[StylinRed]

VANCOUVER (NEWS1130) - Vancouver City Council has approved 'option three' of the Burrard Bridge bike lane trial, meaning drivers will lose one lane on the bridge. Council voted to designate the southbound curb lane and the northbound sidewalk for bike traffic only. Pedestrians in both directions will use the southbound sidewalk--which will be pedestrian only.

A trial run of the arrangement will start in June. The trial re-allocation of the west curb lane of the Burrard
Bridge will be between Cornwall Avenue and Pacific Street. City staff will implement a number of modifications to the configuration and operation of the road network downtown and south of False Creek.

Three options were considered, including one which would have closed one lane in each direction.

http://news1130.com/more.jsp?content=20090507_165638_9728

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[hung_low]

dumbest shit ever

next big story will be car vs bike on burrard bridge, car wins

[greendb7]

yeah this is some stupid shit
I don't want to hear people bitch about a person being killed riding a bike on that bridge now, cuz they were asking for the extra lane on that bridge

[m4k4v4li]

what afucking joke

[snowball]

honestly burrard bridge south doesnt need 3 lanes anyways, it's never congested, only the ends are

[ijoined]

honestly burrard bridge south doesnt need 3 lanes anyways, it's never congested, only the ends are

obviously you dont work downtown.

[shenmecar]

we lost 2 lanes last time for some marathon. i wont be complaining

[Ch28]

I give it 2 weeks before some cyclist gets run over because they think they own the road.

[orange7]

next we'll loss another lane for birds flying at ground level

[impactX]

Which one of you retards voted for Gregor Robertson? :lol

[carisear]

Which one of you retards voted for Gregor Robertson? :lol

and the whole vision/cope parties.

[The_AK]

Lets protest to get a wheelchair accessible lane as well. There has been a growing trend of wheelchair users and I believe we need to let our wheelchair operators have a designated lane for their safe mobility around the streets of Vancouver.

[Synaptik]

Lets protest to get a wheelchair accessible lane as well. There has been a growing trend of wheelchair users and I believe we need to let our wheelchair operators have a designated lane for their safe mobility around the streets of Vancouver.

dont stop there; motorcycles should get their own lane as well.

[Volvo-brickster]

we lost 2 lanes last time for some marathon. i wont be complaining

uh...that was 1 day, and on a weekend

you won't say that when you take the bridge twice a day 5 times a week during rush hour

[Ikkaku]

too bad it's not feasible to do a counter-critical-mass, not to mention it'd be illegal for the drivers :(

[r-b-x]

not surprising... no sympathy for bikers on a car forum

my concern is, come winter time, there won't be many bikers and it'll be a huge waste

[Wongtouski]

this is awesome from a comedic perspective.

i like how the government tends to provide "solutions" by creating more problems

and man we gotta spend an extra 1.5mil for this? great.

[MarkyMark]

Glad I never take that bridge, maybe every biker should get a complimentary bottle of water as they cross the bridge too

[k20a]

Next thing on the news, is going to be car hit biker lane. LOL

[danned]

one lane, for car
one lane, for wheelchair
one lane, for bikes
one lane, for truck
one lane, for motorcycle
one lane, for.....geese walking+flying

etcs

[StylinRed]

yea motorcycles should be able to take the cyclist lane ;)

[Spaceship_coupe]

So this will start in June eh...oh wait a second, it conveniently starts during bike month.:rolleyes:

[Mananetwork]

I'd say it's a good way to convert some of the lazy downtown commuters to cyclists.

[Liquid_o2]

Should be interesting to see how this works.

I'm wondering if more people will bike across the bridge now... only time will tell if this is successful or not.

[TekDragon]

Wait, didn't we try this a few years back and it failed almost immediately?

[The_AK]

one lane, for car
one lane, for wheelchair
one lane, for bikes
one lane, for truck
one lane, for motorcycle
one lane, for.....geese walking+flying

etcs

i hope u ment one lane split for cars traveling back n forth,
I think a lane for skateboarders is necessary as well as people dressed in 1800s suits wearing funny hats
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[Qmx323]

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Why, Rutherford! This new lane for us gents is surely a convenience!
I do say however, old chap, the lane for the gents on the bi-cycles is quite idiotic, I'm expecting many a deaths from this. Jolly day to you all.

[Telehead]

If you vote for NDP, more of this type of socialist/hippie idea will become reality.

The only reason VISION won was because nobody cared about the municipality election except for those lefty po sci students and their 420 friends who think it's time for them to make a difference.

[WakeMeUp]

If you vote for NDP, more of this type of socialist/hippie idea will become reality.

The only reason VISION won was because nobody cared about the municipality election except for those lefty po sci students and their 420 friends who think it's time for them to make a difference.

Unfortunately, I think you're right. Robertson had this as one of his things to do, and I actually posted about it in the election thread here. I hope you guys complaining didn't vote for COPE or Vision. If the NPA was in, this wouldn't be happening.

[Ch28]

i hope u ment one lane split for cars traveling back n forth,
I think a lane for skateboarders is necessary as well as people dressed in 1800s suits wearing funny hats
http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/00012/00012CEB.jpg

Why, Rutherford! This new lane for us gents is surely a convenience!
I do say however, old chap, the lane for the gents on the bi-cycles is quite idiotic, I'm expecting many a deaths from this. Jolly day to you all.

you just made my day with that post :bowrofl:

[maxx]

I'd say it's a good way to convert some of the lazy downtown commuters to cyclists.

i couldn't agree more. I have started to cycle myself (cept without the gay vests). However, robbing BB of 1 lane will be nightmare. Its already packed to the point of explosion. And in case those government knobs haven't noticed, our population is going up, but our infrastructure was made for the 1960s.

BB is my favorite bridge in GVRD.

Well, was. :(

[goo3]

If you vote for NDP, more of this type of socialist/hippie idea will become reality.

The only reason VISION won was because nobody cared about the municipality election except for those lefty po sci students and their 420 friends who think it's time for them to make a difference.

The Olympic thing got leaked and ppl needed someone to blame. Now, the nutjobs are in charge. I swear, ppl spend more time thinking about what they want for dinner than they do before casting a ballot.

[03aspec]

buy an international cxt and run over all the bike driving hippies. end story.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

what the motherfucking fuck man

city of vancouver obviously dont know wat the fuck they are doing.


People drives pretty fucking fast on burrad, and u wonna sacrifice a lane just for the fucking downtown retarded bikers? fuck that shit, they dont follow signs nor signals. They cross when its red, than take up a lane turning left thinking they pedal to the metal will get them to ride above 20km. Just get the fuck out of my way. U aint powered by 1000cc motor, you are powered by your uselss two legs with those whimpy muscles of yours.

:rolleyes::rolleyes:


i cant wait till someone gets hit, that will change the city's mind

[BNR32_Coupe]

I give it 2 weeks before some cyclist gets run over because they think they own the road.

2 weeks? dude, that shit happens right now. cyclists are exempt from EVERY rule on the road, they can do w/e the fuk they want. if you hit one, they're always the victim, and you're the evil bad driver

[Rogue951]

I'd say it's a good way to convert some of the lazy downtown commuters to cyclists.

It won't convert any amount of people worth this whole project for.

Think about it, you bike to work esp in summer you sweat. What kind of environment is downtown? Business/offices WITHOUT shower arrangements.
So everyone's going to go into work sweaty now? How about their briefcases and such? backpacks don't fit the professional look. Even if they could do without the shower, they would have to bring a change of clothes because unless you live IN downtown biking over the bridge in non athletic clothes is stupid. If you're biking within downtown the bridge change is pointless.

Where would people store all their bikes? People already stupidly tie them to poles near the curb or parking meters, I've seen large cars paralleling into spots crush bikes cause they don't see them and the tail goes over the curb when they pull in.

I drive that bridge almost every morning rush/afternoon rush for my job. Morning rush hour isn't too bad, traffic moves, but come 5:00pm (give or take an hour) going IN to downtown becomes a parking lot. The right lane onto pacific is packed and so is lane 2 because people try to cut into the right lane onto pacific at the last minute.
And that's a NORMAL night. Nights when there are big events like hockey games and concerts it's even WORSE.

So this whole take a lane out for bikes is stupid and will solve NOTHING and waste money that could be better spent somewhere else.

Besides, have people SEEN how wide the sidewalk is on that bridge??? it's almost as wide as the seawall path. it's wider than city street side walks.
you could get another lane maybe 2 out of the side walks if they weren't there.
And as the news has said, no one, not even cyclists think it's a good idea.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

2 weeks? dude, that shit happens right now. cyclists are exempt from EVERY rule on the road, they can do w/e the fuk they want. if you hit one, they're always the victim, and you're the evil bad driver

exactly....there are so many times i see the light is still red and the fucking cyclist is taking off. i was tempted to do the same thing as him and cut him off, he must be thinking HOLLY FUCKING SMOKEY BBQ this guy just ran a red light!!! u bad bad driver!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

cars behind me must think of me as a douche bag ricer who ran a red, and if they spot a cyclist running a red? meh....just another biker..who gives a fuck.

everytime i see a cyclist who cant wait for the light to go green, i get excited hoping the fucker gets hit by a car and run over like a pancake with cherry red honey syrup splatter all over than we got ourself a JACKPOT

[!Yaminashi]

The fuck? Who the hell is making the decisions in this city?
Get rid of that dumbass ASAP plz

kthxbai

[hung_low]

WHAT!!! no lane for the boats? FUCK THAT!!

think of all the semen coming in and out of downtown

[Shun Izaki]

Burrard bridge IS pretty big,but it can be packed. I miss driving as fast as I horribly could down that thing at 3am... good times...

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

and scream out


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:thumbsup:

[taylor192]

obviously you dont work downtown.
I travel that bridge often, if it were setup like Lionsgate with a lane that alternates direction, all would be fine.

Plus when the Cambie bridge is back up to normal, and construction done on Granville all will be fine.

[taylor192]

exactly....there are so many times i see the light is still red and the fucking cyclist is taking off. i was tempted to do the same thing as him and cut him off, he must be thinking HOLLY FUCKING SMOKEY BBQ this guy just ran a red light!!! u bad bad driver!!! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

cars behind me must think of me as a douche bag ricer who ran a red, and if they spot a cyclist running a red? meh....just another biker..who gives a fuck.

I think bikers that run reds are just as dumb as drivers.

They can get a ticket just like a car for running the red. They don't cause there's not a lot of police to catch them. You could run reds all day (except the intersections with cameras) and probably never get caught too.

[taylor192]

I drive that bridge almost every morning rush/afternoon rush for my job. Morning rush hour isn't too bad, traffic moves, but come 5:00pm (give or take an hour) going IN to downtown becomes a parking lot. The right lane onto pacific is packed and so is lane 2 because people try to cut into the right lane onto pacific at the last minute.
And that's a NORMAL night. Nights when there are big events like hockey games and concerts it's even WORSE.
Since they are closing the WEST lane (ie from downtown) then there should be no problem since the west side of Burrard bridge has far less congestion.

[taylor192]

Parking is so ridiculous downtown I don't drive it anymore. If I visit friends downtown I bike from Kits.

Its a 20 min bike ride going at a slow pace, hardly enough to even break a sweat.

[Shun Izaki]

Parking is so ridiculous downtown I don't drive it anymore. If I visit friends downtown I bike from Kits.

Its a 20 min bike ride going at a slow pace, hardly enough to even break a sweat.

holy quadruple post batman.

[taylor192]

holy quadruple post batman.
There was a lot of bad info to respond to :thumbsup:

[+Kardboard+]

Which one of you retards voted for Gregor Robertson? :lol

and the whole vision/cope parties.
Don't get me started on those tree-huggin', Happy Planetin', silly left-wing'd arrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhalskghal;kghalk
i hope u ment one lane split for cars traveling back n forth,
I think a lane for skateboarders is necessary as well as people dressed in 1800s suits wearing funny hats
http://images.encarta.msn.com/xrefmedia/sharemed/targets/images/pho/00012/00012CEB.jpg
You are a hero among men.
There was a lot of bad info to respond to :thumbsup:
LEARN TO MULTI-QUOTE. It's not hard. See? I just did it. =_=

[+Kardboard+]

It means you post non-sense, cause posting this really added a lot to the discussion.

You're in Kits, so yeah, biking to Downtown would actually be quite nice. I'm just not sure that making a bike lane is the wisest choice. Commuters in four-wheel whatcha-ma-callits already have one heckuva time trying to get into Downtown and biking isn't necessarily something convenient for everyone. It may not be a good thing, but hey, that's the way things are right now. I just don't see businesspeople biking to work in their suits, working up a sweat, or maybe muscians biking with a guitar and an amp and..yeah. Mind you, I do know some people Downtown that bike to work, head there early and chang into their power suits, but not everyone has that luxury of time.

Bike lane? Compounds the problem as it is right now. You want less people to drive into the melting mess that is Downtown traffic? I suggest you look at transit first.

[taylor192]

You're in Kits, so yeah, biking to Downtown would actually be quite nice. I'm just not sure that making a bike lane is the wisest choice. Commuters in four-wheel whatcha-ma-callits already have one heckuva time trying to get into Downtown and biking isn't necessarily something convenient for everyone. It may not be a good thing, but hey, that's the way things are right now. I just don't see businesspeople biking to work in their suits, working up a sweat, or maybe muscians biking with a guitar and an amp and..yeah. Mind you, I do know some people Downtown that bike to work, head there early and chang into their power suits, but not everyone has that luxury of time.

I used to keep a change of clothes in my cubicle, its not hard to do.

Musicians, are you for real? There are more fast food workers downtown than musicians, who cares about the exceptions, debate the rule.

Time isn't a luxury, its a choice. In my case, I actually save 20-30 mins biking downtown.

Bike lane? Compounds the problem as it is right now. You want less people to drive into the melting mess that is Downtown traffic? I suggest you look at transit first.
Driving was such a headache I switched to my bike. Sometimes the problem has to get big enough before people consider changing.

[q0192837465]

God, I take that bridge almost everyday cuz I have to get to UBC after work. The traffic is bad already. I take Pacific blvd & turn onto Burrard bridge. With one lane gone, I might not even make it to class on time. Thank you stupid hippies.

[+Kardboard+]

I wish time was a choice for me. :(

Do you have to go deep into Downtown for work? I could see how you would save time by biking around all those clogged cars. Hmm...from the article:
It's a $1.5 million dollar solution that isn't supported by either side, and had cycling advocates in the crowd heckling councillors. Drivers are also upset about expected traffic delays due to one less southbound lane. But for legal reasons, the city had to make a move to protect the lives of cyclists heading across the bridge.So no one likes this solution? :lol $1.5 mil spent on it, not huge within the context of the City's budget, but still significant. They don't say how long the trial is meant to last, do they? :lol

[q0192837465]

OK, Captain Intelligent! :thumbsup:

I wish time was a choice for me. :(



Time is not a choice for me too. I take the bus, i'll definitely be late. I bike, i might as well go home cuz i'll get to UBC when classes end. The only option I have is to drive (and HOPE traffic is good so I can be on-time).

[maxx]

everybody dedicate an xtra hour in your life to jam that bridge up and sit in the traffic, so their test phase fails and we could get our lane back.

[taylor192]

Do you have to go deep into Downtown for work? I could see how you would save time by biking around all those clogged cars. Hmm...from the article:
So no one likes this solution? :lol $1.5 mil spent on it, not huge within the context of the City's budget, but still significant. They don't say how long the trial is meant to last, do they? :lol
Don't get me wrong, I think the solution is dumb too. I just hate people whining about traffic. If you hate traffic, move, shorten your commute.

I bike perfectly fine on the current paths without incident. Any "tourists" walking I make sure to slow down for.

This is really what the cyclists are complaining about, having to slow down for pedestrains. Big deal, I also have to slow down for them on the Granville, Cambie, and Oak and Knight st bridges, there's just more on the Burrard bridge. The only difference is those other bridges have a barrier between traffic and the path.

I don't understand why a metal railing cannot be added to separate path/road. It'd be 2" wide, either mounted on the path taking away 2" from pedestrians/cyclists, or mounted on the curb taking away 2" from traffic. The curb is high enough for traffic not to jump up onto the path, the railing would only have to prevent pedestrains/cyclists from falling into traffic.

[slammer111]

Hopefully this will shut up all those idiots in Critical Mass.

To be honest, what needs to be improved is the flow directly to and from the bridge. That would solve half the traffic problems, even if we drivers lose a lane.

[hung_low]

I travel that bridge often, if it were setup like Lionsgate with a lane that alternates direction, all would be fine.



you obviously do not understand how traffic flows.

the reason why the lion's gate bridge works is because there are strips on both the north and south side of the bridge to absorb the congession (the stanley park causeway and the exits on the north). what's on either ends of the burrard street bridge? the bridge will become a complete parking lot when both ends of the bridge are red lights.

so to respond to your comment, NO IT WON'T BE FINE

[goo3]

Don't get me wrong, I think the solution is dumb too. I just hate people whining about traffic. If you hate traffic, move, shorten your commute.

I bike perfectly fine on the current paths without incident. Any "tourists" walking I make sure to slow down for.

This is really what the cyclists are complaining about, having to slow down for pedestrains. Big deal, I also have to slow down for them on the Granville, Cambie, and Oak and Knight st bridges, there's just more on the Burrard bridge. The only difference is those other bridges have a barrier between traffic and the path.

I don't understand why a metal railing cannot be added to separate path/road. It'd be 2" wide, either mounted on the path taking away 2" from pedestrians/cyclists, or mounted on the curb taking away 2" from traffic. The curb is high enough for traffic not to jump up onto the path, the railing would only have to prevent pedestrains/cyclists from falling into traffic.

No man, they're just tree huggers who have a thing against cars. This is more about sticking it to drivers than it is about their safety. It's like arguing on the internet with a moron who has his mind made up. If you give those guys a solution that works better, they'll just make up another excuse until they argue you down to get what they want.

[achiam]

There should be a protest where people with trucks park in the bike lane, or at least park semi trailer rigs

[taylor192]

you obviously do not understand how traffic flows.

the reason why the lion's gate bridge works is because there are strips on both the north and south side of the bridge to absorb the congession (the stanley park causeway and the exits on the north). what's on either ends of the burrard street bridge? the bridge will become a complete parking lot when both ends of the bridge are red lights.

so to respond to your comment, NO IT WON'T BE FINE
The southbound entrance to Lionsgate from is poorly designed and causes backups, there's signs on the #1 to tell you about it.

The south end of Burrard works great, its the north end that does not work, and there's not much a solution for it since the traffic congestion that ends up on Burrard is from other streets being backed up, and if you haven't noticed, all those buildings makes it a little hard to add more lanes downtown.

[taylor192]

No man, they're just tree huggers who have a thing against cars. This is more about sticking it to drivers than it is about their safety. It's like arguing on the internet with a moron who has his mind made up. If you give those guys a solution that works better, they'll just make up another excuse until they argue you down to get what they want.
Have you seen the pics of people who have been pushed out into traffic?

I think you're very much wrong, since there's no complaints about Lionsgate, Granville, Cambie, Oak, and Knight bridges all which have shared bike/pedestrian paths.

[carisear]

exactly HOW BUSY is burrard st. bridge anyways for cyclists? i've been driving over that bridge 2-4 times per day, everyday for the past 10 years. i never see any problems. there are 10 to 1 cars for every pedestrian, and 10 to 1 pedestrians to every cyclist that i see. (in summertime). in wintertime i hardly see anyone on the sidewalks.

also, as a taxpayer, 63 million to make a new sidewalk seems excessive, but worth it considering they are spending 1.5mil on a freaking STUDY. one that they conducted 10 years ago.

ALSO, i thought all bridges fell under the jurisdiction of the province?

[goo3]

Have you seen the pics of people who have been pushed out into traffic?

I think you're very much wrong, since there's no complaints about Lionsgate, Granville, Cambie, Oak, and Knight bridges all which have shared bike/pedestrian paths.

I'm saying those other cyclists want to close down the lane out of spite rather than find a rational solution, sort of like the whole Critical Mass thing.

Unless I misread ur last post where I think you said safety wasn't a huge deal.. a barrier would do the job. That makes sense to me.