[AsBannedAsItGets]

I sold a 30" Dell monitor this morning to a guy using Craigslist.
He e-mailed me then I gave him my number to which he then called me to setup a meeting.
Everything went normally since I've used Craigslist a bunch of times without a problem.
The gentleman arrives at my place and says he's in a rush so its like a super quick in & out transaction.
I didn't have the monitor setup but I asked him if he'd like to test it out which I had no problem doing. The guy says no making some excuse that he's in a rush so I'm all like okkkkkkk dude (in my mind) Thought that was odd since I sold it to him for $860 (not chump change)

This evening I received a call from him telling me he wants his money back because the LCD screen isn't working. Now I don't know about you but I'm kind of peeved off by this guy. I told him its not my fault the LCD screen isn't working. For all I know the screen could have damaged by him by accident while it was in his possession. To make matters worse is the fact he is threatening me saying he's gonna come over and "get his money back one way or another". I'm actually quite nervous because I've never handled this kind of a situation before. Does anyone know what I can do?
I really don't want this mess to blow up but on the other hand I don't think I should refund him his money. I am 99% positive the screen was working before it left my house.

[murd0c]

I would be careful, he could of had the exact screen and hes trying to scam you by switching it. I would tell him sorry deals done and thats it!!!

[ajax]

Seems like it's his own fault for having the faulty monitor, it was sold as is and you have him the chance of testing it. If he tries anything you could always assemble an RS Beatdown Crew.

[CrisQo]

sounds like he's trying to scam you. if you feel threatened for your personal safety then call the police and file a report.

whatever you do, don't refund his money.

[pandalove]

call the police and let them know what happened
dun open ur door the whole way to talk to him if he comes back
and if he shows up and wont leave call the police right away

[hirevtuner]

since he was in a hurry at the time of sale, it is his own fault for not checking the condition what he purchased when he lseft. if he threatens you, arm yourself with pepper spray and a ball bat but taser also helps

[asian_XL]

like other just said...be quick and file a report with the police. Print out the CL ad then
tell them the story. It is also necessary for you to prove them your monitor was in
working condition before the transaction (ex a picture of your monitor is working
condition).

If he is threatening you again, tell him you have filed a report with a police, and suggest
him to bring that to a small claim court. There are many scammers out there, so beware
of them.

[hal0g0dv2]

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[ajax]

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isnt that gun in CS?

ps, you need a 50 cal if you want to get your message across
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[Carl Johnson]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3K-mrlYG7Y

KONG-PAO his ass and don't forget the kick in the groin.

[Rogue951]

this is why I never conduct business at my house.

I don't think u will either after this.

I'd say it's his fault for being careless and "in a rush". and probably everyone would agree. But there's little u can do about it except file a report saying he's threatening you. document, tape, video everything.

[Gridlock]

I run my business off of craigslist. Honestly, I have never had a problem, but I never give people any more than my cell phone number. I sold one thing ages ago in my house, and I felt weird having him there, and decided to never do it again.

Approach everyone with the idea that it may go badly. That attitude has never let me down (yet)

[cunninglinguist]

Your best bet would be to file a police report. Include all details and names so if something happens to you, there's going to be a record of it.

[ajei]

yeah...fuck that guy...he should have checked it during transaction. My guess is, he's trying to scam you. If he calls you again, tell him it worked, and he was offered to check it, and that you think he's scamming you; call him on it....even if he's not scamming, maybe that would make him realize he should check merchandise in a transaction, and he'll back off.

[Vansterdam]

police report

[tgill]

I run my business off of craigslist. Honestly, I have never had a problem, but I never give people any more than my cell phone number. I sold one thing ages ago in my house, and I felt weird having him there, and decided to never do it again.

Approach everyone with the idea that it may go badly. That attitude has never let me down (yet)
yea I've had the same situation where I've sold one thing out of my house and it felt weird. I always meet people in a public place nowadays, brentwood usually.

sounds like a scam i'd follow everyone elses advice a file a report

[cobra_commander]

i use craigslist on a daily to sell or buy, everytime i have to do a transaction.... i make sure its held at a public place, anything over $500 i copy down his/hers personal id and i show mine in return.

[Qmx323]

Buyers own problem. Whenever you buy an electronic, you always check if its working right. The second that item leaves the house, its entirely the buyers own responsibility whether it works or not. You didn't offer him a warranty/guarantee that it would work, you offered him to test it and he declined to test it. You have nothing to be afraid of.

[cobra_commander]

Buyers own problem. Whenever you buy an electronic, you always check if its working right. The second that item leaves the house, its entirely the buyers own responsibility whether it works or not. You didn't offer him a warranty/guarantee that it would work, you offered him to test it and he declined to test it. You have nothing to be afraid of.

x1

[124Y]

He's definitely trying to scam you. Call the cops man.

[icemiko]

Don't refund his money, file a police report if he keeps threatening you. That's why you should always meet up in a public place and not your house, if they really want to test it out you can always bring it over to their house.

[Harvey Specter]

The first thing that stands out to me from your story is that he was in a rush and didn't want to see if the LCD was working, that's a major red flag seeing how the LCD wasn't exactly cheap because most people would want to see the damn thing working before paying $800+. I would ignore this guy, if he calls again tell him you're going to call the police and report him for threaten you. Not sure what the cops will do but not a bad idea to call them anyways if shit gets out of control.

[Eastwood]

Cops won't do anything unless he actually comes to your house and assaults you.

Keep your doors locked and don't answer the phone. If he comes to your front door then you call the cops, and try to make it that he doesn't know your inside.

[cobra_commander]

Cops won't do anything unless he actually comes to your house and assaults you.

Keep your doors locked and don't answer the phone. If he comes to your front door then you call the cops, and try to make it that he doesn't know your inside.

+ let him leave you a message on your phone. if he says anything like "i will fuck you up if you dont give me my money back" then you have evidence to produce if needed. if your close with your neighbours advice them about the problem and if they see the car drive by or parked infront of your home its another evidence that this guy is harrassing you.

[Noir]

Thought that was odd since I sold it to him for $860 (not chump change)

I don't think it's a scam. No self-respecting scam artist would leave his capital under the custody and control of his mark and leave the onus of rerieving it upon himself.

That's just a horrible scam in which the advantage is actually for the benefit of "the mark." My bests guess is if the Monitor was not sold damaged, it probably occurred during transport. His threats are probably coming from the same place your frustration is coming from. He probably thinks you scammed him just as much as some people think he's scamming you.

[MWR34]

I don't think it's a scam. No self-respecting scam artist would leave his capital under the custody and control of his mark and leave the onus of rerieving it upon himself.

That's just a horrible scam in which the advantage is actually for the benefit of "the mark." My bests guess is if the Monitor was not sold damaged, it probably occurred during transport. His threats are probably coming from the same place your frustration is coming from. He probably thinks you scammed him just as much as some people think he's scamming you.

50/50:haha:

[Razor Ramon HG]

Either way, OP is in the right. If he says it was last checked to be working, and the buyer didn't decide to take the time and make sure it was working, who's fault does it fall upon? The buyer's. It's not the OP's responsibility to get the buyer to check it, it's the buyer's. The OP's only responsibility is to make sure whatever he's selling is working, and to secure the payment. Even if the buyer was in a "rush", he still should've taken the time to examine a $800 piece of equipment.

Either the buyer's a total goof and probably fucked it up during transportation, or he's trying to pull a fast one. It doesn't matter though because even if takes OP to a small claims court, he'll lose :lol

[Eclypz]

buyer beware...
his own damn fault for not checking it out before he buys...especially since it's a $800+ purchase.

If he's threatening you, it's time to get the police involved.

Like you said, you're 99% sure it was working...anything could have happened to it since he took it.

The next time he contacts you be polite, yet firm...something along the lines of:
"I'm sorry you're having trouble with it, but the product was sold "as is". I'm positive it was working when I handed it you, and I offered to provide a demonstration, which you declined. Please understand my point of view and that anything could have happened to it after you took possession. If you continue to harass me, I will not hesitate to contact the police."

[boatcaptain]

now u learn your lesson,dun let stranger know where u live

[ImportPsycho]

so obvisouly he's trying to swap it with his own damaged exact same model
ask him for serial number lol
or he's too dumb to setup a monitor and saying it's not working when it does

even if you sold him a dud, still he's fault for not checking

[Anjew]

did you give him the power cord as well??? jk

[asian_XL]

you deleted the post on craigslist already?

[distanc3]

OP is right as mentioned above. File a police report, give the mans contact, CL print out report back to police if you receive any threaten phone calls better yet if you're able to record on your cell phone.
its understanding that you sold the monitor from home because others may want to test it out GL next time.

[wnderinguy]

Its also possible the buyer doesn't know how to set up a monitor and it simply won't work "on his setup",was he trying to use it as his primary or was he trying it in a Dual monitor setup?What are his computer specs.Maybe point him to www.virtualdr.com or www.hardwarecentral.com ,both have been very useful in helping me with difficult comp probs.


Or you could just ask him to meet you somewhere to discuss issue, the next Revscene meet perhaps.:die:

[twitchyzero]

see the thing is to never meet up with strangers at your location..but how do the buyer test things like a computer setup for example in a public place?

I never had that problem yet but for those that have sold electronics that need a computer or whatever for buyer to test it..where do you guuys meet up?

[illicitstylz]

for testing a monitor you could always just get a laptop, bring the laptop to wherever location and hook up the monitor to it...

[racerman88]

his fault, not yours

[CorneringArtist]

Once the money and the merchandise changes hands, it's all on the new owner to be careful. It's not the OP's fault that the monitor broke in the new owner's possession, unless the seller is willing to refund if anything goes wrong.

Stick with everyone's advice. Watch yourself and get in contact with the Police. You're not at fault for selling him faulty product that you know works. Whenever I buy something off CL (or even RS for that matter), I check to see if it works. I did it with a PSP and a Zune I bought, both off of CL.

[RiceIntegraRS]

Its called Buyer Beware for a reason

[Fafine]

i got a brand new bottle of bear mace laying around, pm me if you want to buy it.

[pandalove]

OP didn't respond to this thread.... wonder if he dead..

[twitchyzero]

for testing a monitor you could always just get a laptop, bring the laptop to wherever location and hook up the monitor to it...

what if it's a video card?

[Razor Ramon HG]

If it's a video card, you test that it works and watch the guy pull it out?

[Mr.HappySilp]

lol if he calls again tell him u have file a report already and if he wants to proceed he can get it to small claim courts and tell him that you all the LCD info(serieal number.......). If he calls u again like what others have said let him leave a message on ur Voice mail. If he keeps calling file a report with the police saying he keep threatening you and hrassing you. Also give the police all his info(Cell number....). I would also check with the bank to see if all of the money he give is real. If it is not again file it with the police.

[AsBannedAsItGets]

Hey, sorry for not chiming in sooner with a progress report but this is really stressing me out.
While I'm not afraid for my safety I am really disappointed by this whole fiasco.
I didn't think this would happen to me but there's always a first time for everything.
My hunch tells me the guy I sold the monitor to isn't a scammer, its just my gut feeling.
When he came to my house he seemed like a friendly person.
I suppose he's just frustrated that the monitor is not working. Looking at it from his point of view I'd be a bit miffed too.
You can never be sure though, thats why I'm not ruling out anything at this point.

I e-mailed him because I decided to block his number for obvious reasons.
I don't want to report him to the police until absolutely necessary.
I made sure to inform him that he needs a dual link dvi connector capable graphics card in order to use the LCD. I just hope its not the fact he's not computer savvy.
Second thing I mentioned is the fact that I allowed him the chance to test it before he bought it. That in itself should not hold me responsible for any problems after I sold it to him. However, in this day and age people have stupid self entitlement issues.
Its not like the monitor is under warranty any more. This is one of the downsides of buying used items.

The one thing I am going to do is take all precautionary measures because its always better to be safe then sorry. Other than that we'll see how this plays out. I have my fingers crossed that he's just having setup issues. I'll keep you guys informed and I gotta thank everyone for being understanding while offering thoughtful advice. One thing I'll stop doing is selling stuff from my home. I didn't think it was that big of an issue but its definitely a risky thing to be doing. In hindsight a big no no!

[RFlush]

Call him up and ask him for his address so you can come by and see the monitor. Now you have his address and if he fucks with your house, you know where he lives ;)

[Bonjour43MA]

never

ever

in a million years

meet up with a seller/buyer at your house. That's pretty much rule #1 in online shopping for 2nd hand items.

[butter_sashimi]

^ I dont know about that... OP better go to the buyer's house armed with support then. It's like walking into a lion's den.

[Sid Vicious]

lesson is

people are scum, don't trust anyone.

[Qmx323]

never

ever

in a million years

meet up with a seller/buyer at your house. That's pretty much rule #1 in online shopping for 2nd hand items.

lol... i once met up with a buyer at my friends house, friend wasn't in the country atm and he left me in charge of his place. Luckily the buyer was a nice guy and it alllll went smooth as a babies ass

[Razor Ramon HG]

People have entered my Hard Gay dungeon, and all of them have left satisfied with the product, and my service ;)

[Harvey Specter]

Did you ever have issues with the LCD?

[46_valentinor]

People have entered my Hard Gay dungeon, and all of them have left satisfied with the product, and my service ;)

LOL

[impactX]

Call the police non-emergency number to file a report first. (604)717-3321 if you reside in Vancouver. They need to have this on record so if that guy really decides to do something illegal (uttering threat, assault by trespass, etc), they can recommend to charge.

[Toeknee]

If you are willing to meet up with him at your own risk, then see if there's a pin or tag number on the monitor, and see if there's any sticker on the box of the monitor with a number that matches it. I think they usually do so that people can't just buy 1 and refund their broken one in its place.

Anyways if the numbers match then you sold him a defective product. If it doesn't match then he's scamming you; buying yours and giving you back his broken one.

[CRS]

If you are willing to meet up with him at your own risk, then see if there's a pin or tag number on the monitor, and see if there's any sticker on the box of the monitor with a number that matches it. I think they usually do so that people can't just buy 1 and refund their broken one in its place.

Anyways if the numbers match then you sold him a defective product. If it doesn't match then he's scamming you; buying yours and giving you back his broken one.

Bingo!

[chucki]

If you are willing to meet up with him at your own risk, then see if there's a pin or tag number on the monitor, and see if there's any sticker on the box of the monitor with a number that matches it. I think they usually do so that people can't just buy 1 and refund their broken one in its place.

Anyways if the numbers match then you sold him a defective product. If it doesn't match then he's scamming you; buying yours and giving you back his broken one.

Yes, but what if it was damaged during his possession? I mean, the guy was in a hurry right? I doubt he took the time to securely place the item in his vehicle before driving off. A couple of bumps here and there could add up to some damage.

[Dragon-88]

He prolly just doesnt have his video card settings properly. Its probably setup for his LCD tv or something..

[CP.AR]

RS BEATDOWN CREW ASSEMBLY SIR?

[Marco911]

Computer monitors are reliable pieces of equipment. It is likely he has set up issues.

[maxxxboost]

Buyers beware like everyone says.
You gave hime opportunities to try it out be he declined. Too bad for him.
Also, why would you sell a broken LCD monitor from your own home and also offer to show him?

Anyways.
Tough shits for him

[achiam]

If he comes to your door you don't have many other options than the above.

[!Yaminashi]

Definitely his own fault. If I'm dropping almost a grand on a monitor, even if I'm in a rush I'd take the 5 mins to make sure it works properly

Did you ask him if he even plugged it in? :p

[hotjoint]

U dont owe him shit, he was the one in a rush and you even offered to show him that it works. He's fuckin around with you. Probably has the same broken monitor and is trying to swap it with yours.

[Noir]

Why do people need to re-say what's already been said 10+ times over? I mean at 10+ times, it's not like they're any additions to the points already made.

[Dragon-88]

Why do people need to re-say what's already been said 10+ times over? I mean at 10+ times, it's not like they're any additions to the points already made.

Free Post Duh!!!

[Noir]

Free Post Duh!!!

lol. thx.

[you!]

he should have made sure that it was working properly before he left...i mean u even insisted that he should but he didn't so tell him to fuck off

[hotjoint]

Free Post Duh!!!

:werd:

[silk]

file police report !



re-post

[sh0n]

Its buyer beware. His fault he didn't test the product before buying it.

Whatever you do don't give him a refund cause it seems like he is scamming you.

You gotta understand when selling stuff on CL whenever its out the door - its no refund. He could have done so many things like switching the monitor and then trying to scam you.

Like the other posters said, you should fail a report with the police telling them what happened and how this guy is threatening you

[VR6GTI]

windows broken

[DC5-S]

if he calls you again tell him to fuck off and its his own fault for not testing it.. and if he trys to come to your house you'll be ready

[Psykopathik]

^ gonna be on guard 24-7 huh?

[DC5-S]

guard dog lol

[NiceGirl]

i've bought stuff off of craigslist and always offer to pick up since i don't want people to know where i live. i find that 99% of the people i buy the stuff off of live in apartments. If you have a friend or relative who lives in an apartment, it's probably best to do it there. if there's an outlet outside of the building, it's best to do the transaction there. if not, the lobby or storage area works too.

[GLOW]

Call the police non-emergency number to file a report first. (604)717-3321 if you reside in Vancouver. They need to have this on record so if that guy really decides to do something illegal (uttering threat, assault by trespass, etc), they can recommend to charge.

sounds about right. report it and document it so they know there's a history of threats.

too bad he didn't test it at your house. he paid for a monitor, not tech support for a monitor to be set up. He's SOL

[AsBannedAsItGets]

This is probably a dead issue by now since I haven't received any e-mails from him.
Not that I'm complaining or anything but I suspect he had installation problems which he resolved. I'm very relieved.
If anyone cares...

[pandalove]

he probably forgot to plug it in and now hes too embarrass to talk to u

[Shun Izaki]

I always meet people outside of my own house, but clearly in a place i'm familiar with, and has tons of people, like metro etc...

that way, im pretty hard to scam over.

That being said, i'd tell him to fuck off, if he ever came to my place, and that he can try to get back to the penthouse level of my apartment hahahha...

[quasi]

never

ever

in a million years

meet up with a seller/buyer at your house. That's pretty much rule #1 in online shopping for 2nd hand items.

I always do it like this and always will. I could careless if they know where I live. If someone wanted to sell me a monitor or a TV I'd want to see that thing working as well I wouldn't meet up at a parking lot somewhere it would be a deal breaker. It would also send off warning bells like why doesn't this guy want to show me it working?

I agree with others in this thread. The guy is probably not a scammer he either accidentally broke it in transit or he doesn't know how to hook it up.

[b0unce. [?]]

Tell him to fuck off. He had his chance to test it out.
No refunds or exchange, store credit only.

[the_rickster]

sounds like he's trying to scam you. if you feel threatened for your personal safety then call the police and file a report.


this is really your only option.


i would have made light of it somehow and said "make sure the monitor is plugged in properly" like they do at the helpline.

[SkinnyPupp]

I'm almost positive it's because he doesn't have a dual-link DVI video card.