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: Car Accident, hit from the side, no witnesses, now what?


The_AK
07-09-2009, 10:17 AM
So this morning i got into a car accident where another party tried to merge into my lane but ended up merging into my car instead. Problem is that we don't have any witnesses. Who would be at fault here and why?

Dragon-88
07-09-2009, 10:25 AM
The person merging, because you are supposed to make sure its safe before merging or changing lanes.

!Yaminashi
07-09-2009, 10:31 AM
From the sounds of the damage to your car that you've described, I think it would be pretty hard for the other party to bullshit their way out of this one

The_AK
07-09-2009, 10:35 AM
Interesting, because the other driver started yelling at me and saying that i hit her so I'm a little worried their going to try to pull a fast one on me. hmm

jlenko
07-09-2009, 10:36 AM
Get a fake witness. Everyone else does it, so why not you too?

ilvtofu
07-09-2009, 10:50 AM
hmm so this person was on your left? I can see some crazy stories from this other driver when it comes to ICBC, my bet is 50/50 since there are no witnesses

nosaj
07-09-2009, 11:25 AM
well ur going straight, the lady is merging to your lane; therefore, you have the right of way.

just curious though...what was that stupid lady yelling at u for? for not letting her merge? or for driving right next to her at that time of the day instead of staying home? :rolleyes:

thorpedo
07-09-2009, 11:34 AM
Did this accident happen in new west this morning? I saw 2 honda's Silver and Black stopped in the curb lane with some good damage to the Silver one's driver side! almost ran over your side view mirror.... sorry!!

q0192837465
07-09-2009, 11:36 AM
some women can be serious bitches. They blame their mistake on everybody else but themselves

shenmecar
07-09-2009, 11:43 AM
some women can be serious bitches. They blame their mistake on everybody else but themselves

women like being ignorant.

Typical women response: Its YOUR fault that I hit you because you should have super fast reflexes when I merge without shoulder checking. Asshole.

skyxx
07-09-2009, 11:47 AM
Just report to ICBC. Tell your side of the story. If the damage is significant on your car then it's pretty clear that it's her fault. Plus the adjuster will see it pretty obviously. But one question. did you take any pictures of the "incident" right after you've been hit?

The_AK
07-09-2009, 12:02 PM
Did this accident happen in new west this morning? I saw 2 honda's Silver and Black stopped in the curb lane with some good damage to the Silver one's driver side! almost ran over your side view mirror.... sorry!!

yea man, the silver honda is mine

and the woman was yelling at me out of rage i'm assuming

edit*
i Did take some pictures but they were pretty crappy (cell phone)
however, there was a police officer there and he took pictures

!Yaminashi
07-09-2009, 12:11 PM
yea man, the silver honda is mine

and the woman was yelling at me out of rage i'm assuming

edit*
i Did take some pictures but they were pretty crappy (cell phone)
however, there was a police officer there and he took pictures

LOL, she's yelling at you because she can't shoulder check..
What a moron..

skyxx
07-09-2009, 12:28 PM
Was he there as a coincidence or did you have to call? Maybe he could be a witness if he saw it???

!Yaminashi
07-09-2009, 12:32 PM
If I recall correctly there's a police station on columbia in New West. So depending on where the accident occured, the cop may have been passing by

The_AK
07-09-2009, 12:38 PM
Was he there as a coincidence or did you have to call? Maybe he could be a witness if he saw it???

i called the police right after the accident

JSALES
07-09-2009, 01:37 PM
what a dumbass bitch for yelling, i would've smacked her

dkvby
07-09-2009, 02:18 PM
did the cop issues a ticket to her for unsafe lane changed? Cop didnt ask u what happened?

R-kOO
07-09-2009, 02:43 PM
dont know what excuse she can make ...... unless she says you tried to change lanes ..hit her and u swerved way over to the curb cus you got scared

nosaj
07-09-2009, 03:20 PM
did the cop issues a ticket to her for unsafe lane changed? Cop didnt ask u what happened?

lol that would be epic :haha:

dai3yuen
07-09-2009, 03:55 PM
Basically, if the other person says that you changed lanes into them and you have no witnesses, you could be stuck with a 50/50 split here, as it would be your word against there...although the curbed wheels may change the outcome...

But just because your wheels are curbed doesn't mean that, hypothetically, you were changing lanes, hit her and then swung back to the right and hit the curb.

Hopefully the other driver got a ticket from the cop for unsafe lane change or there are some witnesses and this is sorted out

CivicTypeRice
07-09-2009, 05:49 PM
what a dumbass bitch for yelling, i would've smacked her

+1

nosaj
07-10-2009, 09:31 AM
Basically, if the other person says that you changed lanes into them and you have no witnesses, you could be stuck with a 50/50 split here, as it would be your word against there...although the curbed wheels may change the outcome...

But just because your wheels are curbed doesn't mean that, hypothetically, you were changing lanes, hit her and then swung back to the right and hit the curb.

Hopefully the other driver got a ticket from the cop for unsafe lane change or there are some witnesses and this is sorted out

wha?

ecsw
07-10-2009, 02:36 PM
what's the exact location and which direction? just curious

pingu81
07-10-2009, 03:11 PM
This happened to me and I got fucked by ICBC. 50/50 just because there were no witnesses and they were unable to prove at-fault by the damage on both cars.

dai3yuen
07-10-2009, 04:38 PM
wha?

Witnesses do not always stop at the scene.....some people also put signs up at the accident location asking for witnesses. Sometimes people phone into ICBC and give their witness statements without any of the drivers knowing.

I've done that before as I was late for an appointment, didn't have time to stop. I noted the time and location and also one of the cars licence plate #'s and descriptions of the cars and then phoned it into dial-a-claim...

hk20000
07-10-2009, 06:37 PM
you had a police officer. I think the verdict is quite clear....

Gnomes
07-10-2009, 07:55 PM
Please keep us posted with whatever outcome

og_greek
07-10-2009, 08:36 PM
Of course she's going to say it was you who hit her, and then it becomes a he said vs she said argument. Hopefully the damage can clearly indicate she was at fault.

I got t-boned in an intersection when someone went through a red light. Thank god a police cruiser was already at the light waiting for it to turn green. He gave the guy a ticket for running a red. When I brought this to the attention of the adjuster, he was surprised, since the other party had already given their statement, made no mention of getting a ticket, and said I went through a red. I had to get a copy of the ticket from the cop to prove my story. F'ing bastard that kid was.

nosaj
07-10-2009, 09:13 PM
Witnesses do not always stop at the scene.....some people also put signs up at the accident location asking for witnesses. Sometimes people phone into ICBC and give their witness statements without any of the drivers knowing.

I've done that before as I was late for an appointment, didn't have time to stop. I noted the time and location and also one of the cars licence plate #'s and descriptions of the cars and then phoned it into dial-a-claim...

thats very nice of you! :thumbsup:

just curious tho...did icbc call u later on for any follow ups after?

The_AK
07-10-2009, 09:51 PM
heres a question, Say this person "acquires" a witness, but the witnesses story doesn't match up with the damage of the car, can ICBC look the other way and give her 100%?

Not really racist!
07-10-2009, 09:54 PM
Of course she's going to say it was you who hit her, and then it becomes a he said vs she said argument. Hopefully the damage can clearly indicate she was at fault.

I got t-boned in an intersection when someone went through a red light. Thank god a police cruiser was already at the light waiting for it to turn green. He gave the guy a ticket for running a red. When I brought this to the attention of the adjuster, he was surprised, since the other party had already given their statement, made no mention of getting a ticket, and said I went through a red. I had to get a copy of the ticket from the cop to prove my story. F'ing bastard that kid was.

that must of felt nice :)

MR_BIGGS
07-10-2009, 09:56 PM
From the sounds of the damage to your car that you've described, I think it would be pretty hard for the other party to bullshit their way out of this one

How do u know...you are the 3rd post..and he didn't describe the damage on his car?

The_AK
07-10-2009, 10:14 PM
How do u know...you are the 3rd post..and he didn't describe the damage on his car?

i did but edited it out,
i'll fill you guys in after the ordeal

WHEYsted
07-10-2009, 10:22 PM
I depends if she was in front of you then you were probably in her blind spot and it would be 50/50. But if she was behind you and she still merged into you then of course it's her fault.

NimbeeTT
07-10-2009, 10:50 PM
I depends if she was in front of you then you were probably in her blind spot and it would be 50/50. But if she was behind you and she still merged into you then of course it's her fault.

Wouldnt it technically still be her fault entirely if she merged without checking blind spot? =/ i mean, you cant blame someone for being in your blindspot and also you cant expect the OP to really "stop" in the middle of the road to let some dumb bitch merge right into his lane when theyre driving nearly side by side so suddenly lol Just doesnt really make sense that way.
I mean, unless she's got some really really good story made up about how it's his fault that they merged into each other, considering the way the OP's car was damaged, I dont see how the tables can be turned and have him be at fault for this accident even slightly.

On a side note, i cannot stand ppl not shoulder checking + merging without signals even when there are not that many cars around. argh </3

boibuddha
07-10-2009, 11:41 PM
This depends on the location of the damage to your vehicle.

If the damage is mainly to your fender area, there is almost no way of skewing the story in her favour. You win!

If the damage is to your quarter panel, she might BS about you merging over to her lane. She wins...

If the damage is across the whole side of your car, depends on the statements you guys make. Probable 50/50

dkvby
07-11-2009, 12:13 AM
I depends if she was in front of you then you were probably in her blind spot and it would be 50/50. But if she was behind you and she still merged into you then of course it's her fault.
How could it be 50/50 when he is in her blind spot and she merge in?

No, IF she didnt get a ticket. Its exactly the other way around. She could hv say u merge to her lane if the damage is at ur rear driver's side.
Same goes the other way, if ur damage is at ur front driver's side. That basically show she merge to ur lane and u were in her blind spot, unless she say u hit her on purpose

The_AK
07-11-2009, 12:49 AM
Well I spoke with icbc, they examined the car and found some pretty significant damage that shows that she turned into my car. All I have to do now is wait to see what each party's adjusters will say.

J-Chow
07-11-2009, 01:55 AM
would you mind posting pics of the damages? it'd be interesting to see where she hit ya. :)

WHEYsted
07-15-2009, 09:47 PM
Yes. I am sorry I believe she is mostly at fault.