[TheSalesman]

Is it me or has 94 octane gas dissapeared? The last 4 gas stations i'v been to did not have 94. All the petros seem to have stopped selling it. hmmm? maybe only chevron has it now.

[thumper]

other stations had 94 before? i always thought it was just chevron, at least here in BC :confused:

[Supafly]

other stations had 94 before? i always thought it was just chevron, at least here in BC :confused:

some of the newer petro-cans still have it....

its supply and demand...cheveron = win.

[TheSalesman]

other stations had 94 before? i always thought it was just chevron, at least here in BC :confused:

yeah most petros had it before. Husky also has 94 but I only goto petro and chevron for 94. Never filled up with husky before.

[Manic!]

Petro is getting rid of 94 and thats straight from one of there reps.
94 is a waste of money.

[originalhypa]

94 is a waste of money.

Sure, if you drive a low compression, naturally aspirated commuter car.
Put 91 octane in either of my cars, one which was tuned on 94 to 19psi with gobs of timing, the other, a high compression V8, and you'll be buying new motors soon.

94 has it's place. Your obtuse generalization reelks of ignorance and a lack of experience. Do us a favor and read more, post less.

[Shun Izaki]

94 oct is avail at most chevrons... bitch finding it in someplaces in the states tho...

[Manic!]

94 oct is avail at most chevrons... bitch finding it in someplaces in the states tho...
It's hard to find it in many places outside BC. There are no Chevrons outside BC in Canada.

[SumAznGuy]

There are some stations that still have 94 octane in Washington, and I think Sunco still have 100 octane, but those are becoming less and less.
I think Calif. went with 91 octane as being the highest grade available. There was a big discussion about this last year, IIRC.

And Manic is right. There is no need for 94 octane gas at the pumps. That's what home made octane booster is for. =P

[Rich Sandor]

Most people won't benefit from 94 octane. But most high performance sports cars REQUIRE higher octane fuel.

[DJ Milk]

Now that Petro Canada got rid of the 94 octane, I hate getting 91 octane from there since it's the same hose that the 87 octane is coming out of. So the first few liters of 91 octane I'm buying is actually 87 octane :eek5r:

[thumper]

yikes... i hope 94 octane dosen't go the way of the dodo because my car is chipped for it :o

[bcrdukes]

There are some stations that still have 94 octane in Washington, and I think Sunco still have 100 octane, but those are becoming less and less.
I think Calif. went with 91 octane as being the highest grade available. There was a big discussion about this last year, IIRC.

For California, 91 Octane is the highest octane pump gas available. There are some gas stations (76 comes to mind) that sell a higher octane for the Lancer Evo which I think is 98 or 10x octane but they come ONLY in a barrel.

[bcrdukes]

94 has it's place. Your obtuse generalization reelks of ignorance and a lack of experience. Do us a favor and read more, post less.

Sig'ed mutha' fucka! :D

[ilvtofu]

i feel so left out for using 89 :(

[shenmecar]

im sure chevron will still have 94

tho there isn't really a big need of it in the population anyways. ppl who use 94 brought it onto themselves by tuning their cars for performance.

Do you see more people with toyotas or turbocharged rice rockets?

[Shun Izaki]

im sure chevron will still have 94

tho there isn't really a big need of it in the population anyways. ppl who use 94 brought it onto themselves by tuning their cars for performance.

Do you see more people with toyotas or turbocharged rice rockets?

what about the people who bought hig hperformance vehicles that weren't monster tuned?

[yoall]

to bad for petro. I was a long time customer because of the petro points. Now im only going to Chevron for the 94 octane.

Hope thye dont get rid of it either.

[Volvo-brickster]

And Manic is right. There is no need for 94 octane gas at the pumps. That's what home made octane booster is for. =P

uh......i would only use that in a last ditch resort if there was no 94 octane, the best they had was 89 and i had about 19 bottles of octane booster to use

[Manic!]

Sure, if you drive a low compression, naturally aspirated commuter car.
Put 91 octane in either of my cars, one which was tuned on 94 to 19psi with gobs of timing, the other, a high compression V8, and you'll be buying new motors soon.

94 has it's place. Your obtuse generalization reelks of ignorance and a lack of experience. Do us a favor and read more, post less.


No manufacture requires or recommends 94 oct in North America even Ferrari requires 91 oct. If you have had your car tuned for higher oct that’s a different story. I bet 99% of the owners who put 94 oct in there car don’t have there cars tuned for 94 so it’s a waste. Many provinces and stated don’t even sell 93 or 94 oct.

If Chevron stops selling 94 oct or you move to another province what will you do?

I remember a Harley owner who was out of gas and afraid to put 91 in his bike because he was told it would only run on 94. I asked him do people own Harleys in California because the only sell 91 oct down there. The guy stood there with a confused look on his face, put in a few $ gas and rode to Chevron.

[TheSalesman]

If chevron gets rid of the 94, then there's still 92. Or would you go with the husky 94? lol

[bcrdukes]

Here's what I got in an e-mail from Petro Canada today:

Customer Service to me
show details 4:42 AM (5 hours ago)

Reply

Dear Mr bcrdukes,

Thank you for contacting Petro-Canada Customer Service. We appreciate your taking the time to write.

We are currently unable to serve you with gas and apologize for any inconvenience this may cause you. We are in the process of removing Super Premium 94, but we will continue to offer the other fuel grades.

Although we will no longer supply Super Premium 94 to the BC market, we feel that our Super 91 premium gasoline offers Canadian motorists what they need for their high performance vehicles. Super 91 is a high quality, top tier fuel that includes the Petro-Canada additive package to provide motorists with the premium gasoline they need for high performance vehicles.

If you still require Super Premium 94, some of our competitors offer the 94 octane product in BC (Chevron / Husky / Mohawk).

We appreciate your patronage and look forward to continue serving you.

Regards,

Tayo Ojuri
Petro-Canada Customer Service Network
1-800-668-0220 ext. 7187

[Timpo]

if you really wanna petro canada 94 octane, just buy chevron 94 and add tactrol in it. you'll have a petro canada 94.

but i heard that techron is better than tactrol tho.

[Manic!]

if you really wanna petro canada 94 octane, just buy chevron 94 and add tactrol in it. you'll have a petro canada 94.

but i heard that techron is better than tactrol tho.

Petro gas does not contain techron your mix would.

[shenmecar]

what about the people who bought hig hperformance vehicles that weren't monster tuned?

you mean exotics? As long as chevron has it, then its fine. Not like everyone has a ferrari and lambo. We aint in Monaco.

[Shun Izaki]

you mean exotics? As long as chevron has it, then its fine. Not like everyone has a ferrari and lambo. We aint in Monaco.

not even exotics... my landrover takes 94 oct! :O LOL

[Lomac]

not even exotics... my landrover takes 94 oct! :O LOL

NO vehicle sold in North America REQUIRES 94 octane. None.

[canucksfan]

My friend puts in 94 octane in her 2005 Corolla. I laughed......

Would it make ANY difference at all in a Corolla?

[Manic!]

you mean exotics? As long as chevron has it, then its fine. Not like everyone has a ferrari and lambo. We aint in Monaco.

Ferrari recommends Shell 91 oct V power gas.

[ilvtofu]

^^ it's actually worse to put 94 in the corolla

[Honyoung]

what octane should bikes use?
gas SOOOO expensive 1.12?! today
i still cant get over the fact that in dubai its 0.40/litre

[Mancini]

My Sentra is bone stock and it pings on 91 :(

[4doorVIP]

My friend told me to switch from 94 Techron to Shell 91 and I'm hooked.

[Lude S]

My Sentra is bone stock and it pings on 91 :(

your sentra is just a piece of shit and will ping with any gas in its tank. I would rather take the loser bus than a Sentra.

[Timpo]

NO vehicle sold in North America REQUIRES 94 octane. None.

:werd:

[orange7]

your sentra is just a piece of shit and will ping with any gas in its tank. I would rather take the loser bus than a Sentra.

chill dude...

[ilvtofu]

^yeah thats really mean, although my 2003 corolla had over 230,000kms on it and never pinged on 87, so I wonder why the sentra is that way

[bcrdukes]

Maybe he has a very old Sentra that was poorly maintained.

[Leopold Stotch]

^^ it's actually worse to put 94 in the corolla

theoretically it's worse.

it's hard trying to explain to people why they don't need to put 94 octane in their civics..

" BUT BUT IT"S FASTER, I CAN FEEL IT "

[some_punk]

NO vehicle sold in North America REQUIRES 94 octane. None.

GM recommends 93 for corvettes

[kent stacey]

NO vehicle sold in North America REQUIRES 94 octane. None.

im tuned on 94 ... i require it :p

[Mancini]

your sentra is just a piece of shit and will ping with any gas in its tank. I would rather take the loser bus than a Sentra.

lol

Maybe he has a very old Sentra that was poorly maintained.

'05 ser. Perfectly maintained.

[canucksfan]

theoretically it's worse.

it's hard trying to explain to people why they don't need to put 94 octane in their civics..

" BUT BUT IT"S FASTER, I CAN FEEL IT "

Why is it worse anyway? I need to educate her on this so she doesn't toss more money down the drain.

[Selanne_200]

Well I'm no expert on this but i'm sure it has something to do with: The octane rating in fuel represents the fuel's resistance to detonation, that's why some of the higher end cars with a high engine compression ratio needs a higher grade gas so it doesn't detonate too early (knocking). This is the part i'm not sure, but I think if you put in say 94 in a corolla, the fuel will not be lit up at the right time, therefore lowing your performance as well as having left over fuel in your cylinder.

[Rich Sandor]

^ yup.

If your car is meant to run on 87 octane, and you put in 94 octane, you will have unburnt gas in there because the 94 octane burns slower.

If your car is meant to run on 94 octane but you put 87, the gas will burn too quickly, and possibly cause detonation (knocking in the engine)

Now, some cars have knock sensors AND are able to advance/retard the timing automatically. For example the Lincoln MKS has hp ratings for regular octane and premium octane. (it's about 10hp difference for that car)

I was talking to the owner of super save gas last week, and we got to talking about "bad fuel" - a few things stuck in my head:

- It's very rare that a gas station's 94 octane isn't 94 octane. If tested, that's the MINIMUM that it must come back as. Most 94 octane fuel leaves the refinery at 97 or 98 octane to make sure that it's still 94 octane 6 months later when tested at the gas station. (the octane starts off real high, then drops fairly quickly, then plateaus)

- So when people complain of bad gas, it's unlikely unless the fuel has been sitting in the ground for a looooong time and / or there is significant moisture in the tank. Most gas stations will not caryy 94 octane if there isn't sufficient demand for it to be used up regularly.

- More common problems related to "bad gas" are water contamination. It's very likely that there is some water in your car's fuel tank - even if you don't think there is any, and even if you have run the tank empty.. there is probably still some water in the valleys and channels of the bottom of your fuel tank. The worst thing you can do in regards to fuel is run your car empty. Always keep a good 1/2 tank of gas in there.

[ilvtofu]

^ plus it saves money to buy the lower octane for a corolla so it's a win win...

[kent stacey]

^ yup.

If your car is meant to run on 87 octane, and you put in 94 octane, you will have unburnt gas in there because the 94 octane burns slower.

If your car is meant to run on 94 octane but you put 87, the gas will burn too quickly, and possibly cause detonation (knocking in the engine)

Now, some cars have knock sensors AND are able to advance/retard the timing automatically. For example the Lincoln MKS has hp ratings for regular octane and premium octane. (it's about 10hp difference for that car)

I was talking to the owner of super save gas last week, and we got to talking about "bad fuel" - a few things stuck in my head:

- It's very rare that a gas station's 94 octane isn't 94 octane. If tested, that's the MINIMUM that it must come back as. Most 94 octane fuel leaves the refinery at 97 or 98 octane to make sure that it's still 94 octane 6 months later when tested at the gas station. (the octane starts off real high, then drops fairly quickly, then plateaus)

- So when people complain of bad gas, it's unlikely unless the fuel has been sitting in the ground for a looooong time and / or there is significant moisture in the tank. Most gas stations will not caryy 94 octane if there isn't sufficient demand for it to be used up regularly.

- More common problems related to "bad gas" are water contamination. It's very likely that there is some water in your car's fuel tank - even if you don't think there is any, and even if you have run the tank empty.. there is probably still some water in the valleys and channels of the bottom of your fuel tank. The worst thing you can do in regards to fuel is run your car empty. Always keep a good 1/2 tank of gas in there.


thumbs up to you mister ... ive had the botom of the barrel gas from shell 91 and had clogged injectors blah... good way to tell if the gas is getting low at stations is that the pump is really slow compared to normal , when that happens i get the F outa there .



the best is when you see a redneck driving a 86 5.0 rustang throwing 94 in it with nos octane booster ...

[Shun Izaki]

^ yup.

If your car is meant to run on 87 octane, and you put in 94 octane, you will have unburnt gas in there because the 94 octane burns slower.

If your car is meant to run on 94 octane but you put 87, the gas will burn too quickly, and possibly cause detonation (knocking in the engine)

Now, some cars have knock sensors AND are able to advance/retard the timing automatically. For example the Lincoln MKS has hp ratings for regular octane and premium octane. (it's about 10hp difference for that car)

I was talking to the owner of super save gas last week, and we got to talking about "bad fuel" - a few things stuck in my head:

- It's very rare that a gas station's 94 octane isn't 94 octane. If tested, that's the MINIMUM that it must come back as. Most 94 octane fuel leaves the refinery at 97 or 98 octane to make sure that it's still 94 octane 6 months later when tested at the gas station. (the octane starts off real high, then drops fairly quickly, then plateaus)

- So when people complain of bad gas, it's unlikely unless the fuel has been sitting in the ground for a looooong time and / or there is significant moisture in the tank. Most gas stations will not caryy 94 octane if there isn't sufficient demand for it to be used up regularly.

- More common problems related to "bad gas" are water contamination. It's very likely that there is some water in your car's fuel tank - even if you don't think there is any, and even if you have run the tank empty.. there is probably still some water in the valleys and channels of the bottom of your fuel tank. The worst thing you can do in regards to fuel is run your car empty. Always keep a good 1/2 tank of gas in there.

I rmb reading somewhere that 94 oct is usually 96-07 oct, where as 87 tends to ship as 87 and go down from there....

[Hehe]

Talking about premium gas, I used to put only Chevron 94 in my 328i, then one day while running out of gas (the car was showing 0KM remaining) I went to Domo (too afraid of car stopping on me) and put 10 bucks in their premium (I think it was 92?) and I realize the car feels a lot more of power and roads where I usually do 10KM/L was doing 15KM/L on my console. (I'm pretty sure my driving habits didn't change in any major way, I still press lightly on the pedal)

From there on, I usually get 91 from Chevron but it still didn't feel the same as the one I got from Domo, next time I'm in Richmond, I will be visiting Domo again and see if it was just me..... :D

[Lude S]

NO vehicle sold in North America REQUIRES 94 octane. None.

GM recommends 93 for corvettes

Learn how to read, he said require....

GM recommnads, but its not needed.

[some_punk]

Learn how to read, he said require....

GM recommnads, but its not needed.

It acutally says it requires it for the z06, it is recommended for the camaro and trans am

[Lude S]

It acutally says it requires it for the z06, it is recommended for the camaro and trans am

not into domestics, wouldnt know and dont care. But didnt they stopped production of the Z06?

GM:haha:

[GordonTse]

NO vehicle sold in North America REQUIRES 94 octane. None.

GTR requires 93. i pumped one up with 94 husky(yes, husky sucks, its what gas cards we have)

[Shun Izaki]

GTR requires 93. i pumped one up with 94 husky(yes, husky sucks, its what gas cards we have)

Couple land rovers require 94. after filling two side by side 87/94, the 87 one knocked like shit. lol

[kent stacey]

husky/mohawk does not suck in fact in alberta you cand husky's that say chevron additives inside on the pumps ... i went from a 12.0 to a 11.6 being able to up my boost 4 pounds and through more timing at my motor just by switching from bunk ass shell 91 with nitrogen to husky 94

[Lude S]

husky/mohawk does not suck in fact in alberta you cand husky's that say chevron additives inside on the pumps ... i went from a 12.0 to a 11.6 being able to up my boost 4 pounds and through more timing at my motor just by switching from bunk ass shell 91 with nitrogen to husky 94

u are comparing 91 octane to 94, there is no comparision


Husky gas does suck, and it sucks more for u that u live in Alberta where there is no Chevron 94.......sucks to be u:haha:

[kent stacey]

u are comparing 91 octane to 94, there is no comparision


Husky gas does suck, and it sucks more for u that u live in Alberta where there is no Chevron 94.......sucks to be u:haha:


claiming that husky 94 sucks is a shitty statement ive had great luck with it so far ... i dont live in alberta i work there unfortunately .

sucks that you have aircare ...

[skyxx]

How does Husky/Mohawk gas suck? Please show information.

[Manic!]

Couple land rovers require 94. after filling two side by side 87/94, the 87 one knocked like shit. lol

So what do people in places like California were they have no 94 do?

[kent stacey]

So what do people in places like California were they have no 94 do?

they run meth kits lol

[Honyoung]

anyone here fill up at superstore?
lol my car is a 96 accord and i just fill up regular at superstore
dont worry though once i get new car ill be filling it with 91 =D

[MikesJo]

husky has 94.

[Lomac]

It acutally says it requires it for the z06, it is recommended for the camaro and trans am

From an actual Z06 technician:

All Z06's come with a recommendation for fuel with 93 octane. They can also handle E10 (gasoline with up to 10% ethanol added). The ECM is programmed for an ideal stoichiometric A/F ratio using 93 octane. Most OEM programs from the factory run too rich.

Running 91 octane will not hurt the engine. The ECM will pull timing (retard the spark) IF "knock" is sensed and you will loose a small amount of HP depending on how much timing is retarded. This usually will happen with the 91 octane under hard acceleration or at WOT on a very hot day (+90*) and during competition. It may do it under severe stop and go traffic on a hot day but you will not notice it.

Also, as per the factory manual:
f your vehicle has the 7.0L V8 engine (VIN Code E), use premium unleaded gasoline with a posted octane rating of 91 or higher. For best performance, use premium unleaded gasoline with a posted octane rating of 93.

GTR requires 93. i pumped one up with 94 husky(yes, husky sucks, its what gas cards we have)

For maximum performance, yes... 93 is probably required. But otherwise, it's the same for the GTR as it is for the Z06. 91 works without causing any issues, but the higher you can get, the better performance you'll get.

[Rich Sandor]

pretty much all *newer* cars that require 93 octane CAN RUN on 87 with auto-retarding timing.

The important thing to remember here is it will only retard the timing IF the knock sensor senses knock. You could have detonation causing excessive strain within the engine before the knock sensor is tripped.

[ShyGuy]

I got signifigantly worse mileage after filling up with Shell 91 octane in my M3. I only got 310KM/tank with Shell where as with Chevron 94, I got 380KM/tank

[Lude S]

claiming that husky 94 sucks is a shitty statement ive had great luck with it so far ... i dont live in alberta i work there unfortunately .

sucks that you have aircare ...

do i have to aircare:confused:? I didnt know i need to aircare a turbo diesel pick up:eek:

[BBMme]

someone I know who owns a gas station said all gas are the same.....:confused:
he even use the cheapest gas he can find on his CLS???

[BBMme]

^^^
and it runs fine, because I drove it=P

[skyxx]

^ Correct, because all gas has to meet a standard set by Transport Canada I believe.

[Rich Sandor]

someone I know who owns a gas station said all gas are the same.....:confused:
he even use the cheapest gas he can find on his CLS???

Any idiot can own a gas station.

[Govenator]

i use 94 with octane booster....i dont trust the sale of so called "94 octane", to many times in winter has the 94 octane not been 94 octane at all :(, cheaping out on the expensive stuff to make more profit!

[Rich Sandor]

i use 94 with octane booster....i dont trust the sale of so called "94 octane", to many times in winter has the 94 octane not been 94 octane at all :(, cheaping out on the expensive stuff to make more profit!

I'm gonna have to call you out.

What gas stations are you talking about and how did you test the fuel to determine it wasn't 94 octane?

[kent stacey]

i use 94 with octane booster....i dont trust the sale of so called "94 octane", to many times in winter has the 94 octane not been 94 octane at all :(, cheaping out on the expensive stuff to make more profit!

what exactly do you drive .. dont say a 5.0 L

[Great68]

Octane booster only raises your gas octane like 0.5 of a point. And it costs like $8 a bottle.

It's cheaper just to buy higher octane gas.

[Govenator]

I had multiple problems with my R32 GTR before with gas from chevron being 94, I would go petro can and to my surprise I would have no hesitation problems with their 94.

This problem also occured my STI i drive when it was winter, the map I run on it is tuned for 93 or higher, I was geting lots of hesitation at low rpms filling up with chevron 94, with petro though I had the same issue or it was a little less you could say. I did some research and know winter gases can be bad, but then again if you cheap out on the gasoline grade you cheap out.

Anyways all I am saying is 94+booster is the only way I fill up now, I dont trust most gas stations anymore, especially since these gas prices are ridiculous and they will do anything to make more of a profit. Plus it only costs me 20 extra bucks a month if I fill up four times during that month.

[Lomac]

Chevron 94 = Petrocan 94. Perhaps the station you had filled up had a leaky tank or you managed to get the dregs.

[Manic!]

i use 94 with octane booster....i dont trust the sale of so called "94 octane", to many times in winter has the 94 octane not been 94 octane at all :(, cheaping out on the expensive stuff to make more profit!

How did you test the octane in the gas???

[bcrdukes]

I'm gonna have to call you out.

What gas stations are you talking about and how did you test the fuel to determine it wasn't 94 octane?

Busted. :D

[MERXUS]

Sure, if you drive a low compression, naturally aspirated commuter car.
Put 91 octane in either of my cars, one which was tuned on 94 to 19psi with gobs of timing, the other, a high compression V8, and you'll be buying new motors soon.

94 has it's place. Your obtuse generalization reelks of ignorance and a lack of experience. Do us a favor and read more, post less.

owned! well said. i need 94 as well...

[kent stacey]

Any idiot can own a gas station.

LOL :haha:

[ecsw]

Husky gas contains 10% Ethanol that's what makes their gas different. Some call it E10 gas. To help reduce carbon monoxide emissions. California pass the law and all the gas stations required to sell E10 only.

Husky's lowest octane is 90 selling at the same price as other gas stations 87 octane. They have 90 and 94 and that's it.

Some claims E10 burns a little faster hence lower mpg from E10 gas. But it's compensated with higher octane #....

Just sharing what I know...

[Lomac]

Husky gas contains 10% Ethanol that's what makes their gas different. Some call it E10 gas. To help reduce carbon monoxide emissions. California pass the law and all the gas stations required to sell E10 only.

Husky's lowest octane is 90 selling at the same price as other gas stations 87 octane. They have 90 and 94 and that's it.

Some claims E10 burns a little faster hence lower mpg from E10 gas. But it's compensated with higher octane #....

Just sharing what I know...

E10 does burn faster because of the ethanol content. Ethanol itself is what gives Husky's gas a higher octane rating, but it's offset by the MPG rating.

[ecsw]

E10 does burn faster because of the ethanol content. Ethanol itself is what gives Husky's gas a higher octane rating, but it's offset by the MPG rating.

yes, but it's merely 10%. At the end, whole tank of gas with 10% ethanol that burns faster should be hard to notice.

I got this calculation from a fellow in RX8 forum.


Ethanol has about 70% the energy content of gas maybe a little less. So at a 10% concentration you will get about 97% the energy content of pure gas. This means about 3% less fuel mileage.

If you normally got 200 miles per tank fuel with pure gas you would drop to about 196 miles with 10% ethanol.

[ecsw]

Oh, btw, Husky and Mohawk is giving out $2.00 off 25 liters of gas. So, it's like $2 off $28 or so (8 cents off each liter).
Coupon is re-usable. So if you are closed to Husky, it might save you a little. But i you don't like them, just ignore it.

Don't get confused with the picture of the Husky MasterCard. You don't need to apply for anything.

http://www.myhusky.ca/home/coupon.html?upc=06018766068