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B.C. considering cell phone ban for drivers
Gh0stRider
06-24-2009, 09:04 PM
ctvbc.ca
British Columbia may become the seventh province in Canada to restrict the use of cell phones while driving.
Solicitor General Kash Heed saw the harm of using cell phones on the road when he worked as a police officer.
"I'll have a lot more to say in the next couple weeks with respect to the process were going to utilize," he said.
Ontario, Quebec, Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island and Manitoba have all introduced measures to limit cell phone use already.
The last time B.C. considered jumping onboard, former Solicitor General John Les rejected the notion that cell phones cause accidents.
"We have not been able to uncover evidence that has led to decrease in crashes, it's extremely inconclusive evidence coming out of those experiences," he said.
But the evidence on the road is littered with crashes and deaths linked to cell phone use. Everyone from BC police chiefs to the provinces doctors say there should be a total ban on cell phone use.
Trace Acres of the B.C. Automobile Association says that young drivers should be banned from cell phone use on the road first.
"That's a very high risk group of drivers, and we know that it's a fast growing market for the use of electronics mobile electronic communications devices," he said.
SoulCrusher
06-24-2009, 09:07 PM
...its about time. Hopefully the associated penalties are severe.
scheng924
06-24-2009, 09:14 PM
i say do it.. but so hard to enforce...
give a civilian phone # to report cars which they see the driver talking on the phone as well
Even though this might be inconvenient for a lot of drivers, it'll make the roads safer for everyone.
Philly74
06-24-2009, 09:17 PM
about time they ban cellphone while driving. took they long enough!
Gh0stRider
06-24-2009, 09:19 PM
I hear they also want to ban hands free units.
scheng924
06-24-2009, 09:25 PM
what about in car bluetooth units?...
i would think only holding a cell is not allowed and bluetooth, handsfree, or bluetooth car unit would be ok, but we'll wait and see i guess
it's safer for everyone but a bit inconvenient, however, given the amount of bad driving i've seen around vancouver, i wouldn't mind if they ban it all together..
my ideal way of this is to allow bluetooth headset, handsfree, and in car bluetooth units
ilvtofu
06-24-2009, 09:30 PM
I text/tweet/fb while driving, so I can see why they would want to ban young drivers... :(
I don't do it while in motion, only at reds, it's too dangerous to do while you're moving because i'm not very good at texting without looking :(
Another thing about young drivers these days i find is that less and less learn stick, so they've got nothing better to do with their other hand (please no dirty comments)
KaOsTiK
06-24-2009, 09:31 PM
i support the ban..but hopefully they don't ban the use of hands free units. that would kinda hinder a lot of ppl who do business on the road
JulyZerg
06-24-2009, 09:48 PM
FINALLY!
smoothie.
06-24-2009, 09:55 PM
i can see less accidents, and then more accidents from people trying to use their phones via handsfree/bluetooth.
its still down to the drivers imo.
Culture_Vulture
06-24-2009, 09:57 PM
now I'll have another reason not to pick up calls :thumbsup:
TOPEC
06-24-2009, 10:01 PM
i dont think its holding the cell phone thats causing accidents, its the loss of concentration from TALKING to the other party at the other end that causes the loss of concentration which leads to crashes/accidents. so i'm guessing using bluetooth/hands free will most likely be banned as well.
teaoh
06-24-2009, 10:28 PM
i say do it.. but so hard to enforce...
give a civilian phone # to report cars which they see the driver talking on the phone as well
lol and while they're reporting, someone will report them. And the chain goes on :haha:
johny
06-24-2009, 10:30 PM
now everytime a phone rings people will be pulling over as fast as they can and stoping anywhere they can... which will cause 2x more accidents then answering while driving.
boss_clad
06-24-2009, 10:34 PM
isn't it already into effect? my mom says her friend got fined $400
feels more and more like we might as well live in a world of nerf...
soon it'll be like "oh no, the blades of my lawn mower has left my grass trimmings too sharp! hope no one calls the cops on me before i can round out those corners..."
geeknerd
06-24-2009, 10:40 PM
^ probably got driving without due care. if officer thinks that the mom using phone while driving = fail, he can probably give that ticket.
but anything having the actual phone up to your ear, u can say u were singing to the song as a excuse probably.
1990TSI
06-24-2009, 10:41 PM
I've never crashed while txting so why should this affect me?
jk la~
glad my car came with bluetooth in case this law passes!
TheKingdom2000
06-24-2009, 11:12 PM
i say do it.. but so hard to enforce...
give a civilian phone # to report cars which they see the driver talking on the phone as well
i dont' see how this does anything though? you can't prove it?
I hear they also want to ban hands free units.
I find this stupid if they ban hands free...
honestly, texting while driving is the worst... i don't see how talking on the phone is dangerous.. i support the ban though..
or i could live with NEW DRIVERS not allowed to use their cell phone.. but to enforce this would be very troublesome.. since alot of new drivers do not put the "N" up.
NimbeeTT
06-24-2009, 11:19 PM
Im all for this law :thumbsup:
but yeah, i think its the fact that youre losing concentration of the road while you're talking on the phone like someone said earlier, not so much the holding of the phone, but that def has its share too.
I mean, personally when i drive and im "chatting" with the person in the passenger seat, i KNOW i am losing concentration of the road cause it's a little more difficult for me to really focus on where im going and shoulder checking and all the safety procedures. With a cell phone in hand would be much worse cause you're sorta obligated to respond on the phone whereas if you had a passenger theyd see you're driving and understand and wait for your responses when youre tied up =/
Ticket folks who are using maps too. Ticket drivers <50kmh too.
johny
06-24-2009, 11:34 PM
we should ban all passengers. limit one person (driver) per car unless you have a soundproof glass window between front and back seats.
passengers talk more then phones do.
but you dont have to hold passengers to your ear to talk to them.
TheKingdom2000
06-24-2009, 11:39 PM
but you dont have to hold passengers to your ear to talk to them.
speak for yourself :eek:
dkvby
06-24-2009, 11:41 PM
i always see cops talking on phone while driving
Synaptik
06-24-2009, 11:48 PM
i always see cops talking on phone while driving
i always see cops looking at their laptops while driving. are we going to ticket these fuckers too?
StylinRed
06-25-2009, 01:06 AM
i thought cell phone use was already banned
skyxx
06-25-2009, 01:16 AM
What?, I thought it has been banned in BC for many years already. Guess I was wrong lol....
slammer111
06-25-2009, 01:37 AM
To be honest, I'm not sure where I stand on this one.
I understand a texting ban, but a talking ban isn't going to work. So you're saying talking on a BT is worse than having 4 screaming kids in the back of a minivan? If that's the case, you might as well ban those portable GPSs as well. Then ban cup holders and talking passengers too?
Good for John Les for examining the evidence first, instead of just jumping on the bandwagon.
You realize this can easily get turned into a cash grab right?
Imagine you're on the phone with your mother because your dad just had a heart attack somewhere, you're trying to teach her how to administer CPR.. and you get pulled over.
AzNightmare
06-25-2009, 02:45 AM
banning cellphones is okay, but the handsfree stuff is stupid.
Bouncing Bettys
06-25-2009, 04:38 AM
im wondering if this will be broad enough to cover people listening to their ipods while driving. its another activity i see a lot more now, especially from N drivers
Bouncing Bettys
06-25-2009, 04:56 AM
when it comes to hands free - studies have shown it to be quite distracting and dangerous. it is also different and more dangerous than convercing with a passenger. discussions with passengers are more likely to include current road conditions and hazards. as well, it is much easier to expess concepts and abstracts with someone in person as they can interpret your gestures and facial expressions to help understand and vise versa. in this way a drive can concentrate a little easier on the task of driving.
Mugen EvOlutioN
06-25-2009, 06:17 AM
banning cellphones is okay, but the handsfree stuff is stupid.
+1
well if it was handsfree or bluetooth there is no way they can enforce it. Yes i see your mouth was moving and you were talking to an invisible person which i have no evidence. So here is $150 dollar for nothing
:rolleyes:
Mr.HappySilp
06-25-2009, 07:53 AM
If they ban ppl from using cell phones while driving then they should alos ban ppl from applying make up while driving, eating while driving, drinking (pop, coffee, bbt) while driving, chatting with the person next to you while driving, listening to loud music while driving...... coz I do see the above mention where they almost casue an accident or caused an accident or not paying attention to the road and needs others aorund them to horn them to get their attention back on the road.
BNR32_Coupe
06-25-2009, 08:41 AM
Im both for and against this. A lot of left lane blockers are on their cell phone, oblivious to the traffic behind this. Im against this because when im eating, i need to be on top of things with my phone while going 80kmh on city streets. guess this coin has 2 sides
madddskillz
06-25-2009, 08:50 AM
fiddling around with headsets isn't much better than putting a phone to your ear.
Mugen EvOlutioN
06-25-2009, 08:52 AM
If they ban ppl from using cell phones while driving then they should alos ban ppl from applying make up while driving, eating while driving, drinking (pop, coffee, bbt) while driving, chatting with the person next to you while driving, listening to loud music while driving...... coz I do see the above mention where they almost casue an accident or caused an accident or not paying attention to the road and needs others aorund them to horn them to get their attention back on the road.
and in car blow jobs too
hotjoint
06-25-2009, 08:55 AM
they should ban the fuckers who can't mutli task. Some of us can drive and be on our phones easily. What if an emergency call came in and we ddnt pick up the phone. If they choose to enforce this then they need to have a back up to allow people to use their phones via bluetooth or hands free headsets
Shun Izaki
06-25-2009, 10:26 AM
I've never crashed while txting so why should this affect me?
jk la~
glad my car came with bluetooth in case this law passes!
your car has bluetooth? hmmm
that's something i didn't know about the genesis. oh well, i use my headset anyways while i drive, or i txt :P
BNR32_Coupe
06-25-2009, 10:58 AM
your car has bluetooth? hmmm
that's something i didn't know about the genesis. oh well, i use my headset anyways while i drive, or i txt :P
texting is dangerous. i use bb messenger, it's safer. i have a key pad so i can type easily with 2 hands
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Gh0stRider
06-25-2009, 11:00 AM
they tried to ban it before, but it didn't happen. lack of evidence linking cell phone use to accidents.
Adsdeman
06-25-2009, 11:01 AM
What the hell took so long!!!!
sulos
06-25-2009, 11:28 AM
what about music? Talk radio? The Clai that is wearing the full face helmut driving beside you?
q0192837465
06-25-2009, 12:49 PM
Instead of tresting the symptoms, they should treat the disease. HARDER DRIVING TESTS
scheng924
06-25-2009, 09:13 PM
yeah the C-Lai full face helmet should be illegal too
ilvtofu
06-25-2009, 09:14 PM
CLai welding full face helmet is just an excuse, take it off of her and she still can't drive.
pandalove
06-25-2009, 09:16 PM
i think anything that requires you to lose a hand to drive is a hazard... that being in this case a cell phone
i heard they are banning handsfree too and i think that is wrong ... whats next.. no talking while ur driving ? might as well the government should rip out our cd players and radio
^don't forget about manual transmissions
CanadaGoose
06-25-2009, 09:30 PM
If the government bans manual transmissions I am going to cash out my life savings into body armour and weaponry, and weld myself into a concrete and steel plate reinforced giant bulldozer and demolish the lower mainland.
JUST KEEDING
hotjoint
06-26-2009, 08:41 AM
If the government bans manual transmissions I am going to cash out my life savings into body armour and weaponry, and weld myself into a concrete and steel plate reinforced giant bulldozer and demolish the lower mainland.
JUST KEEDING
:thumbsup:
Topgrinder
06-26-2009, 11:00 AM
ban em please. so many reatrds oblivious of whats going on around them
buddy
06-26-2009, 11:55 AM
eduaction is the key ...
what are they gonna do next when people not paying attention on the road while corssing the street and talking on their cell phones at the same time? ban cell phone when walking on the street?
slammer111
06-26-2009, 01:02 PM
If the government bans manual transmissions I am going to cash out my life savings into body armour and weaponry, and weld myself into a concrete and steel plate reinforced giant bulldozer and demolish the lower mainland.
JUST KEEDINGManuals are nifty, but overrated. Especially now that cars with technologies such as SMG that can shift faster than any human can. But I admit that flipping paddles once in a while can be fun. :)
bengy
06-26-2009, 01:51 PM
^ flippin paddles is not the same as changing gears with a clutch and shift lever.
CanadaGoose
06-26-2009, 03:01 PM
SMG technolo
azzurro32
06-26-2009, 04:56 PM
I try and avoid phone while driving, but sometimes you just have to pick it up.
I could go either way on this one. To be honest I was in an accident cause of cell phone so I can see why they are doing this. I guess you could always pull over.
I can see though left laners crashing into right laners to pull over and answer a quick call however lol.
Harvey Specter
06-26-2009, 05:22 PM
About time if you ask me.
ilvtofu
06-26-2009, 06:06 PM
Oh no, not this manual vs SMG vs DSG vs automatic thing again...
dna82
06-26-2009, 06:18 PM
ban the radio while you're at it...
fuckin nanny laws.
pandalove
06-30-2009, 10:09 PM
http://www.pssg.gov.bc.ca/legislation/current.htm
add your thoughts
HollyZ32
07-01-2009, 12:18 AM
I think the law is stupid and i hope to god it does not pass!
im a young driver and i text (only at red lights) while im driving, I have been driving for 4 years and have NEVER been in an Accident.
The young people part is even worse, just cause your a young drive does not mean a thing, i know alot of young drivers that are way better drivers then people that have been driving for years!.
cops drive, and talk on the phone, listen to their radios, and do their laptop things all at once.
I know they do it for responding to calls and stuff, but they are people to and its just as likely for them to cause a accident to, but to give people a ticket for somthing they do to is just hypicritcal.
hk20000
07-01-2009, 01:18 AM
what? I got my bluetooth headset anticipating the ban of using the cellphone physically but they are banning the handsfree too!?!?
That's cruelty. How about taxi drivers who need to be informed of taxi calls?
Timpo
07-01-2009, 01:23 AM
Even though this might be inconvenient for a lot of drivers, it'll make the roads safer for everyone.
it may cause road rage because some people have an important call but can't answer it...
pandalove
07-01-2009, 01:28 AM
banning bluetooth is stupid ...
canada is stupid
canada just want everyone to ride horses again
kumbo1
07-01-2009, 08:46 AM
^If you think Canada is stupid, get the hell out.
hk20000
07-01-2009, 10:30 AM
banning bluetooth is stupid ...
canada is stupid
canada just want everyone to ride horses again
Riding horses is a lot more dangerous....also consider the epidemic and waste management coming from dead horses.... :eek:
spenny
07-01-2009, 04:58 PM
whats next? Drinking and driving? pft.
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