[RayBot]

Just was brought to my attention.

I know it gets mixed reviews over here...but just in case, just thought it may be significant to people here...

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/05/01/hydroxycut.fda.recall/index.html

not just the american product, also goes for whats been distributed in Canada as well

http://www.vancouversun.com/Health/feds+warn+dieters+Canadian+Hydroxycut+weight+loss+ product+citing+serious+liver+damage/1555124/story.html

[hal0g0dv2]

ya i heard about this on the radio today
liver damage or something ?

[RayBot]

yeah...thats what the article says....but according to the article, these cases were a couple years back. Don't know how recalls work, but wondering why the recall wasn't sooner.

[SkinnyPupp]

They don't even know which ingredient is causing a problem... What's the point of a recall then?

[RayBot]

they recalled the entire line...not just a few of their products.

Wouldnt that be the entire purpose of the recall? Because they don't know the ingredient thats causing it?

[Meowjin]

this is why you should stick to ECA without the A.

[mc25]

Good rid dins IMO.

[SizzleChest]

this is why you should stick to ECA without the A.

or better yet, diet and exercise...

[Timpo]

it's a bit off topic, but

I take NX Labs Ripped Hardcore

would it damage my liver?

[hal0g0dv2]

it's a bit off topic, but

I take NX Labs Ripped Hardcore

would it damage my liver?

yep

[Timpo]

yepseriously?

[RayBot]

seriously?

Well, why not?

These thermogenics all has the same main ingredients that make em work.....different portions, different manufacutrer, same health advisory.

[Timpo]

Well, why not?

These thermogenics all has the same main ingredients that make em work.....different portions, different manufacutrer, same health advisory.hmm ok that sucks

i should think twice for my next purchase on Ripped Hardcore.

[XxFcukxX]

Well.. there goes my liver

[Meowjin]

or better yet, diet and exercise...

no man you have it all wrong. I clearly lost all my weight without diet and excersise, I was just popping the ECA stack sitting at home and eatting cheeseburgers.

[RayBot]

no man you have it all wrong. I clearly lost all my weight without diet and excersise, I was just popping the ECA stack sitting at home and eatting cheeseburgers.


Haha...yeah. I guess we all need to reminded about common sense.

[Timpo]

Well.. there goes my liver
so what substance is causing liver damage?

how about other products? like...nitric oxide stuff?

Superpump 250, Dymatize Xpand, ISS Satur8, NO Xplode, Muscle Prime, Biotest Surge, etc...

[7seven]

so what substance is causing liver damage?

how about other products? like...nitric oxide stuff?

Superpump 250, Dymatize Xpand, ISS Satur8, NO Xplode, Muscle Prime, Biotest Surge, etc...

You should stop taking NO products because they are a giant waste of money and pointless.

[Timpo]

You should stop taking NO products because they are a giant waste of money and pointless.

I feel pretty good pump when I take them tho?

[Adsdeman]

All these pills are usless if u really want to loose weight and have lots of energy its a little substance called cocaine!

[7seven]

I feel pretty good pump when I take them tho?

NO is all marketing bs hype, all you are doing is lightening your bank account on something useless. Just stick to eating right, protein, a good MV and fish oil, if you're taking NO for the perceived pump or energy, just get enough good carbs during the day for energy and water.

[RayBot]

I feel pretty good pump when I take them tho?


OMG....that pretty good pump that you feel is a testosterone enhancer that some of those NO stuff uses. You learn it in Biology in the 10th grade; if you increase your levels of testosterone, you will also increase your levels of estrogen as well.


At the end, you're going to look really REALLY good. You're going to be looking at your brand new tits all day.

[Timpo]

ok I found this article saying that NO won't work
http://buildingbodies.ca/exercise/does-nitric-oxide-work/

but have you guys tried those NO supplements tho? I was skepticle about it, but when I tried it, I was amazed how I can actually feel the pump.

Is it only because of some other chemical in it like RayBot said?

[RayBot]

Did u actually really feel the pump?? Or did it feel lighter because you just lost 80 bucks?

Testosterone enhancer is not a chemical...its a hormone booster; kinda like drugs.


Gotta figure....what else is gonna enhance your metabolism?

Black coffee does the trick....and it opens blood vessels and thins blood at the same time; thats more than what NO does. And considering one of the things that NO does is increase blood flow, avoid deep fried foods. Green tea extract is only 6 bucks a bottle, and that stuff works natural wonders...for me at least. Even a good rest before workout will do the trick.

[Timpo]

Did u actually really feel the pump?? Or did it feel lighter because you just lost 80 bucks?

Testosterone enhancer is not a chemical...its a hormone booster; kinda like drugs.


Gotta figure....what else is gonna enhance your metabolism?

Black coffee does the trick....and it opens blood vessels and thins blood at the same time; thats more than what NO does. And considering one of the things that NO does is increase blood flow, avoid deep fried foods. Green tea extract is only 6 bucks a bottle, and that stuff works natural wonders...for me at least. Even a good rest before workout will do the trick.
I don't feel the buzz kind of energy by drinking coffee.

also I heard that the caffaine will make your blood vessels smaller? but NO will make it bigger...so they're kinda counteracting eachother. that's what i heard.

[RayBot]

Well then...this is where you stop asking for advice and start doing research from sources with better credibility than revscene. God honest truth if you're downing these kind of ingredients into your system.