[truong]

Hi there

Im planning to purchase a 00 Porsche Carrera 2, I believe it is the 996. Are there any problems anyone knows of? The car has 92xxxkm on it and has an aftermarket supercharger

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/cto/1161535437.html

Thanks guys!

[racerman88]

nice car. I would probably check with a porsche forum though

[FS1992EG]

expensive 9 year old car! ebay it and export it over to canada, our dollar is getting stronger http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-C4S-PORSCHE-SILVER-BLACK-LOW-MILES-CLEAN-W-EXTRAS_W0QQitemZ330333985958QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ Cars_Trucks?hash=item4ce9709ca6&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A317|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1308

[Timpo]

expensive 9 year old car! ebay it and export it over to canada, our dollar is getting stronger http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-C4S-PORSCHE-SILVER-BLACK-LOW-MILES-CLEAN-W-EXTRAS_W0QQitemZ330333985958QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ Cars_Trucks?hash=item4ce9709ca6&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A317|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1308
porsche 911s hold value very well

it's not like gm, ford or chrysler

[JackyJai]

You will have a hard time selling it afterward.
It got 02 facelift conversion which you might need to make sure it doesn't have a front end collision.
I rather take a stock 996 instead of this one.

[10W-30]

Apart from the car itself, have you researched on where you're going to get the car serviced? Where you're going to buy parts?

Porsches have always been quite reliable (in terms of a true sports car) but with the aftermarket supercharger you better cross your fingers that nothing major will go wrong.

Good luck!

[kchan]

ed, hope u get it! that thing is gonna be fast!
but for the price it is.. a bit expensive.. considering the year n mileage, even though it has an S/C in it, but there are better options out there!

[.Renn.Sport]

porsche 911s hold value very well

it's not like gm, ford or chrysler

not 996, those things are worthless

42k for a 00 3.4L C2 is a ripoff.... i seen much lower milege facelifted 04 C2 with the 3.6L for less then that.

just spend more and get a 997.1.... 997.1 C2S is around 65k nowadays

[Meowjin]

ed truong?

lol

[ilvtofu]

yup don't get the 3.4, the facelifted ones look a lot better,

oh wait this guy converted it. (possible accident?)
I dunno if a supercharger would be particularly reliable.
Neways I'm not too fond of 911 cabs always been coupe for me.

and 92k is pretty high for a porsche,
I suggest keep looking, maybe even go for a newer boxster.
Although a 911 is still a 911 no matter what.

What's a "european suspension" I didn't even know there was a difference.
Don't most guys go for PSS or something if they're going to change it?

997s are actually a much nicer car, so if u can find one in the low-mid 50s take that instead. or save up for one. I've seen C4S coupes going for this price. so definitely keep looking for a better deal.
Unless those mods are your thing don't go for this one.

[vash13]

expensive 9 year old car! ebay it and export it over to canada, our dollar is getting stronger http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-C4S-PORSCHE-SILVER-BLACK-LOW-MILES-CLEAN-W-EXTRAS_W0QQitemZ330333985958QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ Cars_Trucks?hash=item4ce9709ca6&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A317|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1308

Sweet! I got the exact same rims for my car.

[dark0821]

oh shit.. ya.. check up on factory recalls and shit like that?

but one thing though.. servicing a 9yrs old porche will burn more than just a hole thru ur wallet...

let alone if a part on it breaks

[Rich Sandor]

Ed, we should talk. I've been looking at 996's pretty seriously and I've done a lot of research too. Not to mention I'm in the club and spend a lot of time talking to guys with 996's and they've told me what to look out for. In fact today I spent the whole day autocrossing two different 2002 996C2's!!!

[thumper]

mmm... power heated sport seats :thumbsup:

problems? rear main seal... google it. it's not pretty.

cozy up to an independent shop like weissach or scan automotive (there are others) and ask politely! i'm sure they will have plenty to say if you present yourself as a potential customer.

any more details on this supercharger conversion? sounds interesting.

i know it has BC plates but the scenery in the pics dosen't look like BC...

[asahai69]

http://www.achgohairithe.com/content/2008/03/smug2.JPG

[R-kOO]

expensive 9 year old car! ebay it and export it over to canada, our dollar is getting stronger http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2002-C4S-PORSCHE-SILVER-BLACK-LOW-MILES-CLEAN-W-EXTRAS_W0QQitemZ330333985958QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ Cars_Trucks?hash=item4ce9709ca6&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=72%3A317|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1308

i believe he was selling his 00 s2k for 40,000 also

it sounds about right ..

[truong]

ed truong?

lol

yes it is, and who are you?

[truong]

http://www.achgohairithe.com/content/2008/03/smug2.JPG

how is that being smug ?

[ilvtofu]

the whole convertible thing?

[asahai69]

how is that being smug ?

Future porsche driver

edit. p.s. Sorry To Say

[Meowjin]

yes it is, and who are you?

think of someone you beat with a baton in highschool.

[daval]

996 doesn't hold their values, unless you get a 996 turbo, GT3 or GT2~

[Harvey Specter]

Where's Macro?

[thumper]

Where's Macro?


macro? marco? polo? :lol

[97ITR]

think of someone you beat with a baton in highschool.

oh snap!

[dark0821]

porche.. hehe


one day....one day...

[truong]

think of someone you beat with a baton in highschool.

Hmm does not ring a bell sorry

[HonestTea]

think of someone you beat with a baton in highschool.

Hmm does not ring a bell sorry

:Popcorn

[Meowjin]

Hmm does not ring a bell sorry

it's cool, im over it. I had it coming alot of times.

[achiam]

think of someone you beat with a baton in highschool.

LOL

[trollguy]

996 doesn't hold their values, unless you get a 996 turbo, GT3 or GT2~

naaa.. the 996 turbos dont hold value at all.

you can pickup a well modded one for 80

[TypeERRR]

Majin= Andreas, from Lee. You kno him ed i guarantee.

[!Aznboi128]

:Popcorn

EXACTLY!

sadly didnt go that far...

[punkwax]

Porsche with a SC. Probably been babied :D

[MERXUS]

i just switched from sc lexus to porsche 03 -- i fu@#$ love it--rides, accellerates and looks 100 times better THAN my previous car.(any car ive had!)

BUY A PORSCHE YOU WONT REGRET THE RIDE QUALITY AND AMAZING INTERIOR DETAIL.
YOU WILL BE riding in truly unique exotic car.

PM me for info on mechanics -- unless you are planning to service the P. at MCL.


"I couldn't find the sports car of my dreams, so I built it myself."
Ferdinand Porsche

[thumper]

is this the same car???

http://bluestarmotors.com/index.php?m=showroom&carid=1806

[truong]

I've decided to hold on the 996 and save up for a 997 or exige, thanks for the input

[Timpo]

not 996, those things are worthless

42k for a 00 3.4L C2 is a ripoff.... i seen much lower milege facelifted 04 C2 with the 3.6L for less then that.

just spend more and get a 997.1.... 997.1 C2S is around 65k nowadays

ohh yeah...actually that's what a lot of people say...people hated 996's headlights

also a lot of Porsche fans prefer air-cooled engine

[tofu1413]

i never fancied the 996 either...

997 c2's i've seen them at about 55k or so...


then again... get a traditional air cooled 911: the 993. 993 C4S or C2S are sexy as fuck.

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/ctd/1215148693.html

http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2008-5/1311327/C4S1.JPG

[ilvtofu]

^

A stock one isn't be a bad daily either, If you ignore the complete lack of interior styling 993s are a perfect 10. They sell for more than equivalent 996s and it'll be that way for the rest of eternity, just because they are that much more raw and amazing. But it's got a much more casual look to it than previous 911, and looks way better than 964.

993s never have unsatisfied drivers,

[slickk6o4]

my cousin bought one in the states 06 carrera turbo for 35g's with 15000 miles on it, clean car, no accidents and shizzle. A 06 down there is at least 70-80g's

[ilvtofu]

^it's probably a carrera and not a turbo for 35G's but meh a 997 carrera doesn't have much appeal, minimum would be a C2S

[tofu1413]

^

A stock one isn't be a bad daily either, If you ignore the complete lack of interior styling 993s are a perfect 10. They sell for more than equivalent 996s and it'll be that way for the rest of eternity, just because they are that much more raw and amazing. But it's got a much more casual look to it than previous 911, and looks way better than 964.

993s never have unsatisfied drivers,



i've talked to a quite a few 993 owners that i bumped into at weissach.. and they all love their 993's. light mods and still plenty quick for a reliable daily driver.

993 C4S in arctic white is beautiful...

993 would hold its value the best: its the perfected air cooled 911 and would hold its value really really well (hell, you might even sell it for more than you bought it for)

[ilvtofu]

My dad has a 1995 993 Carrera and has owned it since day one, First yellow one in vancouver.

Exhaust note is amazing without a cat, sounds like a muscle car but has a german piston mechanical noise as well.

Wait till economy gets better these cars are gonna be worth some good money.

[Death2Theft]

Yeah nothing beats the sound of a widebody aircooled bug.

[tofu1413]

any air cooled 911 sounds awesome just driving by..... @_@


997's are nice too! 996's only make a good noise with the sport exhaust system... =/

[Death2Theft]

Amazing interior detail! Lol since thats Marco's favorite response to most things performance related, how about you post some of these amazing interior details to WOW us with how amazing and justified porsche interiors are since they make the most profit per car sold of *ANY* manufacturer bar none.

Keep in mind this is what your paying for
Porsche earns an average profit of $28,000 per vehicle sold. What this means is that with each Carrera that rolls off the lot, they have enough money to buy a couple of Pontiacs of their own.

That $28,000 figure “dwarfs the per-car earnings of virtually any other automaker.” By comparison, BMW makes about $3,200 per car, whereas Audi gets about $1,580. When you start looking at higher volume vehicles, the figure drops even further, with Chrysler only making $900 and VW netting $400.


i just switched from sc lexus to porsche 03 -- i fu@#$ love it--rides, accellerates and looks 100 times better THAN my previous car.(any car ive had!)

BUY A PORSCHE YOU WONT REGRET THE RIDE QUALITY AND AMAZING INTERIOR DETAIL.
YOU WILL BE riding in truly unique exotic car.

PM me for info on mechanics -- unless you are planning to service the P. at MCL.


"I couldn't find the sports car of my dreams, so I built it myself."
Ferdinand Porsche

[tofu1413]

uhh.. i think the sc's interior is better than the 03' 996's interior.. i hate to admit it.. materials are much better in the lexus.

[.Renn.Sport]

My dad has a 1995 993 Carrera and has owned it since day one, First yellow one in vancouver.

Exhaust note is amazing without a cat, sounds like a muscle car but has a german piston mechanical noise as well.

Wait till economy gets better these cars are gonna be worth some good money.

993 are already worth more then a 996

[.Renn.Sport]

996's interior wasn't all that bad with the full leather optioned

997 interior blows away any lexus in either plastic or full leather

[kchan]

any air cooled 911 sounds awesome just driving by..... @_@


997's are nice too! 996's only make a good noise with the sport exhaust system... =/

i love my 996 with the sport exhaust ;) sounds way too good ahaha
full leather is a must for 996 imo... sat in one with the crappy plastic.. its disgusting.. and the sport wheel too :thumbsup:

[ilvtofu]

Lol i remember this guy on the track who slid into a rocky gravelly area and his windows were open, and all the rocks fucked up his plastic interior

[tofu1413]

i love my 996 with the sport exhaust ;) sounds way too good ahaha
full leather is a must for 996 imo... sat in one with the crappy plastic.. its disgusting.. and the sport wheel too :thumbsup:

lucky man has sport exhaust :thumbsup:



non-sport exhaust equipped cars sound so... normal. =/

[achiam]

I've decided to hold on the 996 and save up for a 997 or exige, thanks for the input

Just a comment on the Exige. One of my friends in Vancouver bought a Elise two years ago. Its really annoying after the first two weeks. Everything about that car is focused on performance, so even rainy days were annoying as the rain drops seemed that much louder, not to mention exterior noise, the cramped space, the flimsiness of the doors - in short it feels like a toy.
Given the stop-and-go traffic in Vancouver rain, it definitely isn't a daily driver.

[ilvtofu]

^agreed, elise will never be a substitute for a 911 no matter how fast it is. well 993 and newer ones that is, cos they don't kill you as easily.

remember the GERMANS MAKE GOOD STUFF just ask this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwRISkyV_B8

[thumper]

i just bumped into someone at work next door who drives a 996. he said to search online for "996 intermediate shaft failure"...and hang on to your wallets! this also applies to boxsters that share the same engine.

(and yes his engine blew up because of this :o at 36k kms while under warranty lucky stars for him)

[JDMStyo]

So you're selling your leased bodykitted S2k for $40k and trying to get a 9-year old Porsche...

[ilvtofu]

i just bumped into someone at work next door who drives a 996. he said to search online for "996 intermediate shaft failure"...and hang on to your wallets! this also applies to boxsters that share the same engine.

(and yes his engine blew up because of this :o at 36k kms while under warranty lucky stars for him)

What engine might that be that is shared? 3.4?

[lonelydriver]

^agreed, elise will never be a substitute for a 911 no matter how fast it is. well 993 and newer ones that is, cos they don't kill you as easily.

remember the GERMANS MAKE GOOD STUFF just ask this guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwRISkyV_B8

Haha. I saw that commercial a few days ago and I couldn't keep my eyes off of it.

[thumper]

What engine might that be that is shared? 3.4?

from what little i know it is the 3.4 litre, not the 3.6? any porschephiles(sp?) out there?

[edit]3.6, not 3.7... my bad

[kchan]

^
if its 99 - 01 its the 3.4L
02+ will be the 3.6L :D

[thumper]

a bit more info here:

http://www.germanautoforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2935

[DLi]

Sweet ride for sure! Just a piece of advice though, if you ever need to service your future Porsche, i highly recommend the guys at Weissach. Forget MCL, very poor customer service. I get better treatment @ a KIA dealership.

[ilvtofu]

But only newer boxster S have the 3.4
the 986 never had the 3.4 so It probably wasn't the same 3.4 used in the 996
because the boxster didn't get it till 07 and the 996 got rid of it in 02,

So I don't think that in the 5 years between they didn't change the engine so I don't think what thumper says about boxster and 996 sharing the same engine is true, although it might be the same problem.

[GreenBeans]

if you "believe" it's a 996 you shouldn't be buying a porsche

http://smiliesftw.com/x/ThisFkGuy.gif (http://smiliesftw.com)

[thumper]

But only newer boxster S have the 3.4
the 986 never had the 3.4 so It probably wasn't the same 3.4 used in the 996
because the boxster didn't get it till 07 and the 996 got rid of it in 02,

So I don't think that in the 5 years between they didn't change the engine so I don't think what thumper says about boxster and 996 sharing the same engine is true, although it might be the same problem.

yeah i'm really not sure, that's why i asked if anyone else out there knew more...

the stories about the rear main seal dying seems to be overrated the more i read about it online... i guess it got hyped up because it happens to be a porsche, and it's so expensive to correct compared to all the other brands out there that also leak.

[minimebang]

So you're selling your leased bodykitted S2k for $40k and trying to get a 9-year old Porsche...

how can he "sell" his S2k if it is still in the lease term? i thought he bought out already?

[ilvtofu]

yeah TBH a 996 isn't really that great, S2K is a pretty legendary car, but the 996 specifically isn't, although the 911 is.

[Rich Sandor]

^ Lol wut?

Having driven both an '02 s2k and '02 996's, in anger, I'd take the 996, hands down. It's better in every possible way.

I wouldn't call the S2K legendary.. it's no more or less special than a 996.

[ilvtofu]

I guess from the 1980s till now I like to skip a gen with 911s, 964 and 996 weren't my faves. I still like them but not as much.

As a 993 guy I'll never forgive the 996 for introducing 911 to mainland C-lai's driving them around in Vancouver. It just doesn't feel as special anymore. but at least it's no cayenne XD

Based on that i'm pretty irrational for liking the 997 though,
I don't sound very convincing I guess...

but S2K and NSX are pretty legendary honda sports cars.
But maybe I agree with you that the 996 is way better, more practical and it's a porsche.

[ilvtofu]

-1 for the 964 this one is just atrocious...
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/ctd/1215137240.html

[RabidRat]

Just a comment on the Exige. ... Everything about that car is focused on performance...

this is all i see. haha

[tofu1413]

-1 for the 964 this one is just atrocious...
http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/ctd/1215137240.html

screw it. get a 965 3.6 ;)

[ilvtofu]

Wow neone seen how much 930 turbos go for? I really like that body style much better than the 964 IMO and they're legendary for being deadly.
But for almost 50k for some of 'em i dunno.
996 turbos go for around the same!

[bcrdukes]

remember the GERMANS MAKE GOOD STUFF just ask this guy

No they don't. They over-build and over-engineer shit that frustrates the hell out of everybody.

[ilvtofu]

^that's a stereotype

just like saying japanese brands are fuel efficient and reliable, just look at the GTR got japanese written all over it, and then what?

[bcrdukes]

No it's not just a stereotype. If you worked on cars, Japanese or German, you'll know but obviously, you don't.

[ilvtofu]

^HEY DON'T QUESTION VINCE FROM SHAMWOW!!!

Even if it is "over-engineered" I'd take a 911 or and R8 over any "supercar" the japanese will throw at me. Sports cars like 911s don't have to be simple, they're meant to showcase the technology and the best engineered cars of the time. You show me a Japanese ass engined car that can still deliver the refinement, practicality, fuel economy, and elegance that a 911 has. You pay that extra for something that is that much sweeter, and that much more desirable.


Theres nothing wrong with being complicated because for many that's what makes the car more enjoyable. Sorta like the R35 GTR, over-complicated, but heck you show me a 4000lb awd house on wheels that moves that fast around the nurburgring. That's the only thing that keeps the GTR desirable neways, it's definitely it's stunning good looks

[thumper]

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/UberHot-History_689684.htm

[ilvtofu]

nice vid!

shit when'd i become such a fanboy :(

[bcrdukes]

ilvtofu

You fail. Go do some wrenching, fanboy.

[tofu1413]

No they don't. They over-build and over-engineer shit that frustrates the hell out of everybody.

+1 to that. my god. reminds me of my 944. i worked on it myself and kept questioning: why'd they make it like this!?

[thumper]

+1 to that. my god. reminds me of my 944. i worked on it myself and kept questioning: why'd they make it like this!?


+2, but i don't own a porsche...

stretch bolts. can bus with amnesia. enuf said :cry:

[skyxx]

No it's not just a stereotype. If you worked on cars, Japanese or German, you'll know but obviously, you don't.

I'm completely with you, I know I don't own a P-car but I own a VW and lately it's been giving me a headache. Sometimes I go, why the fuck would they do this.....so many wtf moments...

[Marco911]

Sure some 996 911s have depreciated to the range that ppl think they can afford buying a Porsche. But that doesn't mean they can afford to MAINTAIN a Porsche. So if you can't afford a $60K car, you can't afford a $40K Porsche.

[thumper]

I'm completely with you, I know I don't own a P-car but I own a VW and lately it's been giving me a headache. Sometimes I go, why the fuck would they do this.....so many wtf moments...

amen.

i'm into my 3rd week without my car. thank god the service dept. is so accomodating or else the sh*t would have hit the fan long ago. :rolleyes:

[tofu1413]

i waited a week and a half for a tensioner to come in from germany.... T_T


and im not the only one in the house who suffers from german cars.

dad's e-class 4matic's cat broke in the inside.... took 5 days for parts to arrive too. (well, that's actually the only problem we had with it so far)


german car parts > us. but i think those early vws are ok.. since parts are everywhere..?

[Marco911]

amen.

i'm into my 3rd week without my car. thank god the service dept. is so accomodating or else the sh*t would have hit the fan long ago. :rolleyes:

What parts are you waiting for?

[thumper]

What parts are you waiting for?

front suspension subframe (stretch bolts holding it together have.... issues), air con condenser (they are guessing because they have tried everything else and can't find the problem), hood liner (falling down). a few weeks back the steering ecu developed amnesia making for non-assisted steering (great upper body workout when fighting both a mechanical rack and a dead electromechanical power steering motor) as well.

so far i've been to the dealer 3 times in 2 months. and fortunately everything so far has been covered under warranty and the service dept. has been really good to me... but i have no extended (was offered before purchase but i didn't have the cash), and i'm worried that this could become my worst nightmare when the factory warranty expires. my last car (japanese) was nearly 10 years old and had nearly 200k kms when i had to sell it, and i've only been to the dealer once in the 5 years that i had owned it.

one of my now ex-friends was mocking me yesterday saying i bought a new car so that i could drive a service loaner almost all the time... not fair! :cry:

sigh...

[ilvtofu]

^I think you can still buy extended before the factory expires
Is this for a GTI? Damn sounds like a lemon to me

[skyxx]

front suspension subframe (stretch bolts holding it together have.... issues), air con condenser (they are guessing because they have tried everything else and can't find the problem), hood liner (falling down). a few weeks back the steering ecu developed amnesia making for non-assisted steering (great upper body workout when fighting both a mechanical rack and a dead electromechanical power steering motor) as well.

so far i've been to the dealer 3 times in 2 months. and fortunately everything so far has been covered under warranty and the service dept. has been really good to me... but i have no extended (was offered before purchase but i didn't have the cash), and i'm worried that this could become my worst nightmare when the factory warranty expires. my last car (japanese) was nearly 10 years old and had nearly 200k kms when i had to sell it, and i've only been to the dealer once in the 5 years that i had owned it.

one of my now ex-friends was mocking me yesterday saying i bought a new car so that i could drive a service loaner almost all the time... not fair! :cry:

sigh...
Sucks to hear you bro. I know how you feel haha. They're fun things to drive but when there's a problem it's not fun. Hope there's good news soon. :thumbsup: Tough it out!

[BNR32_Coupe]

heres a side shot of my green carrera. just got it waxed over the weekend

http://www.treecritters.com/Green-Tree-Frog-0006.jpg

[thumper]

^I think you can still buy extended before the factory expires
Is this for a GTI? Damn sounds like a lemon to me


don't say that!!! you'll jinx me :cry:

the subframe and compressor are known problems and there are TSBs out for them... it's just unfortunate for me that they both happened simultaneously. no explanation for the steering ecu and hood liner though :confused:

[Death2Theft]

Buy German and get to know the names of everyone in the service dept.

[thumper]

whoa... is this for real?

http://vancouver.en.craigslist.ca/ctd/1248810696.html

2003 PORSCHE 911 CARRERA 4S
http://images.craigslist.org/3kd3p43ocZZZZZZZZZ971c920535f6fd2140c.jpg

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translation: ratbagged, high mileage? :confused:

[kchan]

^
most likely
in the US they are asking C4S around that price except in US not CAD
and yea.. that c4s seems to good to be true.. unless you dont mind the high mileage of like 120,000+

[thumper]

^
most likely
in the US they are asking C4S around that price except in US not CAD
and yea.. that c4s seems to good to be true.. unless you dont mind the high mileage of like 120,000+

yeah... only way to find the truth... anyone got carfax? the vin for this car is WP0AA29903S623982

[doveshack]

yup it has 180,000kms!!!! good deal if you had a spare engine kicking around or have extra funds to rebuild the engine. its been sold after 4mins published on craigslist