Abottsford Airshow [Archive] - REVscene Automotive Forum

Boostslut

07-21-2009, 07:05 PM

Very nice! For the airshow application, would you bring a crop and a 400mm or full frame? I was thinking a wide angle for static planes, and tele. I love the view-finder on the full frame with the 400, although the tracking ability of the 40D is better than the 5D.

Senna4ever

07-21-2009, 10:41 PM

Shit, is the 5DmkII that bad? Maybe I'll bring the 1DsmkIII or maybe I'll bring the Nikon D700 & 500mm f4.

Boostslut

08-06-2009, 01:10 PM

What setup should i take to the airshow? I have 5DII 40D, a 400mm, a 70-200mm. Which setup for in-flight? crop or full frame + 400? I was gonna go with the 5d + 17-40mm for static displays. :)

Senna please don't bring the Canon 500mm. If i see you i might just have to pick one up. You have no clue how bad i've been lusting over that lens. and a 1.4x. Yum!

Senna4ever

08-06-2009, 04:12 PM

I'd say slap the 70-200 on the 40D and put the 400mm on the 5DmkII. The use the 5D + 17-40 for the static displays.

Are you going on Sunday? I'll be in the reserved seating area with workmates.

Boostslut

08-06-2009, 06:53 PM

I've thought about going in the better seating myself to get a great view of everything, including taking off and landing. I love the photo's of the planes with their jet wash coming off the back. I'll have to look into that. :)

Thanks for the advice!

Senna4ever

08-06-2009, 10:57 PM

Boot, you going Saturday or Sunday? Anyone else going?

Past airshow threads:
http://www.revscene.net/forums/abbotsford-airshow-2007-t486713.html

http://www.revscene.net/forums/abbotsford-airshow-2008-t541415.html

peazs

08-07-2009, 11:03 PM

i'm going tomorrow. got some corporate chalet tickets. will be my first air show lol. don't got the range for shooting tho... so will just most likely try and take some and crop!

how do u guys go about shooting these? fast shutter speed or pan?

Senna4ever

08-07-2009, 11:28 PM

Take at least a 200mm lens. With propeller driven aircraft, use a slower shutter speed of around 1/125 to blur the props....frozen props on a plane look wrong. With jets, I usually switch to aperture priority and shoot at f8. Remember to meter the planes, not the sky, unless you want to get some cool silhouette photos.

I'm going Sunday for sure.

Senna4ever

08-07-2009, 11:38 PM

Senna please don't bring the Canon 500mm. If i see you i might just have to pick one up. You have no clue how bad i've been lusting over that lens. and a 1.4x. Yum!
I've got the 1Ds mkIII + 500mm f4L IS for the weekend, so if you see me in the reserved seating area, come on over! :)

niforpix

08-08-2009, 04:00 PM

I dunno if any of you have been to the Chilliwack air show before, but I went one year with my XTi (at the time) and my shit 70-300mm IS and I actually got some good shots.

Boostslut

08-08-2009, 07:24 PM

I've got the 1Ds mkIII + 500mm f4L IS for the weekend, so if you see me in the reserved seating area, come on over! :)

Senna, your killing me here! I'll be there with the g/f and a few friends so i'll do my best to make my way over! :) I dream of that thing in my sleep... *sighs*

Soundy

08-09-2009, 08:18 AM

I dunno if any of you have been to the Chilliwack air show before, but I went one year with my XTi (at the time) and my shit 70-300mm IS and I actually got some good shots.

I got some good ones, too, with my old 75-300 on my 40D at the Pitt Meadows airshow this year. If it's a nice sunny day, you can usually get away pretty good with slower lenses.

Senna, your killing me here! I'll be there with the g/f and a few friends so i'll do my best to make my way over! :) I dream of that thing in my sleep... *sighs*

Ha, don't take your g/f over there when Senna's waving his big thing around! :haha:

Senna4ever

08-09-2009, 09:46 AM

Senna, your killing me here! I'll be there with the g/f and a few friends so i'll do my best to make my way over! :) I dream of that thing in my sleep... *sighs*

I'm sitting in section 12, row 1, seat 4, in case you see this. I have the aforementioned gear, and my co-worker has a 50D + 400mm f5.6.

DC5-S

08-09-2009, 08:31 PM

some photos I took today.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/40347275@N08/

niforpix

08-09-2009, 08:36 PM

^^ Nice shot! :)

Boostslut

08-09-2009, 09:05 PM

Here's a few that i got today :)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2652/3806226769_e0b1185f73_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2526/3807048798_653142957e_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3559/3807046692_9847812b6b_o.jpg

It was a good show! Turned out to be really nice and warm later on in the day. It was nice to briefly meet Senna, and him fumbling around with his rig! I'll have more pictures up in the next few days!

Nice shots DC5-S!

DC5-S

08-09-2009, 09:16 PM

thanks, ^ what range is your lense? those are some nice close ups

Senna4ever

08-09-2009, 09:19 PM

It was a good show! Turned out to be really nice and warm later on in the day. It was nice to briefly meet Senna, and him fumbling around with his rig! I'll have more pictures up in the next few days!

Nice shots DC5-S!
Yes, it was a good show, and yes, it was nice meeting you! You have the same pics as I do. Haha.. And I wasn't fumbling! I was just having some....temporary technical issues.... :willnill:

keitaro

08-09-2009, 10:30 PM

I went on Saturday. The show this year was great. I only wish I had a ultra zoom.. heck even a real zoom lens. All I had was my kit 17-85 :(.

Senna4ever

08-09-2009, 10:35 PM

I heard the cloud cover was really low on Friday and Saturday. It got warm and sunny today. The Snowbirds flew their regular routine, instead of their low cloud routine. :)

Senna4ever

08-10-2009, 01:40 AM

Some of mine. More to follow. :)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Airshow/011D9214.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Airshow/011D9211.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Airshow/011D9314.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Airshow/011D9256.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Airshow/011D9294.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Airshow/011D9487.jpg

niforpix

08-10-2009, 05:52 AM

^^ Sick.

Boostslut

08-10-2009, 07:32 AM

Yup, those pics are awesome Senna! Really like the jelly belly one! Grreat colors! The others are not bad either. The bland background doesn't help out much.

keitaro

08-10-2009, 10:18 AM

I heard the cloud cover was really low on Friday and Saturday. It got warm and sunny today. The Snowbirds flew their regular routine, instead of their low cloud routine. :)

The snowbirds had a different routines for Friday and Saturday. While on coffee break (I work in the large hanger on the east side of yxx) they did had a different routine compared to what I saw on Saturday. The cloud was really low on Saturday. Friday I think was a bit better. Nonetheless even a low show was still really good. It was great to see Hawk One fly.

Here is one from Saturday

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3471/3806586771_b05896e591_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/s_chang/3806586771/)

DC5-S

08-10-2009, 03:13 PM

this years show kinda sucked.. where were the blue angels, stealth fighter, B2 bomber?? last time i went 04-05 they had those..

Matsuda

08-10-2009, 05:20 PM

Nice photos Senna! I especially like the first one, nice composition

Senna4ever

08-10-2009, 06:31 PM

this years show kinda sucked.. where were the blue angels, stealth fighter, B2 bomber?? last time i went 04-05 they had those..
Oh, I don't know. I liked it. I don't really like the Blue Angels or Thunderbirds, as they're all about speed and power, unlike the Snowbirds that showcase precision and skill. The F117 stealth fighter was retired just over a year ago, so you'll never see it again. The F22 has taken its place, so maybe we'll see it here soon? The B2 bomber cannot fly under 3000 or 5000 feet for security reasons, so even if it was scheduled to do a flyby, you wouldn't have seen it.

Boostslut

08-10-2009, 09:55 PM

More pictures! :)

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3479/3810021747_c79f25cac0_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3530/3810010817_72d261930e_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2427/3810825648_4da40261d5_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3579/3810829072_824f539dd1_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2633/3810020571_b73e0fdd41_b.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3463/3810821546_10b7653f0e_b.jpg

Hope you enjoy! :)

I still have around 400 photo's to go thru from my other camera. For now see the rest at http://www.flickr.com/photos/ernieturner/sets/72157621871495307/ :) Thanks!

keitaro

08-10-2009, 11:26 PM

Oh, I don't know. I liked it. I don't really like the Blue Angels or Thunderbirds, as they're all about speed and power, unlike the Snowbirds that showcase precision and skill. The F117 stealth fighter was retired just over a year ago, so you'll never see it again. The F22 has taken its place, so maybe we'll see it here soon? The B2 bomber cannot fly under 3000 or 5000 feet for security reasons, so even if it was scheduled to do a flyby, you wouldn't have seen it.

A few years ago, the B-2 did exactly 2 flybys. It was scheduled for a Saturday show only. It basically flew like multiple airshows (cannot remember how many) one day, and yxx was one of its shows. It never landed, it just came and went. It was pretty neat to see it.

Senna4ever

08-11-2009, 12:31 AM

I think it was 2005 when the B2 was last here. I don't have any digital images of it, so it must have been 2005, as I got my DSLR in October of that year. I seem to recall the B2 on static display a number of years back, but I might be wrong.

eurochevy

08-11-2009, 12:38 AM

thoughs are some good shots..snow birds flew over house basically that day too that was cool lol

DC5-S

08-11-2009, 12:54 AM

unfortunately, my idiot friend was whining and wanted to leave.. so we left at 4.. dont know what happened after that.. anyone get shots of the MiG?

Boostslut

08-11-2009, 04:41 AM

Here's the Mig! I have a few more shots, i'll put some more up later if u like.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3513/3810011517_656c4ac1ef_b.jpg

DC5-S

08-11-2009, 09:57 AM

wow! thats an amazing shot. whats your gear?

CP.AR

08-11-2009, 10:15 AM

Nice shots! I wished I could go.... but it was raining when I was free (sunday)

Senna4ever

08-11-2009, 11:39 AM

Nice shots! I wished I could go.... but it was raining when I was free (sunday)

It was not raining in Abbotsford - it was the best day to go, as the cloud cover was high.

roastpuff

08-11-2009, 12:46 PM

Senna, really like the juxtaposition of the Maple Leaf and the (Sukhoi? I don't think that's an F-15, and that doesn't look like a Super Hornet...). Makes me feel patriotic... I just wish that was a CF-18!

Senna4ever

08-11-2009, 03:58 PM

Boostslut

08-11-2009, 04:22 PM

Whats my gear? I went back and forth from the 40D + 400 5.6 and the 5D MKII + 400 5.6 :)

Thanks for the compliments on the pictures! :)

roastpuff

08-11-2009, 06:18 PM

Thanks, but it's an F-15, and also not my photo. :p

My Air Cadet instructors would be very disappointed in me right now... are you sure that's an F-15? :p

And sorry about the miscredit Bootslut!

Boostslut

08-11-2009, 06:31 PM

Yup, forsure thats a F-15! Look at the wings, totally gives it away. Actually everything gives it away. And its Boost, not Boot. :P

peazs

08-13-2009, 09:13 PM

great pics guys! i went on saturday and was in the chalet seating at rogers media. i envied all those who had their super long ass bazooka lenses! :\

i didn't follow the names of the jets... just watched them lol. do the snowbirds only come out at the end of the show? waited forever!

jlo mein

08-13-2009, 10:14 PM

Did anyone spot the EA-6B Prowler at the static displays on the weekend? I went on the friday and it wasn't there, but its listed on the airshow website (which warns military commitments may prevent aircraft from attending). Also, did they open up a C-17 Globemaster for static display so you could walk into it?

Gumby

08-13-2009, 10:17 PM

I wanted to go... First time in a recent history that it hasn't been blazing hot out in Abbotsford!

That's definitely an F-15. The notches on the horizontal tails are pretty distinct!

Senna4ever

08-14-2009, 12:10 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Airshow/011D9373-Edit.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Airshow/011D9561-Edit.jpg

100% crop
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Airshow/011D9529-Edit.jpg

MiG 17
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Airshow/011D9641-Edit.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Airshow/011D9851-Edit.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Airshow/011D9896-Edit-Edit.jpg

Man, the 1DsmkIII is a crappy piece of shit. The AF works like a champ, but the AE is so unreliable. The screen sucks so much it's difficult to gauge focus. I lost a ton of images that should have been good due to the AE.

twitchyzero

08-14-2009, 11:57 PM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/Senna4ever/Airshow/011D9256.jpg
is that a J7?

Senna4ever

08-14-2009, 11:59 PM

No it's an F-16, not a MiG.

keitaro

08-15-2009, 12:36 AM

Senna what settings were you using for shooting? Where you locked in to Tv and used EC or where you going manual?

Senna4ever

08-15-2009, 12:42 AM

Senna what settings were you using for shooting? Where you locked in to Tv and used EC or where you going manual?

For the most part, I would shoot the jets using aperture priority at f8, for the propeller planes, shutter priority at 1/125sec~1/250sec to blur the propellers. As the 1DsmkIII was so bad with AE, I ended up shooting manually for the most part.

jlo mein

08-15-2009, 05:03 AM

So I guess no one looked at the static displays to see if they had the EA-6B Prowler and C-17 Globemaster? May not be able to see the Prowler in a couple years since the US Navy is phasing them out.

Prowler
http://corrdefense.nace.org/CorrDefense_Summer_2006/images/503speedbrake.jpg

Globemaster
http://www.aviationearth.com/Images/C-17_4.jpg

Soundy

08-15-2009, 08:15 AM

That's definitely an F-15. The notches on the horizontal tails are pretty distinct!

Another easy way to tell the difference between and F-15 and F-18, especially in head- or tail-on shots: the F-15's vertical stabilizers are actually vertical, while the F-18's angle outward at the top.

Solo_D33A

08-15-2009, 10:13 PM

I went this year, the Globemaster's off limits... :( I didn't bother to see the inside of any other.

peazs

08-23-2009, 12:27 AM

A bit late but better than nothing! :D

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2552/3847252915_6af4be1e03.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3434/3848044104_de0a64d7fc.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2564/3848044160_3282739ac9.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2608/3847253225_abc52a3564.jpg

keitaro

08-23-2009, 09:36 AM

For the most part, I would shoot the jets using aperture priority at f8, for the propeller planes, shutter priority at 1/125sec~1/250sec to blur the propellers. As the 1DsmkIII was so bad with AE, I ended up shooting manually for the most part.

wow i am surprised you used aperture priority for shooting jets. Do you find that there are better results compared to shooting in shutter priority set at 1/1000sec?

Senna4ever

08-23-2009, 10:09 AM

wow i am surprised you used aperture priority for shooting jets. Do you find that there are better results compared to shooting in shutter priority set at 1/1000sec?

Why are you surprised? For jets you just need to set a certain depth of field to keep the plane in focus. Let the camera set the shutter speed. If you shoot on shutter priority set at 1/1000sec, it was so bright that day, that your aperture could go down to f22 or f27, which would make your image less sharp due to diffraction. F5.6 ~ f11 is the sweet spot of any lens - that's where it is the sharpest. Unless I need the depth of field, I never shoot anything at over f16.

Soundy

08-23-2009, 10:10 AM

With objects moving that fast, you really want to get the most DOF you can, and the only way to assure that is to lock down your aperture - you don't want it dropping if the scene darkens and leaving your plane out of focus.

I found when shooting stock cars, I was actually better off metering off the pavement (a medium grey) and then locking my exposure in manual... there was so much variation in the brightness of the colors of the cars, with everything from all-black to all-white and three dozen levels in between, that my exposure was swinging 2-3 stops through the course of a race... I'd end up with white cars looking grey on a really dark field, and black cars looking grey and speed-smeared on a washed-out field.

I don't imagine planes are much different.

Soundy

08-23-2009, 10:11 AM

Why are you surprised? For jets you just need to set a certain depth of field to keep the plane in focus. Let the camera set the shutter speed. If you shoot on shutter priority set at 1/1000sec, it was so bright that day, that your aperture could go down to f22 or f27, which would make your image less sharp due to diffraction. F5.6 ~ f11 is the sweet spot of any lens - that's where it is the sharpest. Unless I need the depth of field, I never shoot anything at over f16.

Seems to me "two stops down from wide open" has traditionally been the rule-of-thumb for most lenses' sharpest aperture.

Senna4ever

08-23-2009, 10:15 AM

Seems to me "two stops down from wide open" has traditionally been the rule-of-thumb for most lenses' sharpest aperture.

...which is why I wrote f5.6 ~ f11, which would be the sweet spot for most lenses...unless you have a f0.95 or f1.4 lens, in which case f2~f2.8 would the sweet spot. :D

keitaro

08-23-2009, 01:53 PM