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: 17 years old and buying an R6.


Tomac
06-25-2009, 12:56 AM
Good idea?

slammer111
06-25-2009, 01:58 AM
As long as the buyer isn't an asshat, sure why not. It's ALL about the maturity level of the rider. Nobody else is going to do the suffering if the rider wraps himself around a pole and gets his head split in half.

SuperSlowSS
06-25-2009, 08:23 AM
if he likes to drive slow and scared of speed, then yes it is a fine first bike.

RRxtar
06-25-2009, 08:51 AM
As long as the buyer isn't an asshat, sure why not. It's ALL about the maturity level of the rider. Nobody else is going to do the suffering if the rider wraps himself around a pole and gets his head split in half.
made important words bolder.

Jermyzy
06-25-2009, 09:57 AM
The key is to have good clutch control! (aka tigerclaw!)

akira112
06-25-2009, 10:14 AM
If you're mature, sure, if not, please don't, you would endanger the rest of us on the road as well.

WHEYsted
06-25-2009, 10:14 AM
Is an R6 really a good beginner bike? I was thinking of the Ninja 250 but I realized it's kinda slow. Plus an R6 sounds crazy with a Leo Vince Exhaust. So it this reccomended?

Jermyzy
06-25-2009, 10:29 AM
^Take a course first is the best recommendation I can give you. Why buy a 600cc supersport bike if you don't even know what it's like to ride on a motorcycle? Some people take the course and realize motorcycling is not for them, or find out they like cruisers more.

Also, yes the ninja 250 is "slow" relative to the 600cc and 1000cc bikes. But it's still faster than your average car. As the saying goes, it's much more fun to ride a slow bike fast than it is to ride a fast bike slow. Also, it's a lot more forgiving. If you slip the throttle by accident, you get a little scare, but at least you won't be wiping yourself off the pavement like you would if you were on a 600

Adsdeman
06-25-2009, 10:42 AM
If hes affraid of speed y does he need such a powerful bike. If i were him id get a ninja 250 for a year and then move on up. But im immature and cant be trusted with quick vehicles, maybe he can

WHEYsted
06-25-2009, 10:50 AM
^ I missed the part where I mentioned I was afraid of speed. Read carefully.

Adsdeman
06-25-2009, 11:06 AM
In that case do it man ud be the talk of the town with a bike like that at 17 years old BALLA!!!!

Gh0stRider
06-25-2009, 11:08 AM
are you talking about a used r6?

Slab_Ryda
06-25-2009, 11:12 AM
as for the bike goes, what year R6? the new ones are kinda cool; the riding position is kinda cramped for street riding, I find the seat too high and the bars too low ( lots of ppl buy and install lowering links, but then you sacrifice a little bit of corner handling). If your budget allows it, try for the R6S ( which offers the bars over the triple clamps and other things) or a GSX-R600( leader in overall power and comfort, IMO) , both of which have more "street-able" power, as well as PLENTY of juice to rip you around a track. IF you're scared of speed though, consider doing a season of track riding, you'd be surprised at the stuff you learn there.

-M

WHEYsted
06-25-2009, 11:17 AM
In that case do it man ud be the talk of the town with a bike like that at 17 years old BALLA!!!!

How do you know if I am 17 or not? I'm not the OP. I was just asking if it is another recommended beginners bike. Again read carefully.

Presto
06-25-2009, 01:22 PM
The Ninja 250 is a decent bike for beginners. It's nimble and forgiving. Beginners need a forgiving bike.

eurochevy
06-25-2009, 02:21 PM
your going down right away due most likely to immaturity of a 17 year old

InvisibleSoul
06-25-2009, 02:26 PM
If you're in the top 5% of people in terms of natural skill and road awareness, sure.

Otherwise, you're asking for trouble.

46_valentinor
06-25-2009, 02:33 PM
i had a cbr125 when i just turned 16 and got a r6 when i turned 17...you just gotta be mature when it comes to stuff like this and you should REALLy take a course!!

6thGear.
06-25-2009, 05:36 PM
If your a poser...yes
If you want to actually ride....no

FS1992EG
06-25-2009, 07:12 PM
You have to be 10 times more aware on a bike than on a car, most bc drivers don't see a motorcycle when they have an accident with one.

When I started riding, I wasn't afraid of riding it, but after the first day,I almost crashed , I was kinda scared to riding an R6, I think if you don't have respect for the motorcycle and you think your invisible, I believe that's going to be your worse mistake.

Its like going for your N for class 5, shoulder checking and making sure the intersection is clear.

asian_XL
06-25-2009, 08:41 PM
I was 23...bought an used R6...couldn't get out of my apt parking lot, it was so scary
I am tall, so I had to roll my bike out like little kid on their first tricycle...lol

for the first 2 weeks, I was riding around at 30km/h and it feels like I was going at 100km/h...haha.

Tomac
06-25-2009, 10:56 PM
Yea the bikes for me, a 2009 R6

SuperSlowSS
06-25-2009, 11:31 PM
If your a poser...yes
If you want to actually ride....no

I just want Tomac to know that... there is nothing wrong with posing on the streets. :D

CanadaGoose
06-26-2009, 12:07 AM
Just be smart about it. That's all

impactX
06-26-2009, 07:38 AM
If you have to ask, then it's not a good idea.

No one is going to stop you from buying one though, just don't be part of the statistics.

TheSalesman
06-26-2009, 09:02 AM
don't buy a bike to show off when you see a big crowd or something. Are you still in high school? you might kill yourself in front of all your classmates.

Tomac
06-26-2009, 02:27 PM
Not for showing off.

Honyoung
06-26-2009, 07:21 PM
i was thinking of doing the same so dont feel alone
but i first need to take the course (i have my class 8L)
you must be rich if your gonna buy a 09 R6
i know for sure i cant get it this year cuase i have no money but i am going to get my N this summer
good luck
and please ride safe

6thGear.
06-26-2009, 07:21 PM
If it's not for showing off then why would you need a 2009 R6? Do you have any riding experience whatsoever? Your 17 which means you have ZERO driving experience and unfortunately a car is way more forgiving than some brand new supersport sportbike, especially if you have a slip. Nothing against you, but I for one is 100% against noobs starting off with 600cc. I sold a jacket and a pair of gloves to some noob recently, he bought an 09 gsxr750, dropped it a week later. He didn't have to tell me how he dropped it and I knew how he did it. Unless you have been riding since your 10 yrs old, any newer 600cc sportbike will be too much for you to handle.

Think of it this way, you have to worry about balancing the bike at low speeds, being able to keep in the right lane position, you also have to worry about your throttle control, hand brake, clutching and on top of all that you have to watch for pedestirans and drivers who will never know you were there to begin with and swerve right into you, and lastly watching your speed. At the riding position your at while riding a sportbike, you can't really glance down every so often to read your speedo while the bike is going forward in traffic.

Go to BCSportbikes.com and read all the RIP threads from this year alone. I already had to attend a good friend's funeral earlier this year. Sad part is, the season just started and reality is, at this rate this year, there will be a lot more RIP threads on that forum.

WHEYsted
06-26-2009, 10:57 PM
Haha I just want the R6 because it sounds like a beast with a Leo Vince Exhaust.

SuperSlowSS
06-26-2009, 11:09 PM
inline 4s don't sound like beast, they too smooth. leave the raw stuff to the twins...haha :p

I am with 6thGear. If you are not buying it to show off and wants to ride fast, then go for something smaller and used. You will learn the skills much faster.

JSALES
06-27-2009, 12:10 AM
you've got balls, i'd practice driving more and learn from your mistakes in a caged vehicle. that's why i'm holding out on getting my bike license until i get more driving experience

TheSalesman
06-27-2009, 12:17 AM
I sold a jacket and a pair of gloves to some noob recently, he bought an 09 gsxr750, dropped it a week later. He didn't have to tell me how he dropped it and I knew how he did it. Unless you have been riding since your 10 yrs old, any newer 600cc sportbike will be too much for you to handle.


i wonder if this is the same person that i know? or just coincidence...
i know someone that bought a gsxr750 brand new because it was a good deal so he HAD to buy it. First time i saw the bike...it was already dropped and i think he was trying to do some wheelies already. same person? or just another noob?

WHEYsted
06-27-2009, 01:11 AM
you've got balls, i'd practice driving more and learn from your mistakes in a caged vehicle. that's why i'm holding out on getting my bike license until i get more driving experience

I was planning on doing the same...

Jermyzy
06-27-2009, 11:10 AM
Haha I just want the R6 because it sounds like a beast with a Leo Vince Exhaust.

You're going to make yourself go deaf pretty quick :p

Even with my wimpy lawnmower-sounding 250 I wear earplugs when I ride

metal
06-27-2009, 12:58 PM
As long as you're mature enough, then it'll be alright; highly advice taking a safety course first though. I started out riding around on my GFs Ninja 250, then I bought my ZX6R when I was 18. Stay alert and keep thinking that everyone is out to get you.

Tomac
06-27-2009, 01:11 PM
Thanks alot for all your feedback boys

6thGear.
06-27-2009, 03:32 PM
I am with 6thGear. If you are not buying it to show off and wants to ride fast, then go for something smaller and used. You will learn the skills much faster.

Thankfully someone see's it the same. Lets put it this way, I started with a 97 ninja500(3.5yrs)->04F4i(1 yr)->06 Gsxr600(current). I felt I had some decent experience, first track day this year, some guy on an old school bike, I think a GPZ500?, literally destroyed me out there. I couldn't keep up worth shit. in fact he was pretty much the fastest guy in our group. Skill over machine is pretty much a given at anytime on any machine.

you've got balls, i'd practice driving more and learn from your mistakes in a caged vehicle. that's why i'm holding out on getting my bike license until i get more driving experience

Well, at his age, didn't we all have balls and invincibility?

i wonder if this is the same person that i know? or just coincidence...
i know someone that bought a gsxr750 brand new because it was a good deal so he HAD to buy it. First time i saw the bike...it was already dropped and i think he was trying to do some wheelies already. same person? or just another noob?

I dunno, but he did a low speed drop while turning right. By simply telling him that applying pressure on the opposite peg will keep the bike upright while your stretching out to turn tightly. He was like,"AH!!!!"
But I know he bought the 750 based on color alone and nothing else.

I was planning on doing the same...

Good thinking!

Thanks alot for all your feedback boys

In the end, it is your money after all, just heed these advice given and never think your bigger than your machine and learn to respect it. but have fun !

Tomac
06-27-2009, 04:29 PM
Thanks 6th gear for the feedback, i appreciate you all helping me on my descision, I thought alot of you would of just said no flat out, but reading your replys I knoticed you all are just watching out for me and I appreciate that alot, thanks guys. Stay safe

Guy_LikeWhoa
06-30-2009, 04:23 PM
Is an R6 really a good beginner bike? I was thinking of the Ninja 250 but I realized it's kinda slow. Plus an R6 sounds crazy with a Leo Vince Exhaust. So it this reccomended?

depends on how big the rider is. my first bike is an R6, but i'm 6'2 200lbs. a 250 would have lasted me like 5 hours before i'd have turned around and sold it for a bigger bike

slammer111
06-30-2009, 04:41 PM
Depends on your style to be honest. Do you do WOT all the time? If yes, get the Ninja250, it's still plenty fast. My buddy is 5'9" 180lbs, and he's still ripping around in it after 2 years.

My first bike (which I'm still riding) is a FZ6 (detuned version of R6 but pretty much the same engine), and unless I'm passing on the highway, I never ever even go past 1/3 throttle, and I keep my revs below 4000rpm in the city. The extra torque is definitely nice if this is your style.

I'm 5'6", probably 180lbs with gear.

Tomac
07-01-2009, 03:31 PM
I'm 5'11 165 with gear

racerman88
07-03-2009, 12:29 PM
all about throttle control

Tomac
07-03-2009, 01:51 PM
Ive been riding competition dirtbikes and atvs my whole life. I know what its like not to have throttle control cause a KX 250 will send you into a tree pretty quick if you dont respect it.

6thGear.
07-04-2009, 12:22 PM
Ive been riding competition dirtbikes and atvs my whole life. I know what its like not to have throttle control cause a KX 250 will send you into a tree pretty quick if you dont respect it.

Like I said earlier...

Unless you have been riding since your 10 yrs old, any newer 600cc sportbike will be too much for you to handle.

You've got throttle experience, you should adjust pretty quickly.

nammerstar
07-04-2009, 08:39 PM
if you're looking at a 600cc to buy, should get a gixxer, it's the easiest out of them all. R6 is a bit more advance and not so forgiving if you fuk up...

Quickshifter
07-23-2009, 03:51 PM
Indeed size does matter...

Just don't kill youself...

AhXian
07-24-2009, 12:06 AM
take a course, like PRS, the instructors can tell u if you can handle a r6 or not when u finish the parking lot section.