gordan campbell selling bc rivers

[FS1992EG]

I was reading this article about what Gordan Campbell is doing to BC's rivers

http://www.straight.com/print/12380

I don't know why we still vote for liberals to be in power and running our government, there just two faced in my opinion.



If you remember this picture, its really classic,the moron is smiling too!, I don't know why the public didn't make him step down as premier Glen Clark did in the past.

I know the NDP's past of the fast cat ferries which is their Epic Fail but really the NDP are safer, I rather have the Fast cat ferries, lower tuition for secondary schools, more teachers in schools, better waiting times are hospitals, and better medicare that the liberals are cutting by the way and making us pay for services/treatment out of pocket even though we pay 54 dollars a month which is supposed to cover us.

Than privatizing the rivers so we pay more for hydro, building shit bridges, selling BC rail, getting drunk in Hawaii, doing nothing about gangland shooting, slapping wrists on career criminals, NDP hands down are a much better choice to run BC right now.

Seriously Gordan Campbell announced that the 10 lane bridge connecting Surrey and Coquitlum is going to finished 1 year early, WTF... I don't think that anyone from the public has approve that design. First I would add solar panels to form a roof over the bridge to produce solar power to power BC homes, I would also add thermal elements in the payment of the bridge to prevent black ice one cold days and melt snow in the winter months. I would also add 3 bullet train rails connected under the new bridge to connect us with the bullet train route that is proposed to come to Vancouver from Seattle and Portland.

I just saw the thread about China's spending 32 billion on rail system and its just sick. When the Chinese international students come here to study, their just going to laugh at our poorly designed bridge and piss their pants at the cost of building it.

We already seen the New Convention Center in Vancouver and that was a epic fail. Its was over budget, no one seemed to care. Homelessness is still huge, Campbell said that their would be no homeless in Vancouver by 2010, that's not going to happen, failed.We as Canadians are a compassionate people and we need more social assistance for the drug addicted and less fortunate, he failed again. He widened the Sea to Sky Hwy pointless, they should have thrown a barrier in place to stop morons from crossing over the center line and killing innocent people who drive carefully. Patillo bridge is still here, still killing people, still no barrier, just cones in the center to make the bridge at a little more orange.

Oh, the board on Trans link is doing a really shitty job at the moment, I am all for having more buses which is great, cheap transportation, but the way the go about funding their pet projects is ridiculous, raising property taxes to fund those new bus, trying to add a new car tax to fund public transport. If half of people who drive a car to work shouldn't have to pay a new car tax to fund buses and other things Trans link is cooking up. They have car because its people's personal preference to drive cars, plus the insurance they pay, maintenance and general up keep. Having a car in Vancouver is pretty expensive, charging a tax is not a good way of raising money.

I think that if we don't pay attention on what Gordan Campbell is doing we are all going to be fucked.

[Derek_N84]

I would seriously consider moving out of BC if NDP came into power during this time of economic difficulty.

[El Bastardo]

$25.

Am I lowballing? Someone tell me if I'm lowballing

[dai3yuen]

Although, I hate Campbell, I do believe that the Liberals are what's best for BC at the moment. The current NDP does not have what it takes (read: Carol James).

That being said, I will be voting NDP as I do believe that the Liberals will win the election, but I think that a Liberal government with a strong NDP opposition is what BC really needs.

[taylor192]

There are so many things wrong with your post.

Originally Posted by FS1992EG

If you remember this picture, its really classic,the moron is smiling too!, I don't know why the public didn't make him step down as premier Glen Clark did in the past.

and the point of posting this way? more sensationalism?

Did you know if we held JFK to the same political standards we do today, he would have never been elected. Politics shouldn't be the popularity contest people like you make it out to be... and you're a fucking lefty who's suposed to be above that petty politics.

Originally Posted by FS1992EG

I know the NDP's past of the fast cat ferries which is their Epic Fail but really the NDP are safer, I rather have the Fast cat ferries, lower tuition for secondary schools, more teachers in schools, better waiting times are hospitals, and better medicare that the liberals are cutting by the way and making us pay for services/treatment out of pocket even though we pay 54 dollars a month which is supposed to cover us.

Health care has become a problem and NO PROVINCE HAS SOLVED IT including provinces with left governments.

I disagree with the lower tuition, university has become a haven to grads who obtain worthless degrees, and by your posts you haven't learned much from school, aka worthless.

Originally Posted by FS1992EG

Than privatizing the rivers so we pay more for hydro, building shit bridges, selling BC rail, getting drunk in Hawaii, doing nothing about gangland shooting, slapping wrists on career criminals, NDP hands down are a much better choice to run BC right now.

There's so much wrong here I need bullets:
- privatizing rivers is false, since the public wasn't doing anything with them in the first place
- the new bridges are awesome, its the streets the bridges cannot solve. You can put wider bridges, 2 bridges, ... yet unless you widen the city streets it will not help.
- why keep BC Rail? Lets here a good argument, since the US works very well with privatized rail, hell it built their country!
- why harp on the DUI again? more sensationalism cause you don't have much else to say
- follow the news, the increased police force made a bunch of arrests, seems to have worked unlike the lefties that wouldn't have done anything
- the lefties slap wrists and constantly block measures for tougher punishments federally, please keep up with Canadian politics
- the NDP are the worst choice right now, for all the above reasons and more

Originally Posted by FS1992EG

Seriously Gordan Campbell announced that the 10 lane bridge connecting Surrey and Coquitlum is going to finished 1 year early, WTF... I don't think that anyone from the public has approve that design. First I would add solar panels to form a roof over the bridge to produce solar power to power BC homes, I would also add thermal elements in the payment of the bridge to prevent black ice one cold days and melt snow in the winter months. I would also add 3 bullet train rails connected under the new bridge to connect us with the bullet train route that is proposed to come to Vancouver from Seattle and Portland.

I just saw the thread about China's spending 32 billion on rail system and its just sick. When the Chinese international students come here to study, their just going to laugh at our poorly designed bridge and piss their pants at the cost of building it.

Good ideas, do you have $32B to fund this? I don't, and the increase in taxes to cover such elaborate projects would hurt our pocketbooks.

Do you know how the Chinese pay for their infrastructure? Look it up and come back without such ignorant arguments.

Here's an example:
BC can build more public power plants, borrowing money and increasing taxes to pay for it. Or we can let private companies build them and charge us more for electricity to cover their costs. Either way WE ARE PAYING THE BILL via increased costs or increases taxes. Personally I'd rather increases costs, cause I can control how much I use, I cannot control how much the government takes from my paycheque.

Originally Posted by FS1992EG

We already seen the New Convention Center in Vancouver and that was a epic fail. Its was over budget, no one seemed to care.

It was over budget, yet its done and will be used. Cannot say the same of the fast ferries.

Originally Posted by FS1992EG

Homelessness is still huge, Campbell said that their would be no homeless in Vancouver by 2010, that's not going to happen, failed.We as Canadians are a compassionate people and we need more social assistance for the drug addicted and less fortunate, he failed again.

If the lefties would allow society to institutionalism the mentally ill, then homelessness might be defeated. Instead the left gave the mentally ill the right to accept government handouts while roaming the streets as prey for drug dealers.

We've tried the lefty solution to end homeless by catering to their needs, and it hasn't worked. We need a true "right" approach, not more homeless hugging left policies.

Originally Posted by FS1992EG

He widened the Sea to Sky Hwy pointless, they should have thrown a barrier in place to stop morons from crossing over the center line and killing innocent people who drive carefully. Patillo bridge is still here, still killing people, still no barrier, just cones in the center to make the bridge at a little more orange.

Pointless unless you consider the area served by the SeaToSky pumps a lot of money into the economy, and better serving that area should be a huge plus for the economy.

Perhaps Oak st needs a barrier down the middle too, since any street where cars can do 80+ will be a death trap. Or perhaps drivers should get proper tires and stop taking on their cell phone. I hate you lefties that think the government is responsible for forcing you into how to be safe.

Any personal responsibility seems to be missing from the left.

Originally Posted by FS1992EG

Oh, the board on Trans link is doing a really shitty job at the moment, I am all for having more buses which is great, cheap transportation, but the way the go about funding their pet projects is ridiculous, raising property taxes to fund those new bus, trying to add a new car tax to fund public transport. If half of people who drive a car to work shouldn't have to pay a new car tax to fund buses and other things Trans link is cooking up. They have car because its people's personal preference to drive cars, plus the insurance they pay, maintenance and general up keep. Having a car in Vancouver is pretty expensive, charging a tax is not a good way of raising money.

Dude, this is where you show your complete and utter stupidity. That's a CONSERVATIVE argument, not NDP.

NDP believes in taxing people to pay for public projects, thus increasing taxes on cars and houses to pay for public transportation. Perhaps you should look up your own NDP policies.

Please don't post anymore political opinions again, you're sadly misinformed ignorant sheep that just goes with what the media spoon feeds you. If this is the education my tax dollars subsidizes, I hope they triple tuition so people like you cannot attend school.

[taylor192]

Originally Posted by dai3yuen

Although, I hate Campbell, I do believe that the Liberals are what's best for BC at the moment. The current NDP does not have what it takes (read: Carol James).

That being said, I will be voting NDP as I do believe that the Liberals will win the election, but I think that a Liberal government with a strong NDP opposition is what BC really needs.

Please don't, the race is so tight that many Greens are considering voting NDP too, and we could very well have an NDP majority.

[Gridlock]

Taylor-Thank you! Beautiful post man.

I tend to feel that any party left in power is a bad thing as the sense of entitlement takes them beyond their mandate. Paul Martin Liberals are a great example.

Now is not the time to make that change.

Carol James needs to remember right now that everyone remembers the 90's. They created their own recession. We don't need to start them off with one.

[asahai69]

ill vote liberal cuz carole james is a dumb bitch with caterpillar eyebrows. i cant believe the moron wants to raise minimum wage to 10 bucks an hour. give me a break.


i wish there was a provincial conservative party.....................................

[beater240]

Originally Posted by asahai69

i wish there was a provincial conservative party.....................................

done. here you go man: http://conservativesbc.com/


but please still vote liberals, the last thing we need is to give the fucking ndp a chance.

I normally don't care about elections but this year i'll be taking unpaid time off work to go vote. I can't believe people are actually considering the NDP. Do that many people have such short-term memories? WTF! NDP???

[lilaznviper]

the homeless problem will never go away by just throwing more tax payers money at it

and after seeing how much we are going into debt with the NDP... more taxes i have to pay with an NDP government oppose to liberals

[quasi]

Originally Posted by Derek_N84

I would seriously consider moving out of BC if NDP came into power during this time of economic difficulty.

Maybe we could get a two for one on a moving truck I'd seriously consider going back to where I was born even though I've been here the last 20 years.

[bing]

Originally Posted by taylor192

There are so many things wrong with your post.
Please don't post anymore political opinions again, you're sadly misinformed ignorant sheep that just goes with what the media spoon feeds you. If this is the education my tax dollars subsidizes, I hope they triple tuition so people like you cannot attend school.

FS1992EG, short-sighted. oh and, failsauce.
please tell us how we are going to fund all your great ideas?
I mean if I had an unlimited money hack I would promise all the great things our province needs...
but really, where do we get the money?

[DarkOmenz]

Originally Posted by FS1992EG

I know the NDP's past of the fast cat ferries which is their Epic Fail but really the NDP are safer, I rather have the Fast cat ferries, lower tuition for secondary schools, more teachers in schools, better waiting times are hospitals, and better medicare that the liberals are cutting by the way and making us pay for services/treatment out of pocket even though we pay 54 dollars a month which is supposed to cover us.

Than privatizing the rivers so we pay more for hydro, building shit bridges, selling BC rail, getting drunk in Hawaii, doing nothing about gangland shooting, slapping wrists on career criminals, NDP hands down are a much better choice to run BC right now.

Wow all the reasons you made are from the NDP commercials, don't have a mind of your own? Did you watch some fox news and support Bush as well?

[asahai69]

Originally Posted by beater240

done. here you go man: http://conservativesbc.com/

ya. but they suck. lol. they gotta get their shit together before i vote for their asses. none of them even in my area. lol

edit. plus, voting for a party that has no chance of winning is just another vote for the ndp.

[Soundy]

gorDAN... lawl.

[WakeMeUp]

Great post Taylor192

Asahai69: I too wish there was a legit conservative alternative, but i doubt there will be in foreseeable future. Although I detest religion being an issue like in the States. I guess I'm a fiscal conservative.

Think back to the 90's. The whole world was booming. The technology revolution, headed by the internet, and the induction of the former states that were behind the Iron Curtain into the world economy were huge driving forces. Meanwhile, BC was in recession. Forget about the NDP being a poor choice now. They're a poor choice anytime.

[Lomac]

FYI, the BC Liberals are merely that in name. They're more Conservative than anything else.

[wouwou]

i dont like the liberal, but ndp made so many big promises that if elected bc will be taxed to death

[!Yaminashi]

On friday I was watching the news while I was in the kitchen, and there was a poll that said the Liberals still have something along the lines of 47% popularity or something.

I kinda thought to myself... Everyone always complains about the liberals yet they always get voted in.

We get what we deserve

[murd0c]

Originally Posted by Draft

On friday I was watching the news while I was in the kitchen, and there was a poll that said the Liberals still have something along the lines of 47% popularity or something.

I kinda thought to myself... Everyone always complains about the liberals yet they always get voted in.

We get what we deserve

right now the liberals are the lesser of 2 evils tho.

[wouwou]

Originally Posted by Draft

On friday I was watching the news while I was in the kitchen, and there was a poll that said the Liberals still have something along the lines of 47% popularity or something.

I kinda thought to myself... Everyone always complains about the liberals yet they always get voted in.

We get what we deserve

that's because NDP is worse in this case

[ctsport]

Only the lazy and stupid vote for NDP.

[Sunfighter]

I'v said this for awhile, if the NDP get elected I'll move back to the UK.

Conservative politics are safe.

NDP economics are not sound. It's always easy to sell the public on expanded health care, education, etc., but never do people ask who will be paying for it as these services are not free.

[wouwou]

^+1

it scares the crap out of me every time a NDP election ad comes on the radio, saying how many services will be added, and expenditures increasing.

Money doesnt grow on trees people.

[twitchyzero]

Working for the development office at UBC
i for one would not vote for liberals.

Tuition is rising annually at a very steady rate. The old gov't put a 10 year freeze on and the past 8 years the Liberals doesn't see it from a student's prespective.