[SpoonFit]

[VENT]

Im super fustrated right now, So today I went on and did my daily thing. I went to burnaby south to pick up my girlfriend afterschool. As I proceeded to park at the school a cop pulls up right beside me and gets out and asks me for my driver and registration. Im thinking well..fuck me what the fuck. He proceeds to grill me about my no N which got jacked this morning because I had it on last night.(but thats my word against his) he calls me a liar. Out of anger I start talking politely and I knew the best thing to do was shutup and listen. Than he said "what do you think you're a superstar or celebrity or something?"

He twisted everything I said into his own, I have never met such a conniving person.

Than he calls backup brings his friend cops over and asked to searched my car, I said No. And they proceeded to ask me 1000X questions about why not if Im hiding shit in my car.

Im so sick of stupid inconsiderate people like that watching over the streets.

oh and he gave me a few tickets also. Which im not that mad about but its the fact the way the act like he's hotshit.

[dna82]

'are you going to detain me or am I free to go?'

[Alby]

you should have followed your own advice and just to shutup and listen. driving a car with a novice license without a N stuck to your car is already you at fault, whatever the reasons were. should have gotten another one asap before driving again.

talking back to a cop is almost asking for trouble, just a slippery slope from there on.

[ek1]

as Barry Cooper said in "Never Get Busted" cops are trained that no matter what you say whether true or not they think you are lying because of all the people they have dealt with and the excuses they have heard. And when being asked to have your car searched you can legally say no but they sure are going to give you a hard time wondering why you wont let them search you if you have nothing to hide

[mr_chin]

[VENT]

Im super fustrated right now, So today I went on and did my daily thing. I went to burnaby south to pick up my girlfriend afterschool. As I proceeded to park at the school a cop pulls up right beside me and gets out and asks me for my driver and registration. Im thinking well..fuck me what the fuck. He proceeds to grill me about my no N which got jacked this morning because I had it on last night.(but thats my word against his) he calls me a liar. Out of anger I start talking politely and I knew the best thing to do was shutup and listen. Than he said "what do you think you're a superstar or celebrity or something?"

He twisted everything I said into his own, I have never met such a conniving person.

Than he calls backup brings his friend cops over and asked to searched my car, I said No. And they proceeded to ask me 1000X questions about why not if Im hiding shit in my car.

Im so sick of stupid inconsiderate people like that watching over the streets.

oh and he gave me a few tickets also. Which im not that mad about but its the fact the way the act like he's hotshit.

Lol, I assume you're still going to school or have just graduated. Anyways, when it comes to situations like these, there are so many ways you can own the cops.

First the N sign... you can just go straight to the point and have him give you your ticket, because hassling a cop will not dispute your ticket. Just say "just give me the ticket, cause it's the judge i have to deal with, not you."

The searching part is probably because there was a 911 call or something around the neighborhood and your car happened to match the description.

This happened to me last winter in the snow... I kept on hassling saying I don't have anything in my car. They will turn your words on you, trying to scare you to see if you're actually scared. If you defend yourself probably, it'll tell the cop that you have nothing in your car.

Anyways, the cop that search me knew he had nothing on me and barely searched my car. He went through my backseat, glove, and trunk and that was it... didn't search the side of my door and under the seat. And you can see the "OMG what a waste of time" face on his back ups face. The temperature was in the minus at the time.

First thing to remember when dealing with police is, know your rights and if you're really clean, don't be afraid to let him search. But don't let it go easy and let them have it their way. Play around with them, tell them they have no right to search, and then go "ok ok, fine, you're not gonna find anything anyways". You'll see how embarass they get.

But anything you do, don't violate any more than you did and don't do anything that goes against their procedure. For example, if you tell you to turn your engine off, turn it off. Before you step out of the car, ask them what the problem is and stuff, like what you're being arrested for.

[ToneCapone]

hurting situation, cop probably having a bad day
really... no N sign? big deal.. ive had cops ticket for 2 many passengers, but and never say a word about the no N sign. ( i rarely have it on )

[Harvey Specter]

Yup, one thing I've learned over the years is never talk back to a cop or give them attitude.

[mr_chin]

[VENT]

Im super fustrated right now, So today I went on and did my daily thing. I went to burnaby south to pick up my girlfriend afterschool. As I proceeded to park at the school a cop pulls up right beside me and gets out and asks me for my driver and registration. Im thinking well..fuck me what the fuck. He proceeds to grill me about my no N which got jacked this morning because I had it on last night.(but thats my word against his) he calls me a liar. Out of anger I start talking politely and I knew the best thing to do was shutup and listen. Than he said "what do you think you're a superstar or celebrity or something?"

He twisted everything I said into his own, I have never met such a conniving person.

Than he calls backup brings his friend cops over and asked to searched my car, I said No. And they proceeded to ask me 1000X questions about why not if Im hiding shit in my car.

Im so sick of stupid inconsiderate people like that watching over the streets.

oh and he gave me a few tickets also. Which im not that mad about but its the fact the way the act like he's hotshit.

it's pretty obvious he called you a liar because you said your N was stolen in the morning... BUT you didn't take the time to go to ICBC or any ICBC broker to get another one. So it's clearly your fault... in situations like these, you should be as nice to the police officer as possible, and he may let you off. $118 is not a small amount. And you said you got a "few" tickets, so i'm guessing your tickets was over $200.

[quasi]

About the N, of course he's going to think you're lieing. I bet approx 97.834% of new drivers who get pulled over without a N just happened to have it stolen that morning or the previous night. Right off he has you lieing (in his eyes) so of course he's going to give you the gears.

[El Bastardo]

After I was arrested years ago I had the same arresting officer pull me over when my mother was in the car to ask me when my court date was.
Seriously. That was the reason he pulled me over. It had been about a week since I was arrested and I was obeying the speed limit, had my belt on, everything. He recognized me and decided he needed to make my day a little more awesome.

Small town bullshit.

It was awkward explaining to my mom that situation.


Fuck you, Courtenay RCMP

[mr_chin]

After I was arrested years ago I had the same arresting officer pull me over when my mother was in the car to ask me when my court date was.
Seriously. That was the reason he pulled me over. It had been about a week since I was arrested and I was obeying the speed limit, had my belt on, everything. He recognized me and decided he needed to make my day a little more awesome.

Small town bullshit.

It was awkward explaining to my mom that situation.


Fuck you, Courtenay RCMP

He probably forgot and wanted to make sure and didn't wanna go back to the office and check cause then he'd look like an idiot in front of his colleagues. You shoulda said some fake date.

[Volvo-brickster]

First thing to remember when dealing with police is, know your rights and if you're really clean, don't be afraid to let him search. But don't let it go easy and let them have it their way.

That is some horrendous advice.

Why the hell would you let a police officer who has no grounds to search your vehicle, do so ?

If something illegal was found and seized and you went to court, you can contest the search. The police officer has to prove to a judge, on reasonable grounds, why he had suspicions to search your car.

You might as well drop your pants and spread your cheeks with that line of thinking.

[G-spec]

if you really wanted to own him you should have exercised your legal right NOT to answer any questions un-related to the traffic stop and only answered basic legal questions like name, insurance and license info....

You're not legally obligated to answer any other questions other than those basic ones, so just remaining silent and NOT answering all the other bullshit questions he has for you can be more frustrating to an officer than bitching at him. A cop would definitely expect someone to bitch at them, but they probably aren't prepared for someone who is willing to exercise their legal rights to the fullest....


in case anyone wants to call bullshit on my post, feel free... but I tried it myself and it works.... read below

Few months ago I pulled that method on a cop, because he kept asking questions like "what I do for a living" and "how I paid for my car" etc.... questions that have no relevance for the front plate ticket he ended up giving me. He got so frustrated with me because I wouldn't play his bullshit game, he kept me on the side of the road for over an hour. So the wilder his questions got, the more I got under his skin by refusing to answer, towards the end I was toying with him sayin shit like "I plead the fifth on that question officer" he knew what it meant, but had the most confused look on his face, shit was deadly hilarious I wish I had a camera...

http://www.students.stedwards.edu/jschanz/dafif.jpg



(and yes I do know that the fifth amendment is from the US constitution and it doesn't apply here, but that shit served some major shits and giggles


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxE_oQBwrdU

[Honyoung]

wow that sucks
i was stopped at a road block near spanish banks around 10 pm
when i rolled up all he asked was if i was drinking
i just said "no sir" and he let me go
i didnt have my N sign on my car and i look REALLY young
but he didnt even think of it twice
no cars were behind me so it wasnt a rush or anything
i think maybe that cop was having a bad day

[mr_chin]

That is some horrendous advice.

Why the hell would you let a police officer who has no grounds to search your vehicle, do so ?

If something illegal was found and seized and you went to court, you can contest the search. The police officer has to prove to a judge, on reasonable grounds, why he had suspicions to search your car.

You might as well drop your pants and spread your cheeks with that line of thinking.

If you 100% know there is nothing in your vehicle that can get you to court, why not? Either way, if you refuse to let the police officer search your car, they will search it anyways.

There is a very minimal chance that when you refuse to let an officer search your car, they will back down. A police officer don't search your car unless they have a good reason to. You think they like searching your car? First, they have to get back up, then they have to go through your car, then they have write a report explaining nothing is found, which makes them look like an idiot. Often reasons a police officer wants to search your car is because they suspect that you have something to do with an incident that happened nearby or whatever.

Even if they do find something illegal and went to court, you can fight it because it was an illegal search. Either way, they would of searched your car anyways. Last time a buddy of mine refused to get out of the car to let the officer search, they smashed his windshield and pulled him out.

There is always a reason why they want to search. They don't do it because they are assholes. There are much work to put in when they want to search your car. When you get a random pull over, it's either a neighbor's 911 call where you match the description or some kind of infraction. I can assure you that most of the police don't just pull a random car over and decide to give him a ticket, you think they decide to pull him over because he didn't have an N, and expect that he was a class 7?

If you 100% know you're innocent, argue with them for a bit and then let them search so they can find out for themself what an idiot they are. You alone arguing with a police officer means nothing, you're not a lawyer.

If you think this is a horrible advice, then do the opposite, go argue with a police officer about searching, see what happens. The more you resist, the more you're guilty.

[Carl Johnson]

Doesn't Burnaby South has a rule where you are not supposed to park in the school parking lot when waiting to pick someone up after school? That's could be the reason why the cop was pissed off at you.

[Shun Izaki]

I've had a cop before, that told me (driving my parents rx350, legimiately.. was taking it to get an oil change) that "ooh, can't afford your own insurance?"

i asked him what kind of racial profiling that was, and his partner came over and told him to shut up. :D

[Shun Izaki]

About the N, of course he's going to think you're lieing. I bet approx 97.834% of new drivers who get pulled over without a N just happened to have it stolen that morning or the previous night. Right off he has you lieing (in his eyes) so of course he's going to give you the gears.

99% of people I know who have an N

don't put it up, and have excuses ready. It's pretty dumb, but thank god i don't have that.

[dna82]

If you 100% know there is nothing in your vehicle that can get you to court, why not? Either way, if you refuse to let the police officer search your car, they will search it anyways.

There is a very minimal chance that when you refuse to let an officer search your car, they will back down. A police officer don't search your car unless they have a good reason to. You think they like searching your car? First, they have to get back up, then they have to go through your car, then they have write a report explaining nothing is found, which makes them look like an idiot. Often reasons a police officer wants to search your car is because they suspect that you have something to do with an incident that happened nearby or whatever.

Even if they do find something illegal and went to court, you can fight it because it was an illegal search. Either way, they would of searched your car anyways. Last time a buddy of mine refused to get out of the car to let the officer search, they smashed his windshield and pulled him out.

There is always a reason why they want to search. They don't do it because they are assholes. There are much work to put in when they want to search your car. When you get a random pull over, it's either a neighbor's 911 call where you match the description or some kind of infraction. I can assure you that most of the police don't just pull a random car over and decide to give him a ticket, you think they decide to pull him over because he didn't have an N, and expect that he was a class 7?

If you 100% know you're innocent, argue with them for a bit and then let them search so they can find out for themself what an idiot they are. You alone arguing with a police officer means nothing, you're not a lawyer.

If you think this is a horrible advice, then do the opposite, go argue with a police officer about searching, see what happens. The more you resist, the more you're guilty.

...
do not let the police search your vehicle even if you have nothing to hide because

a) allowing police to search your car reinforces the mentality 'if they have nothing to hide, why not?'

b) it makes the police aware of their boundaries and they cannot initiate a search without reasonable cause.

the search is no longer illegal if you consent to it.

[maxx]

ive never had that or any other rudeness or impoliteness happen to me. maybe because i dont drive a car with a fart can, lowered, tinted, fake CF hoods and type R and nowzz stickers everywhere.

[JSALES]

i've had a cop pull me over for having my car overpacked and not displaying my "N" sign. Fortunately they let me go with just a warning and told my friends to get out and to walk back where we came from which wasn't too far

[EX-R]

Do these rights apply to border officers searching your car as well? Also, do i have a right to refuse to answer irrelevant questions when i cross the border? example: i keep my citizenship card and my passport together and the border officer hassled me by asking "does having your citizenship card and your passport together make you more of canadian?" then tells me not to keep it together.

[maxx]

Do these rights apply to border officers searching your car as well? Also, do i have a right to refuse to answer irrelevant questions when i cross the border? example: i keep my citizenship card and my passport together and the border officer hassled me by asking "does having your citizenship card and your passport together make you more of canadian?" then tells me not to keep it together.

no, you surrender your right of search when crossing the border. there's a enormous sign when you enter a queue to any border lineups. all vehicles and persons may be subjected to mandatory search.

[Volvo-brickster]

Do these rights apply to border officers searching your car as well? Also, do i have a right to refuse to answer irrelevant questions when i cross the border? example: i keep my citizenship card and my passport together and the border officer hassled me by asking "does having your citizenship card and your passport together make you more of canadian?" then tells me not to keep it together.

lol was this canadian side or USA side?

usually its the USA guys that are funny as hell and Canadian side that are true assholes

last time i went down to walmart at 12am the USA guy asked me why i wasnt playing mario at home

[SupraMan604]

LOL

[SpoonFit]

Joining the RCMP basic requirements:

Good character:
You should possess the following values: integrity, honesty, professionalism, compassion, respect and accountability. Our selection process will determine if your personal history, traits and characteristics are suitable for a career in policing.

fucking bullshit.

[EX-R]

lol was this canadian side or USA side?

usually its the USA guys that are funny as hell and Canadian side that are true assholes

last time i went down to walmart at 12am the USA guy asked me why i wasnt playing mario at home

yup...the canadian side.

For those who know that black guy on the US side at point roberts, that guy is so funny! My first encounter with him, he asked me the usual questions, then he pops a fast one on me and asked "gonna watch the fight tomorrow?". I was so confused that i had no idea what to say and just told him i dont follow. I find out later he was talking about the Pacquiao and Morales fight!

BTW, anyone got any info on my question about irrelevant questions at the border crossing?

[CRiXy]

What car were you driving?
What clothes were you driving?

[Not really racist!]

Border Officials are ftw..

Asked me why I'm going to the States.... I said shopping..

and he asks, why shopping? wtf.

[EX-R]

wrx but i dont look like a gangsta wannabe. i was just wearing plain levis jeans, all black nike dunks with white swoosh and a white zoo york shirt that looked anything but gangster.

[Sean@Home]

I guess its a bad day for people dealing with police.

I was driving to work. Going down burrard towards georgia. Im in the lane with my left blinker on as a cop on a motorcycle puts his lights on to cross georgia and stops next to me facing the opposit direction at the next light. I have my windows almost all the way down. About a inch of the window is visable. As im turning left at the light i see in my rear view mirrior hes pulling a U-ey. As soon as i see it i put my windows down fully. He pulls me over walks up to my car.

I ask him what the problem is. In a forceful voice he demands my lisence and registration. I tell him no problem. He asks me where im going. I tell him work. He then snikkers at me and says isn't it early to be selling drugs. At this point im offended. I say that he had to pull me over for a reason, so just give me the ticket for that and i can be on my way. He writes me a ticket for front window tint. He then says if i pay it early it will be reduced by 25%. I try to explain the fact that i had just bought the car and thats the way it came. So i ask him if i can pay the ticket right then and there. He accuses me of trying to bribe him. At this point i realized he was just an asshole. so i took the ticket and went on my way.

As i drove away he guns it across the street again and pulls over a grey BMW. He literally runs up to the window of the car and tells them to put their hands on the dash. One of those over zealous cops thinking hes actually making a difference.

As usual i will appeal the ticket, change the date of it close to the time of the court date, wait for him not to show up. profit.

[iEatClams]

...
do not let the police search your vehicle even if you have nothing to hide because

a) allowing police to search your car reinforces the mentality 'if they have nothing to hide, why not?'

b) it makes the police aware of their boundaries and they cannot initiate a search without reasonable cause.

the search is no longer illegal if you consent to it.

This is why canada + US are great countries to live in.

if you live in mexico, vietnam, cambodia, phillipines, or some third world african country uld be fcked to the max. cops can screw u over and search u , plant drugs in your trunk and off you go to prison. shiet like this happens all the time. this use to happen in like the in the early part of the century in canada and the U.S too.

Sometimes cops planting stuff can be good. ie. have u guys ever seen the movie "Gone Baby Gone" - where the cops wanted to put this bad guy away so the cop planted coke in guy's appartment and off he went to prison.

but usually, it's the other way around and cops plant shiet in your car and an innocent person goes to jail.

thats why u always say no to searches, even if you have nothing to hide.

[monkymadnes]

This is why canada + US are great countries to live in.

if you live in mexico, vietnam, cambodia, phillipines, or some third world african country uld be fcked to the max. cops can screw u over and search u , plant drugs in your trunk and off you go to prison. shiet like this happens all the time. this use to happen in like the in the early part of the century in canada and the U.S too.


thats why u always say no to searches, even if you have nothing to hide.

i call false! im from the philippines and when a cop pulls you over you hand him $2 he lets you go. these guys have no money, they make 500 bux a month, they work 60 hours a week, $2 in their wallet instead of going to the government... why not :)

[JSALES]

that's why whenever i get pulled over and they ask me to step out, i roll up my windows and lock my doors so they can't search inside

[mr_chin]

http://www.nolo.com/article.cfm/objectId/7B8C1C59-C365-4443-B5A8C00DFFA8D44D/104/143/127/QNA/

http://www.flexyourrights.org/frequently_asked_questions

quote from second link:

6. If I’m not doing anything illegal, why shouldn’t I let the police search me?

The sad fact is that most people believe that they are under some kind of obligation to acquiesce when an officer contacts them and asks permission to search them or their belongings.

The truth is the exact opposite -- you have a right to associate with, and speak to, whomever you please. In this respect, there is nothing special about a police officer. Assuming you would not let a complete stranger look through your purse or search your pockets, why would you allow a police officer to do so -- especially if you’re doing nothing illegal? Just say "NO" to police searches!

Always say no, unless you're actually being under arrest.

[Benz_05TSX]

Never talk back, they have enough power to seriously screw you over...

Just pretend you are a nice little boy and STFU. That's what I've learned over the years. No matter what you say will not affect/change their judgement, unless they are in their good mood or you start crying like a little girl..

[ilvtofu]

What clothes were you driving?

hehe driving clothes :)
Probably some black sweats in the middle of the summer to look nammer?
Or an audigier hoody,

about that border thing, If you drive across the border do they ask for your DL? and do they care if u have ur L/N?

[ws6ta]

they usually give me the...let us search your car or we will write you a ticket line. If all we had to do was pay tickets and they didn't have any points which lead to driving suspensions I would tell them to go fuck their mother but since they can really screw me I usually tell them to go fuck themselves in a more polite way. You guys need to remember if cops were smart they would be lawyers, judges, etc. but they are not. They are some dumb fucks that got a diploma in criminology from somewhere, decided to bike ride around a city with a bunch of other idiots with diploma's in crim and after a certain amount of volunteer hours and if they aren't too fucked in the head (as long as they don't want to rape babies) they will become a police officer! doesn't matter if you have done drugs before as long as you can tell them it was before now your a changed man etc.

Proof that cops are fucken douchebag motherfuckers....

RCMP officer charged with breaching alcohol ban appears in Regina court
Regina Leader-Post
June 8, 2008

An RCMP officer charged with again breaching a probation order prohibiting him from consuming alcohol made his first court appearance in Regina on Monday morning.

Const. Brent A. Jolson, 40, is not in custody. The matter was adjourned until July 20.

Jolson was involved in a single-vehicle collision in an RCMP cruiser near Lumsden on May 7. According to information previously released by the RCMP, the crash occurred on Highway 11, when a marked RCMP cruiser headed south entered the centre median and hit a culvert.

Jolson, the lone occupant of the car, was not on duty at the time of the collision. He suffered minor injuries.

A road-side screening device detected the presence of some alcohol in Jolson’s system, but not enough to warrant a breathalyser test. Jolson received a 24-hour licence suspension.

At the time of the crash, the 12-year veteran of the RCMP was on court-ordered probation for a previous assault conviction. One of the conditions of that probation order was abstaining from alcohol.


Story #2:

Sunny Dhillon, Vancouver, B.C. (Canadian Press) - An RCMP officer involved in the death of Robert Dziekansi should find out in the next month whether he will face charges for impaired and dangerous driving in the unrelated death of a motorcyclist, a Crown spokesman says.

Delta police said Tuesday they have finished their investigation into the October 2008 crash and have recommended two charges against Cpl. Benjamin Monty Robinson, who was off-duty when a Jeep collided with a motorcycle.

Orion Hutchinson, 21, was killed. He had recently completed a trades program at the British Columbia Institute of Technology and was days away from a new job when he was thrown from the motorcycle.

Robinson was arrested at the scene.

Delta police announced Tuesday that they have finally forwarded their report to the Crown.

“The Delta police are now awaiting charge approval on the recommended charges against the off-duty RCMP officer, Monty Robinson, of impaired driving causing death and dangerous driving causing death,” Const. Sharlene Brooks said.

Neil MacKenzie, a spokesman for the Criminal Justice Branch, said the Crown’s review of the report should be completed within the next month.

RCMP spokesman Sgt. Tim Shields said Robinson was suspended with pay following the crash and remains so.

“That pay status is currently under review,” Shields said, though he did not know when that review might be complete.

Robinson was the most senior of the four RCMP officers involved in Dziekanski’s death at Vancouver airport in October 2007.

His lawyer could not be reached for comment Tuesday regarding the Delta police department’s findings.

Robinson testified in March at a public inquiry that he gave the order to stun the Polish man with a Taser.

Police came under fire earlier this year after scheduled court dates were delayed and charges failed to be laid in Hutchinson’s death month after month.

Delta police said they had not received all the information and reports required by the Crown to lay charges in the case.

The force initially recommended charges months ago, including driving with a blood-alcohol level over .08. Additional materials requested by the Crown were finally submitted Monday.

Brooks said it’s the force’s duty and responsibility to conduct a full and thorough investigation.

“Essentially, what we’re dealing with here is a homicide and by their very nature, they’re complex and take a considerable amount of time,” she said.

“Investigations don’t flow in a nice tidy package.”

When asked if the delay in filing charges highlights the difficulty in police investigating police, Brooks said the force is aware of the gravity of the situation.

“We know that it’s not only the public’s expectation that the Delta police conduct a thorough and impartial and professional investigation, it’s our objective in each and every case and this was no different,” she said.

Brooks said investigators have been in contact with Hutchinson’s family and that they are still grieving a significant loss.

The motor vehicles branch suspended Robinson’s driver’s licence for 90 days following the crash - a suspension he tried unsuccessfully to appeal.

The officer argued in B.C. Supreme Court in March that a motor vehicles adjudicator didn’t properly consider his statement that he left the scene of the collision, had two shots of vodka, and then returned to the scene.

Read that last paragraph again. Old lawyers trick but fucken cop can't even own upto killing do you really think when he shows signs of aggression towards innocent people or writes bullshit tickets that he will own upto it? Its fucking asshole twats like this fuck that make me sick to my stomach.

You want more?

Officer loses pay for punching girl
THE CHRONICLE-JOURNAL
06/10/2009

http://chroniclejournal.com/top_story.php?id=191382

The former spokesman for Thunder Bay provincial police who pleaded guilty in March to a criminal charge of assault will lose a few day‘s pay after pleading guilty to a Police Services Act charge.

Const. Tim Buckland pleaded guilty Friday in Orilllia to discreditable conduct in the Feb. 8, 2008 incident in which he punched a teenage girl in the face outside his home.

An OPP spokesman said Tuesday that Buckland, 45, will have to forfeit 24 hours of pay. His conviction under the Police Services Act charge is based on his criminal conviction, the spokesman said.

The veteran police officer was off duty at the time of the incident.

Teenagers were leaving a nearby house party late in the evening when Buckland saw a male urinating on or near his car. He went outside to confront the boy and ended up in an altercation with two other youths.

Buckland had chased the urinating teen to a Suburban, and was trying to haul the boy out of the vehicle. A 17-year-old girl asked the males several times to move away from her father‘s truck.

Buckland punched her once on the chin, knocking her to the ground, an Ontario Court judge heard at Buckland‘s March sentencing.

Once he knocked the girl down, he up in a fight on the ground with two boys, both of whom were charged with aggravated assault.

Buckland received an absolute discharge after pleading guilty to assault. After the melee, he ended up in hospital and later had multiple surgeries to reconstruct his cheek bone, and to repair a broken and dislocated shoulder. He also has severe dental damage and permanent nerve loss in his face, his lawyer told the court.

The two boys were acquitted.

Buckland is currently working full-time at the Thunder Bay OPP detachment.


still not convinced?

James Keller
THE CANADIAN PRESS

VANCOUVER – The four RCMP officers involved in stunning Robert Dziekanski with a Taser at Vancouver's airport are asking a B.C. court to bar a public inquiry into his death from making findings of misconduct against them.

The inquiry's commissioner has warned the four officers that he will consider some of the allegations levelled against them during the inquiry, specifically that they acted improperly and then tried to cover up their actions.

The notice doesn't necessarily mean Thomas Braidwood will make such findings, but he is required to give notice if he wants the option left open and he's done that.

The inquiry, which began in January and wrapped up testimony last month, heard from more than 80 witnesses about what happened when Dziekanski was stunned with a Taser on Oct. 14, 2007.

The officers testified they stunned him several times because the Polish immigrant, who minutes earlier had been throwing furniture, was aggressive and threatening them with a stapler.

The officers' lawyers want the B.C. Supreme Court to prevent the inquiry from finding misconduct, arguing, among other things, that a provincial inquiry doesn't have the power to make findings against federal police officers and that such findings are outside the inquiry's original terms of reference.

"Disappointing," David Butcher, one of the officers' lawyers, said outside court Monday when asked to respond to the notice.

"We're bringing a constitutional question as to whether a provincial inquiry has authority to make findings of misconduct against RCMP officers, which are federal."

A hearing has been set for Friday.

Crown prosecutors decided last year not to charge the officers, but their actions have been under intense scrutiny at the inquiry.

The notices from the commissioner outline some of the broad allegations against Const. Kwesi Millington, Const. Bill Bentley, Const. Gerry Rundel and Cpl. Monty Robinson – allegations that were made during the inquiry by several lawyers.

The notice sent to Rundel on April 30 is contained in public court documents and the potential allegations against him include:

– When he arrived at Vancouver's airport, he failed to properly assess the situation and failed to react appropriately in confronting Dziekanski.

– The notes in his police notebook and the statements he gave to homicide investigators misrepresented Dziekanski's behaviour and what happened in an effort to justify the officers' actions.

– Rundel continued to misrepresent what happened when he testified at the inquiry.

– During his testimony, he offered "a self-serving and misleading" interpretation of his notes and statements.

Similar allegations are included in the notices to the other officers.

Reg Harris, who represents Robinson, the supervising officer on duty that night, said the notice sent to his client includes additional allegations, although he wouldn't elaborate.

In their testimony before the inquiry, each officer denied they acted improperly or tried to cover up what happened.

Walter Kosteckyj, who represents Dziekanski's mother, Zofia Cisowski, said the Mounties appear to be trying to avoid responsibility.

"These officers were under contract to the province of British Columbia, they were being paid by the people of the province of British Columbia," he said in an interview Monday.

"They don't want to be held responsible and clearly they feel that the pressure is on, so these are all last-ditch efforts."

Kosteckyj, who said he was only informed of the officers' petitions by reporters on Monday, said he'll be asking the court for a chance to intervene.

"I think that there's grounds to find misconduct here," he said. "I'll be looking to make submissions, as I expect others will."

The inquiry cannot made findings of criminal or civil wrongdoing, but findings of misconduct may add to growing public pressure for prosecutors to reconsider their decision not to charge the officers.

In announcing their decision last December, the Crown said the officers were acting lawfully and responded with reasonable force in the circumstances.

But there have been calls for prosecutors to take another look, including from Cisowski.

Specifically, critics point to inaccuracies between what's shown on an amateur video of the incident and what's contained in the officers' notes and statements.

B.C.'s former attorney general has said the Crown has the power to reconsider charges if they receive new evidence.

Findings of misconduct would also add to the public relations nightmare Dziekanski's death has become for the RCMP.

According to a Harris-Decima poll done in March for The Canadian Press, the case has damaged public confidence in the national police force, which has offered apologies while still standing behind the actions of the officers and the use of Tasers.

Closing submissions for the inquiry are scheduled to begin later this month and a report could be ready by the fall.

[The_AK]

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[Qmx323]

hehe driving clothes :)
Probably some black sweats in the middle of the summer to look nammer?
Or an audigier hoody,

about that border thing, If you drive across the border do they ask for your DL? and do they care if u have ur L/N?


Nope. Just hand them ur Passport and they won't give a F... you MIGHT run into trouble when ur coming back though. I don't recommend it but they don't check DL's at borders. The most they ask about cars is "Who does the car belong to?"

Obviously if you look like a kid they might suspect.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

well at least i aint the only one who hate cops

fuck the cops


power tripping bs



my last car the day i got my new rims the cops gave me a VI because they said my car was lowered. WAT THE FUCK, get your facts straight before you hand out stupid tickets.

whatever

[Nvasion]

lol i always get hassled going across the boarder... like holy shit i aint shipping drugs! let me go!

[trancehead]

If you 100% know there is nothing in your vehicle that can get you to court, why not? Either way, if you refuse to let the police officer search your car, they will search it anyways.

There is a very minimal chance that when you refuse to let an officer search your car, they will back down. A police officer don't search your car unless they have a good reason to. You think they like searching your car? First, they have to get back up, then they have to go through your car, then they have write a report explaining nothing is found, which makes them look like an idiot. Often reasons a police officer wants to search your car is because they suspect that you have something to do with an incident that happened nearby or whatever.

Even if they do find something illegal and went to court, you can fight it because it was an illegal search. Either way, they would of searched your car anyways. Last time a buddy of mine refused to get out of the car to let the officer search, they smashed his windshield and pulled him out.

There is always a reason why they want to search. They don't do it because they are assholes. There are much work to put in when they want to search your car. When you get a random pull over, it's either a neighbor's 911 call where you match the description or some kind of infraction. I can assure you that most of the police don't just pull a random car over and decide to give him a ticket, you think they decide to pull him over because he didn't have an N, and expect that he was a class 7?

If you 100% know you're innocent, argue with them for a bit and then let them search so they can find out for themself what an idiot they are. You alone arguing with a police officer means nothing, you're not a lawyer.

If you think this is a horrible advice, then do the opposite, go argue with a police officer about searching, see what happens. The more you resist, the more you're guilty.

You are a pussy

[El Bastardo]

No flaming, plz

[kumbo1]

That is some horrendous advice.

Why the hell would you let a police officer who has no grounds to search your vehicle, do so ?

If something illegal was found and seized and you went to court, you can contest the search. The police officer has to prove to a judge, on reasonable grounds, why he had suspicions to search your car.

You might as well drop your pants and spread your cheeks with that line of thinking.

If you have nothing to hide, then, why not? Gives the popo more of a reason to persue a search.

[SpoonFit]

well at least i aint the only one who hate cops

fuck the cops


power tripping bs



my last car the day i got my new rims the cops gave me a VI because they said my car was lowered. WAT THE FUCK, get your facts straight before you hand out stupid tickets.

whatever


HOLYSHIT so today i was driving very safe and slow 50KM a cop pulls beside me on the left lane. I looked and gave him a smile, he stared at me like im an idiot so im like wtf. keep on driving, the truck in front of me was going NO MORE THAN 55KPH, cuz he was only slightly ahead the cop pulls him over.

now the cop could have pulled him over for some other reason. But i choose to beleive there powerr tripping again.

I would love to one on one a cop fuck, not all some are iight but the one that fuckin ticketed me.

[kumbo1]

I guess its a bad day for people dealing with police.

I was driving to work. Going down burrard towards georgia. Im in the lane with my left blinker on as a cop on a motorcycle puts his lights on to cross georgia and stops next to me facing the opposit direction at the next light. I have my windows almost all the way down. About a inch of the window is visable. As im turning left at the light i see in my rear view mirrior hes pulling a U-ey. As soon as i see it i put my windows down fully. He pulls me over walks up to my car.

I ask him what the problem is. In a forceful voice he demands my lisence and registration. I tell him no problem. He asks me where im going. I tell him work. He then snikkers at me and says isn't it early to be selling drugs. At this point im offended. I say that he had to pull me over for a reason, so just give me the ticket for that and i can be on my way. He writes me a ticket for front window tint. He then says if i pay it early it will be reduced by 25%. I try to explain the fact that i had just bought the car and thats the way it came. So i ask him if i can pay the ticket right then and there. He accuses me of trying to bribe him. At this point i realized he was just an asshole. so i took the ticket and went on my way.

As i drove away he guns it across the street again and pulls over a grey BMW. He literally runs up to the window of the car and tells them to put their hands on the dash. One of those over zealous cops thinking hes actually making a difference.

As usual i will appeal the ticket, change the date of it close to the time of the court date, wait for him not to show up. profit.


A classic case of someone trying to play the law for a fool. Riiiight, "I just bought the car and it came like this":rolleyes:. You the idiot that had front tint. You have no right to call that cop out. You broke the law and now pay for it and man up. How you gonna apeal the ticket?

[winson604]

Call it in! lol

Seriously I got quite a bit of calls everyday with people making complaints about VPD officers. One guy even started crying once and then couldn't take it anymore and hung up.

[mr_chin]

You are a pussy

Oh, so you're tough now cause you stood up to a police officer. You're smart.

If the officer really had a reason of suspicion to search your vehicle, they will no matter what. If you can't tell if they're being serious, or just being a douche, then you shouldn't be so tough against a police officer.

1) You have to know, it's their job to do what they have to do when they get a disturbance call or whatever.
2) Most of the time they'll find nothing, so it wouldn't matter if it's an illegal search to them.
3) If they do find something illegal that has nothing to do with whatever they're dealing with, you're sent to court and probably get the charge off as an illegal search. The cop gets no record saying he's bad or anything, but yours will be on record forever, even if you are proven innocent.
4) If a police officer knows for sure you have a couple of kilo of coke in your trunk, they won't do an illegal search because they can get framed for planting in your car. They would think otherwise to do a search without warrant.
5) Sure, cops are not smart cause then they'd be a lawyer or judge, but they do know their game, what should and what shouldn't be dealt with. If it's a 17 year old driving with his N sign, you think they care if you have your rights? 99% of the time if they did do a search and find nothing, they're off free without a complain or hassle. The kid can grab his badge number and name, but what are the chances that the kid is gonna follow through and complain to the VPD or RCMP? If he does, would it even be that big of an issue? No.

So either way, when a cop wants to search your car, they will. They are not gonna back off because you have your rights. Unless your lawyer is sitting in your passenger seat. Most of the time in these situation, the cop wins.

[pandalove]

what if u refuse and the cop smashes ur window ... what compensation can u get :P
can u sue them for big bucks ?

[dna82]

If you have nothing to hide, then, why not? Gives the popo more of a reason to persue a search.

refusing to allow a search cannot be used in the decision to warrant a search.

ei.

judge #1 'so why'd you search his car for? on what reasonable grounds?'

cop #1 'because he said I couldn't'

judge #1 'you are an idiot'

[kumbo1]

lol

[mr_chin]

what if u refuse and the cop smashes ur window ... what compensation can u get :P
can u sue them for big bucks ?

unfortunately no. this happened to my friend before when he refused and had his window smashed. the only thing you get is a sorry and you have to pay a $200 deductible (not $300 for some reason) if you tell icbc that the police smashed your window during a stop.

[Sean@Home]

A classic case of someone trying to play the law for a fool. Riiiight, "I just bought the car and it came like this":rolleyes:. You the idiot that had front tint. You have no right to call that cop out. You broke the law and now pay for it and man up. How you gonna apeal the ticket?

I did just buy the car dumbass. And it came tinted in the front. My insurance reflected that fact. Additionally, i wont tell you how i will win the case because we need suckers like you that just blindly pay up, so people like me can get away with it.

[iEatClams]

i call false! im from the philippines and when a cop pulls you over you hand him $2 he lets you go. these guys have no money, they make 500 bux a month, they work 60 hours a week, $2 in their wallet instead of going to the government... why not :)


no shiet sherlock! all of us that were born in asia know that u can bribe them.

dude u totally misunderstood what i meant.

i meant that those countries are soo corrupt, if a cop doesnt like u. say you were at a bar and were discussing a sports game and you guys didnt agree and he didnt like you. (and u didnt know the guy was a cop).
he can pull u over later that day and frame u for shiet.

a lot of places they come every month and collect monthly protection dues. theres a huge list of corrupt shiet they do.

[Volvo-brickster]

If you have nothing to hide, then, why not? Gives the popo more of a reason to persue a search.

1 = principle. I do not need to prove im innocent. They need to prove im guilty.

2 = if everyone rolled over and laid dead, there goes any civil liberties and your rights under charter of rights and freedom

3 = right to privacy. What happens if i have a cream for some sort of genital rash and he sees it ? What happens if i have a giant box of ky jelly in the back? What happens if im an accountant and have a bunch of clients sin #'s and other private information in the back ? What happens if im a programmer with 6 months work of code and he decides to open it up ? List goes on....

[PiuYi]

are cops allowed to force you to search your own car?

last time i got pulled over he told me to open the glove compartment, then asked me to take everything out of it and put it on the passenger seat

i did what he told me n he found and confiscated my 10mL vodka sample shot -___-"

[pandalove]

are cops allowed to force you to search your own car?

last time i got pulled over he told me to open the glove compartment, then asked me to take everything out of it and put it on the passenger seat

i did what he told me n he found and confiscated my 10mL vodka sample shot -___-"

i guess that could be reasonable ... prevent u from drinking and driving ... but i bet he jus wanted to drink it :P

[mr_chin]

1 = principle. I do not need to prove im innocent. They need to prove im guilty.

2 = if everyone rolled over and laid dead, there goes any civil liberties and your rights under charter of rights and freedom

3 = right to privacy. What happens if i have a cream for some sort of genital rash and he sees it ? What happens if i have a giant box of ky jelly in the back? What happens if im an accountant and have a bunch of clients sin #'s and other private information in the back ? What happens if im a programmer with 6 months work of code and he decides to open it up ? List goes on....

1. Sorry, although that may be the saying (innocent until proven guilty) it's actually the other way around. Why are people held in custody until they are proven innocent? Why are people jailed until their trial date? In the court of law, yes you are innocent until proven guilty. But in a cop's eyes, you are always guilty until they cannot prove you're guilty, then you're free to go.

2. Civil liberties and the charter only stands for those who commited a serious crime. Using these factors for a routine stop or disturbance call gets you no where but in more trouble with the police officer.

3. Cream and KY jelly the police officer could care less because they won't get in that much trouble for. Until they do find your confidential documents, then you can approach to take action. But refusing to let the police search you if you're just a regular citizen will not work.

are cops allowed to force you to search your own car?

last time i got pulled over he told me to open the glove compartment, then asked me to take everything out of it and put it on the passenger seat

i did what he told me n he found and confiscated my 10mL vodka sample shot -___-"

First, you shouldn't have done what he said, because you willingly allow him to search your car, by telling you what to do. By doing this, you are given him consent that the search will not be illegal. Second, you're not suppose to have alcohol inside your car, whether it's closed bottle or open. You must stash it in the trunk, closed bottle.

Very little people know that you have the right to not answer anything. And very little people know that police use their words really carefully. Often times a police officer will say "I will have to ask you to step out of the car." This is merely a question. By replying with, "is that a question or a given order?" They will often have nothing to say back to you. By asking you to step out of the car gives them one step to searching your car. Often times they will assume that the search is allowed and can be used in the court of law to fight their cases.

Try not saying a single word next time you get pulled over and are asked to step out of the car. Chances are they will let you go, unless they really really want to arrest you knowing that you have commited a crime somewhere.

[kumbo1]

I did just buy the car dumbass. And it came tinted in the front. My insurance reflected that fact. Additionally, i wont tell you how i will win the case because we need suckers like you that just blindly pay up, so people like me can get away with it.

How the hell does the insurance reflect that? So the insurance covers your car for front tint? Do you use your car to haul jewelery or high valued goods? HAAHAHAHA, That is some funny ass shit. I smell bullshit on the part that "you just bought the car". It's people like you with blatant disregard for the law makes it bad for the rest of us. And I am not a sucker, as, I don't have front tint. You can't even have front tint for medical reasons. I hope the judge shoves a stick in your ass and up's your fine, dumbass.

[124Y]

A classic case of someone trying to play the law for a fool. Riiiight, "I just bought the car and it came like this":rolleyes:. You the idiot that had front tint. You have no right to call that cop out. You broke the law and now pay for it and man up. How you gonna apeal the ticket?

To be honest, my car came with front window tints. I purchased my car from New Type Mitsubishi but since my car is the last one in black in this specific trim, they had to bring it in from another dealer. When it came in, the sales told me that the car has window tints (didn't mention including the front) and asked if I'm ok with it, and I said yeah no problem. My car was brand new, so the other dealership must have tinted the glass.

[Sean@Home]

How the hell does the insurance reflect that? So the insurance covers your car for front tint? Do you use your car to haul jewelery or high valued goods? HAAHAHAHA, That is some funny ass shit. I smell bullshit on the part that "you just bought the car". It's people like you with blatant disregard for the law makes it bad for the rest of us. And I am not a sucker, as, I don't have front tint. You can't even have front tint for medical reasons. I hope the judge shoves a stick in your ass and up's your fine, dumbass.

Holy fuck you're dumber then a bag of bricks. My insurance reflected the fact i just bought the car, not the tint, which it did come with. Keep your gay fantasies about judges sodomizing people to yourself. Im sure you can find another forum that will be more excepting of your obvious homoerotic tendencies.

[trancehead]

Oh, so you're tough now cause you stood up to a police officer. You're smart.

If the officer really had a reason of suspicion to search your vehicle, they will no matter what. If you can't tell if they're being serious, or just being a douche, then you shouldn't be so tough against a police officer.

1) You have to know, it's their job to do what they have to do when they get a disturbance call or whatever.
2) Most of the time they'll find nothing, so it wouldn't matter if it's an illegal search to them.
3) If they do find something illegal that has nothing to do with whatever they're dealing with, you're sent to court and probably get the charge off as an illegal search. The cop gets no record saying he's bad or anything, but yours will be on record forever, even if you are proven innocent.
4) If a police officer knows for sure you have a couple of kilo of coke in your trunk, they won't do an illegal search because they can get framed for planting in your car. They would think otherwise to do a search without warrant.
5) Sure, cops are not smart cause then they'd be a lawyer or judge, but they do know their game, what should and what shouldn't be dealt with. If it's a 17 year old driving with his N sign, you think they care if you have your rights? 99% of the time if they did do a search and find nothing, they're off free without a complain or hassle. The kid can grab his badge number and name, but what are the chances that the kid is gonna follow through and complain to the VPD or RCMP? If he does, would it even be that big of an issue? No.

So either way, when a cop wants to search your car, they will. They are not gonna back off because you have your rights. Unless your lawyer is sitting in your passenger seat. Most of the time in these situation, the cop wins.

Wow you really are more of a doormat than I thought.
from the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms

8. Everyone has the right to be secure against unreasonable search or seizure.

Read that a couple times. Say it under your breath. Write it on the palm of your hand.

1) You have to know, it's their job to do what they have to do when they get a disturbance call or whatever.

This is a thread about abuse of police power. This being their job is NOT itself a valid justification for any search without warrant. Cops are not impartial.
2) Most of the time they'll find nothing, so it wouldn't matter if it's an illegal search to them.

This is such retarded logic. If it is an illegal search in the first place, then why not just avoid it all together. And if the majority of the time they will find nothing, then again why even bother searching.

And it will matter to you, when you're stuck with a shit ridden car after they have ravaged through it to find a 2 year old joint laying under your seat
3) If they do find something illegal that has nothing to do with whatever they're dealing with, you're sent to court and probably get the charge off as an illegal search. The cop gets no record saying he's bad or anything, but yours will be on record forever, even if you are proven innocent.

So why not avoid this all together and tell the officer you do not consent to a search. Do you really want to waste time heading to court and fight this off as an illegal search.
4) If a police officer knows for sure you have a couple of kilo of coke in your trunk, they won't do an illegal search because they can get framed for planting in your car. They would think otherwise to do a search without warrant.
Okay now you're an idiot.
5) Sure, cops are not smart cause then they'd be a lawyer or judge, but they do know their game, what should and what shouldn't be dealt with. If it's a 17 year old driving with his N sign, you think they care if you have your rights? 99% of the time if they did do a search and find nothing, they're off free without a complain or hassle. The kid can grab his badge number and name, but what are the chances that the kid is gonna follow through and complain to the VPD or RCMP? If he does, would it even be that big of an issue? No.
Again, this proves cops are not impartial. In this case, with the 17yo rocking the N sign, they probably would search him knowing he would just be like you. He'd bend over backwards and let them search his car as well.

You don't need a lawyer to sit in your passenger seat to retain your rights. If you're balls havn't broken yet by the very sight of a police officer, simply tell them you don't consent to a search.


Oh, so you're tough now cause you failed to stand up to a police officer. You're smart.

[pandalove]

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[Volvo-brickster]

Cream and KY jelly the police officer could care less because they won't get in that much trouble for. Until they do find your confidential documents, then you can approach to take action. But refusing to let the police search you if you're just a regular citizen will not work.



define regular citizen.

Anything in my car , i will consider confidential and i dont need to be a engineer, accountant, doctor, lawyer etc to refuse a police officer from illegally searching my vehicle.



Second, you're not suppose to have alcohol inside your car, whether it's closed bottle or open. You must stash it in the trunk, closed bottle.



http://www.bclaws.ca/Recon/document/freeside/--%20m%20--/motor%20vehicle%20act%20%20rsbc%201996%20%20c.%203 18/00_act/96318_00.htm#FOUND-NOTHING

within the motor vehicle act, where does it state you must have it in the trunk ?

[SpoonFit]

Hey guys so this is the Original thread starter, and this is seriously karma or something from hating on the cops.

Last night I went to a wedding and decided to leave a little early 12:25AM. I had a headlight burned out that afternoon and decided not to fix it. Right before I left the resturnant I told my gf as a joke, I have a feeling we might get pulled over so im going to drive super slow.

As I was about to exit the building of the resturant on alexandar road a cop drives by and makes a U turn and pulls me over right out of the resturant. LIKE HOLY FUCK u guys can only imagine what i was feeling. I don't even want to drive my car anymore to be honest. Anyways my license plates are bent and he gave me a huge ticket of 196 dollars..and again tried to ding me a ticket for being to low but it isn't I know the law about if your tire pops is your rim lower than the chassis, which it is.

now guys thats 2 days and a ticket of 109 + 198 = $307

My current position is im going to dispute the 109 dollar ticket(the cop that called me a superstar/celebrity) just cause I want to go to court and just piss him off by saying shit to the judge because i know thats the only place i can call him out on his character because i fuckin hate him lol

but as for the 198 ticket, i was wondering if im unemployed and i dont wanna dispute it is there anyway to pay the ticket in multiple payments? because I defn dont want to pay it all at once while im unemployed.

[ws6ta]

Hey guys so this is the Original thread starter, and this is seriously karma or something from hating on the cops.

Last night I went to a wedding and decided to leave a little early 12:25AM. I had a headlight burned out that afternoon and decided not to fix it. Right before I left the resturnant I told my gf as a joke, I have a feeling we might get pulled over so im going to drive super slow.

As I was about to exit the building of the resturant on alexandar road a cop drives by and makes a U turn and pulls me over right out of the resturant. LIKE HOLY FUCK u guys can only imagine what i was feeling. I don't even want to drive my car anymore to be honest. Anyways my license plates are bent and he gave me a huge ticket of 196 dollars..and again tried to ding me a ticket for being to low but it isn't I know the law about if your tire pops is your rim lower than the chassis, which it is.

now guys thats 2 days and a ticket of 109 + 198 = $307

My current position is im going to dispute the 109 dollar ticket(the cop that called me a superstar/celebrity) just cause I want to go to court and just piss him off by saying shit to the judge because i know thats the only place i can call him out on his character because i fuckin hate him lol

but as for the 198 ticket, i was wondering if im unemployed and i dont wanna dispute it is there anyway to pay the ticket in multiple payments? because I defn dont want to pay it all at once while im unemployed.

Dispute both. If the cop doesn't show up on the 198 dollar one tell the judge that you are unemployed/student whatever and he will reduce the fine. I just got a ticket reduced the other day from 198 to 80 with the same bs. If the cop doesn't show then you will pay nothing!

[PiuYi]

Try not saying a single word next time you get pulled over and are asked to step out of the car. Chances are they will let you go, unless they really really want to arrest you knowing that you have commited a crime somewhere.

sounds like im setting myself up for some mace in the face =\


..and again tried to ding me a ticket for being to low but it isn't I know the law about if your tire pops is your rim lower than the chassis, which it is.


really?? ive never even heard of that, does it actually work?

[Psykopathik]

having your car judged as being too low is not only measured by your ground clearance. your headlights also have a minumum height requirement as does the wheel well clearance.

signs of tire rub is enough to get you towed.

don't want tickets, make sure your car complies with the motor vehicle code. otherwise stop fucking complaining.


as for window tint on the front windows, it's legal if you have a medical condition that requires it.

its not legal just because you want to look gangster.

[mr_chin]

http://www.bclaws.ca/Recon/document/freeside/--%20m%20--/motor%20vehicle%20act%20%20rsbc%201996%20%20c.%203 18/00_act/96318_00.htm#FOUND-NOTHING

within the motor vehicle act, where does it state you must have it in the trunk ?

It doesn't but to prevent you from drinking and driving, the cop will either take your alcohol away or ask you to put it in the trunk. Depends if they're a jackass or not.

[Volvo-brickster]

Anyways my license plates are bent and he gave me a huge ticket of 196 dollars..

bent a little or bent a lot just showing the #'s ?

thast brutal

[terkan]

Holy fuck you're dumber then a bag of bricks. My insurance reflected the fact i just bought the car, not the tint, which it did come with. Keep your gay fantasies about judges sodomizing people to yourself. Im sure you can find another forum that will be more excepting of your obvious homoerotic tendencies.

No sir, you're the fucking dumbass. Just because your car "came like that" does not give you the right to have your front window tinted. What if my car came with missile launchers mounted under the headlights a la Bond car?

I sense the court proceedings will be somewhat like this:

You: I bought the car and the front windows came tinted.
Judge: Why did you buy a car that was in violation of the MVA then?
You: *confused look*

[kumbo1]

Holy fuck you're dumber then a bag of bricks. My insurance reflected the fact i just bought the car, not the tint, which it did come with. Keep your gay fantasies about judges sodomizing people to yourself. Im sure you can find another forum that will be more excepting of your obvious homoerotic tendencies.

So why didn't you take off the illegal tint as soon you got the car? only takes 2 minutes with a razor blade. Or you think it's cool with illegal front tint, stupid ricer.

[kumbo1]

bent a little or bent a lot just showing the #'s ?

thast brutal

He probably bent the plates that only the numbers are showing. what an idiot.:D

[Peturbo]

Back when I was in highschool, my social studies teacher had our school constable come in and talk to us about his job, our rights and such.
He was saying that if he pulled somebody over and he had any suspicion that they had something in the vehicle that shouldn't be in there, he would search it illegal or not.
His(the constable) reason being, if he found some drugs, a gun, or anything like that, even if it was an illegal search, that's 1 less gun, 1 less drug of whatever sort off the streets.

That constable was a dick though. lol

[SpoonFit]

Turbo E, I have about 2 finger gaps in all my wheel wells.
Im running 195/50/15's. It's not illegally low.

[RFlush]

I have never had a bad encounter with the police. I guess I am just one of those very few rare people who follows the law and has nothing to hide. :\

[Timpo]

here in victoria, some cops are jerks but a lot of them aren't that bad at all..

sorry about your experience tho :(

[m4k4v4li]

aside from being thrown in the drunk tank for refusing to get out of a cops face

ive actually never had a bad experience with a cop from drivin

and my car looks heatscore as fuck :S

[mr_chin]

No sir, you're the fucking dumbass. Just because your car "came like that" does not give you the right to have your front window tinted. What if my car came with missile launchers mounted under the headlights a la Bond car?

I sense the court proceedings will be somewhat like this:

You: I bought the car and the front windows came tinted.
Judge: Why did you buy a car that was in violation of the MVA then?
You: *confused look*

i can vouch for this. i bought a 91 honda accord with front tinted windows. and no it doesn't take 2 minutes to take it off with a razor blade. i told the exact same story, saying i just bought it like this. which he can see on my transfer paper because i only had the car for about a month. and the tint looked older than that.

i was pulled over, and the cop can see that there are scratch mark that shows an attempt at removing.

i got a ticket, but he said if i show up at court with the tint removed, he'll help me dispute the ticket with the judge.

[you]

my advise...avoid richmond as much as possible

[zulutango]

having your car judged as being too low is not only measured by your ground clearance. your headlights also have a minumum height requirement as does the wheel well clearance.

signs of tire rub is enough to get you towed.

don't want tickets, make sure your car complies with the motor vehicle code. otherwise stop fucking complaining.


as for window tint on the front windows, it's legal if you have a medical condition that requires it.

its not legal just because you want to look gangster.


Actually it is NOT. The Regulations forbid it. If you have a severe medical condition the MVB "may" issue a variance to permit a clear UV tint to be added but they seldom do becaus it destroys the federally required shatter qualities required for the front windows.

[trancehead]

ive had instances speeding where after passing by cops clocking my speed on the side of the road, they just gave me a big thumbs up.

[Gumby]

I did just buy the car dumbass. And it came tinted in the front. My insurance reflected that fact. Additionally, i wont tell you how i will win the case because we need suckers like you that just blindly pay up, so people like me can get away with it.

Holy fuck you're dumber then a bag of bricks. My insurance reflected the fact i just bought the car, not the tint, which it did come with. Keep your gay fantasies about judges sodomizing people to yourself. Im sure you can find another forum that will be more excepting of your obvious homoerotic tendencies.

Holy fuck - the way you wrote your first post implies that your insurance reflects the fact that your car came with tint up front, and nothing about when you purchased your vehicle. So kumbo1 can't be faulted for misinterpreting your post. Since you suck at communication, it's no wonder you couldn't talk yourself out of a ticket.

Dispute both. If the cop doesn't show up on the 198 dollar one tell the judge that you are unemployed/student whatever and he will reduce the fine. I just got a ticket reduced the other day from 198 to 80 with the same bs. If the cop doesn't show then you will pay nothing!
I guess the judge didn't see what kind of car you drove! :p