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StylinRed
07-07-2009, 03:23 AM
The body of a Muslim woman, killed in a German courtroom by a man convicted of insulting her religion, has been taken back to her native Egypt for burial.

Marwa Sherbini, 31, was stabbed 18 times by Axel W, who is now under arrest in Dresden for suspected murder.

Husband Elwi Okaz is also in a critical condition in hospital, after being injured as he tried to save his wife.

Ms Sherbini had sued her killer after he called her a "terrorist" because of her headscarf.

The case has attracted much attention in Egypt and the Muslim world.

German prosecutors have said the 28-year-old attacker, identified only as Axel W, was driven by a deep hatred of foreigners and Muslims.

Medics were unable to save Ms Sherbini who was three months pregnant with her second child. Her three-year-old son was with the family in court when she was killed.

Axel W and Ms Sherbini and family were in court for his appeal against a fine of 750 euros ($1,050) for insulting her in 2008, apparently because she was wearing the Muslim headscarf or Hijab.

http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?blobcol=urldata&blobheader=image%2Fjpeg&blobkey=id&blobtable=MungoBlobs&blobwhere=1246795954253&ssbinary=true


http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8136500.stm


I'm surprised this isn't all over the presses... i guess the media doesn't want the finger pointed at them since they constantly paint all muslims as terrorists

Harvey Specter
07-07-2009, 03:52 AM
First time I heard about this as well. Pretty damn sad, RIP.

Black SC2
07-07-2009, 06:47 AM
Wow. That's intense. How the hell does someone manage to stab someone 18 times in a courthouse? Is there no security there?

Death2Theft
07-07-2009, 08:18 AM
I've noticed the majority of europe isn't very friendly to non whites.

chun
07-07-2009, 08:25 AM
Marwa Sherbini, 31, was stabbed 18 times by Axel W, who is now under arrest in Dresden for suspected murder.

Stabbing 18 times = suspected murder?!

CounterPuncher
07-07-2009, 08:32 AM
I've noticed the majority of europe isn't very friendly to non whites.

I think that issues like this are the culmination of a lot of people putting up with a lot of shit.

While this guy is clearly a racist and a bigot, (in general) a lot of free the world has tried to be very tolerant of all religions, unfortunately no other large religious group seems to be bombing buildings, killing soldiers, and attacking peaceful groups.

As a result some people that are unaffiliated with the militaristic islamic groups are being victimized and attacked because of the actions of others.

Noir
07-07-2009, 08:39 AM
I think that issues like this are the culmination of a lot of people putting up with a lot of shit.

While this guy is clearly a racist and a bigot, (in general) a lot of free the world has tried to be very tolerant of all religions, unfortunately no other large religious group seems to be bombing buildings, killing soldiers, and attacking peaceful groups.

As a result some people that are unaffiliated with the militaristic islamic groups are being victimized and attacked because of the actions of others.

I thought what you meant by tolerance propagating hate was that the modern world tries to sympathize with criminals by transferring responsiblity to society, their upbringing, their social & educataional disadvantages, etc.

I didn't think you'd go to the religion angle.

Jsunu
07-07-2009, 08:45 AM
edited, dont want to start a debate on this

The7even
07-07-2009, 09:07 AM
I've noticed the majority of europe isn't very friendly to non whites.

Middle Eastern = White.

CounterPuncher
07-07-2009, 09:11 AM
Middle Eastern = White.

Er.. no.

Razor Ramon HG
07-07-2009, 09:18 AM
Middle Eastern = White.

I think you mean Eastern/Central Europe.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/GreaterMiddleEast1.png

bengy
07-07-2009, 09:27 AM
Middle Eastern = White.

Geography > You

PavelGTR
07-07-2009, 10:11 AM
I've noticed the majority of europe isn't very friendly to non whites.

Many people in Western Europe don't like Muslims.

El Bastardo
07-07-2009, 10:12 AM
Marwa Sherbini, 31, was stabbed 18 times by Axel W, who is now under arrest in Dresden for suspected murder.

Stabbing 18 times = suspected murder?!


Innocent until proven guilty by a court of law

WakeMeUp
07-07-2009, 03:16 PM
Middle eastern aren't white, but they are technically caucasian. They just aren't white caucasian.

I have to disagree with those saying Europe is not tolerant of others. It's probably one of the most tolerant places in the world.

ilvtofu
07-07-2009, 03:22 PM
How the fuck did he get away with this... Don't they check whether someone has weapons on them? aren't there cops/security? The guy stabbed the woman in front of a court of justice, In front of judge?!?!? WTF

he could've got away with the racism with a slap on the wrist... That's fucked up

StylinRed
07-07-2009, 03:47 PM
im reading that the Husband wasn't stabbed by the killer but rather a security guard who fired his gun (some are accusing him of deliberately shooting the husband, thinking he was the criminal, others say he just missed the killer and hit the husband)

and this is the 2nd time this year someone was killed in a german courthouse

and this killer is from Russia and emigrated to Germany in 2006

Harvey Specter
07-07-2009, 04:07 PM
I have to disagree with those saying Europe is not tolerant of others. It's probably one of the most tolerant places in the world.

Yup, but you can't blame white Europeans for been anti-Muslim. Muslim populations have exploded in all parts of Europe and some people are having a tough time adjusting but that been said, I also think that Muslims are partly to blame for creating hostility. Most Muslims moving into Europe are not adopting European cultures but instead creating their own communities and essentially isolating themselves from the rest of the population.

m4k4v4li
07-07-2009, 04:27 PM
zomg so many ppl getting killed in german courthouses
im going to generalize and say its because its in their nazi / aryan blood to kill these sub par species
CNN told me so

StylinRed
07-07-2009, 04:58 PM
Yup, but you can't blame white Europeans for been anti-Muslim. Muslim populations have exploded in all parts of Europe and some people are having a tough time adjusting but that been said, I also think that Muslims are partly to blame for creating hostility. Most Muslims moving into Europe are not adopting European cultures but instead creating their own communities and essentially isolating themselves from the rest of the population.

yeah im surprised we haven't killed all the asians in canada yet since they're not assimilating:rolleyes:

Sid Vicious
07-07-2009, 05:22 PM
yeah im surprised we haven't killed all the asians in canada yet since they're not assimilating:rolleyes:

lemme know when the asians in canada declare a fatwa to kill a guy who drew a cartoon.

Drow
07-07-2009, 05:50 PM
was uncalled for

rip

CounterPuncher
07-07-2009, 07:56 PM
yeah im surprised we haven't killed all the asians in canada yet since they're not assimilating:rolleyes:

Hmm and I thought I was the only one that thought this way.

4444
07-07-2009, 10:02 PM
she was an indiot for suing him over being called a terrorist

he's an ignorant douche, but to sue for $1,000, what a fucking cheap arse bitch - to be honest, karma, in a sense got her (not to say she deserved this entirely, but she was obviously an idiot too, with a chip on her shoulder about anyone who even mentions religion)

2 less idiots on the street, i'm ok with that...

Harvey Specter
07-07-2009, 10:09 PM
The divide between Muslims and Europeans is complex; it has a lot to do with social and religious issues and both sides are to be blamed but the scariest thing happening in Europe right now is the EU is starting to move to the far right which will even make things worse before they get any better.

CounterPuncher
07-07-2009, 10:21 PM
The divide between Muslims and Europeans is complex; it has a lot to do with social and religious issues and both sides are to be blamed but the scariest thing happening in Europe right now is the EU is starting to move to the far right which will even make things worse before they get any better.


IMHO a majority of the islamic population is getting what is coming to them.

It's like that line from that movie taken 'just because we are charitable, do not mistake us for being weak'

That's what they have done, they went to the EU to exploit their good will and charity and now that they have taken the EU for pretty much all its worth the EU is starting to get choked about it and right on.

Why to these people think they are entitled to come into someone elses home and fuck with it.

124Y
07-07-2009, 10:55 PM
It's not like the woman has offended the attacker. It's totally uncalled for.

To the poor woman: R.I.P.

To the attacker: Enjoy getting your asshole raped in jail.

StylinRed
07-07-2009, 11:48 PM
lemme know when the asians in canada declare a fatwa to kill a guy who drew a cartoon.

i was being sarcastic but if you want to push the conversation towards that we could make a giant list of Chinese tactics of leeching from Canada.... but i don't have a problem with foreginers so....




and the lady didnt sue for $1000 that's just all the judge awarded her....


i read on a blog (so take it for what its worth) is that the accused was playing with his son on a swing, and the victim came with her child and asked if she could use the swing set.. and that's when the guy started bitching her out calling her "bitch, islamist, terrorist"

^^^^ so if that blogger is accurate she probably deserved being bitched out at (i mean shit that guy was using the swing set with his son) but WTF was he thinking killing her during HIS Appeal case... jesus

G-spec
07-08-2009, 12:00 AM
Why to these people think they are entitled to come into someone elses home and fuck with it.


you mean kind of like how when the Europeans built colonies and did the exact thing you just said all over Asia and Africa.... :thumbsup:


Fact: majority of Muslims in France are from Northern Africa which are countries that are ex French Colonies, and out of all the countries in Europe France is having the most problems with their Muslim population

Fact: there's a buttload of Indian people in Britain, and India as you know was a British colony not too long ago... but in this case, I think Britain is getting off easy, the best Indian food can be found in England, I had out of this world butter chicken when I was in London 2 years ago.


where's the fckin owned happy face cuz I swear this kid just got it.... open your history book rook


RIP to the woman

StylinRed
07-08-2009, 12:39 AM
where's the fckin owned happy face cuz I swear this kid just got it.... open your history book rook


RIP to the woman


rofl

slammer111
07-08-2009, 12:44 AM
you mean kind of like how when the Europeans built colonies and did the exact thing you just said all over Asia and Africa.... :thumbsup:


Fact: majority of Muslims in France are from Northern Africa which are countries that are ex French Colonies, and out of all the countries in Europe France is having the most problems with their Muslim population

Fact: there's a buttload of Indian people in Britain, and India as you know was a British colony not too long ago... but in this case, I think Britain is getting off easy, the best Indian food can be found in England, I had out of this world butter chicken when I was in London 2 years ago.


where's the fckin owned happy face cuz I swear this kid just got it.... open your history book rook


RIP to the woman
+1 and the Europeans also drew all these random borders in Africa where there were none before. England, France, Netherlands, Spain..

But England is singlehandedly responsible for creating/drawing the border between India and Pakistan. Definitely not the brightest idea.

German ppl HATE Turks. They're seen as "ghetto" according to my friend who lives there. It's similar to how many Chinese people view Mainlanders. ;)

Sid Vicious
07-08-2009, 01:04 AM
rofl

Hahah you lose again, I assume you don't read the news

StylinRed
07-08-2009, 01:06 AM
^^^^ whut?

Sid Vicious
07-08-2009, 01:09 AM
^^^^ whut?

its clear you are uninformed about what happened with the jyllands-poste where there were riots and the arson of the danish fire and the declaration of death against the cartoons editor...all about a fucking cartoon

im not saying her death is justified or anything stupid or crass like that, but i can see why many europeans view muslims warily

so you = owned

Harvey Specter
07-08-2009, 01:31 AM
The Danish like the French and other EU cities are partially to blame for the growth of radial Islam within the EU.

You have 2nd generation Muslim youth who have no jobs and no education. They're stereotyped because the gov't keeps pushing propaganda about Islam which is causing a dangerous uprising within these communites. So the next logical question is why in the hell would you open the flood gates and allow so many Muslims to pour into to your country but once they land on your soil you put them in low housing projects away from the cities and give them no opportunities for work or education because they're labeled "Muslim". It really doesn't make any sense.

taylor192
07-08-2009, 06:55 AM
Yup, but you can't blame white Europeans for been anti-Muslim. Muslim populations have exploded in all parts of Europe and some people are having a tough time adjusting but that been said, I also think that Muslims are partly to blame for creating hostility. Most Muslims moving into Europe are not adopting European cultures but instead creating their own communities and essentially isolating themselves from the rest of the population.
You mean like Asians here...

taylor192
07-08-2009, 06:57 AM
The Danish like the French and other EU cities are partially to blame for the growth of radial Islam within the EU.

You have 2nd generation Muslim youth who have no jobs and no education. They're stereotyped because the gov't keeps pushing propaganda about Islam which is causing a dangerous uprising within these communites. So the next logical question is why in the hell would you open the flood gates and allow so many Muslims to pour into to your country but once they land on your soil you put them in low housing projects away from the cities and give them no opportunities for work or education because they're labeled "Muslim". It really doesn't make any sense.

Its called socialism.

The only way to guarantee a good life for all is to limit the population to what's sustainable. Yet being lefty liberal countries they cnanot close their borders to immigrants, so instead them let them in and then isolate them from the good society they've created.

The7even
07-08-2009, 10:32 AM
A common definition of a 'white person' is a person of primarily, or wholly, European ancestry.[2] However, the term is sometimes used more broadly, so that it becomes similar to the concept of the Caucasian race or Caucasoid people, which includes people with ancestry from the Middle East, North Africa, and parts of Central, and South Asia, who share certain physiological characteristics and genetics with Europeans beyond skin colour.


Furthermore , when asked about ones race, I've never heard anyone say 'Middle Eastern'. They're Caucasian. My Cousin is Arab and he always marks the 'Caucasian' circle when filling out an application for work or etc.

XxFcukxX
07-08-2009, 03:25 PM
suspected murder lol.....

StylinRed
07-08-2009, 06:08 PM
its clear you are uninformed about what happened with the jyllands-poste where there were riots and the arson of the danish fire and the declaration of death against the cartoons editor...all about a fucking cartoon

im not saying her death is justified or anything stupid or crass like that, but i can see why many europeans view muslims warily

so you = owned

dude i have no clue wtf you're talking about or why you quoted the quotes you did and why you brought up the danish cartoons as there's no relevance to this story... and im too lazy to re-read anything you posted cuz ill probably just be more confused