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Giant man hole cover in parking lot ruined my exhaust. What to do?
davidhtam
05-23-2009, 12:54 AM
Thread title basically explains the whole thing. Here are pictures:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/davidhtam/PIC-0014.jpg
This things a fucking monster
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/davidhtam/PIC-0022.jpg
I had to jack my car up to take off the broken section so i could drive (open header) to my friend's house.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/davidhtam/PIC-0020.jpg
This is where i scraped
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/davidhtam/PIC-0016.jpg
Bent exhaust. I have more photos, but they're on a witness' camera phone. He has to email them to me.
Happened at Cambie Plaza in richmond (where dairy queen is)
To sum it up, i drove into the entrance of this parking lot and this man hole/storm drain ripped my exhaust off. It destroyed the flex pipe on my header, ripped off the mid pipe and crunched the axle back. I basically have to get a new exhaust setup.. header and everything.
A city/construction worker walked by and told me i can get reimbursed for the damages if i speak to the property manager and make a claim. Is this true? And if it is, what do i do? Do i call and talk to the property manager? Is there a claim form i have to fill out with the city? Anyone have some insight on my ordeal? My car is obviously lowered, but it's not slammed. To give you an idea, i can make it over lansdowne speed bumps without scraping. I just managed to go over this damn bump without any of my wheels getting any elevation.
impactX
05-23-2009, 01:21 AM
How low is your car? It doesn't look like a big bump at all.
eurochevy
05-23-2009, 01:22 AM
your the idiot that drove over it..and btw u lowered ur car so its ur responsibility..they gonna basically tell you since your car isn't factory height u don't count (since obviously if u were normal height or exhaust didn't hang down so low cause its aftermarket it wouldn't bend) sorry :haha:
davidhtam
05-23-2009, 01:28 AM
How low is your car? It doesn't look like a big bump at all.
I can stick about 2 fingers in between my tire and the fender so it's not extremely low. I've had my car inspected before and it passed the height regulation. I've even asked numerous officers if they thought my car was too low and they said it was fine.
The bump doesn't look that tall in the pictures, but remember, the area surrounding it is flat. I drove over it with wheels on either side. If it was a speed bump of the same height, i would've cleared it no problem since both wheels would be driving over the bump as well. Any other stock sports car would've had the same problem as me.. and when i say sports car, i mean something like an s2000.
eurochevy: i don't need to hear that from you dude. Put yourself in my shoes and think about how you'd feel after something like this. I know they're going to give me that bullshit. I'm looking for some advice here - cut me some slack, buddy. I feel like shit!
fliptuner
05-23-2009, 01:35 AM
Honestly, it's probably going to be a bigger ordeal than it's worth to try to get money out of the owner of the property.
I agree that it's higher than usual but probably as much as your car is lower. Thing is, the cover seems like it's not too high for any stock car to clear. Had it been a steep driveway, I don't think you'd be complaining - you would've just been more careful with your approach. Same thing here. If you thought there was a chance you'd high-centre, you probably should've just went around or driven one side on it.
Having said that, if you're adamant that it's too high, file a claim against the property owner. If the claim gets denied, there's always small claims.
GL either way.
I can stick about 2 fingers in between my tire and the fender so it's not extremely low. I've had my car inspected before and it passed the height regulation. I've even asked numerous officers if they thought my car was too low and they said it was fine.
The bump doesn't look that tall in the pictures, but remember, the area surrounding it is flat. I drove over it with wheels on either side. If it was a speed bump of the same height, i would've cleared it no problem since both wheels would be driving over the bump as well. Any other stock sports car would've had the same problem as me.. and when i say sports car, i mean something like an s2000.
eurochevy: i don't need to hear that from you dude. Put yourself in my shoes and think about how you'd feel after something like this. I know they're going to give me that bullshit. I'm looking for some advice here - cut me some slack, buddy. I feel like shit!
Damn... that sucks man... :( slow down next time!
dutch
05-23-2009, 01:41 AM
How low is your car? It doesn't look like a big bump at all.
i think the real question is, how low was your pos exhaust! :haha:
fliptuner
05-23-2009, 01:41 AM
Speed has nothing to do with it. It has do with the way he drove over it.
Speed has nothing to do with it. It has do with the way he drove over it.
The faster he drove over that thing , the more damage it would do to his car. I'm sure his damage would've significantly decreased if he drove a lot slower over it. May have been just a scratch unless something got caught onto the manhole cover's edge.
davidhtam
05-23-2009, 01:56 AM
Honestly, it's probably going to be a bigger ordeal than it's worth to try to get money out of the owner of the property.
I agree that it's higher than usual but probably as much as your car is lower. Thing is, the cover seems like it's not too high for any stock car to clear. Had it been a steep driveway, I don't think you'd be complaining - you would've just been more careful with your approach. Same thing here. If you thought there was a chance you'd high-centre, you probably should've just went around or driven one side on it.
Having said that, if you're adamant that it's too high, file a claim against the property owner. If the claim gets denied, there's always small claims.
GL either way.
True - i should've just went around, but the bump was right after a steep driveway that i turned wide on and the fact that i couldn't see it made it kinda unavoidable.
I agree that it's going to be a huge ordeal, but it's worth a chance. I wouldn't want anyone else making the same mistake i made. Perhaps this will cause them to fix the damn thing by making a speed bump or something.
If I am to make a claim, do i file through the city at city hall?
True - i should've just went around, but the bump was right after a steep driveway that i turned wide on and the fact that i couldn't see it made it kinda unavoidable.
I agree that it's going to be a huge ordeal, but it's worth a chance. I wouldn't want anyone else making the same mistake i made. Perhaps this will cause them to fix the damn thing by making a speed bump or something.
If I am to make a claim, do i file through the city at city hall?
I guess you learned your lesson the hard way :( I've been to gas stations with fuckin huge "bulges" on the ground bigger than the "monster" you've posted... good thing I haven't lower my car yet... still enjoying the stock height! :haha:
fliptuner
05-23-2009, 02:00 AM
The faster he drove over that thing , the more damage it would do to his car. I'm sure his damage would've significantly decreased if he drove a lot slower over it. May have been just a scratch unless something got caught onto the manhole cover's edge.
The way he described it, I figured the cover actually caught one of the flanges and took out everything behind it.
davidhtam
05-23-2009, 02:03 AM
The way he described it, I figured the cover actually caught one of the flanges and took out everything behind it.
I think the concrete before the cover caught the edge of my resonator and the rest of it dragged across the cover.
I think the concrete before the cover caught the edge of my resonator and the rest of it dragged across the cover.
Oh wow... I guess that's unavoidable unless you drive around it.
MikesJo
05-23-2009, 02:20 AM
Damn that sucks. Is it the property owner that you talk to or richmond city hall? I know if it was on the street it would be city hall.
Offtopic: Has anyone seen that manhole just off of knight and 57th street. It's on 57th street heading east. Damn is that one ever high. I'm lowered and I'm surprised I can go over it with it right in the middle of the car. Scares me each time though...
eurochevy
05-23-2009, 02:33 AM
just tryin to prep u dude cause like u said u know they gonna say stuff
ctsport
05-23-2009, 06:28 AM
Your exhaust is too big and too low, its your fault. Something similar is going to happen again somewhere else unless you change your car.
davidhtam
05-23-2009, 06:33 AM
Damn that sucks. Is it the property owner that you talk to or richmond city hall? I know if it was on the street it would be city hall.
Offtopic: Has anyone seen that manhole just off of knight and 57th street. It's on 57th street heading east. Damn is that one ever high. I'm lowered and I'm surprised I can go over it with it right in the middle of the car. Scares me each time though...
i know which one you're talking about. I don't have any problems with that one.
!Aznboi128
05-23-2009, 07:21 AM
ouch... that hurts should of aim at that height with the wheels bro!
but i doubt that DQ will do anything for you...
ilvtofu
05-23-2009, 08:23 AM
next time use the entrance ramp and drive so fast that you fly over the manhole...
oh wait... shocks...
Still sucks though, and whether it's worth hassle is up to you bro, but it's getting annoying to hear all these would've should've comments.
If you have the free time make the claim, not much to lose.
Volvoman
05-23-2009, 08:34 AM
Try driving over this thing.
http://members.shaw.ca/volvoman/index/Pictures/Car/!@%23$.JPG
Gutted the under carriage of my car (holes in the frame, bent exhaust and skid plate). Went to ICBC, they contacted landlord of the parking lot, he denied fault, went to City of Vancouver, they denied fault. Went back to the landlord, he went MIA so ICBC is sending a letter from collections to say pay or gtfo.
sigh
McDick
05-23-2009, 09:07 AM
well.. .there will be TONS of lawsuit against ALL shopping malls because they have speed bumps....
Good luck trying to claim your damage!
Leopold Stotch
05-23-2009, 09:16 AM
Damn that sucks. Is it the property owner that you talk to or richmond city hall? I know if it was on the street it would be city hall.
Offtopic: Has anyone seen that manhole just off of knight and 57th street. It's on 57th street heading east. Damn is that one ever high. I'm lowered and I'm surprised I can go over it with it right in the middle of the car. Scares me each time though...
i actually don't find that too big. even in my lowered 240sx, albeit it wasn't that low.
EuroTRASH
05-23-2009, 12:28 PM
any pics of the damage?
like
how destroyed is it? can it be repaired? if all it needs is $100 of welding, i wouldn't bother getting to carried away w/ getting your money back, but i guess contact the property manager and see what they say, and if you have pics of the damage to your car, that would probably help your case.
ur car sounds like its not too low.
what kinda of aftermarket exhaust did you get? is it full catback or weld on universal muffler type with custom catback? some muffler shops litterally try to just connect from point A to point B. and thus dont do the proper bends. ull end up with a catback that rides low, and if its a honda, usually the area behind the axle is the worse as its not a simple couple bends.
davidhtam
05-23-2009, 01:05 PM
I am running an ANR race header with 2.5" kteller mandrel bent piping, magnaflow resonator and hks carbon Ti muffler.
the kteller pipes are bent to factory specs and the exhaust doesn't hang extremely low. The lowest part is the resonator because the diameter is so large - it's also the part of the exhaust that got caught :(
Here are some pics of the damage:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/davidhtam/ex2.jpg
Me removing the broken piece
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v281/davidhtam/ex1.jpg
The portion that got ripped off (between the cat and the resonator)
I don't have a clear picture of the bent portion because it was too dark. I'm gonna have to go back to my buddy's place and take a picture with my real camera.
The flex pipe on my header is completely mangled and it's cracked on the first and second primary runners at the flange.
iamed
05-23-2009, 01:59 PM
Been to that diary queen parking lot and went past it with my lowered integra. That thing is not crazy high, I've seen worse but ya if you went through that right in the middle of your car it'll scrape.
AVS_Racing
05-23-2009, 05:30 PM
has any one even every been successful claiming against the city? like bent rims from shit paved roads?~@$@#$
ilvtofu
05-23-2009, 09:16 PM
hehe ^2 posts up says diary queen... thats what they used to call me when i was in gr 6...I'm a boy...FML
lolz jkjk
Marco911
05-23-2009, 09:22 PM
Your car is modified. You should just suck it up.
taylor192
05-23-2009, 09:47 PM
One less fart can!:thumbsup:
I cannot comment on your car without pics, yet there's a lot of improperly installed fart cans that sit stupid low just begging to be ripped off by a bump.
WHEYsted
05-23-2009, 10:22 PM
If your car didn't have such a big fart can and you didn't lower it. You wouldn't have gotten into this situation.
Timpo
05-23-2009, 11:09 PM
so...are you gonna fix it through ICBC?
tegman
05-25-2009, 12:54 PM
learn to drive! damn street racer!
lol
i hope icbc fix's it
Try driving over this thing.
http://members.shaw.ca/volvoman/index/Pictures/Car/!@%23$.JPG
Gutted the under carriage of my car (holes in the frame, bent exhaust and skid plate). Went to ICBC, they contacted landlord of the parking lot, he denied fault, went to City of Vancouver, they denied fault. Went back to the landlord, he went MIA so ICBC is sending a letter from collections to say pay or gtfo.
sigh
i think this is 10x more brutal than the op's exp and i think every1 here would agree that the property manager would have to pay or gtfo
just look at the way that metal plate is hanging...its almost like a spike strip...
volvoman mind telling us where this was??
Adsdeman
05-25-2009, 01:14 PM
Sorry bro but if ur car was factory height maybe the owner would do somthing, but i hate to say it i think this is ur fault man!
Volvoman
05-25-2009, 01:56 PM
i think this is 10x more brutal than the op's exp and i think every1 here would agree that the property manager would have to pay or gtfo
just look at the way that metal plate is hanging...its almost like a spike strip...
volvoman mind telling us where this was??
Sportmart on Broadway. This was during Winter. A city snow plow came thru and the shovel bent the thick metal plate up. I had to get a tow truck to lift and move my car off of the metal plate. I put a crate and a pylon from a nearby construction site so no one else would get pwnd.
Look how high that fucker is
http://members.shaw.ca/volvoman/index/Pictures/Car/sportmart.JPG
Its been 6 months and ICBC is still trying to find someone to accept blame. Since then, my insurance discount has gone down because this was considered a single car accident. I've also had to pay a few hundred dollars more this year for insurance...a couple hundred dollars I was supposed to have spent at Sport Mart on a jacket :cry:
To the OP, good luck but I doubt anything will be done except the blame game...and you'll always be the loser
donot521
05-25-2009, 02:06 PM
They need to pain that man-hole cover yellow with the black hazard lines running diagonally. Good luck to OP, cuz he needs it.
davidhtam
05-25-2009, 06:07 PM
They need to pain that man-hole cover yellow with the black hazard lines running diagonally. Good luck to OP, cuz he needs it.
Werd. If they do that without giving me a cent, i'd be happy.
elkayem
05-25-2009, 07:34 PM
Sportmart on Broadway. This was during Winter. A city snow plow came thru and the shovel bent the thick metal plate up. I had to get a tow truck to lift and move my car off of the metal plate. I put a crate and a pylon from a nearby construction site so no one else would get pwnd.
Look how high that fucker is
http://members.shaw.ca/volvoman/index/Pictures/Car/sportmart.JPG
Its been 6 months and ICBC is still trying to find someone to accept blame. Since then, my insurance discount has gone down because this was considered a single car accident. I've also had to pay a few hundred dollars more this year for insurance...a couple hundred dollars I was supposed to have spent at Sport Mart on a jacket :cry:
To the OP, good luck but I doubt anything will be done except the blame game...and you'll always be the loser
I'm kinda confused @ this picture.
fliptuner
05-25-2009, 07:57 PM
I'm kinda confused @ this picture.
If you read the graffiti it's Latin for "Don't drive over this cone. Evil lurks here."
Soundy
05-25-2009, 08:08 PM
If you read the graffiti it's Latin for "Don't drive over this cone. Evil lurks here."
Awesome translation :D
elkayem
05-25-2009, 08:36 PM
If you read the graffiti it's Latin for "Don't drive over this cone. Evil lurks here."
Wow, both you and the photographer is talented for being able to read that. =D
Sportmart on Broadway. This was during Winter. A city snow plow came thru and the shovel bent the thick metal plate up. I had to get a tow truck to lift and move my car off of the metal plate. I put a crate and a pylon from a nearby construction site so no one else would get pwnd.
Look how high that fucker is
http://members.shaw.ca/volvoman/index/Pictures/Car/sportmart.JPG
Its been 6 months and ICBC is still trying to find someone to accept blame. Since then, my insurance discount has gone down because this was considered a single car accident. I've also had to pay a few hundred dollars more this year for insurance...a couple hundred dollars I was supposed to have spent at Sport Mart on a jacket :cry:
To the OP, good luck but I doubt anything will be done except the blame game...and you'll always be the loser
holy fuck that is fucking high i can see even cars on stock height getting pwned on that thing...good luck dude
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