggV6EU

how does that "prove the existence of Alien life"?

it is plausible that there are aliens, but i don't think there is any hardcore evidence that aliens exist. it would put aliens and ufos on the same level as religion

[will068]

He makes impossible concepts into very simple analogies.


Attributes of a genius right there.

[ShanghaiKid]

:fuuuuu: FML!!!!!!!! NONE OF IT MATTERED :eek5r:

[Jackygor]

we are so insignificant

[skyxx]

Your mind is the key to visualizing and understanding the universe/multiverses.

[hal0g0dv2]

w0w cool post, this stuff is cool once you start getting deep into it

[Culture_Vulture]

This picture is the most IMPORTANT PICTURE ever to have been taken in Human history.

This picture proves the existence of Alien life away from our planet Earth.

There's no way, we are the only intelligent life in this Multiverse. That is beyond ignorance to think that way, and even more ignorant to think we're intelligent.

If any of you guys are interested, start learning from Dr Michio Kaku.
This guy is real. He makes impossible concepts into very simple analogies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyXVCggV6EU
I watched the whole thing, but I don't understand nearly enough to give an educated response.
So this is gonna sound really immature,
but he says "white" like Stewie from Family Guy says "Whip" :lol

[KingDeeCee]

LOL, just like my science teacher. Haa-what.

Anyways, that fucking picture reminded me of some nightmare that I can never remember. Pretty cool stuff.

[shenmecar]

shit, wasnt there a youtube video on here a while back that did a zoom-out of earth and showed the stars in relation to earth. that blew my mind.

[sexyflanders]

It's so amazing how insignificant we are. There has to be another Earth 2 billion years away, right?

I used to believe each country was it's own planet and that you had to travel through space to go to another country. Oh the uneducated 5 year old me...

[PiuYi]

my tiny little brain cannot comprehend all of it lol...

+1

btw anyone ever wonder if all those galaxies may be some sort of optical illusion? it said the size of that galaxy is so large it defies the laws of current physics... and at 800million years old the universe should have still been expanding at a tremendous rate, so the tiny little spot there, since we're looking 13billion years into the past, could actually make up more of the universe than we think

plus, mankind's knowledge of optics is tiny compared to its knowledge of physics, which is still really small, so maybe we shouldnt trust what we see as much as we should trust good old laws of physics?

anyone got any feedback?

[achiam]

Actually, if you consider how old the Universe is from Big Bang onwards (prior to which matter did not exist, and all energy/matter was focused on a critical mass, which then exploded and continues to expand outwards from this focal point), and the time which Earth developed and life flourished, its possible that since the Big Bang, there have been many planets such as ours which developed life and already died before we even came to being.

E.g.
Life of Universe = 8 B years
Life of our solar system and Earth = 2 B years

If you take this into account, its incredibly silly to even think of putting research interests into anything but Astronomy/Applied Physics. In the end, those are the only "real" sciences as it does not get anymore micro than that.

[JSALES]

awesome post

[AsBannedAsItGets]

Try to wrap your brain around this. Good stuff!!
We're basically as irrelevant as the grains on a beach.
Mind Fuck?

[CanadaGoose]

Amazing

[tonyvu]

yea... i love the universe... so vast..

[Harvey Specter]

Refreshing post.

[meepmeepdeath]

If you take this into account, its incredibly silly to even think of putting research interests into anything but Astronomy/Applied Physics. In the end, those are the only "real" sciences as it does not get anymore micro than that.

If dr house looked at the sky all day, his patients would be dead.

[RRxtar]

this is one hell of an increadable post

[RRxtar]

want to feel really small?

the earth has a surface area of aproximately 5,490,232,704,000,000 square feet. that means that that your 1000sqft condo is only 1/5,490,232,704,000th of the total land on earth. and earth is hardly a fart in the wind in the grand scheme of things.

[03aspec]

Wow, way to trip me out first thing on a Saturday morning. :|

[Jason00S2000]

Well, time to get stoned and ponder this.

[JSilver]

This kinda shit honestly gets your mind thinking... Like I'm not even sure what to think of at then moment. Just too amazing.

[BNR32_Coupe]

Want to get mind fucked harder?

Life began from a mathematical correlation of particles (as discovered recently in a university in quebec), which evolved over time into the animals/creatures we see today. We're simply an extension of these first particles which came together. By definition, we're just particles that form up cells. Likewise, our brains, made entirely out of the same cells, create consciousness and our perception of existence.

Ever gone to sleep without dreaming? Do you remember what existence was like before you were born? That's what's waiting for you when you die. Death is the end to our existence, our mind doesn't go into an after life. Some of us would like to think there's one, though, to maybe give life some meaning or soften the hard truth of death. But in actuality, when the brain dies, it's simply ending the life system of cells, just like cutting grass, killing cows for your big mac, or using anti-bacterial soap.

There's this thing called Terror Management Theory:

The theory builds from the assumption that the capability of self-reflection and the consciousness of one’s own mortality can be regarded as a continuous source for existential anguish. This "irresolvable paradox" is created from the desire to preserve life and the realization of that impossibility (because life is finite).

Basically, we tell ourselves that there's a life after death, that we go somewhere when we die, maybe so that we can tell our stories of our past life to other dead people. We do this to give life meaning, and keep ourselves seperate from the animals which do not realize their impending doom.

[Shun Izaki]

great post, but... still i want more money.

[Presto]

Ever gone to sleep without dreaming? Do you remember what existence was like before you were born? That's what's waiting for you when you die. Death is the end to our existence, our mind doesn't go into an after life. Some of us would like to think there's one, though, to maybe give life some meaning or soften the hard truth of death. But in actuality, when the brain dies, it's simply ending the life system of cells, just like cutting grass, killing cows for your big mac, or using anti-bacterial soap.

There is no solid proof, for or against, of an afterlife. What you state is not fact.

[Jason00S2000]

Want to get mind fucked harder?

Life began from a mathematical correlation of particles (as discovered recently in a university in quebec), which evolved over time into the animals/creatures we see today. We're simply an extension of these first particles which came together. By definition, we're just particles that form up cells. Likewise, our brains, made entirely out of the same cells, create consciousness and our perception of existence.


I have a problem with this.


People have long debated the "how?" question. We are getting closer and closer to figuring this out.


The question of "why?" to me is actually much simpler. We are probably here to experience ourselves, as in, nothing is possible without something to witness it. We, and other conscious life forms, could be that. Who's to say that ghosts or other entities do not exist? Could they be silently experiencing not the physical earth, but the collective emotions and thoughts we project? Perhaps we are like one giant unit of consciousness, like thing of a massive, massive disco ball, and each one of us represents our own unique square on that disco ball. Like the late, great Bill Hicks said:

"Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration. That we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. There is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves"


I try not to think too much on it, because I have to keep in mind that I'm only limited to what my senses allow me to pick up on and understand.

When I die, I will step into the abyss, unafraid.

[Jason00S2000]

Interesting to think that we could be trapped in an endless cycle of life evolving into various levels of consciousness, that eventually something, whether man or machine, left to evolve over billions of years, could become so conscious and powerful that it decides to end itself by creating another big bang.

[!SG]

and yet i still cant find vitamin water formula 50 (50cent grape flavor) anywhere!

[BNR32_Coupe]

and yet i still cant find vitamin water formula 50 (50cent grape flavor) anywhere!

!SG, last warning before points. Stay on topic, thanks.

[!SG]

i call your bluff and raise you a temperary ban!

!SG, last warning before points. Stay on topic, thanks.

[Gary Oak]

that was just fucked up

[Aetios]

this is too overwhelming for me...I need to sit down.

[jasperlin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpkSeVgvA0o&feature=related

this video is a repost, but it's a good one.

[twitchyzero]

didnt we learn all this in grade 9 science loll

i thought what's more mind blowing is not how small we are

what's more unbelieveable is what we see isn't what's actually there right now in time.

Light takes time to travel...and it would take us 15 min when the sun stops burning before we even know it.

Now, we have all these fancy scopes for exploring any signs of extraterrestrial life.

But this is insignificant, because what we ACTUALLY see through our lenses is what actually occurred few million years ago (depend on how far this planet is)

I think the fucked up thing is, what if other life forms out there had their scopes on Earth RIGHT NOW...but to them we're still just buncha fucking unicellular bacteria floating around in water.

insane, yo!

[scheng924]

i just hope the wraith doesn't come and suck our life away...

*stargate stargate*

[m4k4v4li]

how does that "prove the existence of Alien life"?

i don't think there is any hardcore evidence that aliens exist. it would put aliens and ufos on the same level as religion

o rly? but there IS hardcore evidence out there, like all the autopsy photos that the US gov't keeps super top secret duh

just kidding aliens dont fucking exist!! i sure as hell have never seen one, nor have my friends
I mean its not like we're
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my astro physics prof said any life form capable of travelling faster than the speed of light would have no incentive to make contact with primitive stupid fucking humans like zhangfei

[m4k4v4li]

if you like mind fuck shit like that you should watch the film FLATLAND - talks about dimensions (same makers of what the bleep do we know)

its animated and is not just interesting but pretty entertaining too ( watch it high itll be a trip )

[svelt]

didnt we learn all this in grade 9 science loll

i thought what's more mind blowing is not how small we are

what's more unbelieveable is what we see isn't what's actually there right now in time.

Light takes time to travel...and it would take us 15 min when the sun stops burning before we even know it.

Now, we have all these fancy scopes for exploring any signs of extraterrestrial life.

But this is insignificant, because what we ACTUALLY see through our lenses is what actually occurred few million years ago (depend on how far this planet is)

I think the fucked up thing is, what if other life forms out there had their scopes on Earth RIGHT NOW...but to them we're still just buncha fucking unicellular bacteria floating around in water.

insane, yo!

What's even more interesting about that is that because we see things based on the length of time light takes to travel, what we see 13 billion light years away is the extent of what we will, by current physics theories' accounts, EVER see. This is called the "observable universe", meaning everything outside of this 13.7 billion light year window = things that we will never be able to observe (though may affect us in some way through gravitational effects). If the expanding universe is true, then we will eventually be able to see fewer and fewer things as they get farther and farther away, outside of our observable window

[!SG]

makes you wonder, in this universe, there has to be an exact twin of yourself...

[keitaro]

There is an awesome show on discovery channel that comes on once in awhile. (its a single show). Its called 'Journey to the edge of the universe'.

http://www.discoverychannel.ca/showpage.aspx?sid=14312

Its a mind blowing show to watch, and even better in HD!

[ShanghaiKid]

anyone ever watch the movie "contact"? relevant to this post, one of my favourite sci-fi movies of all time too

[OffSea]

There probably is an alternate universe, or galaxy even to ours. Just goes to show that anything is possible, and we're all just a tiny speck (even smaller) than anything else in the universe.

[impactX]

The other stars that we see today might have died already at this point in time. It's just depressing until we can find a way to travel faster than light or bend space and time.

[twitchyzero]

^ quick..jump into a black hole!

[skyxx]

makes you wonder, in this universe, there has to be an exact twin of yourself...

Right now I'm fapping to Megan Fox but in another universe at the same time I'm fapping to Gal Gadot! WHOA that's Mind Blasting!:D

[impactX]

Right now I'm fapping to Megan Fox but in another universe at the same time Megan Fox is fapping to me! WHOA that's Mind Blasting!:D

Fixed.

[NimbeeTT]

And i quote from what my bf said today,
"See, this is why I question the existence of God.."

This makes me feel so much smaller and less significant than i already thought i was :cry:

[for the nguyen!]

Can anyone recommend good books on this sort of thing?

And by good, I mean something an idiot can understand.

[Ludepower]

how does that "prove the existence of Alien life"?

it is plausible that there are aliens, but i don't think there is any hardcore evidence that aliens exist. it would put aliens and ufos on the same level as religion

Do these pics and numbers mean anything to you? Our existence means nothing...we're a spec on the beach...who the fock would visit us?

There is no solid proof, for or against, of an afterlife. What you state is not fact.


Safe to say...there is no afterlife...religion is a scam...only tool it serves is for it's moral values.

great post, but... still i want more money.

LOL aint that the truff...

after we finish reading this thread...we all go back to the daily grind for the paper....this is how the universe actually runs. ;)

[seakrait]

anyone ever watch the movie "contact"? relevant to this post, one of my favourite sci-fi movies of all time too

it was just on the family channel. watched it again just for kicks. on a side note, mmm... jodie foster.

[Aetios]

^uh...not in that movie, they couldn't have made her more of a lesbian if they tried. I know she slept with McConaughey, but she was pretty dyked out throughout the movie.

[Ax2-Y]

anyone else notice that the pic is watermarked from jj.am :O you sure you were doing "work" and not taking a break from killing kittens? :)

[Jason00S2000]

Can anyone recommend good books on this sort of thing?

And by good, I mean something an idiot can understand.


Fabric of the Cosmos, Brian Greene

[hotjoint]

cool

[BNR32_Coupe]

Do these pics and numbers mean anything to you? Our existence means nothing...we're a spec on the beach...who the fock would visit us?




Safe to say...there is no afterlife...religion is a scam...only tool it serves is for it's moral values.



LOL aint that the truff...

after we finish reading this thread...we all go back to the daily grind for the paper....this is how the universe actually runs. ;)

couldn't be more right. everyone that isn't tied up to 420 style philosophy and making up stuff with their imagination knows that there's an end to a life just like there's a beginning. once you're dead, that's it. your life doesnt matter, as much as we'd like to think it does. religion is basically psychological police that kept us sane from the beginning

[Jason00S2000]

couldn't be more right. everyone that isn't tied up to 420 style philosophy and making up stuff with their imagination knows that there's an end to a life just like there's a beginning. once you're dead, that's it. your life doesnt matter, as much as we'd like to think it does. religion is basically psychological police that kept us sane from the beginning


I'm not completely positive on that. I don't know what happens and neither do you.


I think my experiences with different states of consciousness have made me aware that nothing is quite as it seems, things really are ambiguous and your senses and brain together only paint a very small picture of reality.

[m4k4v4li]

o rly

[Presto]

couldn't be more right. everyone that isn't tied up to 420 style philosophy and making up stuff with their imagination knows that there's an end to a life just like there's a beginning. once you're dead, that's it. your life doesnt matter, as much as we'd like to think it does. religion is basically psychological police that kept us sane from the beginning

I'm not completely positive on that. I don't know what happens and neither do you.


+1

There is no proof as to what happens when we die. If you want to subscribe that we become nothing but worm food, that's good for you.

[q0192837465]

I think we shouldnt limit ourselves to the "Laws of Physics". It is a set of theories that are developed on Earth and how things behave in the other end of the universe may be vastly different. We should continually modify the laws and accept that physics as we understand is not complete.

And in theory, if we can travel at the speed of light, time will stand still. If we can travel FASTER than the speed of light, time goes backward. SO, it may be interesting if say a planet A is 10 lightyears away, the image we see is from 10 years ago. If we can travel faster than the speed of light, time goes backward and we can reach planet A without discrepency in time, we'll be there "now"

[unit]

^great first point. the laws of physics on earth dont change, but outside of earth? same rules do not apply

[for the nguyen!]

Fabric of the Cosmos, Brian Greene


Thanks, dude. I'll check it out.

[Jason00S2000]

I think we shouldnt limit ourselves to the "Laws of Physics". It is a set of theories that are developed on Earth and how things behave in the other end of the universe may be vastly different. We should continually modify the laws and accept that physics as we understand is not complete.

And in theory, if we can travel at the speed of light, time will stand still. If we can travel FASTER than the speed of light, time goes backward. SO, it may be interesting if say a planet A is 10 lightyears away, the image we see is from 10 years ago. If we can travel faster than the speed of light, time goes backward and we can reach planet A without discrepency in time, we'll be there "now"



Yes, Newton long pondered what a bucket on a rope, filled with water, and set to spin, how it would react in a universe with no other matter in it.


Fabric of the Cosmos goes in depth on some of the theories and we really don't know what things are like on the other side of the universe.

Read up on dark matter and dark energy. Also, the universe is actually speeding away from itself at a faster and faster rate, leading some to believe in billions and billions more years, the universe will become dark and a complete blank slate again.

[Jason00S2000]

Thanks, dude. I'll check it out.


It is an awesome books.


The next book I read after was Schrodinger's Kittens, then a couple other books. My other favorite book is Origins of consciousness in the breakdown of the bicameral mind.

[BNR32_Coupe]

I think we shouldnt limit ourselves to the "Laws of Physics". It is a set of theories that are developed on Earth and how things behave in the other end of the universe may be vastly different. We should continually modify the laws and accept that physics as we understand is not complete.

And in theory, if we can travel at the speed of light, time will stand still. If we can travel FASTER than the speed of light, time goes backward. SO, it may be interesting if say a planet A is 10 lightyears away, the image we see is from 10 years ago. If we can travel faster than the speed of light, time goes backward and we can reach planet A without discrepency in time, we'll be there "now"

great second point, laws of physics aren't broken by any means.

[Adsdeman]

And people still beleive there is no life in outer space!

[Jason00S2000]

great second point, laws of physics aren't broken by any means.


Well, the theories go that to travel FTL, you would either bend spacetime and create a wormhole between two points, or, you would stretch or shrink the space in front of you and space would act as a moving walkway at like an airport, allowing you to travel faster than light while not actually travelling faster than light.


However, we're a long way off, since the majority of us can't even decide to stop killing each other over who's invisible sky daddy is the best.

[TheKingdom2000]

always wanted to be an astronomer, but i'm sure accounting is just as fun.

i don't think accounting can me more fun than astronomy. but that's imo.


plus, mankind's knowledge of optics is tiny compared to its knowledge of physics, which is still really small, so maybe we shouldnt trust what we see as much as we should trust good old laws of physics?
anyone got any feedback?

i don't believe so. I think we got optics thought out pretty well. Hasn't it been proven time and time again in countless experiments. If we got optics wrong. So many of our experiments here on earth would be incorrect or yield incorrect results.


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the entire universe is ~14 billion years old.
the cool thing about looking at photo's is that we're actually looking in the past. that photo of those galaxies that were 13 billion light years away. we're actually looking 13 billion years in the past. soo crazy.

[q0192837465]

However, we're a long way off, since the majority of us can't even decide to stop killing each other over who's invisible sky daddy is the best.

hahaha, God, that made me LOL

[Orion]

wow, with so many galaxies... there's bound to be life form somewhere

[Shun Izaki]

i call your bluff and raise you a temperary ban!

I'll raise you that permaban that everyone's got an itchyfinger for!

[Timewav3zer0]

damn...i have 3 essays due tmr and i spent 2 hours watching that journy to the end of the universe...really amazing how small we really are compared to everything else xD