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: HDMI cables 1.2 vs 1.3


wasabisashimi
04-23-2009, 12:09 PM
Went to NCIX and saw their HDMI cable for sale at 12.99$, this compare to the HDMI cables sold at Futureshop for $50+, of course naturally I thought it was a good deal.


So i asked the NCIX geek squad leader, whats the difference of their product vs futureshop rip-off. He said there is no difference except futureshop sells 1.3 hdmi and NCIX is 1.2 version.


He couldn't tell me whats the difference of 1.2 vs 1.3. So before I spend my money, can someone explain to me?

I am planning to use it with a Blue Ray player, and PS3, Also I run these components through my yamaha receiver model 6140 and then pass video signal to my Plasma. (everything needs to be hdmi)

Manic!
04-23-2009, 12:32 PM
1.2 certified cables were produced and certified before the 1.3 spec was out.
NCIX also sell 1.3b spec cables.
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=62549J22&vpn=GHDMI1002W6&manufacture=IOGEAR%20TECHNOLOGY

I would get my cables from monoprice.com if a need more than 1 or 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDw2ZSDzlMw

wasabisashimi
04-23-2009, 12:55 PM
very nice video showing the dirty sales trick at FS and BB, however, it doesnt explain the difference of 1.2 vs 1.3

Manic!
04-23-2009, 01:24 PM
very nice video showing the dirty sales trick at FS and BB, however, it doesnt explain the difference of 1.2 vs 1.3

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI

Cman333
04-23-2009, 03:07 PM
www.mxmart.com

$12 HDMI 1.3a

q0192837465
08-26-2009, 12:12 PM
bump, so to play PS3, do we need 1.3a? From what I read in wiki, the cheapest 1.0 will do for BluRay.

Experts plz chime in

Cman333
08-26-2009, 12:45 PM
Any HDMI will work for PS3

1.2 vs 1.3 vs 1.4 is explained in that wikipedia link

If you don't understand what they're saying....basically the higher the numer(ie. 1.4) the newer the technology. HDMI 1.0 is first gen HDMI and was only tested to do so much. As technology get better, the demand on the cable is higher so they make it better.

From what I remember the only major diff between the old and new is how thick a guage the wires are inside the cable.

I would buy a 1.3a or 1.4........

The cables basically cost the same anyways

unit
08-26-2009, 01:27 PM
monoprice.com

best place to get cables

q0192837465
08-26-2009, 01:45 PM
Any HDMI will work for PS3

1.2 vs 1.3 vs 1.4 is explained in that wikipedia link

If you don't understand what they're saying....basically the higher the numer(ie. 1.4) the newer the technology. HDMI 1.0 is first gen HDMI and was only tested to do so much. As technology get better, the demand on the cable is higher so they make it better.

From what I remember the only major diff between the old and new is how thick a guage the wires are inside the cable.

I would buy a 1.3a or 1.4........

The cables basically cost the same anyways

Do I need separate cable for sound? or is the HDMI tranmit both video & sound?

Eclypz
08-26-2009, 01:54 PM
They are all backwards compatible, so the higher version, the better.

Go with 1.3a or higher.
You don't want to buy new HDMI cables everytime you upgrade your equipment.

1.4 is the newest

Eclypz
08-26-2009, 01:57 PM
Do I need separate cable for sound? or is the HDMI tranmit both video & sound?

HDMI can carry sound and audio...but you should make sure your amp supports it.
Some of the "lower-end/older" amps don't allow both video and sound via HDMI

SkinnyPupp
08-26-2009, 05:48 PM
You do NOT need 1.3 unless you require the ability to decode Deep Color and x.v.Color formats, neither of which are supported by Blu-Ray (which is 8-bit). Some Blu-Ray players will upsample to support these, but then you need a TV that supports them as well. And if your TV supports them, it can probably upsample anyway.

So bottom line is, 1.3 is pointless right now. If the price is more than $0.01 higher than a 1.2 cable you find, get the 1.2.

Manic!
08-26-2009, 05:52 PM
They are all backwards compatible, so the higher version, the better.

Go with 1.3a or higher.
You don't want to buy new HDMI cables everytime you upgrade your equipment.

1.4 is the newest

Older cables will just fine with 1.4. Nothing physically has changed on the way the cables are build.

Mugen EvOlutioN
08-26-2009, 07:53 PM
same shit diff day

Eclypz
08-26-2009, 11:47 PM
You do NOT need 1.3 unless you require the ability to decode Deep Color and x.v.Color formats, neither of which are supported by Blu-Ray (which is 8-bit). Some Blu-Ray players will upsample to support these, but then you need a TV that supports them as well. And if your TV supports them, it can probably upsample anyway.

So bottom line is, 1.3 is pointless right now. If the price is more than $0.01 higher than a 1.2 cable you find, get the 1.2.

1.3 supports Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD, which is pretty common in today's Amps and BDs
OP's amp won't support those audio modes, but if he ever upgraded his amp down the road, why buy new cables?

StylinRed
08-27-2009, 12:52 AM
From what wiki says, if you're going to bitstream dolby truehd and dts-hdma you'll need a 1.3 hdmi cable



hdmi 1.4 adds an ethernet channel so that you don't need an ethernet cable as its run through the hdmi cable... however there is no hardware out that supports this yet so its useless

SkinnyPupp
08-27-2009, 02:36 AM
1.3 supports Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD, which is pretty common in today's Amps and BDs
OP's amp won't support those audio modes, but if he ever upgraded his amp down the road, why buy new cables?
You don't need to use bitstream, it can be passed as PCM over any HDMI cable, with no loss in quality. In fact if you have a PS3 other than slim, you need to it that way anyway.

In any case, you shouldn't be spending $12 on an HDMI cable, 1.2 or 1.3 or whatever. Get a 1.3 cable from Monoprice (http://www.monoprice.com/products/subdepartment.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240) for $2.50 USD (and up, depending on length). Anything more is a stupid waste of money.

hotjoint
08-27-2009, 06:47 AM
i get my hdmi cable from ebay. I find that I can get them for cheaper then on monoprice

SkinnyPupp
08-27-2009, 07:41 AM
Do you really need to spend less than $2.50 for a cable? :lol

underscore
08-27-2009, 08:07 AM
^ if people feel the need to try and go lower wtf are they connecting? :haha:

twitchyzero
08-27-2009, 08:40 AM
i'm happy with my 12ft 1.3b netted w/ copper ends for $16

Preemo
08-27-2009, 02:24 PM
i get my hdmi cable from ebay. I find that I can get them for cheaper then on monoprice

Wow. You must be Mr.Cheapo.

JesseBlue
08-27-2009, 02:45 PM
try and testing it by spending the 10 bux for those two cable (if you buy it from monoprice)...just like the link, you will not know the difference..oh yah..even superstore sells hdmi for 10 bucks nowadays

!Aznboi128
08-28-2009, 09:36 AM
if your buying anywhere else other then monoprice (or a price close to that) then your getting ripped off

q0192837465
08-28-2009, 09:44 AM
thx guys, just got 2 1.3a cables from monoprice for $6 a piece (including shipping).

hotjoint
08-28-2009, 09:46 AM
Wow. You must be Mr.Cheapo.

:D

JG35
09-22-2009, 12:45 AM
the newer your entertainment systems are, best bet to get the newer cables aswell

StylinRed
09-22-2009, 02:43 AM
you can buy em off of amazon sellers for like $3 including shipping ;)