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06-12-2009, 01:16 PM
ive been trying to sell a car on craigslist, and for those of you who've done it before, you get tons of calls from relisting companies who bug the shit out of you to pay them a fee so they can aggressively list your car on tons of websites and papers. this one in particular is called empirevehicles from surrey.
their promise is, they GUARANTEE the sale of your car for an upfront fee of $400. if you sound really relluctant, they will eventually drop this fee as low as $249. they say that they list the car on buysell, craigslist, kijiji, autotrader, etc... the attractive thing about their service, is that they offer financing options for buyers. most of their salesmen sound really unprofessional on the phone (probably all 17yr old min wage hs dropout losers) and once you show any resistance at all, their main sales guy who is a pushy SOB gets on the phone with you.
first off, i'd never buy anything from a pushy salesman, PERIOD. if the product sounds like a great deal, it sells itself. i dont need someone to force me into buying anything.
second, how can anyone guarantee a sale of something? if theres no buyers, theres no sale. end of story.
so i tell the guy im not interested and i want to sell it myself. hes still being really pushy at this point and i tell him that if i dont sell it in a month or two, give me a call back. a few months goes by, the car hasnt sold. he calls back and is more fuckin annoying then ever. he gives me a little more info on his company and i tell him i'll call him during the week, DONT CALL ME.
so during this week, i go on their website and look at their listings. all the listings have emails of their clients so you can contact them directly. i decide to email them and ask them about empirevehicles' service, if it was worth it, did they sell the car for you, etc....
heres a few of the emails i got back:
"Hi,
I don't think their services are worth it. First of all, they never sent me the links to the ads of my car. I emailed them about it, and all I got was "will provide the links with in 2 business days". Second, I seem to be getting a lot more junk emails lately...a few people "from Europe" were trying to buy the car, but wanted me to pay them a few thousands first.
Anyway, if I can choose again, I will not do it. But that's just me. They did what they said to do, just not as good as promised. And the sales person will not be the one you will be dealing with once the fee is paid.
Good luck selling the car."
"i was not very impressed with the service and thought it was a waste of money. I ended up selling mine on Craigslist with better luck."
"Don't do it. They are pretty close to a scam. They list on a bunch of free websites. Not worth it."
"Dont waste your $$$$.I havent heard shit from them since they took my money.I havnt seen adds for my truck on well-known sites to buy used cars.I totally feel like an idiot for being sucked into advertising with 2 of these sites! Ive bought and sold many cars and due to lack of time I decided to go with these crooks....they told me everything i wanted to hear just to sign me up.Ive been listed for about 6-8 weeks and maybe 2 responses.Since then Ive been solicited by about 5-8 other companies just like these guys.List it yourself in fairly local publications."
"they are a scam- DO NOT GIVE THEM ANY $$$$$....i fell for it- ruuuuuuuuuuuuuunnn awaaaaaaaaaay fast -vanessa...gl on selling your car!"
"Well I would love to say that I am totally satisfied, but I am not quite sure. I have two cars listed with them for a week and a half now. I still haven't checked all the websites that they say they list with. So I haven't been that dilligent, unfortunately. I will be completely satisfied when my cars are sold. They sound like they have good guarantees, so I am trusting in that. But it is quite a bit of money to put down intially."
so the guy calls me back today, sounds a little fed up with me giving him the runaround. the conversation goes like this:
"hi chris, are you ready to list the car?
"i dont think im interested in your service"
"why is that?"
"well i went on your website and emailed a bunch of your clients, and none of them are happy with you guys, so i dont see myself being happy with you guys either"
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(at this point this is the very first time ive said anything to him that he didnt have a pushy sales response to)
"ok chris"
"ok bye"
im super happy i didnt give them a dime! these relisters wont work for shit once they have your money. i even went on their site and tried searching for the cars that they supposedly relisted everywhere (they say the re-list each ad twice a week), and most of the ads i couldnt even find on craigslist let alone buysell or any other website! stay far away and if they harrass you just tell them the same thing i did.
their promise is, they GUARANTEE the sale of your car for an upfront fee of $400. if you sound really relluctant, they will eventually drop this fee as low as $249. they say that they list the car on buysell, craigslist, kijiji, autotrader, etc... the attractive thing about their service, is that they offer financing options for buyers. most of their salesmen sound really unprofessional on the phone (probably all 17yr old min wage hs dropout losers) and once you show any resistance at all, their main sales guy who is a pushy SOB gets on the phone with you.
first off, i'd never buy anything from a pushy salesman, PERIOD. if the product sounds like a great deal, it sells itself. i dont need someone to force me into buying anything.
second, how can anyone guarantee a sale of something? if theres no buyers, theres no sale. end of story.
so i tell the guy im not interested and i want to sell it myself. hes still being really pushy at this point and i tell him that if i dont sell it in a month or two, give me a call back. a few months goes by, the car hasnt sold. he calls back and is more fuckin annoying then ever. he gives me a little more info on his company and i tell him i'll call him during the week, DONT CALL ME.
so during this week, i go on their website and look at their listings. all the listings have emails of their clients so you can contact them directly. i decide to email them and ask them about empirevehicles' service, if it was worth it, did they sell the car for you, etc....
heres a few of the emails i got back:
"Hi,
I don't think their services are worth it. First of all, they never sent me the links to the ads of my car. I emailed them about it, and all I got was "will provide the links with in 2 business days". Second, I seem to be getting a lot more junk emails lately...a few people "from Europe" were trying to buy the car, but wanted me to pay them a few thousands first.
Anyway, if I can choose again, I will not do it. But that's just me. They did what they said to do, just not as good as promised. And the sales person will not be the one you will be dealing with once the fee is paid.
Good luck selling the car."
"i was not very impressed with the service and thought it was a waste of money. I ended up selling mine on Craigslist with better luck."
"Don't do it. They are pretty close to a scam. They list on a bunch of free websites. Not worth it."
"Dont waste your $$$$.I havent heard shit from them since they took my money.I havnt seen adds for my truck on well-known sites to buy used cars.I totally feel like an idiot for being sucked into advertising with 2 of these sites! Ive bought and sold many cars and due to lack of time I decided to go with these crooks....they told me everything i wanted to hear just to sign me up.Ive been listed for about 6-8 weeks and maybe 2 responses.Since then Ive been solicited by about 5-8 other companies just like these guys.List it yourself in fairly local publications."
"they are a scam- DO NOT GIVE THEM ANY $$$$$....i fell for it- ruuuuuuuuuuuuuunnn awaaaaaaaaaay fast -vanessa...gl on selling your car!"
"Well I would love to say that I am totally satisfied, but I am not quite sure. I have two cars listed with them for a week and a half now. I still haven't checked all the websites that they say they list with. So I haven't been that dilligent, unfortunately. I will be completely satisfied when my cars are sold. They sound like they have good guarantees, so I am trusting in that. But it is quite a bit of money to put down intially."
so the guy calls me back today, sounds a little fed up with me giving him the runaround. the conversation goes like this:
"hi chris, are you ready to list the car?
"i dont think im interested in your service"
"why is that?"
"well i went on your website and emailed a bunch of your clients, and none of them are happy with you guys, so i dont see myself being happy with you guys either"
----------------LONG SILENCE-----------------------
.....
....
...
..
.
(at this point this is the very first time ive said anything to him that he didnt have a pushy sales response to)
"ok chris"
"ok bye"
im super happy i didnt give them a dime! these relisters wont work for shit once they have your money. i even went on their site and tried searching for the cars that they supposedly relisted everywhere (they say the re-list each ad twice a week), and most of the ads i couldnt even find on craigslist let alone buysell or any other website! stay far away and if they harrass you just tell them the same thing i did.