[!Yaminashi]

The damage to my rear bumper isnt TOO bad, the guy wants to settle privately
but my question isnt to related to the procedure or anything like that.

I'm wondering if there is any damage to my car that poses any problems
(see pictures)

I'm a little worried due to the fact my trunk doesnt open and close smoothly, I'm not sure if you can tell by the pics but I guess there's a clip that holds onto the bumper (?) thats dented in, I'm not sure if this is connected to the frame or not..

Anyway, input please

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a257/huggie212/dented1.jpg?t=1247988596
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a257/huggie212/dented2.jpg?t=1247988615
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a257/huggie212/dented3.jpg?t=1247988631

[AVS_Racing]

y dont you just take it to a repair shop and ask them? also how much it would cost to fix im sure they will give u a more accurate answer. also u can tell them to print u an estimate to show the other person who hit u

[!Yaminashi]

y dont you just take it to a repair shop and ask them? also how much it would cost to fix im sure they will give u a more accurate answer. also u can tell them to print u an estimate to show the other person who hit u

I've already got a quote for a new factory bumper and absorber, however I didnt notice that my trunk was dented in until today when I tried to open it.

The hit was no more than 10km/h, which is why I didnt bother checking the trunk

All shops are closed around here on the weekend so I'm seeing if someone here would be able to shed some light.

[Razr]

take the person who rear ended you to a good shop and let them pay
I'm pretty sure a shop like kirmac will charge more than 700 for that

pics of the trunk?

[!Yaminashi]

take the person who rear ended you to a good shop and let them pay
I'm pretty sure a shop like kirmac will charge more than 700 for that

pics of the trunk?

We've already agreed that I'm ordering a new factory bumper and absorber, he's paying for the entire thing, and yeah its gonna cost around $700

But like I stated earlier I just noticed the damage to the trunk today, so I have no idea how much that will cost to fix, if its a piece that can just come off or if its somehow connected to the frame of the car..

The pictures I've posted already show the damage to the trunk

[Razr]

^^sorry thought you were talking about the actual trunk lid being damaged

what I would do is take off the rear bumper and inspect for dents/irregularities in comparisson to the undamaged side

[!Yaminashi]

^^sorry thought you were talking about the actual trunk lid being damaged

what I would do is take off the rear bumper and inspect for dents/irregularities in comparisson to the undamaged side

Oh sorry I didnt know what you meant, the trunk lid itself is fine
Its just the bumper and behind that (absorber, clips, trunk frame) that I'm worried about

I plan on taking it to a bodyshop on Monday to get them to take a quick look at it and tell me whats wrong, but until then I'm still looking for opinions here on RS :D

[!Aznboi128]

why dont you take the bumper cover off and see the damage underneath

that sucks man, hope you get a good place to fix your baby up

[!Yaminashi]

why dont you take the bumper cover off and see the damage underneath

that sucks man, hope you get a good place to fix your baby up

Due to lack of knowledge of how my own car is put together, I'll have to wait until I'm at the bodyshop to take it off, I dont want to break anything :(

Yeah, she's been through so much in the year Ive had her :(

[orange7]

off topic, but do you have any witness or signed contract?

[!Yaminashi]

off topic, but do you have any witness or signed contract?

Nope, there were absolutely no witnesses and thats what sucks. There just happened to be nobody around.
But I've called Nissan and they told me in order to order the parts, it has to be paid up front in full, so the guy is just going to meet me there and pay for it in front of me.

The only proof I have that he agreed to pay it is text messages unfortunately

But overall he seems to be a pretty honest guy
All the times I've tried contacting him he's responded with no delay

[Jacka]

you are not at fault, best to deal with ICBC instead, no hassle.

[orange7]

Nope, there were absolutely no witnesses and thats what sucks. There just happened to be nobody around.
But I've called Nissan and they told me in order to order the parts, it has to be paid up front in full, so the guy is just going to meet me there and pay for it in front of me.

The only proof I have that he agreed to pay it is text messages unfortunately

But overall he seems to be a pretty honest guy
All the times I've tried contacting him he's responded with no delay

did you take any pics with your cell phone?

[orange7]

you are not at fault, best to deal with ICBC instead, no hassle.

true.. no hassel, but what if the guy decides to backstab and say it wasn't his fault. Best thing to do is get this over with as quickly as possible.

[iwantaskyline]

true.. no hassel, but what if the guy decides to backstab and say it wasn't his fault. Best thing to do is get this over with as quickly as possible.

He was rearended...Not a chance in a hell ICBC will put him at fault.

[Fafine]

im assuming you didnt call icbc n report this in? cause you could report it to icbc and the guy at fault just tells icbc he wants to pay out of his pocket rather than going through his insurance. BUT this way icbc records your car for an accident.. well at least you know for the sure the guy's gonna keep his word. also did you get his info? incase he doesnt' keep his word you would know where to find him and able to provide the info needed to icbc

[impactX]

1) Report to ICBC
2) He can settle privately if he wants to

[thumper]

1) Report to ICBC
2) He can settle privately if he wants to

unless draft dosen't want the accident claim to show up in the car's icbc history.

[ilvtofu]

Ask if the guy is willing to fix it first
I guess text messages count as evidence too
So if he says no to fixing it go ICBC his ass

If you have it as an accident claim, it's not gonna make a big difference,
some $700-900 can show that it wasn't anything too serious

[racerman88]

always report to ICBC to cover your ass for any hidden damage. THe other driver can pay ICBC back

[!Yaminashi]

Thanks for the responses guys, but like I said, the guy already said he wants to settle it privately.

I did get all of his info, and I did phone into ICBC. I didnt report the claim YET, but I did ask the lady to make a note that I called in about it (just in case he decided to try to call in and turn it around on me somehow)

And that one night that I went out and got rear ended, I was just going out to get gas and I had left my phone at home, so I had no camera on me.

But does anyone have any opinions on if the frame itself is damaged?
Thats all this thread is really for:p

[Rikaro]

1. You have to report all accidents to ICBC, even if he decides to settle it privately.
2. That damage looks like it's going to cost more than $700

[68style]

He can still settle it privately even if you report it to ICBC and go to a claims centre... you gotta protect yourself man... you don't owe this guy any favours... it doesn't have to affect his insurance, he can choose to just pay the claim out.

PROTECT YOURSELF... go to ICBC, get it looked at by the claims person, they will see the trunk is damaged and you will be able to fix it properly and he can just pay out whatever the cost is.

I guarantee something will go wrong if you keep doing this the way you've done it.

[!Yaminashi]

He can still settle it privately even if you report it to ICBC and go to a claims centre... you gotta protect yourself man... you don't owe this guy any favours... it doesn't have to affect his insurance, he can choose to just pay the claim out.

PROTECT YOURSELF... go to ICBC, get it looked at by the claims person, they will see the trunk is damaged and you will be able to fix it properly and he can just pay out whatever the cost is.

I guarantee something will go wrong if you keep doing this the way you've done it.

Thanks for the advice, I just reported it to ICBC
The only reason I didnt want to at first was because I didnt really want it showing up on my vehicle history, but I'd rather get everything fixed properly

[slammer111]

always report to ICBC to cover your ass for any hidden damage. THe other driver can pay ICBC back+1.

I always that if you paid for the damage out of pocket (ie from the other dood), ICBC does NOT count it as a claim. Reporting it is a complete CYA move, I can't stress it enough.

[skyxx]

1. You have to report all accidents to ICBC, even if he decides to settle it privately.
2. That damage looks like it's going to cost more than $700

Just to cover your own ass. Report it to ICBC then settle it privately. But honestly I'd bring it to the shop. It's not your fault right?. If it was not your fault at all then just go through ICBC.

[Fafine]

well you cant exactly see if theres frame damage with the bumper still on... i guess your best bet would be tomorrow at the shop. since you can't take the bumper off yourself

[?NR]

looks like the end panel took a hit too. Looks repairable with a pull & square instead of replacing it. Potential for more hidden damage. ICBC it *which you already did*. That way he won't have anything to gripe about when the repair bill goes past the $700, which it will.

Have him settle privately with ICBC after, it's also the fairest way in dealing with this for BOTH parties.

[Volvoman]

Thanks for the advice, I just reported it to ICBC
The only reason I didnt want to at first was because I didnt really want it showing up on my vehicle history, but I'd rather get everything fixed properly

You did the right thing. You can't lose...when you're not at fault. You're only doing him a favour by not reporting it so that his insurance rates don't go up. However, when it comes to your car, you have to look out for #1, and thats you.

However, I must admit when my car got rear ended, I offered to let it settle privately only because there was so little damage. Just a small hole made by the license plate bolt from the car that hit me. I took it to a body shop, they said $400, I told the other drive and she paid up. Done and done.

[FatalCloud]

why do you have a xerox toner box in your trunk?

[orange7]

Thanks for the advice, I just reported it to ICBC
The only reason I didnt want to at first was because I didnt really want it showing up on my vehicle history, but I'd rather get everything fixed properly

i'd rather have a $700 claim showing in my car's history than later finding out that my car has other issues to be addressed. maybe other damages that aren't noticeable until like a month or so. Get yourself covered since the guy won't be paying the damage that shows up the day after your car is repaired.

LoL.. I think i started this whole off topic thing. LOL...


anyways.. the damage could go over $700 by a bit since you might want to repaint some area (the white line thingy on the bumper).

[!Yaminashi]

i'd rather have a $700 claim showing in my car's history than later finding out that my car has other issues to be addressed. maybe other damages that aren't noticeable until like a month or so. Get yourself covered since the guy won't be paying the damage that shows up the day after your car is repaired.

LoL.. I think i started this whole off topic thing. LOL...


anyways.. the damage could go over $700 by a bit since you might want to repaint some area (the white line thingy on the bumper).

That white line is a crack unfortunately, and I'm hoping that I get a new bumper

[rice cooker]

obviously he doesnt want his insurance to go back to 0%

if it costs $1000 to fix, ask for $2000 or else go to icbc.

[GLOW]

You did the right thing. You can't lose...when you're not at fault. You're only doing him a favour by not reporting it so that his insurance rates don't go up. However, when it comes to your car, you have to look out for #1, and thats you.

However, I must admit when my car got rear ended, I offered to let it settle privately only because there was so little damage. Just a small hole made by the license plate bolt from the car that hit me. I took it to a body shop, they said $400, I told the other drive and she paid up. Done and done.

i did the same thing when i was younger, figure i'll help the guy out. it was a total headache on my side, the guy was total shady. now that i'm older and wiser i'd never do it again. totally in your best interest to report it to icbc and let them handle it. not worth all the drama.

[Death2Theft]

Draft being a mod you should really sticky this. NEVER EVER settle outside of ICBC, because icbc offers a pay the cost of the claim to the person at fault before they ding their premuim. This is the only gauranteed way things will be fixed to any suitable standard (icbc's hopefully)

[!Aznboi128]

I blame the K&N air filter!

but yea I can't believe I didn't say it but currently ICBC is your friend (hard to imagine huh?) but yea now that you got a claim, best thing to do is to find a good place to get it fixed.... somewhere that will paint the bumper evenly

[johny]

damage under 2k doesn't count against the car anyways (if you try to sell it later it's still accident free) so trying to not go through ICBC just to protect your car's history is dumb. go through ICBC. he pays ICBC for the bill, his insurance is not effected.

[Red 5]

damage under 2k doesn't count against the car anyways (if you try to sell it later it's still accident free) so trying to not go through ICBC just to protect your car's history is dumb. go through ICBC. he pays ICBC for the bill, his insurance is not effected.

That's not entirely true. You don't have to disclose an accident claim under $2000. But, a claim under $2000 will still show up on an ICBC check/carproof/carfax.

[shantz]

Thanks for the responses guys, but like I said, the guy already said he wants to settle it privately.

I did get all of his info, and I did phone into ICBC. I didnt report the claim YET, but I did ask the lady to make a note that I called in about it (just in case he decided to try to call in and turn it around on me somehow)

And that one night that I went out and got rear ended, I was just going out to get gas and I had left my phone at home, so I had no camera on me.

But does anyone have any opinions on if the frame itself is damaged?
Thats all this thread is really for:p

It doesn't look like the frame itself is damaged - it appears the rear end panel has been pushed in slightly - probably a few hours of repair + paint.

Looks like a $1200-$1300 hit in total.

[orange7]

^
the paint shouldn't be too expensive since it's not premium. But you're right, the paint job is going to still be pricy regardless of premium or not..

I think the cost will end up somwhere $800-$900, if he's not getting a brand new bumper piece.

[!Yaminashi]

So I took it to the bodyshop today, they think I'll end up getting a new bumper, the rear panel will have to be straightened out as well

I have no idea what the cost will be, but I'm not paying it so.... :p

[Psykopathik]

#1 rule of all accidents. GOTO ICBC.

unless he's your buddy. GOTO ICBC.

i don';t care if he says his buddy is an auto body guy and can do it for cheap. GOTO ICBC

you don't owe him any favors. GOTO ICBC

[jlenko]

I backed into a guy in a parking lot this past winter, with one of the horrible blizzards we got hit with. I told him to take it to the dealership, and I'd pay for it. Cost me $650 for a dented fender and a corner light... but ICBC was never involved.

There is no harm in letting the guy try and do the right thing his own way... but if you get the sense it's going sideways or you're suddenly being ignored - then you call ICBC and fuck him.

[orange7]

I have to confess now. When I first read the thread title and without reading what's in it, I thought it was about some anal porn.

[!Yaminashi]

Thought I'd give a quick update:

Got my car back today, everything looks like new. Apparently my bumper wasnt actually cracked. No complaints about the paint match, I cant tell the difference but they guarantee 100% match anyway

My only gripe is that it seems there is less gap between the top of my bumper and bottom of the trunk lid. It feels like there's less "give" when I close my trunk, I cant tell if the trunk lid actually comes in contact with the bumper when I close the trunk or not..

Other than that, no complaints
Terry said total came to about $24xx.xx
Good thing I went through ICBC, thanks to RS!

[slammer111]

^ Not sure about your car, but many cars have adjustable rubber stops that you can screw in or out. Either DIY or have the dealer do it for a few bucks. Normally they'd be doing it on the assembly line anyways, and it wouldn't necessarily mean that your parts don't fit perfectly.

[shantz]

Thought I'd give a quick update:

Got my car back today, everything looks like new. Apparently my bumper wasnt actually cracked. No complaints about the paint match, I cant tell the difference but they guarantee 100% match anyway

My only gripe is that it seems there is less gap between the top of my bumper and bottom of the trunk lid. It feels like there's less "give" when I close my trunk, I cant tell if the trunk lid actually comes in contact with the bumper when I close the trunk or not..

Other than that, no complaints
Terry said total came to about $24xx.xx
Good thing I went through ICBC, thanks to RS!

Did they replace the trunk-lid weatherstrip? If it's new, it could result in less "give" when closing the trunk until the weatherstrip is worked in a bit.

[6thGear.]

My only gripe is that it seems there is less gap between the top of my bumper and bottom of the trunk lid. It feels like there's less "give" when I close my trunk, I cant tell if the trunk lid actually comes in contact with the bumper when I close the trunk or not..
!

You can take it back to the shop and they can readjust it. Most likely because the trunk lock latch was taken off and when they put it back in they didn't re-adjust it. It's a pretty simple fix. If the trunk lid did come in contact with the bumper, you would know, cause it would mark up the bumper.

[asian_speedster]

Just go through ICBC, no need to take unnecessary risk.

And when you do sell the car, its probably best to disclose any accidents anyways and have the new buyer know that they were properly repaired.

[GLOW]

#1 rule of all accidents. GOTO ICBC.


my friend that works at ICBC says the same thing :thumbsup: