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Old 07-07-2009, 03:23 AM   #1
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Woman murdered in German Courthouse (because of her headscarf)

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The body of a Muslim woman, killed in a German courtroom by a man convicted of insulting her religion, has been taken back to her native Egypt for burial.

Marwa Sherbini, 31, was stabbed 18 times by Axel W, who is now under arrest in Dresden for suspected murder.

Husband Elwi Okaz is also in a critical condition in hospital, after being injured as he tried to save his wife.

Ms Sherbini had sued her killer after he called her a "terrorist" because of her headscarf.

The case has attracted much attention in Egypt and the Muslim world.

German prosecutors have said the 28-year-old attacker, identified only as Axel W, was driven by a deep hatred of foreigners and Muslims.

Medics were unable to save Ms Sherbini who was three months pregnant with her second child. Her three-year-old son was with the family in court when she was killed.

Axel W and Ms Sherbini and family were in court for his appeal against a fine of 750 euros ($1,050) for insulting her in 2008, apparently because she was wearing the Muslim headscarf or Hijab.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8136500.stm


I'm surprised this isn't all over the presses... i guess the media doesn't want the finger pointed at them since they constantly paint all muslims as terrorists
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First time I heard about this as well. Pretty damn sad, RIP.
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Wow. That's intense. How the hell does someone manage to stab someone 18 times in a courthouse? Is there no security there?
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I've noticed the majority of europe isn't very friendly to non whites.
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Marwa Sherbini, 31, was stabbed 18 times by Axel W, who is now under arrest in Dresden for suspected murder.

Stabbing 18 times = suspected murder?!
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I've noticed the majority of europe isn't very friendly to non whites.
I think that issues like this are the culmination of a lot of people putting up with a lot of shit.

While this guy is clearly a racist and a bigot, (in general) a lot of free the world has tried to be very tolerant of all religions, unfortunately no other large religious group seems to be bombing buildings, killing soldiers, and attacking peaceful groups.

As a result some people that are unaffiliated with the militaristic islamic groups are being victimized and attacked because of the actions of others.
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I think that issues like this are the culmination of a lot of people putting up with a lot of shit.

While this guy is clearly a racist and a bigot, (in general) a lot of free the world has tried to be very tolerant of all religions, unfortunately no other large religious group seems to be bombing buildings, killing soldiers, and attacking peaceful groups.

As a result some people that are unaffiliated with the militaristic islamic groups are being victimized and attacked because of the actions of others.
I thought what you meant by tolerance propagating hate was that the modern world tries to sympathize with criminals by transferring responsiblity to society, their upbringing, their social & educataional disadvantages, etc.

I didn't think you'd go to the religion angle.
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edited, dont want to start a debate on this
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I've noticed the majority of europe isn't very friendly to non whites.
Middle Eastern = White.
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I think you mean Eastern/Central Europe.

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I've noticed the majority of europe isn't very friendly to non whites.
Many people in Western Europe don't like Muslims.
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Marwa Sherbini, 31, was stabbed 18 times by Axel W, who is now under arrest in Dresden for suspected murder.

Stabbing 18 times = suspected murder?!

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Middle eastern aren't white, but they are technically caucasian. They just aren't white caucasian.

I have to disagree with those saying Europe is not tolerant of others. It's probably one of the most tolerant places in the world.
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How the fuck did he get away with this... Don't they check whether someone has weapons on them? aren't there cops/security? The guy stabbed the woman in front of a court of justice, In front of judge?!?!? WTF

he could've got away with the racism with a slap on the wrist... That's fucked up
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im reading that the Husband wasn't stabbed by the killer but rather a security guard who fired his gun (some are accusing him of deliberately shooting the husband, thinking he was the criminal, others say he just missed the killer and hit the husband)

and this is the 2nd time this year someone was killed in a german courthouse

and this killer is from Russia and emigrated to Germany in 2006
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I have to disagree with those saying Europe is not tolerant of others. It's probably one of the most tolerant places in the world.
Yup, but you can't blame white Europeans for been anti-Muslim. Muslim populations have exploded in all parts of Europe and some people are having a tough time adjusting but that been said, I also think that Muslims are partly to blame for creating hostility. Most Muslims moving into Europe are not adopting European cultures but instead creating their own communities and essentially isolating themselves from the rest of the population.
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zomg so many ppl getting killed in german courthouses
im going to generalize and say its because its in their nazi / aryan blood to kill these sub par species
CNN told me so
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Yup, but you can't blame white Europeans for been anti-Muslim. Muslim populations have exploded in all parts of Europe and some people are having a tough time adjusting but that been said, I also think that Muslims are partly to blame for creating hostility. Most Muslims moving into Europe are not adopting European cultures but instead creating their own communities and essentially isolating themselves from the rest of the population.
yeah im surprised we haven't killed all the asians in canada yet since they're not assimilating
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yeah im surprised we haven't killed all the asians in canada yet since they're not assimilating
lemme know when the asians in canada declare a fatwa to kill a guy who drew a cartoon.
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yeah im surprised we haven't killed all the asians in canada yet since they're not assimilating
Hmm and I thought I was the only one that thought this way.
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she was an indiot for suing him over being called a terrorist

he's an ignorant douche, but to sue for $1,000, what a fucking cheap arse bitch - to be honest, karma, in a sense got her (not to say she deserved this entirely, but she was obviously an idiot too, with a chip on her shoulder about anyone who even mentions religion)

2 less idiots on the street, i'm ok with that...
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The divide between Muslims and Europeans is complex; it has a lot to do with social and religious issues and both sides are to be blamed but the scariest thing happening in Europe right now is the EU is starting to move to the far right which will even make things worse before they get any better.
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