[BNR32_Coupe]

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since there was 2 threads on the discussion, i made this one to be the end-all be-all on this topic. this article conforms to the MOTOR VEHICLE ACT and note the websites name: DRIVE SMART BC. Not drive stupid, not drive like an oblivious idiot that thinks they're saving lives by slowing everybody elses down, not driving 10km over the speed limit means im allowed in the left lane when somebodys tailing me.



Left Lane Blockers
Wed, 2008-04-09 20:05 — DriveSmartBC

http://www.drivesmartbc.ca/sites/default/files/images/slower_traffic_keep_right.thumbnail.pngNo one likes a left lane blocker. These are the drivers who inhabit the left hand lane on multiple laned roadway and are oblivious to the traffic behind them that want to pass by. Clearly, they believe that if they are travelling at or close to the speed limit, there is no need for them to move over to the right hand lane for others.

If you are driving in the left hand lane and you are driving at a speed less than normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing, you must drive in the right hand lane. It is important to note that the words speed limit do not appear anywhere in the last sentence. If you are slower, move over. If you choose not to, you are at risk of being ticketed for failing to keep to the right.

There are two exemptions to this rule. The first allows you to move into the left lane to pass someone travelling slower than you are and the second allows you to use the left lane to prepare for a left turn at an intersection or into a driveway or private road. Preparation for the left turn will depend on the traffic volume at the time, but it is unlikely that a kilometer or more will be considered acceptable.

Left lane blockers increase the risk caused by aggressive drivers. The aggressive driver cares for no one but themselves and will try to get by using any means available. By refusing to move over, the left lane blocker contributes to unsafe lane changes and tailgating behaviour. A defensive driver will reduce the risk by giving right of way even when the law does not require them to.

Driver on right

150 (1) The driver of a vehicle must confine the course of the vehicle to the right hand half of the roadway if the roadway is of sufficient width and it is practicable to do so, except

(a) when overtaking and passing a vehicle proceeding in the same direction,

(b) when the right hand half of the roadway is closed to traffic while under construction or repair,

(c) on a highway designated and marked by signs for one way traffic,

(d) if necessary when operating snow removing equipment, or

(e) if

(i) the movement of a vehicle, or combination of vehicles, is permitted by and is done in conformity with the terms of the oversize permit issued under the Commercial Transport Act, and

(ii) the width of a vehicle, or combination of vehicles, or the width of a load on the vehicle makes the operation of the vehicle or combination of vehicles on the right hand half of the roadway unsafe.

(2) The driver of a vehicle proceeding at less than normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing must drive the vehicle in the right hand lane then available for traffic, or as closely as practicable to the right hand curb or edge of the roadway, except when overtaking and passing a vehicle proceeding in the same direction, or when preparing for a left hand turn at an intersection or into a private road or driveway.

(3) The driver of a vehicle passing around a rotary traffic island must drive the vehicle to the right of the island.

It doesn't matter if it's a highway, regular city street, gravel dirt road, alleys, even in your local mall or airports ESCALATORS! if you're going slow or not moving, move to the right. Notice how we have parked cars on the right side of the road on 2way streets? Notice how cyclists stay on the right side unless they have to turn left? God.. I can't believe there were some left lane blocking supporters in the previous 2 threads

[hotjoint]

I just hate anyone that doesnt pay attention when they're driving, doesnt matter what lane they're in.

[AzNightmare]

95% of the lane blockers don't realize they are being tailgated... so although I absolutely agree with the OP, this isn't going to solve anything.

[Noir]

*sigh

It's just a matter of courtesy. You can do the speed limit on the fast lane if you want. Just be courteous and move over when someone is behind you and looking to pass.

Either change lane quickly or speed up a little until it's safe to make a lane change.

That's all. Courtesy & Common Sense.

[iEatClams]

this needs to be stickied to every board in BC. also on the front page for every newspaper so people can learn to pay attention and stop driving slow in the left lane.

[fsy82]

^^agreed

[BNR32_Coupe]

*sigh

It's just a matter of courtesy. You can do the speed limit on the fast lane if you want. Just be courteous and move over when someone is behind you and looking to pass.

Either change lane quickly or speed up a little until it's safe to make a lane change.

That's all. Courtesy & Common Sense.

Yeah umm.. you can put it lightly like that.. or you can be like "GTFO of the way SLOW SHIT!"

either way, they won't get the message, i just hope a few members on this board will. flashing highbeams doesnt seem to work either.

[tiger_handheld]

I'm an advocate of "GETFO of the SLOW SHIT!" but I was talking with my buddy, and he brought the opposite pov:

POSTED LIMIT = 50, so, If Bob is driving 50 he is technically going the speed limit. Therefore, he has the right to be on the left lane. Since POSTED LIMIT does not say "Flow of Traffic/hr". BOB is in the right to drive 50 on the left lane.

What do you guys think of that?


I would tail Bob, until he moves to the right so I can be on on my way, but my buddy made me think, and now I'm more understanding of "Slow" drivers.

[CRS]

You guys do realize that tailgating is an actual offense right..?

Besides, if the driver in front of you is dumb enough to not know the "keep to the right if you're going slow rule", do you really think the person is going to be the type to realize you're tailgating? Not to mention that if this person slams on the brakes, who do you think will be at fault? Oh and do you think that this is the type of person that is looking for a free lunch with injury?

I think so.

[BNR32_Coupe]

I'm an advocate of "GETFO of the SLOW SHIT!" but I was talking with my buddy, and he brought the opposite pov:

POSTED LIMIT = 50, so, If Bob is driving 50 he is technically going the speed limit. Therefore, he has the right to be on the left lane. Since POSTED LIMIT does not say "Flow of Traffic/hr". BOB is in the right to drive 50 on the left lane.

What do you guys think of that?


I would tail Bob, until he moves to the right so I can be on on my way, but my buddy made me think, and now I'm more understanding of "Slow" drivers.

Your buddy is wrong, and he's the type of person im trying to reach across with this thread. There should be no reason to slow down another person. Even if you're already breaking the law and going 60 in the left lane, if buddy wants to go 80, you must move over to let him pass. No exceptions to slowing down society, except when you have to turn left,etc. There's a thread on this in the police forum already, and the even the police agree

[CRS]

Your buddy is wrong, and he's the type of person im trying to reach across with this thread. There should be no reason to slow down another person. Even if you're already breaking the law and going 60 in the left lane, if buddy wants to go 80, you must move over to let him pass. No exceptions to slowing down society, except when you have to turn left,etc. There's a thread on this in the police forum already, and the even the police agree

This is true. If someone really wants to break the law like that, there isn't really anyone to spot that person. If you are going slower or at traffic keep right. Left lane is for passing cars that are going faster. Though his might mean breaking the law, it is the decision of the person to make for themselves. If they want to get a speeding ticket, you shouldn't be the one to prevent them.

And you never want to put yourself in a position where the aggressive driver targets you instead of just himself/herself.

[Drift_Monkey]

I'm ok with city streets, but on the highway the left lane shouldn't really be clogged up with slow drivers.

I wish they would ticket people for blocking those who want to pass.

Even better, they should make the left lanes 20km/hr faster than the right.

so for those who want to drive 80km stay right, and those driving 100km can use the left lane.

[feelthesunrise]

this morning on hwy 1 eastbound, i passed about 25 cars that were going 75km in the left lane while i was going 100km on the right lane which was left completely wide open lol.

that should NOT have happened the way it did. fuck stupid drivers.

[Berzerker]

I've always stated that if you get passed on the right.. your in the wrong fucking lane. If you ever see a car moving faster than you on your right... move over cuz your holding up traffic.

Berz out.

[lilaznviper]

i remember during my class 7 test, i had to drive on the left lane and slow down traffic with people honking me lol

but still people on the left lane going as fast as the people on the right lane pisses me off

[Marco911]

How about this: left lane blocking slows the flow of all traffic behind. If emergency vehicles need to respond quickly, they may not be able to because of congested traffic. So keep your ass to the right.

[Drift_Monkey]

Highways

Speedsters on the Left. (even if you are speeding 50km over) eg Auto Bahn.

Slow asses on the right. ( when you are not passing and just cruising at speed limit)

The city needs to advertise this shit all over the roads and TV.

[jimzilla]

I hate it when the person in the left lane is on the phone or something and I have to move to the right to pass and as I pass they give you the deer in headlights look with a cell phone to their ear and mouth wide open as something is shocking that they are being passed on the wrong lane

[Meowjin]

ugh, when i travel to the states it always states slower traffic keep to the right. We have a choice to speed or go above the posted limit, we are actually encouraged to in society they need speeders because its a blatent tax on people.

In the states they have signs on the road that say something along the lines of "5 cars pull over in passing zone"

I speed, but I can't stand people who drive side by side going the same speed in the city. It makes me want to gouge my fucking eyes out with a rusty spoon.

[vna888]

Yes I agree that you shouldn't block the left lane on the highway or in the city. But I disagree that you(woob thinks this, but you and some others seem to imply this too) somehow think that if one guy wants to go 80 while "flow" is 60-70, EVERYONE should move over thus creating a "merge point" at every single block. Let's face it, after the 20 cars move(haha funny idealistic concept) and the slow lane slows to a crawl, that speeder going 80 (already WAY TOO FAST in the CITY) now catches up with traffic stopped at the light up ahead (+ more because cross streets will always dump more traffic onto your street so it never ends), and now another merge point commences up ahead.

This is YOUR idea of traffic? Give me a fuckin break.

If there's LITTLE traffic, then YES use the left lane to pass, do whatever. But if there's flow and everyone's doing above the limit ALREADY, there comes a point where you should realize that the guy who wants to go 80 is IN THE WRONG. Not the 50+ "left lane blockers" up ahead.

Know what else is funny? That website is written by Skidmark and all I totally respect that but look it says:


If you are driving in the left hand lane and you are driving at a speed less than normal speed of traffic at the time and place and under the conditions then existing, you must drive in the right hand lane. It is important to note that the words speed limit do not appear anywhere in the last sentence. If you are slower, move over. If you choose not to, you are at risk of being ticketed for failing to keep to the right.

So if the flow is 60-70, what makes that guy who wants to do 80 the "normal speed of traffic" ?
You have a point if you just said "don't drive the limit in the left lane when flow is 60-70". But instead you and the other few supporters of aggressive driving, expect everyone to move over when flow is already 60-70 because of ONE guy going 80 (who btw won't get anywhere any faster due to traffic lights, left turners, and simply TRAFFIC - but this isn't my point).

[Meowjin]

^shutup you dumb troll, you are a dangerous driver and I'd beat the fuck out of you in rl.

[vna888]

Highways

Speedsters on the Left. (even if you are speeding 50km over) eg Auto Bahn.

Slow asses on the right. ( when you are not passing and just cruising at speed limit)

The city needs to advertise this shit all over the roads and TV.

Yes the City needs to ADVERTISE THIS about highway driving.
What they should advertise is that on the highway, keep right except to pass (maybe have "Keep Right Except to Pass" signs).
On city streets, particularly metropolitan areas, if and ONLY if traffic volume permits this, KEEP RIGHT except to pass (or turn left w/e). But that this isn't feasible all the time due to traffic volume.
And no trying go faster than the flow just because you think you're fuckin god.

[vna888]

*edit* see later posts
some people can't read

[CRS]

:haha::haha::haha::haha:
Your e-penis sure grew another inch right when you posted that.

Funny how the guy going with the flow is the dangerous driver, but the idiot who wants to go 10km FASTER than the flow and get everyone to move out of his way, ISNT the dangerous driver? Not to mention this is in the fuckin CITY.

Well, if he backs off from meeting you IRL, then yes, he is an e-thugger. But if you and him actually meet and he kicks your ass. Not so much.

Making a rebuttal like that is only trying to grow your own e-penis. Why not man up and kick his ass IRL? You know, since you're acting like you can defend yourself, I don't see a reason not to.

[vna888]

lol that's funny.
"wtf happened? Oh we had a fight on the internet and it led to this...."

[maxx]

I'd love to thank 92% of people who use the 91 HWY to the US border, because all 92% of you move over when people need to pass you.

I take that highway quite a lot to drive to the US and its excellent there.

[Mancini]

I just hate anyone that doesnt pay attention when they're driving, doesnt matter what lane they're in.

Aren't you 15 years old?

[CRS]

lol that's funny.
"wtf happened? Oh we had a fight on the internet and it led to this...."

Sounds like you're backing off. Good choice.

:thumbsup:

[Mancini]

I've come to realize that the majority of people in the lower mainland honestly, truly do not know that there is any distinction between the right and left lanes. They're not being deliberately obnoxious. They seriously don't know better.

Get out of the city (i.e. the drive to Calgary) and you will see proper road etiquette.

Some countries in Europe have this down pat. When your rear bumper is 5 feet in front of the front bumper of the car you've just passed, you move to the right lane NOW! It's so beautiful. It makes me cry like a happy, little girl.

[bengy]

that's why you install one of these on your car

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjycPit1DPo

[woob]

^^^ mmmeeehhhhh not as funny s the first time I saw it

[BNR32_Coupe]

http://www.usedjdmparts.net/code/645e6bfdd05d1a69c5e47b20f0a91d46.gif
:haha::haha::haha::haha:
Your e-penis sure grew another inch right when you posted that.

Funny how the guy going with the flow is the dangerous driver, but the idiot who wants to go 10km FASTER than the flow and get everyone to move out of his way, ISNT the dangerous driver? Not to mention this is in the fuckin CITY.


EDIT
BNR32, my bad I forgot to add this:

As you have quoted from the MVA:



So again, what makes the asshole who wants to go 80 "the normal speed of traffic" ? I'd say if everyone is going 70, THAT is the normal speed of traffic.

Oh and your opening few sentences shows you can't read.
So you made this thread in response to the 2 threads I made (1st one was in fight club which I had a mod delete because it turned ugly - MY BAD now I know turning ugly is cool in the fight club).

You said


Since your post was in response to me, WHEN (seriously QUOTE me) did I say it was ok to drive 50 in the left lane continuously? *shakes head*

What you (and some other idiots) are suggesting is that if flow is 60-70, and some idiot wants to do 80, EVERYONE in front should GTFO. That's just RETARDED in city traffic. If there's a natural flow already, just enjoy the drive.
Again, seeing as you've quoted Skidmark and the MVA... the word "EVERYONE" coincides with "natural speed of traffic".

less than normal speed of traffic <-- this means the speed of which the traffic is generally flowing. ie, 65km/h can be the normal speed of traffic on oak street during rush hour

if it meant the speed limit, then it would say "less than the posted speed limit"

ok got any more or are you done? slower traffic move right, do you understand this yet?

[vna888]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!:haha::haha:

Someone can't read again
let me spell it out for you. Lmao

I said:
So if the flow is 60-70, what makes that guy who wants to do 80 the "normal speed of traffic" ?
You have a point if you just said "don't drive the limit in the left lane when flow is 60-70". But instead you and the other few supporters of aggressive driving, expect everyone to move over when flow is already 60-70 because of ONE guy going 80 (who btw won't get anywhere any faster due to traffic lights, left turners, and simply TRAFFIC - but this isn't my point).

I'm sorry bro, but if the speed of the 'flow' is 60-70 and I'm going at 60-70, I'm not traveling at "less than normal" speeds. Normal is now defined as 60-70 because that's the speed of the flow. Got it?
The guy doing 80 is not the "normal speed of traffic" as stated in the MVA. The crowd doing 60-70 is.

Clearly you seem to have trouble reading.

Now, if the 'flow' is at 70 and I decide to go 50 continually in the left lane, then YES I will GTFO. I've stated that 10000 times in my posts but you people can't read.

[Culture_Vulture]

^either that or you're bringing across a point nobody agrees with,
ever thought of that, Einstein?

[tiger_handheld]

^ lets say u see a guy behind u screaming down at 80k while you and the 20 other cars in the left lane are doing 65k, in a 50zone.

a) do you move to the left and let the 80k guy pass

b) you keep going 65 in the left cuz "you are going with the flow" , while the guy on the right lane is obeying the limit and going 50?


pick one mr.

[BNR32_Coupe]

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!:haha::haha:

Someone can't read again
let me spell it out for you. Lmao

I said:


I'm sorry bro, but if the speed of the 'flow' is 60-70 and I'm going at 60-70, I'm not traveling at "less than normal" speeds. Normal is now defined as 60-70 because that's the speed of the flow. Got it?
The guy doing 80 is not the "normal speed of traffic" as stated in the MVA. The crowd doing 60-70 is.

Clearly you seem to have trouble reading.

Now, if the 'flow' is at 70 and I decide to go 50 continually in the left lane, then YES I will GTFO. I've stated that 10000 times in my posts but you people can't read.

in your original post in your other thread, you were asking why cant people drive slow in the left lane? what if they have to look for street names or something? blah blah. buddy, if somebody is tailing you or coming at you at a fast speed, move over. why is that so hard to understand?

VNA88: MAN THE BATTLE STATIONS, THIS GUY THINKS IM GOING TO MOVE OVER FOR HIM! I'll show him.. he'll wish he never wanted to pass anybody ever again after this! MWAHAHAHA *flicks on left turn signal*

what makes you feel so stubborn that you have to hold your ground? what gives you the right to draw the line at 80kmh? what if the guy was going 79km/h? would you move over for him then? what about 74kmh? 71kmh? who are you to judge who to let through, and who to keep behind?

the rules have been clearly outlined as stated by the law. slower traffic keep right. just because theres 30 other ppl infront of you all going slow too, doesnt make it OK for you to be a part of the problem. be a part of the SOLUTION and move over.

when im in the left lane and i see a guy move over for me because im going faster, i think in my head "god damn, don't see drivers like that very often!!" and i would give them the thank you wave but thats a little too corny. when i see people turn into the closest lanes without cutting lanes, i think the same thing.

but when i see scum like you blocking the road, i get so bitter.. bitter because you're ignorance is costing other people time. and no matter how you try to spin it, twist it, argue it, time IS money.

[BNR32_Coupe]

^ lets say u see a guy behind u screaming down at 80k while you and the 20 other cars in the left lane are doing 65k, in a 50zone.

a) do you move to the left and let the 80k guy pass

b) you keep going 65 in the left cuz "you are going with the flow" , while the guy on the right lane is obeying the limit and going 50?


pick one mr.

I pick A and move the fuck over because I know my place is in the slow lane if theres a faster guy behind me. I expect the same from other people.

[Marco911]

What you (and some other idiots) are suggesting is that if flow is 60-70, and some idiot wants to do 80, EVERYONE in front should GTFO. That's just RETARDED in city traffic. If there's a natural flow already, just enjoy the drive.
Again, seeing as you've quoted Skidmark and the MVA... the word "EVERYONE" coincides with "natural speed of traffic".[/QUOTE]

Ever heard of the "theory of constraints" shit-for-brains? If some idiot decides that he should drive at 60 next to another idiot driving at 60, the traffic flow becomes 60 even if the natural flow might have been 80. Just stay out of the way of faster drivers, so they can pass you on the left, or the right (in the city) and on the left on highways. It's not up to you to decide that faster drivers should drive the same speed as you because you are driving at the flow.

Coles Notes: The flow is determined by the slowest driver(s) on the road impeding the ability of any other driver to pass them. If everyone drove in a way that allowed faster drivers to get by, traffic would move far more efficiently.

[vna888]

^either that or you're bringing across a point nobody agrees with,
ever thought of that, Einstein?

Only because they think they're the shit and know everything about traffic. By they it's only a few people. I know there are a lot of people on here who see my point. They're just not cocky asses like some of you.

^ lets say u see a guy behind u screaming down at 80k while you and the 20 other cars in the left lane are doing 65k, in a 50zone.

a) do you move to the left and let the 80k guy pass

b) you keep going 65 in the left cuz "you are going with the flow" , while the guy on the right lane is obeying the limit and going 50?


pick one mr.

that's drastically different than calling me a "dangerous" driver or an idiot "left lane blocker". Trust me, I'M not the dangerous driver in that situation if there are 20+ cars in front of me too. This is IN THE CITY.

So why would BNR32 bring up the MVA when even the MVA doesn't support going 80 while the flow is 65 which is what I said? Your "what would you rather...." scenario is irrelevant with what the other supporters of aggressive driving are saying.

If you can read what my point was I said also

If there's LITTLE traffic, then YES use the left lane to pass, do whatever. But if there's flow and everyone's doing above the limit ALREADY, there comes a point where you should realize that the guy who wants to go 80 is IN THE WRONG.

Getting everyone in front to merge to the right because of ONE guy...give me a break? I condone using the left lane to pass and I condone moving to the right if I'm travelling at less than normal speeds, but you're really pushing this.

If you want to make this a "what would you rather have" scenario, then I can come up with a million others to circumvent all the other rules of the road.

I'm not saying I will sit in the left lane at 50 while the flow is 65. I did say however, that ALL TRAFFIC in front (which will be endless once you get to the next block and so on) should NOT have to move over (huge merging going on in the slow lane) for one idiot who wants to go 80. You think THIS is the solution to traffic problems? By responding to this by saying "GTFO" you're simply supporting aggressive driving, and at the same time, suggesting that all vehicles should bend over backwards for 1 idiot

[124Y]

SLOWER is a relative definition, not an absolute.

To be more extreme, if you're doing 1000km/h on the left lane and a guy behind you is doing Mach 2, you should still move over and let him pass despite the fact that you're going faster than a 747.

[vna888]

**ppl cant read**
see later posts

[vna888]

If you want to get into a debate about why someone might go a bit slower (but not below the limit) when they are watching out for their turn coming up (small street signs, many other factors)...

read this post VERY carefully
http://www.revscene.net/forums/showpost.php?p=6478762&postcount=92

just because you're passing through a business district doesn't mean someone else's destination isn't around that area.


btw
You said to me in the other topic "why are you trying to argue the law"
Well, you just posted the law and I just showed you why the law doesn't contradict what I said. It supports what I said, in fact.

Now don't throw in a "what would you rather have...." scenario because like I said, the whole left lane (40-50-100) cars should not all have to bend over backwards for one idiot, causing the slow lane to be fucked.
Where do you draw the line bro? Just man up and say the idiot going 80 while flow is 65 IN THE CITY is in the wrong and should not be driving.

[tonyvu]

pet peeve of mine... slow drivers in the left lane -.-

[vna888]

pet peeve of mine... slow drivers in the left lane -.-

slow drivers as in....one idiot going 50-55 in the left lane continually while the flow is 65-70?

Or slow driver as in...70 in both lanes (read, both lanes full), but YOU want to do 80? (not accusing you). Just saying.

If it's the former (I hope it is), then I fully agree that they should GTFO!!!!11111!!11!

[BNR32_Coupe]

vna888 your original post was basically arguing that you're too lazy to make the effort to even attempt to get into the right lane because it's too jammed up. you changed your argument from its OK to drive the limit in the slow lane, to you only had that altercation with that dude because you had to turn left anyways.

look, you obviously failed. im not even reading half of your posts anymore because you just type too much. if i wanted to, i could go back and quote you every time you said something that supported your original argument of blocking the fast* lane.

now before you go to bed... drink a glass of milk, pray that you wont get owned next time on RS, then go to sleep. tomorrow's another day, young guy.

[BNR32_Coupe]

slow drivers as in....one idiot going 50-55 in the left lane continually while the flow is 65-70?

Or slow driver as in...70 in both lanes (read, both lanes full), but YOU want to do 80? (not accusing you). Just saying.

If it's the former (I hope it is), then I fully agree that they should GTFO!!!!11111!!11!

You don't understand.. it doesn't matter what speed everyone is going, it doesnt matter what the speed limit is, it doesnt matter how dangerous it is -- slower traffic move right. good night

[vna888]

Again,
I never said it was ok to drive continually at 50 in the left lane? Where are you getting this from? Care to provide a quote? Unbelievable lol...
1-2 blocks if you're preparing to turn is okay. It IS a city after all.

[vna888]

It's funny how you provide the MVA in your original post. I pointed out the whole issue with "driving less than the normal speed of traffic", yet here you are saying it doesn't matter if someone wants to go above the normal speed of traffic (you just insulted the MVA right there). Everyone should GTFO. So is that idiot now considered the "normal speed of traffic" ?

Why provide the MVA quote in the first place if you now choose to ignore what it says?

[Qmx323]

Scenario 1) You're on your way to work. Everyone on both lanes are cruising at 60, not because the people in the left lane are slow drivers, but because of the sheer volume of cars and the light patterns, everyone is stuck at 60. You're the last guy in the pack of the left lane. You see some guy zoom towards you from behind going about 80km in the city. He starts tailing you. (mind you the following distance in the city when its jammed isn't very far anyways) You don't even notice him tailing you. He starts honking and flipping the bird at you. What do you do? Stay on the left because both lanes are going 60 anyways? or switch to the right lane, only for him to come up beside you and start tailing the next guy?

If the flow is at 65 (15 over the speed limit), why should we move over to the right lane for a guy going 80km if the sign clearly says Slower Traffic keep right while the speed limit is 50 if the flow is at 65? That is in no way under the term of Slower Traffic keep right

I'm not gonna side with anyone as I rarely drive in the left lane ANYWAYS. That is just my opinion.

How about this, let's all play nice and stop thinking that winning this argument is gonna get rid of all the "left lane blockers" (however you wanna define them) on the roads. Thank you, and good night.

[vna888]

Fair enough.
Now one last msg before i stfu tonight:

From your scenario 1)

there are 2 responses I can think of:

1. Just move over, the guy's a fuckin moron trying to overtake everyone who's already going pretty fast (in the fuckin city). Your safety is not worth it, if he's honking at you and fingering you and shit, just move over let him tail the guy in front. He's the one fucking up the flow.

2. YOU'RE the fuckin asshole blocking the left lane (along with the 20+ cars in front). MOVE OVER you fuckin idiot. SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT for that one guy! (MVA doesn't support this).

big difference here. I mean calling ME the dangerous driver for going with the flow. (the guy wasnt honking or fingering) but just saying. Not once did they acknowledge how big a douche the other guy is. That's sure pro-aggressive driving right there. In fact, they think everyone should merge to the slow lane just for that one guy AUTOMATICALLY which results in crawling traffic in the slow lane. If that's how traffic works then yikes is all I can say.

good night

[BNR32_Coupe]

Fair enough.
Now before I stfu for the night:

From your scenario 1)

there are 2 responses I can think of:

1. Just move over, the guy's a fuckin moron trying to overtake everyone who's already going pretty fast (in the fuckin city). Your safety is not worth it, if he's honking at you and fingering you and shit, just move over let him tail the guy in front. He's the one fucking up the flow.

2. YOU'RE the fuckin asshole blocking the left lane (along with the 20+ cars in front). MOVE OVER you fuckin idiot. SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT for that one guy! (MVA doesn't support this).

big difference here. I mean calling ME the dangerous driver for going with the flow. (the guy wasnt honking or fingering) but just saying. Not once did they acknowledge how big a douche the other guy is. That's sure pro-aggressive driving right there. In fact, they think everyone should merge to the slow lane just for that one guy AUTOMATICALLY. If that's how traffic works then yikes is all I can say.

DINGDINGDINGDING!!!

f_aM6nRXSCs

DOUBLE WIN BECAUSE BOTH ANSWERS ARE RIGHT!!
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you get a special green star this time, because you realize that its better to be a part of the solution than the problem!

[vna888]

lol shit you responded fast

woops I made a mistake, in that post you quoted me. I meant that you and other idiots responded as #2, immediately blaming the left lane driver, not even acknowledging how dangerous the other idiot is, or how dangerous it is to go faster than the flow IN THE CITY. Again, traffic is not gonna automatically merge to the right thereby slowing the right lane to a crawl, for 1 idiot.

So yeah about the MVA eh? You should read it carefully. You just got owned in post 48

good night

[BNR32_Coupe]

lol shit you responded fast

woops I made a mistake, in that post you quoted me. I meant that you and other idiots responded as #2, immediately blaming the left lane driver, not even acknowledging how dangerous the other idiot is, or how dangerous it is to go faster than the flow IN THE CITY. Again, traffic is not gonna automatically merge to the right thereby slowing the right lane to a crawl, for 1 idiot.

So yeah about the MVA eh? You should read it carefully. You just got owned in post 48

good night

what about post 45


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[maxx]

fuck ya buddy, but there's a 50 cal on top and god knows how many peeps inside with 7.62 ammo

[yangwenli]

People in canada should take their road test in the US

[SpuGen]

Boo hoo MVA boo hoo flow of traffic boo hoo I drive slow so I'm a safe driver


The MVA says alot of things. 90% of people don't follow at least one rule at any given time.

Whats it to you if the guy behind you wants to speed?
Oh no! you have to shoulder check and signal to get into the right lane.
If the guy wants to speed, move the fuck over and let him get a ticket. Laugh at him for being stuck behind the guy that was in front of you.

Quit making useless posts on RS just because you're an angry little boy in the slow car. Who are we hurting by going a little quicker than "the flow of traffic" Nobody. I wanna waste my gas to go a little quicker than you, so move. Apologies for not being frugal on mileage.

And hey. Random questions of the day.
How old are you?
Driving experience?
Car?
Average commute in distance?
Location of Commute?

What makes you think that you're the driving god, and have the balls to go on RS and tell it's members that they're dangerous drivers, when YOU'RE the one thats being an idiot. Everybody else here gets it except for you. Move the fuck on over regardless of the average flow of traffic. You, being an obstruction creates the traffic volume that you keep preaching. The more of you idiots there are, the more traffic volume there is. Traffic volume in turn makes the average speed drop, which creates more stress for the drivers that need to get somewhere. Stress creates Road rage, and Road Rage means I'm gonna tailgate and flash my highbeams at you until you get the point to move the fuck on over.

If you're one of those assholes that box faster drivers in, or brake check them "for fun and so they slow down OMG DANGEROUS" You're gonna get run off the road one day, or you're going to cause an accident by doing so. It's not because the guy was speeding, it's because you're making it unsafe for yourself and other drivers around you by not moving the fuck over. The guy whos speeding is statistically the more dangerous driver, so wouldn't it make sense to make it safer for yourself by letting the dangerous driver ahead so they can get into the theoretical accident AWAY from you?. We have it easy that we're in Vancouver and theres not that many people that road rage. Go anywhere else in the world and you're going to get run off the road or get killed. I'm not even throwing in the probably. It's a fact.

SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT MEANS MOVE THE FUCK OVER

[Marco911]

Damn, you're like a broken record. If you're driving on a city street and the guy behind you can pass on the right, you're correct, he's a moron for tailgating you. If he can't get by you because you're beside someone then speed up and move the fuck over.

[vna888]

what about post 45

What your blind accusations? I responded in post 47. It's amazing how you read things in my posts which I did not actually type.

The MVA says alot of things. 90% of people don't follow at least one rule at any given time.
boo hoo how biased can you be? He specifically BROUGHT UP the MVA trying to prove his dumb point (that traffic should bend over backwards for 1 guy when flow is already pretty damn fast on city streets). HE brought it up, so why can't I counter with the very thing he brought up? now it's "it doesn't matter what the MVA says".....
great.


Whats it to you if the guy behind you wants to speed?
Traffic in both lanes. That's what it is. City streets, safety of others. Plain and simple don't be a moron trying to overtake 20 cars in front if you want to go 10 above when everyone is already going pretty fast.


Quit making useless posts on RS just because you're an angry little boy in the slow car. Who are we hurting by going a little quicker than "the flow of traffic" Nobody. I wanna waste my gas to go a little quicker than you, so move. Apologies for not being frugal on mileage.
"slow car". I'm not the slow car when I'm going with the flow. You're the one being a fuckin dickhead thinking the CITY streets is your personal racetrack.
I don't care if you want to waste gas. Go AROUND me then. Take a diff route so you don't force 20+ cars in front to merge to the right just for YOU.


What makes you think that you're the driving god, and have the balls to go on RS and tell it's members that they're dangerous drivers, when YOU'RE the one thats being an idiot.
I never said I was the driving god. So telling people that expecting 50 cars in front to GTFO for one guy who wants to go 80 around slower traffic (every one else is going with the flow) is retarded makes me a god? wtf? It's called common sense and consideration of the safety of other drivers.


the more of you idiots there are, the more traffic volume there is. Traffic volume in turn makes the average speed drop blah blah
Spoken just like a typical speeder(speeder is ok, but more like reckless speeder) who has no consideration for others. Ever heard of traffic lights? Left turners, right turners, parallel parkers, and simply TRAFFIC VOLUME? Why do you somehow assume that drivers all going 70 is what's causing volume or shitty traffic? You're on CITY STREETS.
Take your argument to the highway and you might not sound so fuckin stupid (because left turners, traffic lights, other factors, no longer exist).

There's a big difference between saying that "on an individual level, if the driver is honking and fingering you and everything, it's best to just try to move over and let the dangerous driver not tailgate you. Let that asshole tailgate someone else"

The attitude you and other posters present is that everyone should GTFO for ONE driver who wants to go 10 above everyone else. Yeah...THAT's gonna solve our traffic problems:rolleyes:. The other attitude you present is that "drivers who move to the left lane because they plan to turn left soon (for various reasons I presented before) are ASSHOLES because they're slowing me down".

LOL
ever forget we're driving in the city?

ON the highway I totally agree with you. Just don't be so passionate about this "law" when you're in the city and traffic volume (+traffic lights etc.) does not permit the left lane to be always empty.

[vna888]

Seems like I'm just repeating myself.
So stop siding with the idiot driver trying to blow past everyone else at 80 and think everyone else should MOVE THE FUCK OVER. Where do you guys draw the line? 90 kph? 100?

Mr. SpuGen, I think everyone going 70 from traffic light to traffic light seems reasonably good. How is this bad traffic? It's certainly better than everyone merging to the right for 1 idiot. The left turner(s) in front won't be moving, neither will the guy whos planning on turning left in 1 or 2 blocks, and now your idealistic scenario is fucked, and traffic is EVEN worse now and more dangerous with the 50+ lane changes going on at once. ALL because of one idiot. If you support this, then from now on, all I'll hear from you is "blah blah blah...I'm a tool".

Thankfully, this "everyone bend over backwards for 1 guy" mentality only exists in your minds, because it will never happen in real life in the city (thank god - traffic would be 10x worse).

I've said many times, people will be in the left lane for various reasons, especially since you're in the CITY. Got it?



One last thing. If you've ever searched youtube about "idiot left lane hogs" or w/e, they all have one thing in common, and that's that THEY ALL TAKE PLACE ON THE HIGHWAY. Because most people are smart enough to realize that traffic volume + traffic lights + left turners and other crap make this 'keep right' law useless in the city.

cheers good bye
and just accept it.:thumbsup:
and remember, give other drivers the benefit of the doubt if they happen to be going slow for 1-2 blocks in the left for some reason. Maybe they're gonna turn off soon and are just making sure they see the street sign before signaling that left turn (so YOU will have ample warning). If not just pass on the right. kthx bye

[vna888]

^
note that I never said it'd be ok to drive continually at 50 in the left if everyone else is going 70.

But some idiots will accuse me of this again.
lol

cheers
bye

[BNR32_Coupe]

highway, as defined in the MVA, includes city streets complete with lights, pedestrians, traffic. roadways would be alleys i believe.

pedestrian traffic flows like cars do, slower traffic keeps right. people that need to look in shops or stores look from the right side of the sidewalk, not from the middle. if you're on an escalator, keep right if you choose to stand!

regardless of w/e you do... SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT!! stop trying to argue this.

[blum2001]

You forgot to answer SpuGen's questions below in your long list of replies. I'm sure I'm not the only one curious.




And hey. Random questions of the day.
How old are you?
Driving experience?
Car?
Average commute in distance?
Location of Commute?

[vna888]

highway, as defined in the MVA, includes city streets complete with lights, pedestrians, traffic. roadways would be alleys i believe.
Ok fine, take your argument to the FREEWAY/EXPRESSWAY then. Happy?
I'm sure I'm not the only one who would refer to Highway 1 as "highway" but hastings as "city street".
If you think the youtube vids about 'left lane hogs' look like city streets then you need some thick ass glasses bro.


people that need to look in shops or stores look from the right side of the sidewalk, not from the middle.
blah blah blah you're the king of the streets

Regarding areas where one might be in the left lane to look for where to turn left:

I can't believe you expect someone who's gonna turn left soon to KEEP AN EYE OUT for their turn (doesn't matter if it's a store, they're gonna turn left soon anyway) IN THE RIGHT LANE.
that's some brilliant logic there!
:haha:

You know what, someone who's planning on turning right.....should do so in the LEFT LANE by your logic! Then change lanes at the last second..

newsflash, this is very dangerous, not to mention ANYONE with half a mind will tell you to change lanes ahead of time because if you do it at the last minute you might not be able to given volume, spacing, other drivers not letting you in.

again read this post
http://www.revscene.net/forums/showpost.php?p=6478762&postcount=92

VERY carefully as you can't seem to understand that.

[woob]

cheers
bye

You said bye. Can you please just stfu now. Evidently your opinion differs from that of the majority of this board.


remember to stick to the right side of the road, kids.
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[SuperSlowSS]

remember to stick to the right side of the road, kids.
http://failblog.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/fail-driving.jpg

oh shit, I saw that driving down garden city before. it was intense... rush hour traffic vs one car. haha


as for the op.. you know the best solution to this problem? give yourself more than enough time... then you can be the asshole that block everybody. because you have to go slow or you will get to the destination too early. hahaha :D

[vna888]

It's funny because everyone just ignores reason and simply respond with 'gtfo of the left lane'! lol no I know plenty of people who understand that given traffic volume in the city, the left lane rule is hardly a rule at all in the city when you have left turners, traffic lights, TRAFFIC volume. Only on the freeway/highway/expressway or city streets at night time with little traffic can you reasonably argue this.

Yeah I'm done. lol it was originally a rant (other thread). Nothing more. People respond, therefore I respond. It becomes an argument/debate. It was fun. Now it's just boring because nobody can use logic and reason and common sense to realize there's a limit to "slower traffic keep right" in the freakin city.

Find a way to refute this:
Regarding areas where one might be in the left lane to look for where to turn left:

I can't believe you expect someone who's gonna turn left soon to KEEP AN EYE OUT for their turn (doesn't matter if it's a store, they're gonna turn left soon anyway) IN THE RIGHT LANE.
that's some brilliant logic there!

You know what, someone who's planning on turning right.....should do so in the LEFT LANE by your logic! Then change lanes at the last second..

newsflash, this is very dangerous, not to mention ANYONE with half a mind will tell you to change lanes ahead of time because if you do it at the last minute you might not be able to given volume, spacing, other drivers not letting you in.

again read this post
http://www.revscene.net/forums/showp...2&postcount=92

or this


I think everyone going 70 from traffic light to traffic light seems reasonably good. How is this bad traffic? It's certainly better than everyone merging to the right for 1 idiot. The left turner(s) in front won't be moving, neither will the guy whos planning on turning left in 1 or 2 blocks, and now your idealistic scenario is fucked, and traffic is EVEN worse now and more dangerous with the 50+ lane changes going on at once. ALL because of one idiot. If you support this, then from now on, all I'll hear from you is "blah blah blah...I'm a tool".

Thankfully, this "everyone bend over backwards for 1 guy" mentality only exists in your minds, because it will never happen in real life in the city (thank god - traffic would be 10x worse).


with something a little more intelligent than simply saying "slower traffic keep right" and maybe I'll be a little more accepting of your opinions of dangerous speeding in city traffic.

until then,
just stfu and pass on the right, or just go with the flow. Don't expect the 20+ cars in front of you to all merge to the right lane just for you. How selfish can you be? You think that's the solution to our traffic problems? :haha: If it was, believe me, there'd be much stricter laws enforcing this IN THE CITY. But there aren't, and for good reason: traffic volume doesn't permit this

goodbye (unless someone actually forms an intelligent response to my points above)

[q0192837465]

They should just make the driving test harder

[BNR32_Coupe]

look, just stay the fuck out of the left lane.

[!LittleDragon]

I hate left lane hogs too but I learned a long time ago not to stress over it. During rush hour, nothing can be done. There's just too many cars. One thing I'd like to see is no left turns on major routes like Granville, Oak and Cambie unless there's a left turn bay. To go left, make 3 right turns instead.

[SpuGen]

So you're not going to answer my questions huh?

I'm just gonna assume you're a guy with less than 5 years of driving experience who drives his moms Corolla and can't afford the extra dollar on gas to go a little faster. You also don't travel more than 40 kms a day, and you've never gone more than 20 over the limit. Or I could be wrong, and you used to speed, but got into an accident and now you're too scared to go a little quicker. So you've deemed yourself as the traffic vigilante who fights speeders one at a time with your iron fist rule of left lane blocking. Unknowingly, you've slowed down other commuters from getting places, and more than a few people have either lost their job, was late for an interview, missed seeing somebody for the last time, caused a breakup, or made somebody lose a business deal because they were late. However, in your tiny little mind, you think that you're always right, and it's everybody else that sucks at driving because they want to go a little faster one car at a time. It's not your fault that you can't afford the extra dollar on gas, you need that to play Maximum Tune and have an epic battle with players who are faster than you. So what do you do? you block them and cause them to rearend another car or bump the wall because you're too slow to catch up on the next turn. You're also the guy who sucks at playing Battle Gear, and you slam on your brakes for no reason because the guy behind you is hauling ass about to pass you, and you can't have that can you?

No, you can't. Because you rule with the Iron Fist of left lane blocking, and you along with your other members of the Slow Drivers Communist Party are wasting other peoples time one at a time. And on your allied front, you are the blood brothers if the Critical Mass Cyclists. Touche.

See, I can make assumptions about people too. Except, I didn't have to make a thread about it.

Funny thing is, even my mom knows the rule of Slower Traffic Keep Right, and shes a 40-something Chinese lady who speeds around blasting her Church music.

[vna888]

^lol this is just getting funny
because going with the flow at 70, plenty of traffic in each lane. I'm the idiot that's causing the guy to "get fired, lose a loved one, w/e bs" :haha:
You need to make a correction. Me + 50+ cars in front are the assholes :). The speeder is correct :) everyone should gtfo. I think the cops would side with you :)
Read my previous post. If you can't refute it. Keep making up more bullshit:haha:

anyway --
reason I'm posting is because I need to add: earlier discussion about passing on the right being illegal is false. The MVA says as long as the lane is a traveling lane, it's legal. So I lol at the guy who says this causes the driver behind to do something illegal.

[bengy]

go with the flow in the right lane, left lane is for me to pass you at 80 kthxbye. and if you are making a left turn, better know ahead of time where it is, not slow down for 5 blocks looking for it. it's called mapping out a route. check google maps for that.

[ilvtofu]

lol this should soon be in fight club, the majority of VNA888's posts are in this thread!

How can it be illegal to pass on the right, so on a 2 lane street if someone is turning left, does that mean the entire traffic has to stop because it would be considered "passing" to go ahead?

Point is, people aren't gonna change their habits if u post this on RS, i'm all for a higher speed limit, Slow = Right, Fast = left, but I don't think arguing about this is effective.

How about when there's slow, fast, and 120 kph in the city? LMFAO

[vna888]

bengy:cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry::cry: :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused::confused::confused::confused:

lol this should soon be in fight club, the majority of VNA888's posts are in this thread!

How can it be illegal to pass on the right, so on a 2 lane street if someone is turning left, does that mean the entire traffic has to stop because it would be considered "passing" to go ahead?

Point is, people aren't gonna change their habits if u post this on RS, i'm all for a higher speed limit, Slow = Right, Fast = left, but I don't think arguing about this is effective.

How about when there's slow, fast, and 120 kph in the city? LMFAO

Finally, a response that actually showed use of brainpower instead of the lame "GTFO" phrase.

As for the comment about my posts :haha: hey I always love a good argument/debate. Remember it was a rant originally :D
Does get a bit ridiculous when people accuse me of things I never said though. lol

I agree with everything else you said in your post. 100% support (except maybe 120 in the city XD).
Hopefully you understand that I agree with the idea of fast/slow lane. But at the same time, when both lanes are full of cars (due to volume, traffic lights, left turning cars, etc. DOESNT have to be RUSH HOUR, just anytime when both lanes are full, even if the traffic flow is pretty good, not necessarily GRIDLOCKED) all 50 vehicles in front don't have to move over just for 1 idiot who wants to go 10 above everyone else. It doesn't get simpler than this, considering we're in the city too so left turns, lights, etc. exist. Can you imagine some think THIS will solve our traffic problems? Nah...getting rid of traffic lights and banning left turns down major routes will :D
Nobody seems to be trying to refute my post (#66) earlier. I assume it's because they can't.

Honest question:
Are people using their reputation on this forum to post responses instead of their brain? And so when one 6000+ post member posts, other sheep thank them and just agree without bothering to read the other person's posts?


PS. maybe that idiot speeder (trying to go 80 when flow is 65, both lanes full) should join the VPD, then he'll have a car with lights and a siren so everyone in the left lane will move out of his way everytime, and BNR32, SpuGen, wouwou, woob, and others can take turns sucking him off in the police car :haha:

^^sorry if I crossed the line? Iono mods edit it if you think so. I'm too used to fight club :(

[bengy]

LOL buddy you got ass raped by a road rager and now you come to cry on here as if anyone gives a shit. Just stay out of the left lane as much as you can help it and be done with it. I don't think anyone here really expects to have people move over to the right lane in gridlock traffic, not really any point.

[BNR32_Coupe]

lol this should soon be in fight club, the majority of VNA888's posts are in this thread!

How can it be illegal to pass on the right, so on a 2 lane street if someone is turning left, does that mean the entire traffic has to stop because it would be considered "passing" to go ahead?

Point is, people aren't gonna change their habits if u post this on RS, i'm all for a higher speed limit, Slow = Right, Fast = left, but I don't think arguing about this is effective.

How about when there's slow, fast, and 120 kph in the city? LMFAO

if you look up passing from the right in the MVA you'll see that there are exceptions to the rule, such as in the case of left turners.

[vna888]

bengy, if what you say is true, then that means SpuGen, BNR32, and others can't read (they are saying gtfo REGARDLESS even though the scenario I presented was a situation when both lanes are full). So either they can't read (somehow misconstrue my words as "when traffic is light, BLOCK the left lane!!", OR, they support the idea of having the whole left lane move over.

oh btw
if anyone's curious here's the MVA on passing on the right:
Passing on right

158 (1) The driver of a vehicle must not cause or permit the vehicle to overtake and pass on the right of another vehicle, except

(a) when the vehicle overtaken is making a left turn or its driver has signalled his or her intention to make a left turn,

(b) when on a laned roadway there is one or more than one unobstructed lane on the side of the roadway on which the driver is permitted to drive, or

(c) on a one way street or a highway on which traffic is restricted to one direction of movement, where the roadway is free from obstructions and is of sufficient width for 2 or more lanes of moving vehicles.

(2) Despite subsection (1), a driver of a vehicle must not cause the vehicle to overtake and pass another vehicle on the right

(a) when the movement cannot be made safely, or

(b) by driving the vehicle off the roadway.

hence, even if someone isn't making a left turn, you can pass on the right, provided you're not using the parking lane or shoulder (on a highway)
Sorry, had to mention it, I hate to have someone mistakenly think it's illegal to pass on the right.

[BNR32_Coupe]

PS. maybe that idiot speeder (trying to go 80 when flow is 65, both lanes full) should join the VPD, then he'll have a car with lights and a siren so everyone in the left lane will move out of his way everytime, and BNR32, SpuGen, wouwou, woob, and others can take turns sucking him off in the police car :haha:

^^sorry if I crossed the line? Iono mods edit it if you think so. I'm too used to fight club :(

omg you took this too far. im having an emotional breakdown. im down, man down man down, im emotionally hit! quick, somebody get some help, get a mod in here or some neutrally opinionated nay-sayers, quick.. its an emergency.

seriously vna just STFU and MOVE your ass over to the right... MOVE! you see me flashing my highbeams at you? i got some important shit to go to.. so MOVE.. scram... move your slow ass over.. get the hint yet? im honking my horn, that means MOVE OVA.. MOVEIT MOOOB ITTT, LALALA MOVE YO ASS SON, somebody get this guy a moving company coz he gotta MOVE his slow ass over to the RIGHT lane.. what did the cow say? cow goes MOOOOOOOOOve. what language do they speak in slowville? coz this message aint going through to you: move to the right. notice the guy in the mirror flipping you off? he wants you to move the hell over because he has to take a shit. im soo close to your ass you swear your in jail, so unless u wanna get fucked, move the hell over boy. SEE the line of cars behind you? thats my crew, we're called the left laners, and you're in our territory. havent you taken driving lessons? if you did, you probably would recognize my face on chapter 1: move out of my way.

[vna888]

oh no! bnr32 and your crew, see all the cars IN FRONT of you in the left lane (that includes me)?? We're all going as fast as we can given traffic volume. We're all going 70 already. HOpe you don't expect all of us to move over :(

Sorry bro you'll have to take a different route.

Come by next time when the left lane isn't full (so your selfish ass wouldn't be expecting 50 cars in front of you to move over), and I will gladly move over for you :)

This time I'm really done with this thread. :) mods can ban me if I make one more post. No point repeating myself if some people can't read and accuse me of being a left lane blocker when traffic doesn't permit the left lane to be empty lol.

btw
I could care less about this acct, that's why I made this acct, it's a random POS account becuase I don't post here regularly (if I was a regular and had 1000+ posts, I'd think about my reputation a lil), but since I could care less, I don't hold back with the insults. Maybe I shoulda represent more with 604 in the username. But w/e as a Chinese, we love the number 8.

and for the record, I support the rule of using the left lane to pass (and then going back to the right lane). I support this in the city, and I support this 1000000% on the freeway. I hate left lane blockers on the freeway as much as you do. Only time I don't support it is when traffic volume results in cars being in both lanes(especially in the city with traffic lights, and other stuff slowing down traffic). Then there's nothing you can do. There's nothing you SHOULD do either other than go with the flow.

cheers have fun
goodbye RS
have fun sucking off the idiot who wants to go 80 when everyone is doing 65 mr. BNR32, SpuGen, wouwou, bengy, and some others. Too lazy to check.

[SpuGen]

WAHHHHHHHHHHHH

Boo hoo.

[ncrx]

Left turn hogs are all over the sea to sky now that its nearly 2 lanes everywhere... this will be a huge problem when its finished

[BNR32_Coupe]

I got a special song dedicated to VNA888 and all the other mother fuckers slowing society down with their ignorance:

wJGST0XNAIg

[El Bastardo]

Guys, stop letting the guy with the shitty license plate username troll you

[kungpow]

Scenario 1) You're on your way to work. Everyone on both lanes are cruising at 60, not because the people in the left lane are slow drivers, but because of the sheer volume of cars and the light patterns, everyone is stuck at 60. You're the last guy in the pack of the left lane. You see some guy zoom towards you from behind going about 80km in the city. He starts tailing you. (mind you the following distance in the city when its jammed isn't very far anyways) You don't even notice him tailing you. He starts honking and flipping the bird at you. What do you do? Stay on the left because both lanes are going 60 anyways? or switch to the right lane, only for him to come up beside you and start tailing the next guy?

If the flow is at 65 (15 over the speed limit), why should we move over to the right lane for a guy going 80km if the sign clearly says while the speed limit is 50 if the flow is at 65? That is in no way under the term of

I'm not gonna side with anyone as I rarely drive in the left lane ANYWAYS. That is just my opinion.

How about this, let's all play nice and stop thinking that winning this argument is gonna get rid of all the "left lane blockers" (however you wanna define them) on the roads. Thank you, and good night.

The sign is wrong! It should be 'Keep right unelss passing!'