[AVS_Racing]

its 3 in the morning cant sleep, just thinking about my next project haha

i need suggestions of cars that are fast, light, cheap ( on a student budget) so price range would probably be from $0-5000 MAX. I would also like insurance to be cheap cuz i dont have roadstar yet.

requirements

Manual only!!
light weight, il probably strip it out
LHD preferred.
and easy to find parts.


i currently have EG6 civic, AE86, or Miata on my mind.

might also want EG9 but then i dont really need the space, and its extra weight. the prob with 86 is its pretty old and hard to find one in decent condition. and the miata looks gay, and i dont know if its easy to tap power out of this car and the availability of parts. but yea the way it looks is the biggest problem.

what other cars are there? and discuss :thumbsup:

[Rikaro]

are you going to swap? If not the miata 1.8L is pretty decent.

If you are, then I'll get the 92-95 civic hatch

[Blinky]

From what I've seen, it's easier to add power to Civics and Miatas (lots of turbo or SC kits for these cars) than tofumobiles.

The Miata and AE86 should be more fun to drive.

[BNR32_Coupe]

AW11 MR2

[Bender Unit]

Miata is gay...
then

Mazda MX5 Roadster - great handling RWD car

[hk20000]

^ good call.

Mustang 5.0 /end thread

[sonick]

I am biased, but Miata. It's not fast, but it definitely feels quick. I notice it's mostly young asian guys, or older white people (both male and female) that drive 'em.

Also if you're looking to seriously add power, Vancouver has one of the leading Miata specialists well-known in Miata circles worldwide, Ocean at Chikara Motorsport.

Insurance for my Miata (commute under 15k) is only $110/month; 23 y/o male.

What about an IROC-Z? I hear those handle pretty well stock as well. Also lots of power.

[Lomac]

Honestly, 5.0 Fox-body mustang.

[Shun Izaki]

Honestly, 5.0 Fox-body mustang.

+1, def cheapest way to get power.

But, what fun is a fox-body mustang? XD nothing like that cheap <$5k DIY honderrr projekt car :D

[hk20000]

no it's more fun with that <$5K Mustang project car.

[!Aznboi128]

mustang body with rb26 engine :D

jokes aside mustang/miata is the way to go mustang will handle the power while miata would be great for autox

[Blinky]

Good call guys.

Foxbody 'stang: if you wanna do the strip (mullet not included)
Miata: if you like to drive (leather "costume" not included)

The MR2 suggestion is a cool one as well.

[Shun Izaki]

if you wanna screw around, lots of JDM imports are less than $5k...get a GC8 or something :)

[heleu]

Get a MR2 - looks and handles better than anything else you listed.

[shenmecar]

EG6. =D

[BNR32_Coupe]

Fast (and light), cheap, reliable.

^ Pick two

[124Y]

A 240SX is nice

[AVS_Racing]

hm.. im not a fan of domestics, and i head mr2 head gaskets are a bitch to do cuz the whole engine has to be dropped down. and most jdm cars i see are either shit condition or overprice or suspiciously low priced haha

[sonick]

A 240SX is nice

But near impossible to find a low-mileage one with no rust (esp at strut towers), that hasn't been abused.

[ilvtofu]

saab 900 turbo

[03aspec]

Honestly, 5.0 Fox-body mustang.

yup, parts are cheap and easy to find. theres a huge aftermarket for them.

[hk20000]

a kei truck so you can be the next China drift king.

[apharmdb]

I had the same issue and settled on a Corolla GTS. Mainly because of how good the community is around here. Lots of knowledgeable people and parts made locally. Currently running a 1985 GTS Coupe as a track car and it's been a blast. Certainly not the fastest car I've owned but it is the most fun.

I considered the other cars on your list as well but also had the E30 BMW on it. Had one before and remembered how expensive it was to maintain and modify compared to the other cars on the list. Last car I'd think about is an FB RX7. Owned one of these as well. Very fun but not so hot in the reliability dept. Best of luck with your search.

EG was dropped from my list early on due to being FF. It can certainly be fast but I am looking more for fun that pure lap times these days.

[koukimonst3r]

But near impossible to find a low-mileage one with no rust (esp at strut towers), that hasn't been abused.

I got mine from my co-worker and it's been babied since the day he got it which was way back in 1989.

[thumper]

Good call guys.

Foxbody 'stang: if you wanna do the strip (mullet not included)
Miata: if you like to drive (leather "costume" not included)

The MR2 suggestion is a cool one as well.

why not have both?

http://www.bishopsales.com/monster_miata_for_sale.html

http://www.monstermiata.com/Admin/FTPSite/CarPhotos/Ken%20H%20engine%20comp3.jpg

[Blinky]

In honor of your post thumper, I shall now call Monster Miatas "Brokeback Miatas".

They're manly, but ultimately gay.

(Miatas are awesome regardless).

[JSALES]

MR2

[SumAznGuy]

So you want to buy a car for under $5K. What is your budget going to be to modify the car?

What do you intend to do with the car? AutoX? Track? Drag? trailer queen? rust away in your drive way?

Answer these questions before you can decide on what type of car you may want.

AE86's may seen fun, but finding a rust free car is going to be tough.
Miata's are light and aftermarket support is plentiful.
What about a CRX or EF Civic? JDM Civic with a B16?

[k20a]

You prefer a LHD, yet you have an EG6?

[apharmdb]

AE86's may seen fun, but finding a rust free car is going to be tough.



Lol - how about near impossible, unless you import from Cali or AZ perhaps. I agree it is a super fun option, the most fun car I've ever owned without a doubt. But it did take me 8 months to find a bone stock coupe without a sun roof. And even then I have rust on the rockers to deal with.

[death_blossom]

those cars you are thinking of aren't really "fast". for 5k or less, I would suggest a gen1 Talon TSi.

[LenovoTurbo]

An Integra.

[1exotic]

Eclipse GSX if you can find one for 5000 maybe?
has turbo and 210hp to come with it...


civics are getting old, really old.... but still good cheap cars..

[bcrdukes]

AW11 MR2

Biggest POS in the history of all cars.

[AVS_Racing]

hm... probably jsut street use, maybe track it once in a blue moon lol. well 5gs depending on what it is obviously im not goin to spend 5gs on a stock 86 or EG. but yea 5gs obviously does not include mods. and il probably not be swapping it or turboing it just some light weight go kart untill i can afford something more powerful.

[El Bastardo]

Biggest POS in the history of all cars.

+1. I had a buddy with one and he had nothing but trouble.

[sonick]

Fast (and light), cheap, reliable.

^ Pick two

He has picked two; he asked for Fast/Light and cheap, never said anything about reliable.

I got mine from my co-worker and it's been babied since the day he got it which was way back in 1989.

Lucky... I said NEAR impossible, not impossible :thumbsup:

[Shun Izaki]

Biggest POS in the history of all cars.

I hate to hi-jack the thread.

but for those who know more about SW20's. I'm interested in looking around for one for a friend... project car, reliable/cheap

[Mister Donut]

Get a '73 to '78 Honda Civic for $600, take $4,400 and give it to Justin. Don't waste any money on paint, stereo or a fancy interior and I gah-ron-tee you'll have a fast car.

Insurance will be cheap.
It will have to be manual
It is already light weight, and you can make it even lighter if you strip it out.
I doubt you will find a RHD version so LHD it is.
The only problem may be it might not be that easy to find parts when you break them.

[hk20000]

^ are you sure that a EF Civic wouldn't be better than that 73-78 bs? Costs about the same too....

[Mister Donut]

^ are you sure that a EF Civic wouldn't be better than that 73-78 bs? Costs about the same too....

Yeah, but the SB is lighter. Haha, you'll probably die instantly in a car accident.....but it's lighter.

[Iceman-19]

Motorcycle

[!LittleDragon]

Fast (and light), cheap, reliable.

^ Pick two

From my own experience, back in the day, the Mustang 5.0 was all 3. Not sure about now if they're still holding up 10 years later but all 3 can be had if you know where to look.

[hk20000]

Yeah, but the SB is lighter. Haha, you'll probably die instantly in a car accident.....but it's lighter.

I buy proper suspension geometry over a lighter chassis any day of the week.

[Sileighty_180sx]

Weld two motorcycle together !!!

[Iceman-19]

From my own experience, back in the day, the Mustang 5.0 was all 3. Not sure about now if they're still holding up 10 years later but all 3 can be had if you know where to look.

You can find orignal 5.0s for less then 3k, but usually not in the greatest shape. On the other hand, if you do your homework, and have the mechanical knowhow, you can pick up a 4 cyl Mustang for 100-500 bucks, and a complete 5.0 drivetrain for 1500ish. $2500 for mods is alot. I know of a vortech supercharger that is for sale right now for 1500 bucks, and then spend 500ish on fuel upgrades, then 1000 into the suspension, and it will actually handle. spend some on the braking as well, haha. There is alot of stuff that is different on the 4cyl stangs from the V8s, but it all swaps over and bolts right up.

[Shun Izaki]

Weld two motorcycle together !!!

or he can buy two shitboxes, a FWD EG, and a RWD AE86 or sth, and use a rubber band and make an AWD MONSTER!

[billboa]

ide pick a rx7 fc or a 240sx. front wheel drive is boring as fuck after uve been in RWD cars.

mayb and thats a big mayb a swapped or turboed civic/crx

[CivicTypeRice]

^^ Beat me to it. I would also recommend FC RX7, they are cheap! fast! and reliable??

[tofu1413]

85+ 944S.

[Iceman-19]

LOL. RX-7.......and reliable.......in the same sentance. HAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH

[synchrocone]

its 3 in the morning cant sleep, just thinking about my next project haha

i need suggestions of cars that are fast, light, cheap ( on a student budget) so price range would probably be from $0-5000 MAX. I would also like insurance to be cheap cuz i dont have roadstar yet.

requirements

Manual only!!
light weight, il probably strip it out
LHD preferred.
and easy to find parts.


i currently have EG6 civic, AE86, or Miata on my mind.

might also want EG9 but then i dont really need the space, and its extra weight. the prob with 86 is its pretty old and hard to find one in decent condition. and the miata looks gay, and i dont know if its easy to tap power out of this car and the availability of parts. but yea the way it looks is the biggest problem.

what other cars are there? and discuss :thumbsup:

Early 90's Suzuki Swift? Can recall back in the mid-nineties on Sportsnet with some races at the Ontario Motor park. It was really just between David Empringham's M5 versus the up-and-coming Audi with its quattro system. Although the Swift was getting lapped it was nice looking back to see it still buzzing around.

Although regulators and administrators still seem to control the line, it would be nice to see the concept Nissan Endo come to fruition.

[Inaii]

^^ Beat me to it. I would also recommend FC RX7, they are cheap! fast! and reliable??

FC's aren't that reliable. Actually let me rephrase. If you don't take care of them, they aren't reliable. The 1st gen's are small, quick and have the potential to have a lot of power under the hood if you do a swap. The stock 12a doesn't have a lot of power, but it gets the job done and is great for a daily. Like someone said before, what are you planning on doing with it? (sorry if I missed it).

And FB's are more reliable than the newer generations and the parts are easier to find (as long as it isn't the GSL-SE suspension >< god damn it). So my vote is the FB =]

[ChyahGT]

just go get yourslef a jdm mr2. learn to drive on the right!